Mad Pierrot
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(04-12-2012, 02:52 PM)

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#51

Originally Posted by Envelope: View Post
Needs more highlighting of Omigawa, but otherwise you did a good job with this thread. Really looking forward to all that delicious Bones Mechanical animation!
No animation studio will ever be able to make the three-legged magenta xenomorph pterodactyl look graceful in flight.
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(04-12-2012, 03:05 PM)

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#52

Originally Posted by duckroll: View Post
Yes, actually Heroman had really consistent production values. In fact, they spent two entire years producing the entire series before it even started airing. American style.
If anything, he should have mentioned Star Driver or Un-Go, which actually had some really ugly episodes. Star Driver 21 was so bad.
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(04-12-2012, 03:08 PM)

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Originally Posted by 7Th: View Post
If anything, he should have mentioned Star Driver or Un-Go, which actually had some really ugly episodes. Star Driver 21 was so bad.
Un-Go had no "ugly episodes" though. The entire show was just ugly because the designs were atrocious. Lulz. :(

That's why it doesn't look like that -in flight-. :P

Jarmel
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(04-12-2012, 03:11 PM)

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Why are people concerned about the production values????

The writing is where people should be terrified out of their minds.
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(04-12-2012, 03:14 PM)

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Originally Posted by Jarmel: View Post
Why are people concerned about the production values????

The writing is where people should be terrified out of their minds.
Probably; I can forgive the cheapassness of Star Driver since the final episode made it clear that they were just saving their forces to blow their entire load in one go. The writing, on the other hand, had no justification for being shit.
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(04-12-2012, 03:17 PM)

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Originally Posted by Jarmel: View Post
Why are people concerned about the production values????

The writing is where people should be terrified out of their minds.
I'm concerned about the heart, or should I say, the lack of it.

:(
Mad Pierrot
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(04-12-2012, 03:18 PM)

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Originally Posted by duckroll: View Post
That's why it doesn't look like that -in flight-. :P

http://i.imgur.com/zxtns.jpg
Oh, so in flight it gets upgraded to a fish wearing Napoleon Bonaparte's hat. That's much better!
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(04-12-2012, 04:04 PM)

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#58

So turns out the show is a total of 24 episodes.
distantmantra
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(04-12-2012, 04:22 PM)

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#59

The Japanese Blu-rays (~6500 yen each) will have English subtitles on them. I'm guessing they're doing the same thing with Gundam AGE. No legal streaming option, so if you want it, you gotta shell out the big bucks.
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(04-12-2012, 05:31 PM)

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#60

I'm not a huge anime fan, but I must admit, I absolutely loved E7. Looking forward to seeing AO!
Envelope
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(04-12-2012, 05:57 PM)

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#61

Quote:
Best character makes an appearance in the first episode!
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(04-12-2012, 07:46 PM)

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Episode 1 - Born Slippy / Deep Blue

I'm really surprised. This feels really well produced, and it's also very enjoyable to watch. The strangest thing is, against all expectations - it FEELS like Eureka Seven. The way the scenes are directed and framed, the colors, the backgrounds, the animation motion, tons of nice 2D mechanical stuff like cars, ships, etc. It really does feel like a new E7 production.

Kyoda doesn't seem to have lost it either, the first episode is well paced, and MUCH better than the manga in terms of pace and how scenes occur. I like the freshness of the lead voices, there's a rawness to their voices, but also an honesty. Something the original E7 definitely had.

Oh and if anyone has any concerns about the music, forget it. The music is fantastic, and probably the strongest point of the show next to the visuals. I'm really glad BONES finally got to make another show like this with character designs which actually look "normal" and nice, instead of the garbage from Star Driver, Un-Go, and Towa no Quon. This feels familiar, and it's pretty nostalgic.

Really hope they can keep this up. :)
Dead
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(04-12-2012, 07:48 PM)

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Omg, why am I at work now

So is the mango a straight adaptation, or is it like the original in terms of being divergent?
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LeadProtagonist
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(04-12-2012, 07:50 PM)

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#64

Stop attempting to get my hopes up and raise my expectations.

You might make me cry in a month or so.
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(04-12-2012, 07:50 PM)

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Whoa, I didn't expect the first episode to be that good based on Duckrolls impressions.:o
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(04-12-2012, 07:57 PM)

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#66

Don't do this to me Duckroll. I don't want to get my hopes up just to see them dashed later on. :(
Envelope
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(04-12-2012, 07:59 PM)

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#67

It's not like the production values of AO were even in doubt, though. It's far to early to believe the duckroll hype just yet!
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(04-12-2012, 08:00 PM)

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#68

Wait... So it's good? I want to believe, but, Duckroll hype and all that.
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(04-12-2012, 08:13 PM)

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Originally Posted by Dead: View Post
Omg, why am I at work now

So is the mango a straight adaptation, or is it like the original in terms of being divergent?
The manga is clearly adapted from the anime. They probably had the scripts and storyboards to draw from, but the anime is much MUCH better directed.
Envelope
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(04-12-2012, 08:28 PM)

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I got a chance to check the first episode myself, and it's not bad at all, the animation is good, and some of the music is good, though one piece in particular was too repetitive, but I'd say it doesn't match up the hype duckroll is trying to spread. If you're looking for lots of action and mecha and fighting in the first episode, you won't find it. Based on the preview, they're saving all that for next episode. I'm definitely looking forward to this, and like duckroll, I hope they can keep this quality, or better yet, improve it.
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(04-12-2012, 08:30 PM)

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#71

Originally Posted by duckroll: View Post
Episode 1 - Born Slippy / Deep Blue

I'm really surprised. This feels really well produced, and it's also very enjoyable to watch. The strangest thing is, against all expectations - it FEELS like Eureka Seven. The way the scenes are directed and framed, the colors, the backgrounds, the animation motion, tons of nice 2D mechanical stuff like cars, ships, etc. It really does feel like a new E7 production.

Kyoda doesn't seem to have lost it either, the first episode is well paced, and MUCH better than the manga in terms of pace and how scenes occur. I like the freshness of the lead voices, there's a rawness to their voices, but also an honesty. Something the original E7 definitely had.

Oh and if anyone has any concerns about the music, forget it. The music is fantastic, and probably the strongest point of the show next to the visuals. I'm really glad BONES finally got to make another show like this with character designs which actually look "normal" and nice, instead of the garbage from Star Driver, Un-Go, and Towa no Quon. This feels familiar, and it's pretty nostalgic.

Really hope they can keep this up. :)
So is this duckroll hype?
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(04-12-2012, 09:35 PM)

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#72

Originally Posted by duckroll: View Post
Episode 1 - Born Slippy / Deep Blue

I'm really surprised. This feels really well produced, and it's also very enjoyable to watch. The strangest thing is, against all expectations - it FEELS like Eureka Seven. The way the scenes are directed and framed, the colors, the backgrounds, the animation motion, tons of nice 2D mechanical stuff like cars, ships, etc. It really does feel like a new E7 production.

Kyoda doesn't seem to have lost it either, the first episode is well paced, and MUCH better than the manga in terms of pace and how scenes occur. I like the freshness of the lead voices, there's a rawness to their voices, but also an honesty. Something the original E7 definitely had.

Oh and if anyone has any concerns about the music, forget it. The music is fantastic, and probably the strongest point of the show next to the visuals. I'm really glad BONES finally got to make another show like this with character designs which actually look "normal" and nice, instead of the garbage from Star Driver, Un-Go, and Towa no Quon. This feels familiar, and it's pretty nostalgic.

Really hope they can keep this up. :)
Looks like I was right in believing! Can't wait to watch the episode.
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(04-12-2012, 09:38 PM)

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#73

Was the first one a decent watch? I stopped because it didn't really interest me, and the fact that everyone and their mother liked to shit all over Renton for absolutely (from what I could see) no reason.

I might try to get back into it if the sequel is good.
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(04-12-2012, 09:40 PM)

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Originally Posted by Verelios: View Post
Was the first one a decent watch? I stopped because it didn't really interest me, and the fact that everyone and their mother liked to shit all over Renton for absolutely (from what I could see) no reason.

I might try to get back into it if the sequel is good.
I hated renton because he was an extremely whinney protagonist and did a lot of things in the series that pissed me off. I didn't mind the rest of the characters (even the kids LOL) but hopefully the new series has a better/stronger lead.
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#75

I never did finish the original.. one of the last anime I've seen. How easy would it be to follow along with this new series if I go ahead and watch it?
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(04-12-2012, 09:50 PM)

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You know what the worst thing was about Renton? Everyone saying his sodding name so often.
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(04-12-2012, 10:05 PM)

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#77

when was the last time duckroll hyped something that turned to shit?

I can't remember, thus I will believe in da hype. Lesssss goooo!
Dead
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(04-13-2012, 03:56 AM)

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#78

Just watched episode 1, and I'm with duckroll. A very solid start.

I agree it feels like E7, but even more amazingly it even carries this nostalgic feeling about the original to me, despite featuring a completely different cast and setting (atm anyways). Loved the opening with Ao flying above the ocean, set to the wondeful BGM, that sequence alone did a lot to reassure me of how genuine this is looking to be. Also, the scene at the end where Ao flashbacks to him as a kid, seeing his resemblance to a young Renton, and seeing Eureka standing in front of him... It felt like a scene right out of the first series. Between that, the fantastic music, the honest interactions between Ao and Naru, I'm pretty happy.

One complaint...the ED, both song and sequence. E7 had consistently amazing EDs and OPs. Compared to Secret Base, the 1st ED of the original series, which was a wonderful song and accompanied by a fantastic animation sequence, this is a huge disappointment.
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blue_phazon
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(04-13-2012, 04:06 AM)
#79

When can we expect a dubbed version? I thought E7's dub was actually pretty good, so I watched it in that.
Dead
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(04-13-2012, 04:09 AM)

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#80

Interesting observation.

Look at what Eureka is wearing in the flashback

And here is the final artwork that shown at the end of the broadcast of episode 50 of the original series:

Lain
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(04-13-2012, 04:27 AM)

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Episode 1

Well, believing paid off. This was great, looked great and felt great. I never understood all the complaint about Renton being a whiny kid. He never sounded whiny to me and, just like Renton, Ao too seems not to be a whiny kid.
I liked the connections in style to the old show, with the eyecatch and the to be continued said at the end.
The action was good even if it consisted only of explosions, smoke and Ao running.

Best part of the show though? No Chiaki Omigawa to make us all deaf!
Thank you based Bones for at least sparing me in the first episode!

Can't wait for episode 2 but also can't wait for all the little details to make sense of the starting relationships and where this all sits relative to the first E7.
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(04-13-2012, 04:27 AM)

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Originally Posted by blue_phazon: View Post
When can we expect a dubbed version? I thought E7's dub was actually pretty good, so I watched it in that.
Since Bandai Entertainment has withdrawn from North America and Bandai Visual isn't keen on licensing some of their properties at the moment even for streaming... who the hell knows. :-/
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(04-13-2012, 04:28 AM)

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#83

I'll be lazy and cross post my impressions from the anime thread:

Originally Posted by Instro: View Post
Eureka 7 AO 1



Gotta say, I was pretty impressed by the first episode. Obviously the visuals are outstanding, but the episode was also well directed with some great shots, and pretty well paced too. Even though the show is different, it still "felt" like Eureka 7 which is nice. Ao himself is not a Renton Jr and has his own personality, he already seems to have a girlfriend too so that means he is pretty boss. Another thing that impressed me was the soundtrack. I wasn't sure if it could even come close to the original, particularly after I heard they were moving away from the electronic stuff, but this first episode had some really excellent pieces of music. There were a couple that mixed classical orchestra stuff with rock that I thought were cool as well. If it is any indication, then soundtrack could easily be as memorable as the first series. Also, lol at Ao's van getting smashed at the end of the episode, guess he won't be driving that lame thing anymore!

I'm a little confused about a couple plot points, as I am a little hazy on how E7 ended. The Scub left the planet correct? I guess they are back now? Also why has everyone seemingly re-associated themselves with nationalities and such that were not present in Eureka 7, like Japanese and so on?

So yeah, promising start to a series that I think most of us were pretty apprehensive of. Next week should be pretty awesome judging from the preview.
In short, its the real deal.
Dead
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(04-13-2012, 04:30 AM)

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#84

Also, this is clearly a sequel:



Between that, and the first image of the ED, its like they are going "HAY GUYS, NOTICE SOMETHING?!?!"
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(04-13-2012, 04:34 AM)

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First episode was extremely solid. I'm so hyped right now, much likely against my better judgment.
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(04-13-2012, 04:40 AM)

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I forgot to say, the music was nice too.
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Originally Posted by Dead: View Post
Also, this is clearly a sequel:

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/2w0VQ.jpg?1[IMG]

Between that, and the first image of the ED, its like they are going "HAY GUYS, NOTICE SOMETHING?!?!"
Well, why would the moon not having the sign left by Eureka/Renton mean its a sequel? Although I'm actually quite certain that it is, I mean Eureka is basically shown in the episode and all, I'm just a bit confused by what you mean? Perhaps I am missing something since my memory of E7 is slightly off atm.

Originally Posted by Lain: View Post
I forgot to say, the music was nice too.
In a season that already has a bunch of shows with excellent music, the first episode of AO still stood out for me in that regard.
Dead
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(04-13-2012, 04:49 AM)

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Originally Posted by Instro: View Post
Well, why would the moon not having the sign left by Eureka/Renton mean its a sequel? Although I'm actually quite certain that it is, I mean Eureka is basically shown in the episode and all, I'm just a bit confused by what you mean? Perhaps I am missing something since my memory of E7 is slightly off atm.



In a season that already has a bunch of shows with excellent music, the first episode of AO still stood out for me in that regard.
Just feels like an obvious tease is all.

And man, the opening music is just so fantastic, I just love the whole intro sequence.
Cloudy
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(04-13-2012, 04:55 AM)

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So...so hyped cos E7 is my favorite anime. But where is the bluray release?

ps: Can't wait for this :D

edit: It's out? *goes to download*
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It would be hilarious if it's actually a sequel to the E7 movie, and not the TV series.

Not really.
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It would be hilarious if it's actually a sequel to the E7 movie, and not the TV series.

Not really.
Well it would be pretty hilarious to see duckroll self destruct!
Dead
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(04-13-2012, 05:11 AM)

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Assuming there really was a movie, it didn't really feature the actual scub coral IIRC no?

So I think its pretty safe to say this is related to the TV show, and not to some imaginary movie.
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Great first episode. The music was good.
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(04-13-2012, 05:15 AM)

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I liked it. It's definitely different and doesn't feel like a re-tread of the original. It takes a lot of balls to not even show the main mech in the first ep.

The art is fantastic, though none of the character designs are as good as the original; but the original had some of the best characters ever so it's hard to match. I really like the stocky dude with the sunglasses.

The main kid seems alright. He's not a loser or silent or annoying like 90% of leads in anime. He seems to have a decent head on his shoulder. The Naru girl seems good too. I like the KFC leader guy of the loli squad.

Music had some good tracks, again not up their with the original, but the original E7's score is hard to match. The track when the car dudes are flying and the track when the G Monster is exploding things were both real good.

So far it's finger's crossed, hope the show is good. Nothing in ep1 has me worried and nothing in ep1 has cemented that it's going to be great either. Was a good first ep and very much looking forward to ep2 to see how their action direction and budget is these days.
Dead
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(04-13-2012, 05:20 AM)

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re: the art, putting aside the designs, I think its worth noting that while the effort in this ep was great, I think the episodes of E7 that were AD'd by Kenichi Yoshida, are some of the most flawlessly drawn episodes in modern anime.
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(04-13-2012, 05:26 AM)

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Originally Posted by Branduil: View Post
It's so odd how BONES has failed to follow up on popular series such as this and Darker than Black until now.
E7, though being a fan favorite was not a critical success at all. It's not easy to get people to finance a sequel to a show that bomba'd.

They're doing this entirely out of love for the franchise, because there is little money to be made with E7 related things unfortunately :(
Dead
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(04-13-2012, 05:28 AM)

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how do you define "critical" success with anime.

Sales wise, it fell short of expectations for sure, Bandai were probably hoping 20,000+ sales, but its still one of the higher selling BONES shows that isn't FMA (lol)
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Yeah well pretty much everything good that Bones makes is a bomba in sales. They need Microsoft 500 million marketing campaigns.


Watched the first ep again, yeah this was a really good ep. The directing and pacing is spot on. I think the only thing I don't like is the G-Monster design, which totally isn't a bad design, but it's more like something from Bokurano than the really awesome Coralian monster designs from E7 or the Military robots in that show.

Man, I hope the crazy ocean animal coralians show up in this one, just because they were probably the most fucked up and simultaneously awesome monster creatures I've seen.
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(04-13-2012, 05:58 AM)

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This was a very well done episode. The color palette in particular is striking even if it feels a little oversaturated. They nailed the trapar waves visually. Another small thing was the text used on the screens in-show as it's close in style to the original series. Transitions were handled relatively well. Pacing was a little on the slow side but that is more than adequate for an introductory episode in addition to the fact that this is a 24 episode series. Music is pretty good but a bit more orchestral than I would have liked. They are still using synths though which is a good thing. Two pieces that I found particularly good was the opening one and the one that played when the first Scub Burst happened. The use of the violins in that second piece was extremely well done and added to the urgency of the scene. I did enjoy the ambient sounds especially in the forest. It helps to make the island feel more alive. The character designs are pretty solid and you can tell Yoshida's godly hand worked on them.

One thing I was particularly impressed by was how the weight of objects was represented. For example the way the Coral impacted the island gave a sense of the weight of the object. It helped to give a sense of scale and physics. This will probably be important in the mech episodes. I was also impressed with the tone of the show. There's a more serious tone to it compared to the earlier episodes of E7. I mean the way the truck was crushed was pretty brutal and the whole emergency of the situation like seeing the firetrucks gave a sense of the world. In fact the small details really added up in the show to help with the worldbuilding.

As for the characters, I like Ao. He has more fire compared to Renton earlier in the series. He seems angrier in general compared to Renton who was more depressed after his sister left while Ao looks more pissed about the entire situation. The grandfather seems more calm compared to Axel. Naru definitely has more fire compared to Eureka and is certainly closer to Talho in regards to personality(and the way she dresses too hoho). Gazelle surprised me as he seems more insightful compared to his manga counterpart and just more insightful than what his general appearance would give away.


Now here's the current issue I have, there's a lot that just flat out doesn't make sense. Either the plot did a massive time skip backwards or we're in an alternate universe. Both means the plot is going to get messy. I'm also not exactly sure where the plot is going such as if Ao is going to stay and guard Okinawa but the difference here compared to the manga seems to be that due to the glimpses of the world, I can't imagine the plot staying on Okinawa for long. I also wonder if it's going to tackle corporate greed/corruption in the same way the original tackled government/military corruption.
Bebpo
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Yeah, I'm not going to hold out hope in having a clean connection to the first. Japan seems to hate standard sequels and tries to complicate it as much as possible to add the "gotta keep watching mystery". It usually ends up messy, like you said.

The scub coming from what seem to be DIMENSIONAL PORTALS though does seem to push parallel world or something.


I dunno, I'll take it on its own until there is a direct connection.


And I gotta say, it's nice for once to get something you really want (a sequel to E7) and it doesn't totally suck and make you hate the industry.
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