[akira28]

Why does every Halo montage have to include a radio-rock song with the words "suffocating" or "breaking down" or "darkness" in it? So emo. Good montage other than that though (Kampy).

Hahah they should do a montage where those are the only lyrics. Some kind of Godsmack or Coal Chamber guitar/bass/drums mash, some dude growling, and then only random words, and growls to match all the sticky grenade kills and explosions and shit.

[Fuchsdh]

Yeah that's why I don't watch any montages unless they're specifically linked here or HBO. Why do Halo players with capture cards have horrible taste in music*?

*Or even if you like that stuff, why would you throw it on something you're trying to get views with? Do you really think every player loves screamo?

[Zeouterlimits]

I would have thought it's just some kids with different tastes in music to yours having fun.

[Hydranockz]

I would have thought it's just some kids with different tastes in music to yours having fun.

Yeah, it's just as well I've never made a montage lol.

[Gazzawa]

Yeah, it's just as well I've never made a montage lol.

Do it.

[Tawpgun]

Linkin Park, Breaking Benjamin, Skillet, all these emo-like hard rock groups are really popular with montages.

But the quintessential overused montage song is this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DTLcR5awn0

[Overdoziz]

Two randoms on my team just went a combined -32.

[HiredN00bs]

Two randoms on my team just went a combined -32.

Inspire them to do better. Be a leader. Take them under your wing. Teach. Impart.

[kylej]

Two randoms on my team just went a combined -32.

Those were probably play testers for Halo 4.

[ViewtifulJC]

Send them nasty messages about what huge fucking scrub bk randoms they are and tell them to get on your level.

[Tawpgun]

Those were probably play testers for Halo 4.

Joking aside, this is what worries me about no public beta. I know they have testers at every skill level and are probably bringing in MLG peeps. But they need more. More people with more testing.

Test test test.

Still super disappointed there's no beta. If not public, at least make it available to a few thousand people.

[kylej]

I know they have testers at every skill level and are probably bringing in MLG peeps.

Probably not.

[Hydranockz]

Joking aside, this is what worries me about no public beta. I know they have testers at every skill level and are probably bringing in MLG peeps. But they need more. More people with more testing. Test test test. Still super disappointed there's no beta. If not public, at least make it available to a few thousand people.

Being a part of Microsoft they gain access to quite a lot of international testers. Quite a lot.

[Tawpgun]

Probably not.

Nah they definitely do. If they haven't, they will. Not sure if Halo 2 did it, but Halo 3 and Reach definitely did. They even had MLG players play firefight early in ODST.

MLG is a huge part of Halo and they want to make sure the game is suitable for MLG play. What happened in Reach I don't know...

Besides the obvious balance, map, and gameplay changes they might need to make, they need to stress test the netcode as well.

[heckfu]

Nah they definitely do. If they haven't, they will. Not sure if Halo 2 did it, but Halo 3 and Reach definitely did. They even had MLG players play firefight early in ODST. MLG is a huge part of Halo and they want to make sure the game is suitable for MLG play. What happened in Reach I don't know... Besides the obvious balance, map, and gameplay changes they might need to make, they need to stress test the netcode as well.

You know how to lose an audience? Back up a point with "Reach definitely did."

[Overdoziz]

Being a part of Microsoft they gain access to quite a lot of international testers. Quite a lot.

Who are all bad.

[Hitmonchan107]

Yeah that's why I don't watch any montages unless they're specifically linked here or HBO. Why do Halo players with capture cards have horrible taste in music*? *Or even if you like that stuff, why would you throw it on something you're trying to get views with? Do you really think every player loves screamo?

There's good stuff out there with screaming vocalists. If someone used August Burns Red, Norma Jean or A Plea for Purging, I would watch it.

[Tawpgun]

You know how to lose an audience? Back up a point with "Reach definitely did."

Ruining BTB and competitive play? Reach definitely did.

[Fuchsdh]

There's good stuff out there with screaming vocalists. If someone used August Burns Red, Norma Jean or A Plea for Purging, I would watch it.

Ok, fair enough. I myself enjoy some Tom Waits, whose voice sounds like it got lost in a cement mixer for ten years, soaking with alcohol and then set alight.

I dunno how you would classify it, but the singers who just sound... whiny when they do it. Along the lines of Blink-182, but more so. It doesn't matter if their actual music is pretty good, you can kill a song really easily with a bad vocalist.

If I can't understand what you're saying and you're drowning out the music behind you, that's generally a suggestion to tone it down to me.

[Zeouterlimits]

Joking aside, this is what worries me about no public beta. I know they have testers at every skill level and are probably bringing in MLG peeps. But they need more. More people with more testing. Test test test. Still super disappointed there's no beta. If not public, at least make it available to a few thousand people.

It didn't solve the issues for Reach, but ultimately I agree.
In a sense not having a beta is a vote of confidence by 343I in their own team, but for us... we have to just wait and hope.

[Tawpgun]

It didn't solve the issues for Reach, but ultimately I agree. In a sense not having a beta is a vote of confidence by 343I in their own team, but for us... we have to just wait and hope.

What do you mean it didn't solve issues in Reach?

Could you imagine playing Reach with a slower base speed, lower jump height, Beta Armor Lock, and a 12 bullet DMR?

Ewwww

[Overdoziz]

Hnng

[Vespa]

This is off-topic but can somebody tell me exactly what Halo CE's (Xbox) horizontal fov is for full screen view? I always assumed it was 90 degrees but I've also read that it's actually 70 which blows my mind. Is there an official statement or source on the matter?

[Zeouterlimits]

What do you mean it didn't solve issues in Reach? Could you imagine playing Reach with a slower base speed, lower jump height, Beta Armor Lock, and a 12 bullet DMR? Ewwww

It was an improvement, oh I agree. But we still have a swarth of issues in Reach at every turn. Ultimately it didn't save Reach from being the game I was so unhappy with.

[FyreWulff]

What do you mean it didn't solve issues in Reach? Could you imagine playing Reach with a slower base speed, lower jump height, Beta Armor Lock, and a 12 bullet DMR? Ewwww

And vehicles that caught on fire if you looked at them wrong.

The only thing I miss from the beta at this point, when I really think about it:

- The focus rifle's physics impulse (although I can see why they got rid of it)

- The beta hog's handling

[Tawpgun]

And vehicles that caught on fire if you looked at them wrong. The only thing I miss from the beta at this point, when I really think about it: - The focus rifle's physics impulse (although I can see why they got rid of it) - The beta hog's handling

Only thing I miss is a useful focus rifle and DAT PISTOL.

RIP Beta Pistol.

[ElzarTheBam]

Only thing I miss is a useful focus rifle and DAT PISTOL. RIP Beta Pistol.

Anyone remember the Halo 3 beta carbine? Oh my, gets me all warm inside.

[Plywood]

Quinn/Dianna Agron all day for life.

[FyreWulff]

Only thing I miss is a useful focus rifle and DAT PISTOL. RIP Beta Pistol.

Yeah although I can already envision what launches/wall push-throughs people would have done with the beta FR. Would have been hell for FW maps.

[Karl2177]

smh Waypoint

[Zeouterlimits]

Beta Carbine was my favourite weapon.

Thinking about the Razer Onza or the MLG controller as a possible solution for however Sprint ends up working out on the controller. I wouldn't say I'm worried, ergonomics of input are a key concern in any game, but it's just something that popped into my mind when I was buying a wired controller for my pc.

smh Waypoint

Not sure how you came across it, but just ignore it.

[Dax01]

smh Waypoint

War!

[ViewtifulJC]

smh Waypoint

[Tha Robbertster]

smh Waypoint

lol, here we go again.

[Karl2177]

Not sure how you came across it, but just ignore it.

Ehh not as fun for me, plus I need to boost how many thanks I've given. And it figures that the one time I decide "Hey, I should go see what Waypoint has put up for Halo 4 news" that there's a thread about GAF.

Aw damn, he edited the title...

[ElzarTheBam]

lol, here we go again.

Every week there seems to be a thread like that on waypoint.

I enjoy them.

[GhaleonEB]

Was Bungie.net ever like this? I don't recall these kind of threads over there.

[Zeouterlimits]

Was Bungie.net ever like this? I don't recall these kind of threads over there.

I vaguely recall it happening once or twice.

[Karl2177]

Was Bungie.net ever like this? I don't recall these kind of threads over there.

Rarely. Game launches and beta launches were usually when it occurred.

EDIT: my favorite freakout like this is when they thought they gave Sai Kun an early copy of Reach.

[Tawpgun]

Bungie.net was a bigger community as well.

I don't frequent the waypoint forums enough, but it did seem like Bungie had a bigger presence on bungie.net then 343 has at Waypoint.

But I wouldn't be surprised if 343 started posting more after launch/goes gold. They're still probably crunching for development right now and are super busy.

[Gui_PT]

Was Bungie.net ever like this? I don't recall these kind of threads over there.

Who cares? These tears are so delicious

I don't think Bnet was like this

[OdysseusVA]

smh Waypoint

lol
Oh my lawd

[GhaleonEB]

Who cares? These tears are so delicious I don't think Bnet was like this

I don't disagree, I was just wondering if my old age was warping my memory. This seems to be a new thing, and I'm enjoying it.

[TheOddOne]

smh Waypoint

They mad.

[FyreWulff]

smh Waypoint

343 posts more on GAF because GAF's forums actually work. To post on Waypoint, the forum software does a 2d20 roll against your Microsoft Passport stat.

Shit, I even got the "Restricted Area" error the first time I clicked that.

[Recarpo]

Was Bungie.net ever like this? I don't recall these kind of threads over there.

I used to be on bungie.net a good deal a few years back and I never remember anything like this. I haven't really been over to the waypoint forums much, is there anything that's actually worth reading there or is it pretty awful at this point?

[Deadly Cyclone]

I think BNet seemed to have more Bungie presence because the forum ninjas posted a lot. They aren't officially Bungie though. You'd get a post from Urk here or there, but it seems to be the same frequency as Frank and Angel post on Waypoint.

Maybe Waypoint just needs a more visible moderator staff that is closer to 343 and can answer some of the easy stuff.

[Fuchsdh]

I used to be on bungie.net a good deal a few years back and I never remember anything like this. I haven't really been over to the waypoint forums much, is there anything that's actually worth reading there or is it pretty awful at this point?

There's some good, but the thing I hate is every insightful comment is balanced by two or three people who have never read any of the books or actually thought about the game they've just played. If you don't follow the fiction, stop commenting on fiction threads.

I think BNet seemed to have more Bungie presence because the forum ninjas posted a lot. They aren't officially Bungie though. You'd get a post from Urk here or there, but it seems to be the same frequency as Frank and Angel post on Waypoint. Maybe Waypoint just needs a more visible moderator staff, the is closer to 343 and can answer some of the easy stuff.

Maybe the mods are too busy with podcasts and shenanigans :P

[Blue Ninja]

smh Waypoint

It has begun.

Again.

[Karl2177]

On another discussion front, how would you guys like the achievements in Halo 4 to be handled?

Like 60% Campaign, 40% Spartan Ops, 0% multiplayer. If 343i's previous achievements are anything to go by, I'd rather them leave all MP achievements out of the game.