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Originally Posted by Tideas: View Post
the dog is 50 pound...
And?
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Originally Posted by NGAMER9: View Post
It's a shame, but it's a dog. Life will go on.

All the people that will call for the policeman to be shot have serious mental and priority issues.
Man lost a best friend. A life is a life. Have you never loved an animal?
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Wow sad people are just saying it was a dog and the officer shouldn't be punished.
This is a nightmare for the dog owner. I know I'd be devastated. The Main issue here though is that he pulled his gun when he did not need to and that makes him an asshole and quite irresponsible. Not characteristics I want in any police officer.

I get the thought of guy reacting on the cop because if someone harms your dog. this is just so wrong on so many levels.
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Originally Posted by Tideas: View Post
the dog is 50 pound...
50 pounds is not that big for a dog.
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Pretty obvious that the officer is not fit for duty if he can't even handle a dog without killing it.
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Originally Posted by Tideas: View Post
the dog is 50 pound...
If the dog was as friendly as the owner and article make it out to be, than a full grown male officer should have been easily able to push him away.

Of course, if the officer was doing his job right, there wouldn't have been any issue to *BEGIN* with.
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Originally Posted by Freestyler: View Post
It's a pretty scary looking dog too, I don't blame the officer for putting it down.






GTFO.
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wow shithead cop.
does the owner have any legal right to sue the cop/police department?
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Originally Posted by Basketball Reasons: View Post
does the owner have any legal right to sue the cop/police department?
:lol
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Originally Posted by Basketball Reasons: View Post
wow shithead cop.
does the owner have any legal right to sue the cop/police department?
Of course he does.
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Originally Posted by Marrshu: View Post
If the dog was as friendly as the owner and article make it out to be, than a full grown male officer should have been easily able to push him away.

Of course, if the officer was doing his job right, there wouldn't have been any issue to *BEGIN* with.
he was doing his job right. he responded to a hostile environment. here comes a barking hostile dog. what do you expect to happen?


Originally Posted by echoshifting: View Post
50 pounds is not that big for a dog.
kidding right? 50 pound of muscle? That's a dog capable of killing a person
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Originally Posted by SUPREME1: View Post
[IMG]http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_cisco_the_dog_killed_thg_120416_wg.jpg[IMG]




GTFO.
maybe he just watched mad max
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Originally Posted by Deified Data: View Post
Man lost a best friend. A life is a life. Have you never loved an animal?
Sure, but I'm not going to demand a man be killed because poor old Rover charged at an inopportune moment.

An animal's life is nowhere near equal to a human life. I get you're upset, but at the end of the day, demanding the death of a human being for this reason is ridiculous and psychopathic.
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It's coming right for us!

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Originally Posted by echoshifting: View Post
:lol
why the laughter?
a copy enters a private property without any warrant issued.
kills a private property.
surely this has a case.
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Originally Posted by Tideas: View Post
he was doing his job right. he responded to a hostile environment. here comes a barking hostile dog. what do you expect to happen?
I expect a police officer to be able to handle barking dogs. It's not fucking rocket science. Even I can do it, for fuck's sake. And I'm not a dog whisperer or anything.

If you can't handle a barking dog, then you shouldn't claim to be able to act right under pressure.
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If we found out the cop had a powerful fear of dogs, would we have more sympathy for him?


Originally Posted by Tideas: View Post
he was doing his job right. he responded to a hostile environment. here comes a barking hostile dog. what do you expect to happen?




kidding right? 50 pound of muscle? That's a dog capable of killing a person
Are you afraid of dogs Tideas?
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Why not just taze the dog? Don't have to kill him. Plus he was just protecting his territory. Idiot cops with guns these days, it's like they will kill if looked at funny.
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Originally Posted by echoshifting: View Post
Damn good post.
It's Kaijima. I've yet to read one post I disagree with.

The man speaks oozes wisdom.
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Originally Posted by NGAMER9: View Post
Sure, but I'm not going to demand a man be killed because poor old Rover charged at an inopportune moment.

An animal's life is nowhere near equal to a human life. I get you're upset, but at the end of the day, demanding the death of a human being for this reason is ridiculous and psychopathic.
These are my feelings exactly.

Originally Posted by RPGCrazied: View Post
Why not just taze the dog? Don't have to kill him. Plus he was just protecting his territory. Idiot cops with guns these days, it's like they will kill if looked at funny.
Ummm, it'd be pretty hard to get a lock-on with a taser on a fast-moving dog.
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Originally Posted by Tideas: View Post
he was doing his job right. he responded to a hostile environment. here comes a barking hostile dog. what do you expect to happen?
The environment was not hostile. We have the audio to prove that. And even assuming that your first two points were true, he has tazers, pepper spray, and a baton on him.

This was not a police officer who made a judgement call. This was a man looking to shoot first and ask questions later. You can't possibly defend that, hearing the audio.

Originally Posted by CrocMother: View Post
If we found out the cop had a powerful fear of dogs, would we have more sympathy for him?
That would make me have less sympathy because he's an officer and should be held to a higher standard. If he's afraid of measly dogs, what is he doing being allowed to deal with situations like this?
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Originally Posted by NGAMER9: View Post
Sure, but I'm not going to demand a man be killed because poor old Rover charged at an inopportune moment.

An animal's life is nowhere near equal to a human life. I get you're upset, but at the end of the day, demanding the death of a human being for this reason is ridiculous and psychopathic.
That is where we differ, I suppose. If that makes me a psychopath, so be it.
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Originally Posted by Basketball Reasons: View Post
why the laughter?
a copy enters a private property without any warrant issued.
kills a private property.
surely this has a case.
He should sue the original though. Otherwise double jeopardy and all that.
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Originally Posted by CrocMother: View Post
If we found out the cop had a powerful fear of dogs, would we have more sympathy for him?
Of course not. People with powerful fear of anything shouldn't be cops! They should be filtered out of the system and become truck drivers or milk maids, I don't know what, but not cops.
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Take that guy off the fucking force. Not only was he at the wrong house, he killed the family dog? Inept cold hearted motherfucker.
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Originally Posted by echoshifting: View Post
50 pounds is not that big for a dog.
It all depends, a heeler can be very intimidating. I don't think that really matters, because this seems to be more of a shock/startle thing. Cops are far too willing to draw their weapons, the officer made it a deadly confrontation because his gun was drawn. There is far too much dependence on police being authoritive than trying to resolve situations by communicating.

And if you are afraid of dogs, you have no business being a police officer.

Lulz at a heeler killing an adult. If that dog could kill you, then you need to start exercising a bit more. They are sturdy, but they tend to attack legs and feet, they aren't pitbulls going for the throat. Now a pack of heelers can be plenty scary, but they mostly just bark, unless you run, and then they can get a bit nippy.

Mine aren't scary at all though.
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Originally Posted by Deified Data: View Post
That is where we differ, I suppose. If that makes me a psychopath, so be it.
I actually agree with you that a dog's life may be as valuable to a person as another human's life.

I've had many loved and treasured pets, but when you say that you want to kill somebody, you're taking the issue too far.
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Originally Posted by Sutton Dagger: View Post
Why did the officer pull a gun on the man without first establishing if he even had a girlfriend?
Even if it was the guy, he was unarmed and playing frisbee with his dog. WTF?
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Originally Posted by Basketball Reasons: View Post
why the laughter?
a copy enters a private property without any warrant issued.
kills a private property.
surely this has a case.
Sorry, I'm just really cynical of any attempt to sue law enforcement right now. It strikes me as a pointless endeavor. I'd be pleased as punch to be proven wrong, but I've heard of similar stories in which nothing could be done.
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Originally Posted by CrocMother: View Post
If we found out the cop had a powerful fear of dogs, would we have more sympathy for him?




Are you afraid of dogs Tideas?
Not really. An officer is quite likely to encounter dogs on a regular basis, so they should be taught to handle such situations.


I think it's also worth pointing something else out here. It's not like this officer was called to respond to a gang shootout. If he was I think I'd cut him some more slack, as he would be on a very heightened alert, and potentially ready for big trouble.
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Sad story.

When I was around 14 or 15, my parents were unloading some groceries and a police officer stopped and came to our door as a courtesy to let us know the trunk was open just in case we didn't realize it. Well we were all in our respective rooms but the front door and screen were still wide open since my parents were still going in and out. When the officer got to our door my dog ran up to the threshold and started barking at the officer. Of course we all came out of our rooms to find our dog barking right at the threshold and the officer pointing her gun right at our dog. Fortunately my dog was trained well enough to not go out and attack her and she was composed enough to not shoot the dog simply due to some barking. Afterwards my parents apologized for the situation but the officer told them there was no need to and that our dog was just protecting her territory. Could have ended up being a really bad situation. Fortunately, it just ended up being a showing of a well trained officer and dog. :)
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Originally Posted by NGAMER9: View Post
It's a shame, but it's a dog. Life will go on.

All the people that will call for the policeman to be shot have serious mental and priority issues.
Speaking of mental issues... The officer should be fired. He's clearly not suited to the job.
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I mean, do you want to postulate that barking dogs can be shot? That would be idiotic! What the hell!
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Can someone explain why the cop immediately just pulled a gun out on some dude in his backyard?
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Originally Posted by TAJ: View Post
Speaking of mental issues... The officer should be fired. He's clearly not suited to the job.
I absolutely agree.
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Originally Posted by BruiserBear: View Post
Not really. An officer is quite likely to encounter dogs on a regular basis, so they should be taught to handle such situations.


I think it's also worth pointing something else out here. It's not like this officer was called to respond to a gang shootout. If he was I think I'd cut him some more slack, as he would be on a very heightened alert, and potentially ready for big trouble.
Shit, domestic disturbance calls can be more crazy then a shootout.
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Originally Posted by wolfmat: View Post
I mean, do you want to postulate that barking dogs can be shot?

Depends. Are they or are they not in the apartment adjacent to mine?
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Originally Posted by echoshifting: View Post
Sorry, I'm just really cynical of any attempt to sue law enforcement right now. It strikes me as a pointless endeavor. I'd be pleased as punch to be proven wrong, but I've heard of similar stories in which nothing could be done.
ugh. just depressing.
dumbfuck cops and their happy triggers ways and no reprimand.
disgusting.
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Originally Posted by speculawyer: View Post
Even if it was the guy, he was unarmed and playing frisbee with his dog. WTF?
Maybe the cop was afraid that the guy would kill him with the frisbee in his hand?
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When I was 10 years old, I was waiting for the school bus when a great dane jumped on me.

This animal was not attacking. It was playing. My arms and legs were pretty bloody and scratched up, however. We had to get the cops.

The dog jumped all over the first person to approach them.

And the officer pepper sprayed the great dane, then put it in a truck.

Crisis over.
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Sad story
Originally Posted by Devolution: View Post
Take that guy off the fucking force. Not only was he at the wrong house, he killed the family dog? Inept cold hearted motherfucker.
The caller was wrong.
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thats so sad :(
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Originally Posted by Mr Swine: View Post
Maybe the cop was afraid that the guy would kill him with the frisbee in his hand?
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Originally Posted by Timedog: View Post
Can someone explain why the cop immediately just pulled a gun out on some dude in his backyard?
He felt it was his right to wield the threat of death over a peon and his mongrel.

Hadn't been to the shooting range in a while, thought he was getting rusty.

Who knows.
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Originally Posted by wolfmat: View Post
Pretty obvious that the officer is not fit for duty if he can't even handle a dog without killing it.
Thousand times this. I agree that a human life will ALWAYS be the top priority in a situation of danger, but from the evidence in this case, it was a poor decision on the officer's side.

And sadly, excluding a few exceptions, cops are sub-humans whithout common sense.
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Originally Posted by Timedog: View Post
Can someone explain why the cop immediately just pulled a gun out on some dude in his backyard?
The guy had a frisbee AND a dog.
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The way he dealt with the situation makes him a shitty cop with some pretty poor split-second decision making. Refusing to even apologize just makes him a shitty humanbeing. Probably he smelled the lawsuit coming.
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Originally Posted by Speevy: View Post
When I was 10 years old, I was waiting for the school bus when a great dane jumped on me.

This animal was not attacking. It was playing. My arms and legs were pretty bloody and scratched up, however. We had to get the cops.

The dog jumped all over the first person to approach them.

And the officer pepper sprayed the great dane, then put it in a truck.

Crisis over.
I've pulled fighting dogs apart, ended up with wounds and all on a regular basis. There was never a need to kill a dog, even if it was in full-on kill mode itself. Dogs only willingly attack people in the most extreme of situations. People being killed by domestic dogs is like a lottery win. It just doesn't happen unless something really weird is going on. If you're going around as an officer of the law expecting death and mayhem around every corner, then you're a fucked-up individual in the wrong job, at the very least because you're clinically psychotic and a gun is at your disposal. This is a trivial assessment.
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Originally Posted by Timedog: View Post
Can someone explain why the cop immediately just pulled a gun out on some dude in his backyard?
He could have been just reaching for it so if anything happened his hand would be there IDK He doesn´t pull it out till after the video ends and who knows how the dog came at him.

Originally Posted by -Eddman-: View Post
And sadly, excluding a few exceptions, cops are sub-humans whithout common sense.
no
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Originally Posted by Timedog: View Post
Can someone explain why the cop immediately just pulled a gun out on some dude in his backyard?
This is a pretty standard procedure. When you get a call the information relayed is incredibly vague. In this case he heard that someone is strangling a woman, so he rushed in with the gun to try to save a life. Any cop in this situation would probably have a gun pulled like this.

And if you then hear a dog coming at you you really don't have much time to react. There's no way he could've reached for his spray or taser, after holstering his weapon, in time to protect himself. He probably panicked, thought rabies or something and shot first. It's a very tragic story but then again I can also understand his side of it.