[Escape Goat]

They totally threw that Cap/IronMan combo out like it wasn't a big deal. Camera pans up to follow Hulk and you see Cap moving his shield in the bottom left corner of the screen.

[bigboss370]

I was only able to actually follow that sequence on my third viewing. It's an extreme closeup, and unless you're looking at the right part of the screen you get completely lost.

really? i could barely even see their hands the way i remember it.

[Jtrizzy]

Pretty sure that would count as one of his 6 films. I doubt they'd waste it on a total fan service shot.

Too bad. Probably why Portman only got that brief mention and photo in Avengers? I was hoping to see Thor bang that out upon his return to earth.

[KevinCow]

I just remember, there's a part during shooting where hiddleston simply told hemsworth to just punch him for real because whedon said the action is not convincing enough. Anywone know wich part is that? I think it's supposed to be a bodyblow.

God damn, Hiddleston has some massive balls. "Yes, man with arms big enough to believably play THOR, THE NORSE GOD OF THUNDER, feel free to punch me for real."

On that note, another scene that went by so damn quick, but when Iron Man and the Cap'n were on the ground going toe to toe against alien soldier dudes, did we catch a glimpse of Iron Man reflecting a zzorch beam off the Captain's shield and into the baddies like some video game co-op combo? I thought so but it was over before I could think.

Same thing happened to me. Iron Man was flying away to do something else by the time I realized what what I'd just seen, and I started to wonder if that was actually what I saw. Surely my eyes must have been mistaken, because something like that would be way too awesome to shove into a big action scene where the viewer could miss it. Any other movie would have the characters talk about it for ten seconds and then do it in slow motion, just to make sure you didn't miss it.

But The Avengers? The Avengers is all like, "Oh, you missed that one totally awesome shot? That's cool, we've got like a million more. In fact, we're about to pan around the city in the most awesome long shot ever and show every character doing something awesome. I'm sure you'll catch it the second time you see this movie. Because you're coming back, right? Yeah. We both know you totally are."

[NullPointer]

Too bad. Probably why Portman only got that brief mention and photo in Avengers? I was hoping to see Thor bang that out upon his return to earth.

I cracked up with the Portman bit. Oh here's a photograph, and yeah, don't worry, she's in a safe location. Haha.

[Dram]

Pretty sure that would count as one of his 6 films. I doubt they'd waste it on a total fan service shot.

That reminds me Jackson is under contract for nine films, how many has he been in so far?

[NullPointer]

Same thing happened to me. Iron Man was flying away to do something else by the time I realized what what I'd just seen, and I started to wonder if that was actually what I saw. Surely my eyes must have been mistaken, because something like that would be way too awesome to shove into a big action scene where the viewer could miss it. Any other movie would have the characters talk about it for ten seconds and then do it in slow motion, just to make sure you didn't miss it. But The Avengers? The Avengers is all like, "Oh, you missed that one totally awesome shot? That's cool, we've got like a million more. In fact, we're about to pan around the city in the most awesome long shot ever and show every character doing something awesome. I'm sure you'll catch it the second time you see this movie. Because you're coming back, right? Yeah. We both know you totally are."

Seriously :) Glad I wasn't alone in that.

And yeah, if I was doing the commercials for the Avengers I would wait maybe a month out, once ticket sales start to dwindle, and I'd just show that ONE long shot of all of them in action across the city. Then it would just say "The Avengers, Now Playing". Bam.

[HomerSimpson-Man]

God damn, Hiddleston has some massive balls. "Yes, man with arms big enough to believably play THOR, THE NORSE GOD OF THUNDER, feel free to punch me for real." Same thing happened to me. Iron Man was flying away to do something else by the time I realized what what I'd just seen, and I started to wonder if that was actually what I saw. Surely my eyes must have been mistaken, because something like that would be way too awesome to shove into a big action scene where the viewer could miss it. Any other movie would have the characters talk about it for ten seconds and then do it in slow motion, just to make sure you didn't miss it. But The Avengers? The Avengers is all like, "Oh, you missed that one totally awesome shot? That's cool, we've got like a million more. In fact, we're about to pan around the city in the most awesome long shot ever and show every character doing something awesome. I'm sure you'll catch it the second time you see this movie. Because you're coming back, right? Yeah. We both know you totally are."

God, I need to see this movie again.

[Tobor]

That reminds me Jackson is under contract for nine films, how many has he been in so far?

4.

Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Cap, and The Avengers.

[VisionaryQuest0]

4. Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Cap, and The Avengers.

You forgot Thor, so that's 5 down.

[Jtrizzy]

So do they basically put out one new movie in this universe a year?

[Tobor]

You forgot Thor, so that's 5 down.

Ahh, yeah, the teaser from Thor. Right.

[Good Job Bob]

So do they basically put out one new movie in this universe a year?

Two.

[KevinCow]

4. Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Cap, and The Avengers.

And Thor. He was in the post-credits scene. So 5.

THIS THREAD MOVES TOO FAST.

[VisionaryQuest0]

So do they basically put out one new movie in this universe a year?

Last year they had Thor and Captain America.

Next year Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 will be out.

[Tobor]

2008: 2 Iron Man and Incredible Hulk
2009: 0
2010: 1 Iron Man 2
2011: 2 Thor and Cap
2012: 1 The Avengers

[Good Job Bob]

I think Feige said they might even do 3 movies a year.

[spindashing]

Wait, Coulson actually died? I thought the whole "hurr hurr these were in his locker" moment meant that he somehow survived.

[VisionaryQuest0]

Wait, Coulson actually died? I thought the whole "hurr hurr these were in his locker" moment meant that he somehow survived.

He's dead. Fury took the cards out of his locker and lied to them to "give them a push".

[Clayton Bigsby]

I think Feige said they might even do 3 movies a year.

He basically said they try for 2 movies a year, but it isnt a big deal if they have 1 or 3 coming out a year. It was a long way to say they can pretty much put out whatever they want.

[PhoncipleBone]

Yea, at that point the movie was racking up money shots like it was going for a high score combo. Need to watch again to catch everything.

And there was no combo breaker in sight.

[NullPointer]

He's dead. Fury took the cards out of his locker and lied to them to "give them a push".

Not only lied to them, but also took the time to smear the dude's blood on the cards? Fury doesn't fuck around.

[spindashing]

He's dead. Fury took the cards out of his locker and lied to them to "give them a push".

/Damn./ What a move.

[Dram]

Well Joss said he survived in an interview, but who knows if that will change later.

[Tobor]

Not only lied to them, but also took the time to smear the dude's blood on the cards? Fury doesn't fuck around.

There were dead guys everywhere, I bet Fury just found the closest one on his way back to the bridge. Twisted.

[Smellycat]

Finally got around to watching the movie, and it is awesome!! I wasn't really hyped it, but I was going to watch regardless of the word of mouth. It is everything a good summer blockbuster should be! It has good acting, great dialogue, awesome action and enough humor sprinkled in.

But I do want to mention the fact that the finale is pretty much a carbon copy of the one in Transformers 3. I was a bit surprised to be honest. It kind of felt lazy.

I mean, the bad guy decides to go to a big city and launch a portal (that can't be easily destoryed) from the highest building. That portal then allows the rest of the aliens to come in and start invading earth. And there are these huge worm looking aliens that complicate things. In order to stop this invasion, the portal has to be destroyed.

Which movie did I just describe? Transformers or Avengers? You can't really tell.

[Clayton Bigsby]

/Damn./ What a move.

He isnt dead. At least not permanently. He already has said he has been talking to the studio about being in more of the films.

[VisionaryQuest0]

Well Joss said he survived in an interview, but who knows if that will change later.

Kevin Feige said in a recent podcast interview with Empire Mag that Coulson really is dead, and also that it wasn't Joss' idea. Joss said to him he knew people would put the blame on him because he's known for killing beloved characters off.

[Jtrizzy]

Were many of these movies actually planned or is a lot of this due to Iron Man?

[Sentry]

Ultimates is not Ultimate Comics Avengers, as mentioned.

Glad to see people talking about 'The Ultimates' a few pages back (#1 & 2), definitely a great read. But yeah, hopefully no one makes the mistake of picking up 'Ultimate Avengers' instead. Not nearly as good.

[Korey]

There were dead guys everywhere, I bet Fury just found the closest one on his way back to the bridge. Twisted.

He honored the dude's death by breaking into his locker and fucking up his vintage collectible card collection asap. Not only is his character shit and his acting sucks, he's also an asshole.

[jdogmoney]

Boy I'm glad I never saw Transformers 3, if the similarities are that distracting. Movie was fantastic, look forward to seeing it again...in 2D this time, hopefully.

[VisionaryQuest0]

Were many of these movies actually planned or is a lot of this due to Iron Man?

All due to Iron Man being a success. The whole tease at the end of Iron Man was actually a last minute scene to gauge how people responded to it. If Iron Man wasn't a success we wouldn't have any of these movies.

[Sentry]

2008: 2 Iron Man and Incredible Hulk 2009: 0 2010: 1 Iron Man 2 2011: 2 Thor and Cap 2012: 1 The Avengers

2013: 2 IM3 & Thor 2
2014: 2 CA2 & Ant-Man(?)
2015: 1 The Avengers 2

It's possible that 2015 gets another movie alongside A2, though. Or 2015 gets TWO new movies and A2 in 2016. Who knows..

[Callibretto]

Were many of these movies actually planned or is a lot of this due to Iron Man?

They contract jackson for 9 movies since ironman, so they already planned this since then, but the detail may changed as they go, but the goal of avenger movie has been there since ironman

[Jtrizzy]

Yeah I thought killing of Colson was lame. He's kind of like r2d2 and c3po all in one.

[MechDX]

Everytime I see a new article, watch a Youtube vid or eneter this thread I giggle like a damn kid! Iron Man was my first comic I ever picked up and The Avengers was my second. To see it all hitting on the big screen just makes me feel like an 8 year old kid again.

[Sentry]

Hope it's not posted yet: http://www.vulture.com/2012/05/how-m...enger-get.html Hawkeye: 12:44. It’s no surprise that Jeremy Renner’s assassin was the recipient of the least screen time. His talent involves being a really good archer with a really awesome collapsible bow and really explosive arrows. His longest scene (2:40) is a conversation with Black Widow following a brawl between the two of them. Thor: 25:52. Chris Hemsworth gets more than his share of hitting people moments, yet is limited to only one extended dialogue scene — a 2:13-long conversation with brother Loki atop a mountain at night. (Though his perfectly timed “He’s adopted” line got maybe the third or fourth biggest laugh of the film.) Bruce Banner: 28:03 ... if you're combining the double-duty Mark Ruffalo pulls as both Banner and the Hulk (and you really ought to, since the actor donned a motion-capture suit to play the latter). Still, Ruffalo's unchanged mug gets 20:29 minutes of screen time, which is more than is afforded Renner. Black Widow: 33:35. The most surprising thing to emerge from our little experiment was the fact that Scarlett Johansson’s three-point landing super-assassin got the third-most screen time of all the superheroes. In fact, she got the most unbroken dialogue scenes of any of the six: her introductory interrogation scene (3:14); recruiting Banner in the slums (2:49); a face-off on the Helicarrier with Loki (3:30); and a conversation with Hawkeye following their fight (2:40). Looks like Whedon realized he needed to give one of the film’s two strong female characters lots of talk time. Iron Man: 37:01. Not surprising, given the manner in which the Downey Jr. one-liner has become the most reliable part of a Marvel movie. His Tony Stark also gets several extended dialogue scenes: particularly one with Pepper Potts and Agent Coulson (4:48), and another with Loki right before the film’s third-act battle scene (3:52). Captain America: 37:42. He squeaks by Iron Man, which makes sense, since much of the film’s internal debate about selfishness versus selflessness occurs between Chris Evans’s Cap and Downey’s Stark. He shares substantial scenes with almost every character and is one of the last faces we see on screen, as he rides off on his motorcycle.

That's quite balanced, aside from Hawkeye. But man it's depressing to think Cap got the most screen time yet was the most disappointing. He wasn't bad, per say, but more could've been done.

[Glass Rebel]

I hope they do 2 new movies before Avengers. Gimme Strange and Pym/Wasp.

[NullPointer]

All due to Iron Man being a success. The whole tease at the end of Iron Man was actually a last minute scene to gauge how people responded to it. If Iron Man wasn't a success we wouldn't have any of these movies.

All hail Robert Downey Jr.

All hail Burger King Whoppers.

[IceCold]

Boy I'm glad I never saw Transformers 3, if the similarities are that distracting. Movie was fantastic, look forward to seeing it again...in 2D this time, hopefully.

I watched Transformer 3 a couple of weeks ago and didn't even think about it while watching The Avengers. In fact, I already forgot most its plot. That's how crappy that movie was - my brain is in a hurry to erase any memory I have of it.

[Hawkian]

Same thing happened to me. Iron Man was flying away to do something else by the time I realized what what I'd just seen, and I started to wonder if that was actually what I saw. Surely my eyes must have been mistaken, because something like that would be way too awesome to shove into a big action scene where the viewer could miss it. Any other movie would have the characters talk about it for ten seconds and then do it in slow motion, just to make sure you didn't miss it. But The Avengers? The Avengers is all like, "Oh, you missed that one totally awesome shot? That's cool, we've got like a million more. In fact, we're about to pan around the city in the most awesome long shot ever and show every character doing something awesome. I'm sure you'll catch it the second time you see this movie. Because you're coming back, right? Yeah. We both know you totally are."

Reading this over just reminded me of something I've been thinking since I saw the movie but haven't been able to put my finger on.

Joss Whedon (or whoever decided these sorts of things in the relevant sequences) truly understands how to use slow motion in an action movie.

What do I mean by this?

When you show something in slow motion, there are a few reasons you want to do so:
1) The action in question would be too fast for a human eye to catch at full speed, so you slow it down so the audience can see it clearly
2) To communicate something otherworldly or superhuman (besides speed) that wouldn't be as easily-understood in full speed
3) To highlight the emotional resonance of the onscreen action (very common in war movies)
4) To make it look cool

Par for the course these days is to forget about 1-3 and just rely on 4, and in fact abuse the hell out of it, just 4 over and over and over again to just slather your action scenes in a gratutious layer of slow motion cool until nobody could possibly dispute how fucking cool it is. Moviemakers throw around slow-motion like it's the default setting on their cameras and they need to really concentrate during action scenes to not slow it down.

Slow-mo is used surprisingly sparingly in the Avengers. In all the instances I can think of, there was at least a decent reason beyond "it looks cool" to justify it. Some examples: Thor hits Hulk in the face with his hammer (2, the impact of this blow would be not just massive, but absolutely incomprehensible to a normal human), Hawkeye shoots an arrow at Loki, who catches it (1), Iron Man falls back toward earth after jettisoning his boosters in space, with the portal rapidly closing (1+3), Cap and Thor battle seemingly non-stop waves of Chitauri as Cap begins to tire (3). Of course they all also look cool, but that's not all those shots had going for them.

I remember all of these scenes and the way slow-motion was used in them clearly, and I'll continue to remember them that way.

"But Hawkian, you just saw the movie a few days ago, you have no clue if you'll remember those shots a few months from now!"

You shut your whore mouth. I have absolutely no doubt; if I had to compare them to something, it would be the slow-mo shots from the original Matrix- Trinity's scorpion kick, Morpheus leaping during the dojo fight, the bullet-dodging/camera rotation scene- scenes clearly intended to demonstrate that these people were clearly performing superhuman feats, using that particular effect. I still remember these moments clearly from my first viewing over ten years ago.

Actionfests like the Transformers flicks or the Underworld sequels just throw slow-motion shots around like candy. I swear, while I remember some shots that were slowed down, I can't remember any particular ones that stand out over any other shots. There was nothing there beyond the "cool."

I hope future action films take note.

[ThatCrazyGuy]

I was bummed out when colson died tbh. Liked his role in the movies.

[Tobor]

2013: 2 IM3 & Thor 2 2014: 2 CA2 & Ant-Man(?) 2015: 1 The Avengers 2 It's possible that 2015 gets another movie alongside A2, though. Or 2015 gets TWO new movies and A2 in 2016. Who knows..

I think a Hulk movie is going to be wedged in there somewhere. Not sure how or when, maybe it's the second big 2014 pic and Ant-Man is treated as a smaller third pic?

[bigboss370]

He's dead. Fury took the cards out of his locker and lied to them to "give them a push".

give who a push though? only Cap and Stark were at that table.

[Replicant]

Yep. I know the scene and it makes me wince whenever these big theater blockbusters pull the camera in too tight to impart some chaos. On that note, another scene that went by so damn quick, but when Iron Man and the Cap'n were on the ground going toe to toe against alien soldier dudes, did we catch a glimpse of Iron Man reflecting a zzorch beam off the Captain's shield and into the baddies like some video game co-op combo? I thought so but it was over before I could think.

I was already so impressed by Cap somersaulting all over the place while fighting the Chitauris. So when Iron Man swoop down and did that, I was flabbergasted. It was so cool, I didn't think it was possible.

[Jtrizzy]

That's quite balanced, aside from Hawkeye. But man it's depressing to think Cap got the most screen time yet was the most disappointing. He wasn't bad, per say, but more could've been done.

why were people disappointed with him in the movie?

[Tobor]

give who a push though? only Cap and Stark were at that table.

That's who needed the push. Thor was ready, Black Widow and Hawkeye will follow orders, and Banner is a wild card. He needed Stark and Cap motivated.

[Escape Goat]

give who a push though? only Cap and Stark were at that table.

Banner was in the back. But Widow and Hawkeye work for Shield. Those 3 were the only ones who had to be convinced to stay.

[sharbhund]

They contract jackson for 9 movies since ironman, so they already planned this since then, but the detail may changed as they go, but the goal of avenger movie has been there since ironman

I'm pretty just the Jackson 9-picture contract was signed after Iron Man had already been released and was a hit. I'm not sure if the cameo at the end of the first Iron Man counts as one of the 9 movies.