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Emitan
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(04-19-2012, 05:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by duckroll

What does that mean?

When I quoted it he just said "play like MH". Which already has its audience on 3DS and isn't really that popular here.
Kyon
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(04-19-2012, 05:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by Billychu

It probably won't because they want it to sell huge in the west (probably)

WHAT ABOUT US JRPG/Japanese Game fans? :( we matter too
Krev
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Originally Posted by CamHostage

No, and I'm wondering if maybe Sony is having it both ways and is doing its own Souls game (they've had connections with FromSoft all along, maybe it wasn't tough to contract that or maybe they even retained some rights themselves) for Vita similar to how they did their own White Knight Chronicle game?

That's what I'm thinking.
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(04-19-2012, 05:31 AM)
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This artwork really isn't giving me a Souls vibe. I really doubt this is a FROM joint, but I'd love to be proven wrong. Though that would mean I'd have to buy a Vita...
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(04-19-2012, 05:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by Billychu

When I quoted it he just said "play like MH". Which already has its audience on 3DS and isn't really that popular here.

But this game is pretty clearly developed for Japan. Sony already have a bunch of western games in development on the Vita. If they're making a game for the west, they wouldn't even bother making it in Japan to begin with. :P
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(04-19-2012, 05:32 AM)
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Don't Sony still own the Demon's Souls IP?
Kyon
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(04-19-2012, 05:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jinfash

I hope it plays nothing like MH.

3G is probably going to be released this year and I'm sinking a couple of hundred hours into it. But this is gonna end up being a giant monster killing, 4 player co-op game anyways, so all I can realistically ask for is a fresh take on the formula.

hmm I have no problemo with this

Originally Posted by Krev

Don't Sony still own the Demon's Souls IP?

yesh :3
Jinfash
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(04-19-2012, 05:35 AM)
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@Duckroll: Where and when did the rumors of From backing a Sony project originate and are you putting any stock into it?
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(04-19-2012, 05:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by duckroll

But this game is pretty clearly developed for Japan. Sony already have a bunch of western games in development on the Vita. If they're making a game for the west, they wouldn't even bother making it in Japan to begin with. :P

One could say that Demon's Souls was developed with Japan in mind and look how that turned out
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(04-19-2012, 05:38 AM)
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The enemy design looks horrid, like they found them crumpled in the trash of the Soul Calibur art team.
Interested to see where this leads and whether this is the start of Sony's take on the "Soul" IP or not.
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Originally Posted by Jinfash

@Duckroll: Where and when did the rumors of From backing a Sony project originate and are you putting any stock into it?

gorl..
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(04-19-2012, 05:39 AM)
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The art direction for this game is cool as hell, but it will probably preclude it from being the really enormous success Sony surely want for Vita right now.
But it might sell a Vita to me! Along with Gravity Rush.
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(04-19-2012, 05:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jinfash

@Duckroll: Where and when did the rumors of From backing a Sony project originate and are you putting any stock to it?

I think there was a rumor about a sort of Vita spin-off sometime in late Feb. I put about as much stock in it as I do for any random post about something on 2ch - which isn't much. There are just as many people who think this could be the Inafune game for example. So we'll see I guess.
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Originally Posted by Billychu

Then theyre cooperating

The same way superman has cooperated with lex luthor if darkseid is coming...
duckroll
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(04-19-2012, 05:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by Patapwn

One could say that Demon's Souls was developed with Japan in mind and look how that turned out

I don't see what that has to do with what I was saying. :P
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(04-19-2012, 05:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by Billychu

When I quoted it he just said "play like MH". Which already has its audience on 3DS and isn't really that popular here.

Clearly the 4m+ MHP3rd players are all on 3DS. It's very apparent in the sales of 3G.
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(04-19-2012, 05:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by duckroll

I think there was a rumor about a sort of Vita spin-off sometime in late Feb. I put about as much stock in it as I do for any random post about something on 2ch - which isn't much. There are just as many people who think this could be the Inafune game for example. So we'll see I guess.

Didn't inafune get in trouble with sony when he said he was working on a Vita game? That would be pretty weird if it was just a third party game.
frAntic_Frog
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(04-19-2012, 05:43 AM)

Originally Posted by Kyon

WHAT ABOUT US JRPG/Japanese Game fans? :( we matter too

no offense but its clearly a dying breed seeing how trends this gen have panned out
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(04-19-2012, 05:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by prwxv3

Didn't inafune get in trouble with sony when he said he was working on a Vita game? That would be pretty weird if it was just a third party game.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Sony actually hosted a video of him announcing his intention of making a Vita game, without any details. Why would he get in trouble for that?
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(04-19-2012, 05:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by duckroll

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Sony actually hosted a video of him announcing his intention of making a Vita game, without any details. Why would he get in trouble for that?

Before that
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(04-19-2012, 05:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by prwxv3

Before that

I don't think I paid attention to whatever happened then, or I forgot.
prwxv3
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(04-19-2012, 05:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by duckroll

I don't think I paid attention to whatever happened then, or I forgot.

Here it is http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/08/ke...nced-projects/
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Originally Posted by duckroll

I don't see what that has to do with what I was saying. :P

I thought you were saying this game was geared at japan. Which is obviously a fair assumption to make. But with implication that it holds no weight in the west as "Sony already have a bunch of western games in development on the Vita. If they're making a game for the west, they wouldn't even bother making it in Japan to begin with."

I used DS as a potential parallel to what this game could become.
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(04-19-2012, 05:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Patapwn

I thought you were saying this game was geared at japan. Which is obviously a fair assumption to make. But with implication that it holds no weight in the west as "Sony already have a bunch of western games in development on the Vita. If they're making a game for the west, they wouldn't even bother making it in Japan to begin with."

I used DS as a potential parallel to what this game could become.

I was replying to someone who said that this game will probably be nothing like Monster Hunter because he thinks that somehow Sony will not be interested in making a Monster Hunter game since they're not very popular in the West. It's just terrible logic.
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(04-19-2012, 05:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by prwxv3

Here it is http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/08/ke...nced-projects/

I was under the impression he was referring to the same Game Heaven game. Sony gave him trouble because it was one of the event's "major announcements." It's what a number of websites corroborated as well, iirc.
Emitan
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(04-19-2012, 05:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by duckroll

It's just terrible logic.

At least I'm consistent!
Epic Drop
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(04-19-2012, 05:58 AM)
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I want to believe that this is somehow related to the demon souls franchise so badly. May 10th can't come quickly enough...
prwxv3
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(04-19-2012, 06:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jinfash

I was under the impression he was referring to the same Game Heaven game. Sony gave him trouble because it was one of the event's "major announcements." It's what a number of websites corroborated as well, iirc.

That is probably true.

That six page ad is a good sign though. When has sony bought a six page ad for a announced game much less a un-announced game.
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duckroll
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(04-19-2012, 06:04 AM)
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You know, I'm curious. There are lots of people wanting this game to be related to Demon's Souls or From Software. Let's say it is a From Software game, but Miyazaki has nothing to do with the game, and another team at From Software is making a 4-player action game where you equip skills and fight giant monsters. There are no complex levels, not RPG elements, just lots of action. What then? Will you be satisfied just because you get to check boxes that say "Sony", "From Software", and "Dark Fantasy"? Regardless of game quality or genre? At that point does it really matter who makes it?
Kyon
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(04-19-2012, 06:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by duckroll

You know, I'm curious. There are lots of people wanting this game to be related to Demon's Souls or From Software. Let's say it is a From Software game, but Miyazaki has nothing to do with the game, and another team at From Software is making a 4-player action game where you equip skills and fight giant monsters. There are no complex levels, not RPG elements, just lots of action. What then? Will you be satisfied just because you get to check boxes that say "Sony", "From Software", and "Dark Fantasy"? Regardless of game quality or genre? At that point does it really matter who makes it?

i think i'm gonna wait and see what this is before i could possibly think of answering this
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(04-19-2012, 06:07 AM)
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I'll be sure to check this forum on 5/9.
areal
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Originally Posted by ReturnOfTheRAT

I'll be sure to check Amazon on 5/9.

Sigh.
Jinfash
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No, I think the answer to Duckroll's question is pretty obvious; I'd hate for this project to amount to nothing but an uninspired, soulless (HA) effort independent of Miyazaki's team. That type of box-checking is for luring chumps. Thanks, but no thanks.
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Kyon
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Originally Posted by Jinfash

No, I think the answer to Duckroll's question is pretty obvious; I'd hate for this project to amount to nothing but an uninspired, soulless (HA) effort independent of Miyazaki's team. Checking those kinds of boxes is for luring chumps. Thanks, but no thanks.

Amen
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(04-19-2012, 06:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by duckroll

You know, I'm curious. There are lots of people wanting this game to be related to Demon's Souls or From Software. Let's say it is a From Software game, but Miyazaki has nothing to do with the game, and another team at From Software is making a 4-player action game where you equip skills and fight giant monsters. There are no complex levels, not RPG elements, just lots of action. What then? Will you be satisfied just because you get to check boxes that say "Sony", "From Software", and "Dark Fantasy"? Regardless of game quality or genre? At that point does it really matter who makes it?

There would be hell to pay. I don't know about other people, but my entire perception of this game hinges on the faith that maybe this will be like Demon's/Dark souls. It would be fine if some elements of MH seeped in, but it's true that I would be massively disinterested if it's just a sawdust filled knockoff of MH coated with a dark fantasy finish.

I think when people throw out their "PLEASE BE FROM!" monikers it's assumed that the quality and overall feel of the souls games comes with it. And let's be honest, discussion of this game wouldn't have reached 4 pages let alone 2 on this site if there wasn't the possibly that this could be demons souls portable.
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(04-19-2012, 06:16 AM)

Originally Posted by duckroll

You know, I'm curious. There are lots of people wanting this game to be related to Demon's Souls or From Software. Let's say it is a From Software game, but Miyazaki has nothing to do with the game, and another team at From Software is making a 4-player action game where you equip skills and fight giant monsters. There are no complex levels, not RPG elements, just lots of action. What then? Will you be satisfied just because you get to check boxes that say "Sony", "From Software", and "Dark Fantasy"? Regardless of game quality or genre? At that point does it really matter who makes it?

I'd be okay with that as long as the game has a similar level of depth as the other Souls games, and more importantly, the atmosphere is as amazing.
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(04-19-2012, 06:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Patapwn

There would be hell to pay. I don't know about other people, but my entire perception of this game hinges on the faith that maybe this will be like Demon's/Dark souls. It would be fine if some elements of MH seeped in, but it's true that I would be massively disinterested if it's just a sawdust filled knockoff of MH coated with a dark fantasy finish.

I think when people throw out their "PLEASE BE FROM!" monikers it's assumed that the quality and overall feel of the souls games comes with it. And let's be honest, discussion of this game wouldn't have reached 4 pages let alone 2 on this site if there wasn't the possibly that this could be demons souls portable.

Then I should point out that this is definitely an action game, and that Sony has not suggested or implied at all that it has anything to do with From Software or RPGs of any kind. The 6-page ad they put in Famitsu clearly states that this is an action game and that it will feature some sort of evolved co-op gameplay.

Keep expectations in check.
slade
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Personally, I just want a really good single player mode with some sort of a story. Demon and Dark Souls did not have this so I hope this isn't related to them in any way.
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Originally Posted by duckroll

Then I should point out that this is definitely an action game, and that Sony has not suggested or implied at all that it has anything to do with From Software or RPGs of any kind. The 6-page ad they put in Famitsu clearly states that this is an action game and that it will feature some sort of evolved co-op gameplay.

Keep expectations in check.

I just want a fun co-op game. Not expecting the world or anything.
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(04-19-2012, 06:54 AM)
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Not a handheld guy, but this may be the game to make me look into it. Especially if it is what I think it is.
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Originally Posted by ReturnOfTheRAT

I'll be sure to check this forum on 5/9.

you jest, but it will be 5/9 in the US when it's 5/10 in Japan.
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Originally Posted by duckroll

You know, I'm curious. There are lots of people wanting this game to be related to Demon's Souls or From Software. Let's say it is a From Software game, but Miyazaki has nothing to do with the game, and another team at From Software is making a 4-player action game where you equip skills and fight giant monsters. There are no complex levels, not RPG elements, just lots of action. What then? Will you be satisfied just because you get to check boxes that say "Sony", "From Software", and "Dark Fantasy"? Regardless of game quality or genre? At that point does it really matter who makes it?

To me the most important thing from From Soft is their combat mechanic, other stuff is just bonus.
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Originally Posted by Canova

Sony just needs to buy the fuck out From Soft. period.

I think From trusts Sony with exclusivity on their titles about as far as one of their employees could pick up and throw SCE's corporate office after the debacle with Demon's Souls.

I highly, highly doubt they'd let Sony buy them, especially after getting commercial success with Dark Souls being multiplatform.
michaelius
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(04-19-2012, 12:40 PM)

Originally Posted by Patapwn

One could say that Demon's Souls was developed with Japan in mind and look how that turned out

Japanise games developed for West are universally shit - they ones that are great are made for Japan ;)
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(04-19-2012, 12:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Canova

To me the most important thing from From Soft is their combat mechanic, other stuff is just bonus.

But From is a pretty big company, they have all sorts of different combat mechanics...
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Originally Posted by duckroll

But From is a pretty big company, they have all sorts of different combat mechanics...

I meant th Souls combat mechanic, if they could put that thing in many of their games, I'll be their most loyal customer
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(04-19-2012, 12:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Canova

I meant th Souls combat mechanic, if they could put that thing in many of their games, I'll be their most loyal customer

Well you'll probably be disappointed regardless then, since it looks like this game won't have any melee combat. :P
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This could be the game that makes me get a Vita.

Can't wait to find out more. Looks very promising.
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and people said to wait for E3 for Sony to unveil games
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I really don't see this being a From Software developed Souls game, at least not by the Demon's/Dark Souls team.

I do like the artwork shown so far though, and can't wait to hear more about how it will play.

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