[Heavy's Sandvich]

Any good?

I'd used it when I was at the Eurogamer Expo last year and it seemed great. Anyone else use it?

[lastflowers]

I've been using this for a year: http://cyborggaming.com/prod/rat7.htm


Served me well

[drelixer]

Logitech G500's a sweet wired mouse with minimal frills. Variable weighting and tracking sensitivity too.

I bought this mouse when my Logitech wireless didn't have the precision I needed for a few of the games that I play (would make a square pattern when trying to headshot in Killing Floor). Best mouse I've ever owned.

[HiddenWings]

I bought this mouse when my Logitech wireless didn't have the precision I needed for a few of the games that I play (would make a square pattern when trying to headshot in Killing Floor). Best mouse I've ever owned.

I'm a big fan of the G500. The MX518, has angle snapping which can cause that "square pattern". Having said that, I recently stopped using the G500 and started using the Naga Hex, which I like much better.

[Forsaken82]

Sadly I can confirm this. I got my Razer Naga for Xmas '09 and it died 7 months later. The laser on the thing stopped working. It had a finicky laser from the start though. It didn't work with the mousepad that worked fine for my old MS Sindwinder mouse. I had to go buy another pad for it to work. I liked the buttons though. 1-6 were fine but 7-12 weren't comfortable to use. It got replaced with a G700. Right out of the box the quality of the G700 was miles ahead of the cheap feeling Naga. Only 4 buttons on the side but these 4 feel more usable than the ones on the side of the Naga. And the scroll wheel is light years ahead of the Nagas wheel. And it's lasted me well over the last few years. Laser works on pretty much any surface I throw at it, even my pant leg.

The only problem I have ever had with a Razer product is that the button stuck (it was a refurbed Mamba i got for 50 bucks) I sent it in to be replaced under warranty, got a replacement within 5 days and it has been working for over a year now. The only problem I have ever encountered with a razer product in the 5 years I have used them (ive owned a copperhead and a mamba, only reason upgraded was because I wanted the higher DPI of the Mamba and wireless functionality) That being said, I have experienced more problems with Logitech in the past, but I am not going to chastise them for what I hear are quality products now like some people are in this thread. I would say go to a best buy or something and get some hands on with a few see which you like the best.

[Cipherr]

Wireless mouse is must in my opinion. Wireless options are really good nowadays unless you are into very competitive gaming. I can't tell the precision difference between my Logitech G5 and Performance MX. There is no going back to the mouse cord drag after using a good wireless mouse!

Blasphemy. High adjustable dpi, 6+ buttons, wired, final destination.

Oh, and

[Concept17]

Have never had an issue in the 6-7+ years of my current MX518. Best mouse ever created. I've played every type of game, endless hours of CS, etc. Its so awesome.

It'll be a sad day when it stops(if) it stops working.

[Reclaimer]

http://steelseries.com/products/mice/steelseries-sensei

Steelseries Sensei is my new go to mouse for everything.

Microsoft intellimouse explorer 3 was my all time favorite before the Steelseries Sensi. I have a hybrid claw palm grip, and I do a lot of graphics and modeling work as well as game.

Tried Razor, and went through 2 deathadders and 1 mamba in a months time; their middle mouse click got sloppy fast and then would stop working.

The Steelseries has one of the most stable middle mouse button clicks ever, a great sensor, nice software, no installation if you would rather just use the LCD on the bottom of the mouse, very nice click response, and that silvery finish is actually quite soft. It's a very high quality product, and makes Razer mice feel lik cheap toys.

[8sanders]

Have never had an issue in the 6-7+ years of my current MX518. Best mouse ever created. I've played every type of game, endless hours of CS, etc. Its so awesome. It'll be a sad day when it stops(if) it stops working.

Same here. I bought a spare just in case they stop making them. Timeless classic!

[madmook]

Surprisingly good.

I have one of those. It is in no way good as a gaming mouse, hell I don't even like it for casual web browsing. There is terrible wireless lag when using it.

For gaming, I'm a diehard MS Intellimouse Optical 1.1 fan.

[InscissoryMechanisms]

I have been using a razer lachesis for about 6 months, i quite like it. At first i found the buttons to be heaps stiffer to click than my previous mice, but now i am used to it they feel fine.

Although when i first got it i thought it was faulty, as it would occasionaly stop tracking left and right, turned out to be human error, i hadnt realised there was a seethrough sticker over the laser, once i peeled it off it was smooth as butter.

My previous mouse was a razer diamond back, it was good for about 2 years until the left button started to go, i am hoping the lachesis dosent suffer the same fate.

[witchedwiz]

I would also vote for a Razer, after having had some Logitech mouses that fell apart quite fast, I bought a Razer and never had any complaints. They're sturdy, fast, fluent, everything a gamer can ask for!

Orly?
My naga is 1y and half old, i treat my tech goodie like Kings and yet since 3 months ago it started the doubleclick mumbo-jumbo..l
And there's plenty of people having the same issue with naga.......

[lastplayed]

I use a RAT 3 Cheap and good upgrade from my old sidewinder x3.

I also have this.

I wanted a fancy wired mouse and saw this on special so snapped it up. I love it, my hand feels like it's driving the batmobile.

[accx]

I would stay away from Razer. Quality control is abysmal. I'm a bit of a computer peripherals junkie and while i once loved everything Razer i started noticing several issues (skipping, double click, keys stopped working on keyboards), and went with logitech instead.
The G9X is amazing and while mine broke (completely my own fault) it's an amazing product.
Currently rocking the G700 and i love it. I will be buying a G9X for my desktop and only use the G700 for my laptop later on.

One thing to note about the different Logitech options. The middle mouse button (mouse button 3) requires a lot more force than what you're probably used to. I have rebound the button to left side click on the scroll wheel because i couldn't get used to it.

I also have anecdotal evidence from friends in retail that the logitech return policy is top notch. They often don't even require they send the product in and just replace it flat out, even though the product might be out of warranty. That right there is a major reason why i tend to buy logitech these days.


EDIT:
Oh, the most useful thing about the different logitech mice is the button that locks/unlocks the scroll wheel. It basically changes the scroll wheel from the standard scrolling to a sort of infinite scroll setting. It's one of the most useful features i've ever used.
Makes my life so much easier.

[Dice]

Wow, a lot of battle in here. I've seen people around the internet saying their Razer fucked up and people saying their Logitech fucked up and also plenty of both sides saying theirs has been faithful for years, so I'm not going to assume one is worse than the other. For me, a newer Logitech I used started doubleclicking only like 3 months after I got it.

Right now I'm using a trackball but I'm getting tired of choosing between it and the 360 controller so I want to get a gaming mouse. I'm considering a Razer Naga since it has a more similar form factor, which I quite like, and I'd like to get into DOTA2 but I hate using function keys on keyboard. My only issue is while it seems much more multi-functional, it's $20-30 more than a more traditional option and I'm poor.

[sorijealut]

Keep the mouse simple. It's about the keyboard.

I used MX518, now G400.

G400 is the one.

[SmartBase]

I used my Logitech G5 from 2005 up until a few months ago, stupid scroll wasn't working any more. I now use a G700, no complaints whatsoever.

[Revolutionary]

I have a G500 and I love it. I was rocking wireless mice for a few years (MX Revolution) but now that I've switched back to wired, I don't think I can ever look back. I always wrote off the input lag as negligible before but I now know that seemingly-minute input lag is possible and detrimental in just about every online game.

[fluffydelusions]

I have a g500 I will sell for $40...is that in your budget? It is a spare my gf never uses.

[Chittagong]

My G700 just got delivered, this thing better be as good as GAF said it is!

[Dice]

I have a g500 I will sell for $40...is that in your budget? It is a spare my gf never uses.

That's my strict maximum for monthly spending on entertainment stuff. That is why I'm considering this stuff vs just dealing with my current setup (i.e. not playing much multiplayer anything) and an extra $20+ (for Naga) is substantial when weighting value. I'll consider your offer for now, as I have used this month's entertainment budget.

[MadmanUK]

I just bought a G500 on Saturday to replace my old wireless Logitech that has been double clicking for a few months. Feels good man.

I also ended up buying a new keyboard and mousemat, eek don't tell the missus.

[Sethos]

My G700 just got delivered, this thing better be as good as GAF said it is!

Well, if you don't enjoy it, we know something's wrong with you :P

[Dash Kappei]

Same question as the OP, but I need a wireless gaming mouse (I know it's not the best solution but I PC game on the couch). I don't play MMOs/RTS.
It'd be nice if that thing doesn't cost an arm and a leg, since anything supporting a gamepad I go for that instead.

[Bentendo]

If money isn't much of an issue, which is better: The G500 or the G700? I know I want one of those but can't choose between the two. I LOVE how many buttons are on the G700 but I'm afraid the wireless aspect will cause lag. Does this happen normally? Also: which is more comfortable?

[TricksterLoki]

So I'm looking towards a Cyborg RAT 7 mouse, can anyone give me some of their in depth opinions? I have heard just general good statements, but other than that not much.

[Heavy's Sandvich]

I bought a G500, should be here tomorrow. I hope it lives up to the hype.

[1-D_FTW]

If money isn't much of an issue, which is better: The G500 or the G700? I know I want one of those but can't choose between the two. I LOVE how many buttons are on the G700 but I'm afraid the wireless aspect will cause lag. Does this happen normally? Also: which is more comfortable?

I have no measurements to back this up, but I personally feel the G700 has less wireless lag than the wireless 360 controller. So if you're fine with that, you should love the G700.

[MultiCore]

I spent a long time looking for a mouse with a 1,000hz polling rate, no acceleration, no angle snapping, and minimal lift-off distance.

I had previously owned the original MX518, a G5, a Logitech iFeel, the original MouseMan, 2 Razer Diamondbacks, and a couple of intellimice. (I also had one of the first optical mice ever, which had a mousepad with a grid on it. Man, that was a long time ago.)

Anyway, my search for a good mouse landed on the Zowie EC1.

It feels a little light, but it tracks and glides like a boss. 1,000hz, no drivers needed. No drivers included either, lol.

They have just released an update, the EC1 eVo. Looks to be a worthy upgrade, so I would get this variant if you can. Here's a preview:
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/news.php?newsid=4021

Here's the EC1 at amazon, if you can't wait.

http://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Gear-Bla.../dp/B00457X0YC

So I'm looking towards a Cyborg RAT 7 mouse, can anyone give me some of their in depth opinions? I have heard just general good statements, but other than that not much.

I have a coworker who bought a R.A.T. 7. It looks cool and all, but I don't think it's that special, or worth the price. I haven't had an opportunity to use it for an extended period myself, since it was his mouse, but it seems built well enough, and the customization options are neat, even if they seem kinda "Meh" in the end.

[parski]

Whats the mouse wheel like? Specifically, middle clicking it. Any instances where it scrolled forward instead of it clicking down?

It is fantastic. Not only cosmetically but also performance wise. It is a notch type scroll wheel, so it is not entirely smooth one like on some other mice. The resistance is pretty spot on. It might be a little too stiff for some people but I got used to it. I've never scrolled instead of clicking the wheel. I would notice because my play style in RTS/MOBA games relies A LOT of middle clicking for FOV-control and if you scroll the camera zooms. Since I got this mouse I can't remember ever zooming, a phenomenon that occurred sporadically with my Logitech MX518.

[Flunkie]

MX518 for life, although mine looks a little rough these days. Need to buy a new one.

[Wallach]

Been using an MX518 for years, though I think I'm going to try the 6-button Naga soon. Not getting my hopes up based on their other mice but I could stand to have a few more side buttons for MMOs. Tried the standard Naga but I don't like how small the buttons are on the side due to their number.

[Broseybrose]

I bought a Razer Lachesis last year and after 2 hours of use I already had problems with the sensor. The pointer would skip all over the place on the screen, really annoying. Bought a G500 two weeks ago and it's way better, bedt mouse ever.

This is so strange because i bought a Lachesis 1-2 years ago and its still the best mouse ive ever used... No problems at all. Super comfortable and responsive and most importantly, symmetrical.

[Reclaimer]

This is so strange because i bought a Lachesis 1-2 years ago and its still the best mouse ive ever used... No problems at all. Super comfortable and responsive and most importantly, symmetrical.

Why do I hear this from many people? I recently switched to a symmetrical mouse, and I feel a bit more accurate actually. But I think thats just me getting better (I'm usually a console gamer).

[Dice]

Steelseries Sensei looks good for multiple reasons but I am unsure of right side buttons and it's so pricey. Hmmmm...

[Gileadxv]

I have a Razer Tron, picked it up since it was on sale and my MX510 started to malfunction a few days before. Had the MX510 for more than 6 years and was the best mouse I've ever used.

So very true! I'm using a MX510, and love it. I've had it for who knows how many years, and is by far the best mouse I've used. Sadly, it's now dying on me (it intermittently stops working for a few seconds, then makes a sound like the USB is being re-plugged in, then starts working again). I'm very bummed the MX510 isn't in production any more.

With that said, the Spawn from Cooler Master has me intrigued. At first I thought it was a left handed mouse, then I looked down at my hand (I use a claw grip) and realized that the curvature on the mouse is exactly where the last two fingers on my right hand rest. It seems pretty affordable as well. I may have to give it a try when my MX510 is (tearfully) retired from service).

[Reclaimer]

Steelseries Sensei looks good for multiple reasons but I am unsure of right side buttons and it's so pricey. Hmmmm...

I accidentally hit them at first, so I considered just disabling them. Now I do disable them in most games, but at work I use em for all sorts of quick shortcuts, and it didn't take long to adjust.

Once you find a mouse you think you might like, why not just buy it on Amazon? Try it out, and if it doesn't suit you, return it. You'll never know until the mouse is in your hands.

[Entropia]

The naga is a nice mouse and all but it died on me in 2 years... that's just not cool in my books. :(

I use a Logitech M510 right now in the interim, I'm fixing to get a G700 soon.

[Gully State]

Any good multi button gaming mice for southpaws? While I've eventually adapted to using a mouse with my right hand, I can't help but feel that I've left some accuracy on the table by not using my left.

[Felix Lighter]

If you have a working MX518 is there any noticeable difference if you upgrade to a G400?

For the most part, I really like my MX518 but the one issue I have is given the way I hold my mouse, it's not comfortable to press the front thumb button so it basically goes to waste.

[kpeezy]

I would definitely go optical, other than that it's preference. Maybe it's something that's been fixed in newer laser mice but they all cause the cursor to jump whenever you lift the mouse. With an optical you can lift the mouse and the cursor barely moves at all.

If you're a low sensitivity gamer I would definitely go optical.

[Heavy's Sandvich]

My G500 arrived last night, it's really nice.

I might get a mouse pad for it, so it the respect that it deserves.

[Bluth54]

Get a Logitech G700. Avoid Razer products.

That looks pretty good, I may pick it up. My Microsoft Sidewinder's scroll wheel has been acting up, randomly scrolling down.

The only thing that I don't like, and seems to be an issue with just about every other mouse, is that the buttons on the side are horizontal and not vertical like the Sidewinder. I love the vertical buttons on the sidewinder, so much nicer then any other horizontal buttons I've tried on other mice.

[Tallshortman]

Hard to beat the DeathAdder for FPS games and precision. The sensor is consistently cited as the best out there (the name of the optics company escapes me right now).

[Dice]

Okay well I have decided to save up for a Steelseries Sensei. The right side buttons are a bit scary but everything about it is just too perfect. They have found every way that developers fuck up, either by purposeful design or ignorance, and found a way to correct for it. There is no beating that. Also, the 1mm lift is insane and awesome. I'll adjust to learn how to hold it correctly if I have to.

[codswallop]

I started out with an Intellimouse Pro

Then moved to an MX700 when optical became a thing

Then moved to a G7 when the MX700 charger stopped working

I'm so used to wireless mice I don't think I could go back, but the wireless on the G7 receives interference from my wireless network. Are newer wireless mice better at this?

Without wanting to derail the thread, has anyone seriously tried to use a trackball for gaming purposes? I'm seriously considering an M570 but want to know if anyone's tried this experiment first.

[1-D_FTW]

I started out with an Intellimouse Pro [im]http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/article/980608/imousep2.jpg?mode=pc[/img] Then moved to an MX700 when optical became a thing [ig]http://ak1.ostkcdn.com/images/products/etilize/images/250/10037118.jpg[/img] Then moved to a G7 when the MX700 charger stopped working [im]http://cdn.cbsi.com.au/story_media/240058785/logitech-g7-laser-mouse_1.jpg[/img] I'm so used to wireless mice I don't think I could go back, but the wireless on the G7 receives interference from my wireless network. Are newer wireless mice better at this? Without wanting to derail the thread, has anyone seriously tried to use a trackball for gaming purposes? I'm seriously considering an M570 but want to know if anyone's tried this experiment first. [im]http://www.logitech.com/assets/32954/4/logitech-wireless-trackball-m570.png[/img]

I don't know if the wireless is better, but I had the G7 for about 2 days before I took it back. Absolutely hated it. And it almost prevented me from ever trying another wireless mouse again. The G700 is such a superior mouse to the G7.

[codswallop]

I don't know if the wireless is better, but I had the G7 for about 2 days before I took it back. Absolutely hated it. And it almost prevented me from ever trying another wireless mouse again. The G700 is such a superior mouse to the G7.

Thanks for that. The G700 looks like a pretty good piece of kit. The interference problem I have with the G7 only occurs when there is heavy load over the wireless network (like when uploading a file), during general browsing is fine. I think the G7 is probably what I'll go for, over the unknowns of the Roccat and Mionix that have been suggested in this thread.

Now... if someone's tried the M570 (or any thumb trackball) for gaming I'd love to hear comments.

[hyelife]

I was in your same shoes recently and after some research decided to go with the Logitech G9X. It is the best mouse I have ever used and feels awesome in the hand.

[Martin_Per]

i just bought a G9x and its working well but im not sure if i should return it for a Steelseries Sensei. I just bought a 6Gv2 keyboard and the build quality is phenomenal !