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Originally Posted by /XX/: View Post
The 'casco histórico' de Cuenca (and natural surroundings) is always well worth a visit... so beautiful, but it is true that for practically all the scenes of the series they took bits of many historical places and scenery and reassembled them without a meaningful own input, indoors included as for example the Time Telling Fortress interiors were modeled in a very accurate fashion after the 'Convento e Iglesia de San Pablo'. After all, they granted Paradores, the Spanish state-owned network of exclusive (the staff sure made Aniplex Inc., to foot a good bill) hotels on restored heritage buildings, the symbolic title of "original story" creator. See how much they enjoyed their trip here:

ソ・ラ・ノ・ヲ・ト
http://www.sorawoto.com/special/sp0301.html

ソ・ラ・ノ・ヲ・ト
http://www.sorawoto.com/special/sp0302.html
It's too bad they didn't do a travel documentary like the one with FMP and Aria. It would have been nice to see them walk around the streets to get a sense of the geography. Other than knowing that the fortress is separated from the town by the bridge, you don't really get a sense of where things are in the anime.

It's really funny though. A few years ago I would have considered something like Avatar (both the cartoon and the shitty 3d movie) cultural appropriation. But seeing it happen in the "other direction", I'm totally cool with it now. Presumably the same effect of fetishization is happening here (Spano-phile? :p), but it doesn't really seem skeevy at all.
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Originally Posted by Instro: View Post
You people may call the first episode bad, but was it not memorable?!
Not really, there was waver in class, some stuff in a castle I can't remember, walking in circles, lots of boring talking between brown haired people I didn't care about at that point, and uhh, maybe a worm rape scene? It really wasn't that memorable, especially when compared to other episodes.
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Originally Posted by kayos90: View Post
I don't get it. Why do people think episode 1 of F/Z is so bad?
It was kind of long and boring with no action.
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Originally Posted by Jexhius: View Post
Well, if you have character types from K-On who look like characters from K-On it doesn't help.
Neither the character types nor the art design come from K-On. You are completely, 10)% wrong.

Originally Posted by Jexhius: View Post
I watched like, seven episodes of the show. I know what I am talking about!
You clearly don't, if you think they got the art from K-On, when in fact it's the same exact style as Kannagi, which was from the same studio as SnW and has that same art style (and predates K-On)...

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Except they don't really look like characters from K-on. More like K-on looks like characters from A-1's Kannagi.
Exactly -- the ripoff goes the other way around.

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I'm sorry Cajunator, they just don't seem to understand. :(

Kannagi (A1 Pictures) was the first to use that kind of artstyle, then K-on copied it, you could say. And SnW (A1 Pictures) just continues to use the Kannagi artstyle. Really, it's not that big a deal, but it gets annoying to constantly have people making wrong assumptions about SnW's art.
Yeah, it's very, very annoying.

Originally Posted by Haly: View Post
I didn't watch Kannagi so to me it's "K-ON" art.

Either way it's similar, you cannot deny that, you just can't.
No, we can't deny that you're wrong because of a lack of information, I agree.

Originally Posted by cajunator: View Post
True. and fixed.
I agree that it'd have been interesting to see it with the original art style, but what they used was fine, I think.

Originally Posted by PdotMichael: View Post
even without the K-On copy discussion, the art style is still sub-par if you want make a serious show or more than K-On with girls in military uniforms.
SnW was supposed to be both serious and silly. It succeeded at both.

Originally Posted by Haly: View Post
It's pretty similar, and I'm an expert character art nitpicker.
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/phot...89-600-844.jpg
Watch through episode 4 (never mind the end), and get back to me on that "she's the same as Yui" thing... :lol

Originally Posted by /XX/: View Post
The 'casco histórico' de Cuenca (and natural surroundings) is always well worth a visit... so beautiful, but it is true that for practically all the scenes of the series they took bits of many historical places and scenery and reassembled them without a meaningful own input, indoors included as for example the Time Telling Fortress interiors were modeled in a very accurate fashion after the 'Convento e Iglesia de San Pablo'. After all, they granted Paradores, the Spanish state-owned network of exclusive (the staff sure made Aniplex Inc., to foot a good bill) hotels on restored heritage buildings, the symbolic title of "original story" creator. See how much they enjoyed their trip here:

ソ・ラ・ノ・ヲ・ト
http://www.sorawoto.com/special/sp0301.html

ソ・ラ・ノ・ヲ・ト
http://www.sorawoto.com/special/sp0302.html
Even if it's a bit of a mix and match, it looks fantastic in the show and they did a great job of it for sure.

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You know, I wouldn't call Nasu: Summer in Andalusia a Studio Ghibli film because it has designs that resemble what is styled by them. Some of the character interactions and traits on those two series could be similar, but those interactions precisely create the (I suppose) wanted illusion of normal daily lives for these 'reservists' and people in the town that are immerse on a conflict they see as fairly distant from them, and that makes the unconditional peace seem even more alluring. The scope of the two series is so vastly different I find them not comparable.
Yeah, the idea that the two have similar plots is an illusion that will be broken well before the end of SnW.

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Kannagi: Crazy Shrine Maidens (see the crazy part, although is not THAT crazy) is a complete different story because the more absurd humor and situations are alien to anything seen on the two K-ON! series, more costumbrists.
Kannagi was okay, but yeah, it is even more different in some ways since it's a haremish romance/action/comedy show, not a group-of-girls series... but in terms of setting and world, SnW is the most different for sure.
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Originally Posted by kayos90: View Post
I don't get it. Why do people think episode 1 of F/Z is so bad?
I thought it was awesome, but that exposition scene was terrible.
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Originally Posted by survivor: View Post
Did Kore wa Zombie turn serious yet? Has like 5 episodes out so if they are all comedy should be worth watching.
Watch it! It's a thousand times funnier than anything in season 1 and that itself was pretty funny.

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Alas, it has been banished to the realm of crappy J-dramas. I do hope we can get a Gambling Emperor Zero adaptation one day.
Zero by the Kaiji team would be godly.
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You know, Kobayashi being a smexy girl boy in Ginga e Kickoff and this talk of Sora no Woto makes me want to go back and rewatch SnW sooner rather than later.
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Originally Posted by Instro: View Post
You people may call the first episode bad, but was it not memorable?!
I certainly remember how it nearly made a bunch of people drop the show.
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Originally Posted by firehawk12: View Post
You know, Kobayashi being a smexy girl boy in Ginga e Kickoff and this talk of Sora no Woto makes me want to go back and rewatch SnW sooner rather than later.
I've already started a rewatch (well, to my shame I didn't watch every episode the first time), now's a good time for you to start too!
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Originally Posted by Envelope: View Post
I really don't understand what the fuss about Ali Project is.
The one song they make is kind of boring. The only one I like is Copperia's Casket from Noir.

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Almost dozed off and forgot!

FATE/ZERO 19: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1336817780

Enjoy!
Shit I fell asleep and missed the broadcast :(

Originally Posted by Jexhius: View Post
Pretty damning evidence to be sure. People said the same about Yuki Kajiura but listen to her latest stuff, especially in Fate Zero. Its godlike.

Originally Posted by Makoto: View Post
Bodacious Space Pirates 19



Screw everything about that girl. That shit's way too moe.
Holy genki <3

Originally Posted by Instro: View Post
Fate/Zero
It really wasn''t a bad episode overall. Pulled me right into the show and set everything up nicely. The only problem was the boring 5 minute circling part. Everything else was pretty groovy.

Originally Posted by Jexhius: View Post
It's not just one character it's not just vaguely similar. It's Angel Beats level of character design cloning.
Now you're just wrong.
But whatever. A-1 came up with a style and K-on stole it, so if A-1 used K-on's style (which they didn't) then they are basically stealing from their previous work anyway. Kyo ani are the ones who stole anything. The only reason people say this is because K-ON was more popular so they don't know about Kannagi.
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Originally Posted by Dedication Through Light: View Post
It was kind of long and boring with no action.
There's action like every 3 episodes of talking lol.
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I think the only thing most people really know about Kannagi is the death threats the Author got when one of the characters was revealed to have had a boyfriend in the past.
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In all seriousness though, if we are talking about opening episodes I'm quite partial to Baccano, Eva, and Dirty Pair TV.
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Originally Posted by cajunator: View Post
Now you're just wrong.
But whatever. A-1 came up with a style and K-on stole it, so if A-1 used K-on's style (which they didn't) then they are basically stealing from their previous work anyway. Kyo ani are the ones who stole anything. The only reason people say this is because K-ON was more popular so they don't know about Kannagi.
But Kannagi lacks Yui!
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Originally Posted by chickdigger802: View Post
Moe pirates 19

The main plot about the missing ring was pretty silly and kinda half assed, and quality was down a bunch (derp faces galore), but still a fun fun eps.
From what I understand, episode 19 and beyond will be original anime content.

So expect more quality of this caliber.
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Originally Posted by Jexhius: View Post
But Kannagi lacks Yui!
And? If you think Kanata is a rip off of Yui you're just being sillier than you already are about this whole thing.
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Tsukuyomi Moonphase had a fun opening episode.
I also reallyl iked Last Exile's, and Haibane Renmei's.
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Kore wa Zombie 1

YES YES

This is too glorious
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Originally Posted by Jexhius: View Post
But Kannagi lacks Yui!
It's not the same kind of show. Besides it has Tsumugi in it.
Also, ZANGE-CHAN.
In many ways I like it better than K-on.
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kannagi = the gorgeous eps 1 and the awesome OP.


NOTHING ELSE EXISTS!
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[Sankarea] - 6



This shot is indicative of how far the appeal of this show has fallen from the opening. I don't feel any shame in dropping the show after this episode.

I had a number of problems with this episode and unfortunately there weren't just caused by the amateurish cinematography. Yet perhaps we should talk about that first, because the one aspect of the show that really got me (and, I think others here) hooked on the show was how strong the visual-storytelling was. The use of colour, the editing, the cinematography, the way shots were arranged next to each other to create meaning, the flow of the story and so forth. As you can see from above, the show now has trouble shooting three people all in the same scene without resorting to lining them all up in a row in the centre of the shot. Pathetic.

Of course, the tone of the story has changed quite a bit over the course of the first few episodes. Moving from a largely sombre series mixed with brevity to a strange fanservice show. This episode seems to be leaning back towards serious, but unfortunately they are trying to achieve that whilst also including dumb fanservice shit and other waciness.

One thing that really bothered me about this episode, and what I think is indicative of how shitty the writing has become is the sequence when he starts to videotape Rea for his 'zombie observation diary'. He really seems to enjoy videotaping certain aspects of her body, including her legs, in a fairly perverse manner. Rea is of course, embarrassed about being recorded but she's also fairly playful as well, shrugging it off to a certain extent. However, what she should be is incredibly creeped out and traumatised because Furuya, who she came to for protection and comfort, is now acting just like the father who has abused her. Of course, she doesn't respond that way at all. That's just shitty writing.
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Originally Posted by chickdigger802: View Post
kannagi = the gorgeous eps 1 and the awesome OP.


NOTHING ELSE EXISTS!
It's a Sony?

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I've already started a rewatch (well, to my shame I didn't watch every episode the first time), now's a good time for you to start too!
So it's a watch for you. :p
Maybe I'll watch the last OVA episode again. lol
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Originally Posted by firehawk12: View Post
It's a Sony?


So it's a watch for you. :p
Maybe I'll watch the last OVA episode again. lol
Well, it was like, a few episodes in the middle, that sort of counts as a watch. >_>
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Originally Posted by Jexhius: View Post
[Sankarea] - 6



This shot is indicative of how far the appeal of this show has fallen from the opening. I don't feel any shame in dropping the show after this episode.

I had a number of problems with this episode and unfortunately there weren't just caused by the amateurish cinematography. Yet perhaps we should talk about that first, because the one aspect of the show that really got me (and, I think others here) hooked on the show was how strong the visual-storytelling was. The use of colour, the editing, the cinematography, the way shots were arranged next to each other to create meaning, the flow of the story and so forth. As you can see from above, the show now has trouble shooting three people all in the same scene without resorting to lining them all up in a row in the centre of the shot. Pathetic.

Of course, the tone of the story has changed quite a bit over the course of the first few episodes. Moving from a largely sombre series mixed with brevity to a strange fanservice show. This episode seems to be leaning back towards serious, but unfortunately they are trying to achieve that whilst also including dumb fanservice shit and other waciness.

One thing that really bothered me about this episode, and what I think is indicative of how shitty the writing has become is the sequence when he starts to videotape Rea for his 'zombie observation diary'. He starts really seems to enjoy videotaping certain aspects of her body, including her legs, in a fairly perverse manner. Rea is of course, embarrassed but fairly playful about the whole thing. However, what she should be is incredibly creeped out and traumatised because Furuya, who she came to for protection and comfort, is now acting just like the father who has abused her. Of course, she doesn't respond that way at all. That's just shitty writing.
I dont think that's shitty writing. More like Stockholm syndrome. Its what she knows and accepts as reality. Why do you think girls who were sexually abused as kids sometimes become a prostitute? Thats what they are comfortable with because its how they experienced life. SO It is reasonable that she would be familiar with this sort of behavior by now and maybe even sympathetic towards it.
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Originally Posted by Envelope: View Post
And? If you think Kanata is a rip off of Yui you're just being sillier than you already are about this whole thing.
Just a couple of blobs:

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Originally Posted by Jexhius: View Post
Don't they all look like this now?

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Well, it was like, a few episodes in the middle, that sort of counts as a watch. >_>
Did you skip 7?!
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Originally Posted by Jexhius: View Post
Just a couple of blobs:

Holy shit her eye lid kind of almost looks similar to another generic eyelid design.
SUCH THIEVERY.
Except K-on is the one who stole in the first place, from an art design that really wasn't worth stealing (Kannagi's)
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Originally Posted by firehawk12: View Post
Don't they all look like this now?
Well, they all have the same face, so they have to have different hair styles!

Or, in some cases glasses and or weird eyebrows.
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lol

how did keion steal "A-1's style"
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Moeblob designs are serious business.
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Originally Posted by Jexhius: View Post
One thing that really bothered me about this episode, and what I think is indicative of how shitty the writing has become is the sequence when he starts to videotape Rea for his 'zombie observation diary'. He really seems to enjoy videotaping certain aspects of her body, including her legs, in a fairly perverse manner. Rea is of course, embarrassed about being recorded but she's also fairly playful as well, shrugging it off to a certain extent. However, what she should be is incredibly creeped out and traumatised because Furuya, who she came to for protection and comfort, is now acting just like the father who has abused her. Of course, she doesn't respond that way at all. That's just shitty writing.
There's actually nothing wrong with this. It would be a gradual thing because repeat abusees don't fully register the implications of someone's actions right after being given a safe haven.

And that's even before you consider the fact she's a zombie.
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Kuroko's Basketball 6


This is Japanese Lunch Time Rush was pretty funny for the first half. The actual game was fun though I would have wanted more of the offensive action with Kuroko and Kagami teaming up . Still they just need to get to the next game since games lacking generations of miracles may prove to pale in comparison to ones with them.

Poor Kuroko and his team laughing when Dad picked him up
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Originally Posted by Dresden: View Post
lol

how did keion steal "A-1's style"
the "chubby look" of the body design, plus the overall way the face/head is designed. But like I said its a subtle art style to begin with and not worth copying.
This reminds me of how anime started out by cribbing Disney animation ideas and then when Disney stole stuff from Kimba, people cried foul. Industry competition IS serious business.
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I don't even remember what Kannagi looked like. :/
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Originally Posted by trejo: View Post
I don't even remember what Kannagi looked like. :/
like K-on
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Originally Posted by Jexhius: View Post
Just a couple of blobs:

Oh no, they both have eyes and a mouth, they're totally the same!

Seriously, you're being so obtuse at this point I'm just going to drop this argument.

I know you aren't being serious, but I was trying to be serious. :( How can I be serious when no one takes my arguments seriously though. :( Seriously, it's no fun.


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This episode really ruined all my good will garnered from ep 11.
Stupid luffy antics, they made Zoro really dumb :(, Nami is really annoying, Ussop is a dumbass...
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Originally Posted by PdotMichael: View Post
like K-on
Of course.
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You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
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Originally Posted by pizzaroll: View Post
You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
shame? On an animu board?
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Originally Posted by cajunator: View Post
shame? On an animu board?
Yes.
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Kannagi > K-On!
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Originally Posted by Dedication Through Light: View Post
Kuroko's Basketball 6


This is Japanese Lunch Time Rush was pretty funny for the first half. The actual game was fun though I would have wanted more of the offensive action with Kuroko and Kagami teaming up . Still they just need to get to the next game since games lacking generations of miracles may prove to pale in comparison to ones with them.

Poor Kuroko and his team laughing when Dad picked him up
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Indeed it does seem like Ginga, these folks know where to put their 'limited' budget. Decent animation of plays.

And the soundtrack is surprisingly great. DEM DROPS.
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Speaking of Kannagi, is that worth watching?

I've been looking for a decent anime to scratch that RomCom itch.
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Fate Zero 19

We see more of the backstory of Kerrytugu.

Being raised by the assassin Natalia, he's had a messed up life. She has become not unlike a mother to him, only not really. More like a close teacher.
When Natalia hijacked that plane to get that weird mage guy, it was definitely too easy.
Knew something was going to happen. why Kerry, why?
But of course you can't land a plane full of zombies without repercussions. Kerry did what he had to do.
These past couple of episodes have actually made me sympathetic towards Kuritsugu and they explain pretty well why he's so fucked up. This show keeps delivering.


Originally Posted by moonspeak: View Post
Speaking of Kannagi, is that worth watching?

I've been looking for a decent anime to scratch that RomCom itch.
I think its a pretty decent little show, but its yet another example of why you dont want to be friendzone girl.
The animation is pretty good overall but its really nothing special. A cute harem romcom that doesnt go overboard. I just get mad when people overlook A-1's style and just assume that K-on invented that particular moeblob look.
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Kuroko's Basketball 6

The Japanese Lunch Rush was funny, especially when they tried to crowd surf.
Second part looked a little bit lazy initially, but it was good overall. Seeing Kuroko annoyed is nice, though his expression didn't change much.
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Tsuritama 5 - Lovely episode this week, great sense of mood and some much-needed character development on part of Yuki. That said, the pacing is feeling a little problematic at this point, 5-episodes in and it still feels like it's in the awkward set-up phrase of the story, previous Nakamura shows didn't really have this problem as Trapeze was episodic and Mononoke had 2-3 episode arcs. Maybe he isn't that experienced in pacing series-long narratives, as [C] somewhat had this same problem, although unlike [C] the atmosphere and art direction is strong enough to drive this kind of deliberate pacing.

Also I just noticed the fishing store in this show is called "Hemingway" man it would be pretty epic if this was basically the anime version of the "Old man and the sea" in fact both works are pretty similar anyway; in that they manage to portray a mundane activity like fishing in a engaging way!

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Speaking of Kannagi, is that worth watching?

I've been looking for a decent anime to scratch that RomCom itch.
It's worth watching for the two "good" episodes of the series.
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Originally Posted by moonspeak: View Post
Speaking of Kannagi, is that worth watching?

I've been looking for a decent anime to scratch that RomCom itch.
it is decent and unoffensive.

But not really memorable at all I guess.

Characters are nice and blobby though.
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What in the world is "A-1 style"? A-1 doesn't have a style; it all depends on the staff working on that particular project, since they don't have a strong internal culture.

Kannagi was directed by a KyoAni reject anyway.
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Originally Posted by moonspeak: View Post
Speaking of Kannagi, is that worth watching?

I've been looking for a decent anime to scratch that RomCom itch.
If you're looking for a "decent" anime, then Kannagi might be worth looking into. It's not a remarkable show, though.