[Femmeworth]

Eden of the East TV was a pretty fun if inconsistent scifi modern love story which tackled various social themes which exist in our world today. It's a good thing the director didn't have some stupid idea after that to make movies which continued the story after that point. It would probably have turned out really badly if he did! :)

I'll take that as confirmation to not watch the hypothetical movies if I ever finish the series.

[duckroll]

I'll take that as confirmation to not watch the hypothetical movies if I ever finish the series.

I don't tell people what to watch or not watch, I only state my observations! :)

[Regulus Tera]

Dude I never miss Skies of Love or the ending. Just hear those strings, I don't care if the visuals are cheesy.

You are a bad anime fan Jexhius.

[cajunator]

Perhaps its finally time for me to watch this show.

Uhh...yes. I cant believe you havent seen it yet!

I never watch ED's anyway. It seems rather pointless.

omg. OMG.
So many greaT ED's. :(

[Ultimadrago]

not even this masterpiece?

There are exceptions to virtually anything.

[Branduil]

Well, at least in the original Gundam, that was the point. It was supposed to be the pride and joy of the Federation, and a morale booster of sorts for all units. Kinda like Captain America. It wasn't meant to be a stealth unit.

Indeed, you must watch Brain Powerd if you want Tactical Mechespionage Action.

[Regulus Tera]

not even this masterpiece?

Yakitate!! Japan wins the bread anime competition again.

[Jexhius]

I feel very conflicted about how anime historians will view Yoshiyuki Tomino, and the same goes for my personal opinions about him.[...] Common complaints I hear about Tomino revolve around his tendency to create annoying, bratty characters that steal the spotlight and waste precious time with arcs and overall development of the plot and character relationships; issues with pacing, usually because he skips over details, goes too fast, etc.; and, finally, he makes odd choices like killing off characters in droves and a lack of meaningful discrimination (Zeta).[...] The real problem with me talking about Tomino is that I haven't watched as much of his catalog to track his development as a director, let alone a storyboarder. What does Anime-GAF think of the dood?

Tomino is an important historical figure and a creative ideas man but I really don't think he even understands the basics of scrip writing, directing, storyboarding etc. He appears to be incompetent in every area, as masterpieces such as Garzey's Wing demonstrate. Garzey's Wing was directed, scripted and storyboarded by Tomino and it's absolutely terrible in all of those areas.

Yet, his works are really dull or boring because there's usually too much going on in them, largely because Tomino doesn't have a grasp of concepts like tone or pacing.

As duckroll mentioned above, he needs to work through some kind of filter, ideally a team who know how to use his ideas well.

[cajunator]

Yakitate!! Japan wins the bread anime competition again.

OHHHH FUUUUUUUUUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!
This was an amazing ED. I must have watched it a million times watching the show.

[dakkumauji]

Yakitate!! Japan wins the bread anime competition again.

I really gotta watch this one day. I been enjoying the manga at the very least.

[tiff]

Yakitate!! Japan wins the bread anime competition again.

i can't stop watching

[Jexhius]

You'd miss out on some real gems that way.

Oh, they certainly exist, it's just that they're much rarer than good OP's, in my experience. Presumably because most studio's front-load the OP's with animation and other exciting stuff because everyone will be seeing it at the start of the show.

[cajunator]

Oh, they certainly exist, it's just that they're much rarer than good OP's, in my experience. Presumably because most studio's front-load the OP's with animation and other exciting stuff because everyone will be seeing it at the start of the show.

While thats true, the Ed is oftentimes a good cool-down session or else a hyper-cute hnng-producer. Both of which I am interested in by the end of an anime.

[cosmicblizzard]

I really gotta watch this one day. I been enjoying the manga at the very least.

For better or worse, both the manga and anime become completely incoherent by the end, and not in the "lol, I don't understand this plot point" sense. It's pretty glorious.

[Jexhius]

Oh, and I am reminded that Un-Go's ED and OP feature stuff that isn't even in the main series at all and only appear in the movie released afterwards. What an amazing show.

[Regulus Tera]

For better or worse, both the manga and anime become completely incoherent by the end, and not in the "lol, I don't understand this plot point" sense. It's pretty glorious.

The moment it stops being pseudo-educational and starts focusing on the bread puns is when it all goes to shit.

So about when the tournament arc starts.

[duckroll]

Oh, they certainly exist, it's just that they're much rarer than good OP's, in my experience. Presumably because most studio's front-load the OP's with animation and other exciting stuff because everyone will be seeing it at the start of the show.

I'm not sure if this is entirely true though. There are lots of great EDs, and I don't necessarily think that having more animation or more "exciting stuff" qualifies for a better OP or ED. OPs are meant to get you pumped for an episode, and EDs are meant to help you wind down after. Being slower paced and having less active animation doesn't mean it is automatically less likely to be well directed or interesting.

Norimitsu Suzuki is an animator who specializes in directing, storyboarding, and animating EDs. He has worked on tons of really creative sequences on a huge variety of different shows. Considering how one person can basically make a living off just creating good EDs, I think this negates the theory that EDs are generally bad. I personally find that most of the time, a show with a really solid OP tends to also have a really solid ED.

The same faulty argument can be made that OPs are actually worse because they generally all feel the same because of expected templates, while EDs are more interesting because there's less expectation to restrict the creativity in the sequence.

[Articalys]

Interesting trivia: One Piece stopped having endings songs almost six years ago to make room for longer openings.

[Regulus Tera]

I'm not sure if this is entirely true though. There are lots of great EDs, and I don't necessarily think that having more animation or more "exciting stuff" qualifies for a better OP or ED. OPs are meant to get you pumped for an episode, and EDs are meant to help you wind down after. Being slower paced and having less active animation doesn't mean it is automatically less likely to be well directed or interesting.

I get the impression they switched the OP and the ED around in Eureka Seven AO somehow.

[Branduil]

Oh, they certainly exist, it's just that they're much rarer than good OP's, in my experience. Presumably because most studio's front-load the OP's with animation and other exciting stuff because everyone will be seeing it at the start of the show.

I wonder if being at the beginning or the end really matters that much, though. I mean making it the ED didn't make this any less ridiculously popular.

[duckroll]

Inter sting trivia: One Piece stopped having endings songs almost six years ago to make room for longer openings.

Saint Seiya Omega also lacks and ED, but at least they don't waste the extra run time on a longer OP - they just have more time for each episode!

[cosmicblizzard]

The moment it stops being pseudo-educational and starts focusing on the bread puns is when it all goes to shit. So about when the tournament arc starts.

So... the whole series?

I personally loved it until the end of the Monaco Cup arc. At that point, it still at least partially cared about plot consistency and the ending was heartwarming as fuck. The craziest thing that happened up to that point was time travel. After that, it was shit like people turning into bears and Dhalsim.

[Femmeworth]

I get the impression they switched the OP and the ED around in Eureka Seven AO somehow.

Eh? All of the EDs are pretty low key compared to the OPs.

Edit: Silly me, I didn't notice the AO.

[duckroll]

But AO's ED sucks. It doesn't compare to the OP in terms of direction, scope, or animation.

[Regulus Tera]

So... the whole series? I personally loved it until the end of the Monaco Cup arc. At that point, it still at least partially cared about plot consistency and the ending was heartwarming as fuck. The craziest thing that happened up to that point was time travel. After that, it was shit like people turning into bears and Dhalsim.

It was like before that they still tried to keep the focus on the bread-making. There's a little piece where the main dude teaches a kid how to bake bread in a rice steamer and I totally loved that.

Then the clowns started being able to clone themselves. :(

But AO's ED sucks. It doesn't compare to the OP in terms of direction, scope, or animation.

But the song pumps me up for the episode when the OP sounds like the most boring shit ever!

[Dragoon En Regalia]

Michiko to Hatchin has this beautiful ED that's simply ruined by the music chosen for it. Masaaki Yuasa deserved better than that—he deserved more SOIL & PIMP SESSIONS.

[Articalys]

Saint Seiya Omega also lacks and ED, but at least they don't waste the extra run time on a longer OP - they just have more time for each episode!

Both Toei shounen, but Toriko has endings right now.

[duckroll]

But the song pumps me up for the episode when the OP sounds like the most boring shit ever!

I don't think anyone here is talking about music.

[Brazil]

Saint Seiya Heaven Chapter: Overture This movie pretty much exemplifies why the Saint Seiya canon is such a mess. For someone like me who has no knowledge of the manga, I can only assume this was a very loose and definitely incomplete adaptation of the events following the war with Hades. Many seemingly important plot points were left vague or not touched on at all. I imagine they were rushing through the source material because the breakneck pacing gave me no incentive to really care about Artemis or Pit Icarus (outside the fact he's Marin's brother which seems REALLY friggin important). As a production itself, I guess it at least looks better than most of the animated franchise. I mean the animation was fine even if the few fights weren't that visually impressive. Art was pretty good too, though I think I prefer the more vibrant style of Lost Canvas. There were a few scenes where it was just too damn dark. Had no idea what was happening. I also fell asleep during this halfway through (probably from being tired, but I imagine boredom played a part). If you're gonna put a lot of talking in your movie, give us some damn context! I doubt even the manga readers wanted to see the dialogue recreated over the actual battles, which there just weren't enough of. Oh, and also don't end it in the middle of a climactic fight against what was probably the most powerful antagonist in the series. Seriously, what the fuck?

As a huge Saint Seiya fan, I can assure you: this film doesn't make any sense. Even to me. It's freaking bizarre.

It was supposed to be the start of some new arc, though, so that's why it ends so abruptly.

[Defuser]

Given the right music(with a decent animation), a ED can be better than a OP.

[cosmicblizzard]

It was like before that they still tried to keep the focus on the bread-making. There's a little piece where the main dude teaches a kid how to bake bread in a rice steamer and I totally loved that. Then the clowns started being able to clone themselves. :( But the song pumps me up for the episode when the OP sounds like the most boring shit ever!

It was still educational all through the Monaco Cup arc though. The microwave used when only having eggs comes to mind.

[duckroll]

Both Toei, but Toriko has endings right now.

They probably didn't have the budget for a full CG ED featuring the characters training.

[Regulus Tera]

Toei shounen thing?

The mahou shoujo shows get all the ED budget:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hXeDYmWV90
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4GMWTEV5So

I don't think anyone here is talking about music.

:( Ok.

It was still educational all through the Monaco Cup arc though. The microwave used when only having eggs comes to mind.

Was that only in the manga? I don't remember that in the animu.

[hosannainexcelsis]

Michiko to Hatchin has this beautiful ED that's simply ruined by the music chosen for it. Masaaki Yuasa deserved better than that—he deserved more SOIL & PIMP SESSIONS.

Eh, I think the urban style of the ED song matches the graffiti visuals.

I don't think anyone here is talking about music.

I try to judge OPs and EDs by how the music and visuals work together, though ultimately the quality of the direction is more important than the quality of the song by itself.

[cosmicblizzard]

They probably didn't have the budget for a full CG ED featuring the characters training.

They also don't have the budget to change the damn thing after nearly 60 episodes.

Was that only in the manga? I don't remember that in the animu.

I didn't even read the parts of the manga that covered the Monaco Cup. It was definitely in the anime. It was the preliminaries.

[cajunator]

Every now and then a masterpiece like this comes along.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqTdSpvT_cI

[dakkumauji]

I didn't even read the parts of the manga that covered the Monaco Cup. It was definitely in the anime. It was the preliminaries.

Also in the manga as well. It was the roulette part of the preliminaries.

[Ultimadrago]

Hidamari Sketch 5

Bloody ghost sickness

Yuno is sick, apparently, you recieve a red aura to indicate this in the Hidamari world. She goes back for some rest which leads up to an odd dream sequence. I won't spoil it, but includes Brutus, a bag of flour and a disgruntled principal.

Settings aren't "impressive" by any means, they're definitely "Hidamari", though

It takes on a dream-like narrative. With elements being brought up out of order and Yuno recalling certain ones into the "reality" of her dream rather than using the logic of reality. For example, wondering if her teacher was hiding in a book locker. It's a different feel than what I've seen before from Hidamari Sketch, even changes pace a bit.

After that Miya comes in to check on Yuno and strip her to put on some new clothes! :firehawk Some harmless girlfriend action.

This followed by more acid trip dreaming and some texts from friends. Blah Blah, they come over with medicine and junk food to hang and Miya does her best Principal impression. Got the right amount of shaky in it as well.

Burnout

I'm not sure why my "impressions" always feel more like summaries for this show, less so for a number of others. It could be because of it's stature and organization as a "slice-of-life". Anyhow, strange(?) episode, yet anything different for this series is usually welcome by myself. Though regardless of the difference in visual aesthetic and tone for the first half of the episode, it still comes around to the girls looking out for one another, being friends, ya know, what the series usually stands for.

[Branduil]

I don't think anyone here is talking about music.

We should, then we could talk about stuff like this.

[Femmeworth]

Given the right music(with a decent animation), a ED can be better than a OP.

Indeed. Eureka Seven's third ED is better than the corresponding OP.

[Ezalc]

Eureka 7 AO's OP sounds like the english song from Kiki's Delivery Service.

[Brazil]

We should, then we could talk about stuff like this.

Oh God.

The 45-minute cycle ends, and still I cannot find my socks My detergent cruelly mocks me AHAHAHAHAHAAA! Spinning in the darkness, LOAD THIS DRYER, my meido is on vacation so I must fold my own pants In this crowded laundromat, LAUNDRY PLAYER, some bastard has stolen my hamper Sorting in the darkness, LOAD THIS DRYER, now where was my nice pair of khakis? A forbidden water temperature, LOAD THIS DRYER, SACRIFICE A SHEET TO GAWD!

Bwahahaha.

[Ultimadrago]

Every now and then a masterpiece like this comes along. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqTdSpvT_cI

:lol

I didn't know what to expect.

[hosannainexcelsis]

We should, then we could talk about stuff like this.

OH DESIRE~

[Regulus Tera]

We should, then we could talk about stuff like this.

Well now I'm never checking Umineko. :I

[Chet Rippo]

Highshcool DxD has the best ED, and I haven't even seen the show.

[hosannainexcelsis]

Well now I'm never checking Umineko. :I

You shouldn't watch the anime anyway.

[Branduil]

One of my least favorite EDs of all time is the one for Escaflowne. It's just completely dissonant from the rest of the show. Plus the song is awful. I always race to press stop before that terrible beat starts, lol.

[InfiniteNine]

Well now I'm never checking Umineko. :I

The anime version sucks anyways.

[wonzo]

Every now and then a masterpiece like this comes along. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqTdSpvT_cI

whoa

Well now I'm never checking Umineko. :I

the ed's literally the only thing from the Umineko anime worth watching