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Originally Posted by Navidson REC: View Post
Haven't played Reach on an HDTV for a while (college, yay), but I'm preeetty sure that's a bullshot as far as the models go.

Not gonna disagree that Reach looked fantastic already though. I'm expecting a much cleaner, clearer, and sharper image with Halo 4 though, what with native 720p and FXAA. And Halo 4's lighting is on a whole other level.
Halo 4 looks amazing, but it will look worse than Reach in certain areas, just like Reach looked worse than Halo 3 in some areas, but overall blew it away.



No matter what magic they work, Halo 4 is still running on 2005 harware.

The Spartan models he posted are not bullshots as far as models, they are theater mode shots. Only difference is Resolution and AA. The models and textures in Reach are pretty amazing.
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Originally Posted by Vire: View Post
Man... we went from the height of its design in Reach to a Gears of War reject Wretch.

Not feeling this at all.
Same camp. I did like the Halo 2 one a lot too (as well as the original), but yeah, they went all borg on this guy. I am trying not to be disappointed that Bungie isnt handling it, but its hard not to be.
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Originally Posted by Majanew: View Post
It does. Look at his hands. Dead giveaway. Not to mention the effect on the blue and gray of the armor. The lighting even darkened the yellow stripe on the gun.
That looks distinctly like 2 sets of different colored armors. I can't see any way a light source would change colors in that manner. I'm willing to bet you can customize different colors of the underarmor and separate parts of the armor.

Anyway, we'll see.
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Those Grunts look fucking weird.
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Originally Posted by GhaleonEB: View Post
Curious about the lack of breathing mask for the Grunts.

Love it otherwise, the visuals are detailed and clean. Cortana's new look is nice.
Ditto. My first reaction to the Grunts was that the head didn't look like previous Grunts at all. It's far wider and rounder. However, I think they definitely look more menacing. The lack of a mask doesn't really concern me, there's a tube going into its nose which could supply the methane they need.

The Elites look great. Sure, their skin has changed and the thing I dislike the most is that they aren't wearing any armor on their arms, which doesn't sound like something a warrior race would do, but they look very detailed.

Cortana looks great to me, but I'm worried the face won't match the voice now.

*Edit*

I want to see Halo 4's water. My guess is that it wasn't a focus, since it was already pretty amazing in Halo 3 and Reach but I'm interested to see it with Halo 4's lighting system.
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what did they do to my grunts? and as if that wasn't enough they had to mess up cortana too.
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#307

Slapping my meat around pretty hard to this here set of screenshots. Are the blue and red elites opponents or something? Not enemies of Master Chief, but of each other.
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Originally Posted by Kaako: View Post
They should have made Cortana thicker.
Mhmmmmmmmmm

Dem thighs. Dat ass. Dat tummy.

I think she looks great. MC's design is slowly growing on me. The Covenant look grotesque and hideous, as violent, hostile aliens should.
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Originally Posted by Aaron: View Post
What kind of magic are they using to get that out of seven year old hardware?
Are you implying the earlier halo's taxed the hardware and blew your mind in terms of textures? There is a game called Gears of War, I heard it loooked pretty good and was fun too. Maybe you should check it out.
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um, jaw not dropping but I kind of dig cortana

Originally Posted by snoopeasystreet: View Post
The grunts look a bit like wretches from gears of war.
can't unsee
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Originally Posted by staticneuron: View Post
Are you implying the earlier halo's taxed the hardware and blew your mind in terms of textures? There is a game called Gears of War, I heard it loooked pretty good and was fun too. Maybe you should check it out.
Ya Gears3 especially. The game looks amazing.
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Originally Posted by staticneuron: View Post
Are you implying the earlier halo's taxed the hardware and blew your mind in terms of textures? There is a game called Gears of War, I heard it loooked pretty good and was fun too. Maybe you should check it out.
Halo 3 ODST and Reach had better textures than seen in Gears 1-2, and even a good portion of Gears 3 textures...
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I can't believe they're getting this out of 7 year old hardware. 343 are gods.
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Originally Posted by ProXimity: View Post
Slapping my meat around pretty hard to this here set of screenshots.
I just spit out my Sierra Mist. I laughed harder than I should.
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Originally Posted by -PXG-: View Post
Mhmmmmmmmmm

Dem thighs. Dat ass. Dat tummy.

I think she looks great. MC's design is slowly growing on me. The Covenant look grotesque and hideous, as violent, hostile aliens should.
No no no.

Halo has never been about grittiness. If you want that go play another game.

Halo is about the melding of beautiful natural landscapes and pristine futuristic architecture. These characters don't fit in this universe.

The Grunt looks like a retarded brother of a Wretch and the Elite looks like the enemies from Resistance...
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If only the game itself would look that good. :/
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cortana: Hello chief!
MChief: cyber?
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Originally Posted by Vire: View Post
No no no.

Halo has never been about grittiness. If you want that go play another game.

Halo is about the melding of beautiful natural landscapes and pristine futuristic architecture. These characters don't fit in this universe.

The Grunt looks like a retarded brother of a Wretch and the Elite looks like the enemies from Resistance...
Great to see that Halo fans still prefer an artstyle created over 10 years ago, and which was designed to take advantage of limited hardware capabilities.

343 shouldn't be shackled by what Halo looked like in 2001 when designing a 2012 game.
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Originally Posted by Jack Scofield: View Post
Great to see that Halo fans still prefer an artstyle created over 10 years ago, and which was designed to take advantage of limited hardware capabilities.

343 shouldn't be shackled by what Halo looked like in 2001 when designing a 2012 game.
Did you even read my previous post? I said I liked the Reach design the best. I'm not basing it on a 2001 design.



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Originally Posted by BigTnaples: View Post
Halo 4 looks amazing, but it will look worse than Reach in certain areas, just like Reach looked worse than Halo 3 in some areas, but overall blew it away.



No matter what magic they work, Halo 4 is still running on 2005 harware.

The Spartan models he posted are not bullshots as far as models, they are theater mode shots. Only difference is Resolution and AA. The models and textures in Reach are pretty amazing.
You mean like every other game ever made? You don't say?
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Relax, the Covenant we've seen so far are rogue/wanderers. Not fully functional, elite squads straight from Covie military. They're supposed to look "rag-tag".

The Elites looking fucking menacing, as they should.
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Originally Posted by charsace: View Post
You mean like every other game ever made? You don't say?
I wouldn't have said it if some people weren't having a hard time with the concept....

And no, not every game ever made, just every game made on the same dated hardware, making compromise a necessity.
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Originally Posted by Falagard: View Post
Ditto. My first reaction to the Grunts was that the head didn't look like previous Grunts at all. It's far wider and rounder. However, I think they definitely look more menacing. The lack of a mask doesn't really concern me, there's a tube going into its nose which could supply the methane they need.

The Elites look great. Sure, their skin has changed and the thing I dislike the most is that they aren't wearing any armor on their arms, which doesn't sound like something a warrior race would do, but they look very detailed.

Cortana looks great to me, but I'm worried the face won't match the voice now.

*Edit*

I want to see Halo 4's water. My guess is that it wasn't a focus, since it was already pretty amazing in Halo 3 and Reach but I'm interested to see it with Halo 4's lighting system.
Apparently there are Grunts in the GI issue with the normal breathing mask, not just the tubes. I keep coming back to look at the face on them, and after an initial adjustment I'm liking it a lot - as you said, it's quite menacing. They're walking a very fine line as they refresh the returning characters with new designs, revitalizing them while keeping their signature features. I've been impressed so far.
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Guess I am the only one liking the grunts. They don't look that much different to me. Really gnarly looking bastards.
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Originally Posted by derFeef: View Post
Guess I am the only one liking the grunts. They don't look that much different to me. Really gnarly looking bastards.
You're not the only one. They look great.
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The new grunts, it's as if they have evolved, for combat. halo combat. combat that is evolved.
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Originally Posted by derFeef: View Post
Guess I am the only one liking the grunts. They don't look that much different to me. Really gnarly looking bastards.
Yeah, they honestly look pretty much the same to me. Just different armor.
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Originally Posted by Deadly Cyclone: View Post
Is that a Halo 3 model? The low poly characters really stood out in Halo 3 and I remember being very distracted with it during gameplay - especially the second level when you're in that tunnel with your teammates.

These Halo 4 shots are VERY promising and definitely a step in the right direction IMO.
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Man, am I the only one who wishes the next trilogy did not involve the covenant in a major way? At least not for the first game...
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So good.
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this does kinda highlight how technically behind bungie are graphically.
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Originally Posted by guek: View Post
Man, am I the only one who wishes the next trilogy did not involve the covenant in a major way? At least not for the first game...
You ain't the only one.......
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Originally Posted by gaming_noob: View Post
Is that a Halo 3 model? The low poly characters really stood out in Halo 3 and I remember being very distracted with it during gameplay - especially the second level when you're in that tunnel with your teammates.

These Halo 4 shots are VERY promising and definitely a step in the right direction IMO.
That's Halo 2 if I remember right. Where you're playing as Arby storming the floating fortress.

Originally Posted by Nemesis121: View Post
You ain't the only one.......


343 has said the Covenant is not the main enemy, so I bet we don't see them a ton.
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Originally Posted by gaming_noob: View Post
Is that a Halo 3 model? The low poly characters really stood out in Halo 3 and I remember being very distracted with it during gameplay - especially the second level when you're in that tunnel with your teammates.

These Halo 4 shots are VERY promising and definitely a step in the right direction IMO.
Lol no.

Those are halo 2 models.

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Originally Posted by gaming_noob: View Post
Is that a Halo 3 model? The low poly characters really stood out in Halo 3 and I remember being very distracted with it during gameplay - especially the second level when you're in that tunnel with your teammates.

These Halo 4 shots are VERY promising and definitely a step in the right direction IMO.
Nope. That's Halo 2 Heretic Grunt.
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Originally Posted by Deadly Cyclone: View Post
343 has said the Covenant is not the main enemy, so I bet we don't see them a ton.
I hope so.

No flood either kthxbye
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Originally Posted by Chinner: View Post
this does kinda highlight how technically behind bungie are graphically.
oh no you din't
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Originally Posted by guek: View Post
I hope so.

No flood either kthxbye
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Is that...confirmation that the flood is not in Halo 4? Wow. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice: View Post
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Best Halo ever CONFIRMED
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yay, no flood!
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Originally Posted by Deadly Cyclone: View Post
Is that...confirmation that the flood is not in Halo 4? Wow. Interesting.
They already said we would not be fighting the flood last week.
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No popcorn shrimp? =(
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Originally Posted by BigTnaples: View Post
They already said we would not be fighting the flood last week.
Not be fighting them, sure, but I figured they'd be in the game somehow with all the Gravemind stuff.
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Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC: View Post
Best Halo ever CONFIRMED
I'm a huge fan of ODST too.
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Originally Posted by Dax01: View Post
I'm a huge fan of ODST too.
Best Halo OST ever, at least
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice: View Post
Achieved.
SNAP
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Originally Posted by OuterWorldVoice: View Post
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hngBzDDyFE
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Originally Posted by Chinner: View Post
this does kinda highlight how technically behind bungie are graphically.
Yeah, Reach's graphics are soooo 2010.