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If you stop seeing my posts, you can probably guess why
(04-20-2012, 08:07 PM)
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#101
I wonder what the "correct" answers are.
I'd personally answer A to both. The hare didn't exctly do anything too wise, but two of the other options are idiots and there was no owl. And the animals seem to have eaten the pineapple because they were ashamed for believing in it. Though "annoyed" is a weird description of that, so I might be thinking about this wrong. I'd be livid if I were a parent with a kid going to a school where this was given. |
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card-carrying scientician
(04-20-2012, 08:08 PM)
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#102
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(04-20-2012, 08:09 PM)
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#103
Except the moose was too dumb to know "Up his sleeve" is a turn of phrase. Fuck this story is stupid.
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(04-20-2012, 08:10 PM)
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#104
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(04-20-2012, 08:11 PM)
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#105
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(04-20-2012, 08:15 PM)
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(04-20-2012, 08:15 PM)
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#109
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(04-20-2012, 08:16 PM)
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#110
The story doesn't explicitly state they wanted to eat the pineapple. Perhaps they did it because their religion, imposed upon them by the evil raccoons who rule this forest, compells them to ritually slaughter and eat a pineapple on Thursdays, and this happened to be Thursday. This ritual fills the animals with great sorrow, because it means a death of one their friends amongst the pineapples, because it is barbaric, and because it is a reminder of the cruel whims of their raccoon overlords; they certainly do not want to do it.
You could say that the story doesn't say anything about that, which is true, but it also says nothing about them wanting to do it. It simply says it happened. |
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(04-20-2012, 08:17 PM)
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#111
The contest of the least foolish is between the moose and the hare. Is the moose displaying wit? Or is he dumb? The crow, does say: oh you know what I mean, thus, I'm inclined to think, the moose is witty. Otherwise, the hare, is the least foolish. |
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(04-20-2012, 08:17 PM)
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#112
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(04-20-2012, 08:19 PM)
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#113
Not at all true. There's nothing in the story to say they wanted to; the motivations you list are from the answers to the multiple choice questions exterior to the story.
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(04-20-2012, 08:20 PM)
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#117
I think this is a good question. This thread if anything proves people don't know about Litrary Nonsense, even though there are very popular works of such creation. |
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(04-20-2012, 08:29 PM)
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#120
In terms of logical steps, it would go something as follows: annoyance -> desire to exact revenge by inflicting pain or murder (want) -> eat amusement -> might be tasty! (want) -> eat hungry -> want to fill stomach (want) -> eat I suppose the want step could be removed if we knew the exact reason why they wanted to eat the pineapple. However, in this case, we don't. In all of the above cases, "want" is the step immediately before "eat", so it seems like more of a valid answer to the simple question: "Why did they eat it?" than any of the others. |
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(04-20-2012, 08:30 PM)
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#121
a. they were annoyed - The animals never exhibit any signs of annoyance. In fact, they were cheering with excitement over their idea to "FOIL THE PLAN!" They realized how dumb they were, but they never elaborated on this, so they never said how they FELT about "feeling dumb". So you can't infer annoyance (as that's outside the scope of the text). b. they were amused - Amusement is never suggested. Again, after they realized how dumb they were, the other animals were not mentioned (until the feast). You aren't given any clues as to how they felt. c. they were hungry - This would be the ONLY other answer I could see being argued, but there's no major clues to suggest this outside of the fact that the hare finished "a few hours later". One could suggest that they would have been hungry after a few hours, but nothing is presented about hunger of ANY sorts. d. they wanted to - In line with my other arguments, nothing is suggested about this. But given that the line is simply put forth and stated so matter-of-factly, it's the only one I can see making sense. Without ANY other information, you can't infer A, B, or C. You're still [sort of] being asked to look outside the scope of the story by answering D, but only in that the other answers aren't able to be supported by facts. D is also the most vague and most "all-inclusive" answer. |
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(04-20-2012, 08:30 PM)
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#122
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(04-20-2012, 08:38 PM)
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#123
They ate the pineapple because they were annoyed. While D) could be correct it doesn't test reading comprehension in anyway, therefor we can assume it is the incorrect answer.
Similarly although the owl is the wisest for not showing up, this isn't explained by the story therefor A) is the correct answer as the Hare won both a ninja and toothpaste. |
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(04-20-2012, 08:40 PM)
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#124
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(04-20-2012, 08:45 PM)
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#125
I have heard reading comprehension being likened to a baseball pitcher ( the author ) and the catcher ( the reader ). You can't fault the catcher for missing the pitch ( story ) if it's a crappy throw by the pitcher.
This is clearly a crappy throw by the pitcher. |
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(04-20-2012, 09:02 PM)
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#126
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(04-20-2012, 09:04 PM)
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#127
I dunno. It isn't necessary that they want to eat the pineapple for those other reasons. For example, if I'm stuck on a frozen mountain top, I may resort to cannibalism, but I don't want to. Or if I'm sick - I don't want to eat, but I have to anyway. Or they could eat because they found amusement in spite, but didn't want to.... Maybe if it said "going to eat".... but it would be pretty tortuous to say want to = going to.
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(04-20-2012, 09:06 PM)
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#128
1)D
2)B Since no specific answer was given or inferred to why the animals ate the pineapple, the only answer that makes sense is the most general one. For the wisest animal, it has to be the moose because he made a true observation of the pineapple and took no action beyond that. |
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(04-20-2012, 09:17 PM)
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#129
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(04-20-2012, 09:23 PM)
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#130
And then, lured by the promise of ninja and toothpaste, agreed when it proposed a contest. The moose on the other hand is no worse than idiomatically incapable. Why am i writing about thissssssss |
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(04-20-2012, 09:26 PM)
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#131
The best thing about this thread is we can just throw our hands in the air and call it stupid when we're tired of talking about it. The best kind of debate, IMO, one without any real stakes.
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(04-20-2012, 09:30 PM)
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#132
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(04-20-2012, 09:33 PM)
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#136
I'm curious to know what some of the other questions were. Because I'm starting to think this hare/pineapple story is quite brilliant. |
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(04-20-2012, 10:01 PM)
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(04-20-2012, 11:00 PM)
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#140
This whole discussion is silly, because it's an inexcusably awful question, but I have to say "(a) because they were annoyed" and "(a) the hare".
I can't really argue with people being hyper-literal and answering "because they wanted to," but it honestly feels like a joke answer that's not even meant to be considered. It's basically "Nah, I'm not gonna answer the question." The abruptness of the final line suggests to me that it's meant to be a punchline linked to their (vaguely implied) annoyance at having been duped. As for the second question, it's got to be either the crow or the hare. The crow is certainly not dumb to suspect foul play. Something did smell fishy about it. But the solution is pretty dumb. Cheer for him? How could that possibly foil any plot? Also, he's wrong and the pineapple just sits there. So I go with hare because, even if he doesn't display any immense wisdom, he at least doesn't do anything that a wise person wouldn't do. As Jennings said, the moose is a dumb-ass played for laughs and the owl is non-existent. |
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(04-20-2012, 11:52 PM)
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#141
I certainly find the different interpretations interesting. When I read it, I simply can't imagine the animals being annoyed in the slightest at the end of that story. If anything they may were probably embarrassed at themselves for how they acted. I wonder if the different interpretations are a reflection of our personalities.
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(04-21-2012, 12:17 AM)
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#143
I didn't read the story. |
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Count of Concision
(04-21-2012, 12:19 AM)
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I would also like to say that this story was PAINFUL to read, almost to the point of it being incoherent. No logical structure, flow, and even the writing itself was very poor to say the least. How did this get past QA? Jeez... |
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(04-21-2012, 12:26 AM)
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#147
I vote moose for smartest character, he's clearly making an asshole quip. The crow tried to be smart but was way off. |
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(04-21-2012, 12:41 AM)
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#150
Why the hell is anyone saying the moose? He not only doesn't understand common phrases, but bet on the pineapple anyway.
The rabbit is the only option, even if the story doesn't make him seem smart either. Actually, it's probably a trick question. The owl is the smartest for not being involved in this dumbass story. |