[Smiley90]

At this point, with the Beta less than a week away, tinkering around with skill tools feels like a looking at porn a week before your girlfriend gets back in town....after 5 years.

Bad analogy, if you're girlfriend was really gone for 5 years you'd be looking at porn every day anyway. It'd be more like STOPPING to watch porn before she gets back.

[Khold]

Will be constantly checking my email for that client download link

[Arol]

Looking at those sites;

How are you guys going to specialize your traits? Is it going to be better to focus on 2 lines or try to get a more balance going on among more lines?

[Hawkian]

Looking at those sites; How are you guys going to specialize your traits? Is it going to be better to focus on 2 lines or try to get a more balance going on among more lines?

NO IDEA

[Achtius]

Looking at those sites; How are you guys going to specialize your traits? Is it going to be better to focus on 2 lines or try to get a more balance going on among more lines?

Depends on your play style.

[Jira]

Looking at those sites; How are you guys going to specialize your traits? Is it going to be better to focus on 2 lines or try to get a more balance going on among more lines?

Depends entirely on what you want to do.

[Ashodin]

you guys, I don't remember there being sparkly stuff starting to show up on the countdown clock on guildwars2.com.... is something gonna happen when the BWE starts? RELEASE DATE?

[Jira]

you guys, I don't remember there being sparkly stuff starting to show up on the countdown clock on guildwars2.com.... is something gonna happen when the BWE starts? RELEASE DATE?

Maybe they're adding some subtle stuff every day leading up to a giant disco ball for the countdown Friday morning?

[Achtius]

There are specific traits you definitely want no matter how you play

For example, ranger, more or less, lacks the ability to remove condition so having evasive purity is essential.

Evasive Purity: Remove a condition from you and nearby allies on dodge roll. (RANGER)



While there are other traits that you want to have for a certain play style (i.e. if most of your utility skills are signets)

Written in Stone: You don't lose the passive effects of signets when you activate them. (Elementalist)

[Jira]

There are specific traits you definitely want no matter how you play For example, ranger, more or less, lacks the ability to remove condition so having evasive purity is essential. Evasive Purity: Remove a condition from you and nearby allies on dodge roll. (RANGER) While there are other traits that you want to have for a certain play style (i.e. if most of your utility skills are signets) Written in Stone: You don't lose the passive effects of signets when you activate them. (Elementalist)

You'd only want Evasive Purity if you're fighting condition heavy enemies, otherwise there's no point in having that slotted. It's all situational.

[Hawkian]

Evasive Purity: Remove a condition from you and nearby allies on dodge roll. (RANGER)

damn. that's hardcore

[Achtius]

You'd only want Evasive Purity if you're fighting condition heavy enemies, otherwise there's no point in having that slotted. It's all situational.

it's still nice to have, unless you respec everytime you go to a new area ;P

[Retro]

Bad analogy, if you're girlfriend was really gone for 5 years you'd be looking at porn every day anyway. It'd be more like STOPPING to watch porn before she gets back.

Heh, we've been 'looking at porn' every day, actually. Press events were like Christmas... if everyone got porn instead of presents for Christmas, that is. Imagine that, a fat unshaven guy breaks into your house, eats all of your cookies and and leaves you porn. Wait, where was this analogy going again?

My point is, why fuss around with a stripped down substitution when the real thing is only a few days away?

How are you guys going to specialize your traits? Is it going to be better to focus on 2 lines or try to get a more balance going on among more lines?

Because you get lots of passive Attributes for spending points, it pays to consider diversifying. After all, this isn't WoW: the 'Best' traits aren't buried at the end of the Trait line, you get to pick the order.

Tossing 10 points in everything may seem like you're watering yourself down, but that's still +100 Power, Precision, Toughness, Vitality and Prowess, and those are all good things for every profession to consider. Don't overlook them.

Beyond that? Just make a build that plays the way you want and work towards perfecting it.

you guys, I don't remember there being sparkly stuff starting to show up on the countdown clock on guildwars2.com.... is something gonna happen when the BWE starts? RELEASE DATE?

Sparklies? Twilight Vampire race confirmed. This is all the evidence I need to re-name the GAF guild to "Team Edward".

Looks like snow to me. Winter is Coming?

Actually, they kinda look like Embers. I'm not sure if they were there before or not.

[Ashodin]

Sparklies? Twilight Vampire race confirmed. This is all the evidence I need to re-name the GAF guild to "Team Edward". Looks like snow to me. Winter is Coming? Actually, they kinda look like Embers. I'm not sure if they were there before or not.

I'm preeeetty sure they weren't there yesterday. Absolutely sure.

[Jira]

it's still nice to have, unless you respec everytime you go to a new area ;P

You'd still have access to all of your other major Nature Magic traits, you could just switch Evasive Purity out for something else as you only need to talk to an NPC to refund your points.

[Achtius]

You'd still have access to all of your other major Nature Magic traits, you could just switch Evasive Purity out for something else as you only need to talk to an NPC to refund your points.

oh is that how it works?

Still, I'll probably be lazy and keep that one in no matter what :D

[Jira]

oh is that how it works? Still, I'll probably be lazy and keep that one in no matter what :D

Yep, the major traits can be exchanged for any of the other ones within the same line without needing to respec.

[Smiley90]

My point is, why fuss around with a stripped down substitution when the real thing is only a few days away?

Because we need our fix. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

[Ashodin]

Yep, the major traits can be exchanged for any of the other ones within the same line without needing to respec.

which is amazing!

[Achtius]

edit: nm, I am blind

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

According to luna site, the stone duration is 1 sec, so yeah both sites are good :P

That seems pretty weak for an elite skill. There are normal skills that slow or knockdown for longer duration's I think.

[Retro]

For example, ranger, more or less, lacks the ability to remove condition so having evasive purity is essential.

Um, what about Healing Spring and Signet of Renewal? Granted, the signet is a passive removal every 10 seconds, but that's easier to change out than resetting your traits if you don't want 10 points in Nature Magic.

I'm preeeetty sure they weren't there yesterday. Absolutely sure.

They're probably doing it to mess with our heads after having to sort through the same retarded questions again and again on Twitter.

Because we need our fix. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

I can quit any time I... yeah, I'm not fooling anybody.

That seems pretty weak for an elite skill. There are normal skills that slow or knockdown for longer duration's I think.

I would imagine the numbers are probably off or something similar. We're getting most of this stuff second hand and none of it is finalized either.

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

I would imagine the numbers are probably off or something similar. We're getting most of this stuff second hand and none of it is finalized either.

That's true. I guess we'll find out on Friday.

[Achtius]

Um, what about Healing Spring and Signet of Renewal? Granted, the signet is a passive removal every 10 seconds, but that's easier to change out than resetting your traits if you don't want 10 points in Nature Magic.

My playstyle is different from yours! I am planning to get troll unguent :P

Fine, you are correct about different traits for different playstyle!

[Ashodin]

That seems pretty weak for an elite skill. There are normal skills that slow or knockdown for longer duration's I think.

I've seen that skill in action on TB's videos. It's a short ass duration turn to stone. Really not that powerful.

[Retro]

edit: nm, I am blind

You changed your post before I could quote it, but in response to your question, the Troll Unguent doesn't apply the Regeneration buff, it just Regenerates health over time. Kinda confusing wording there.

That's true. I guess we'll find out on Friday.

6 Days, 13 hours, 48 minutes and 30 seconds.

/twitch

[Achtius]

You changed your post before I could quote it, but in response to your question, the Troll Unguent doesn't apply the Regeneration buff, it just Regenerates health over time. Kinda confusing wording there.

yeah, i just realized that so i edit my post :D

[Seventh]

Sorry if this has already been answered, but will we be able to pre-purchase the game from Amazon? They're on the list of qualifying retailers, but I can only find the link to pre-order the game, not pre-purchase it.

[Jira]

Sorry if this has already been answered, but will we be able to pre-purchase the game from Amazon? They're on the list of qualifying retailers, but I can only find the link to pre-order the game, not pre-purchase it.

It's been said that you can pre-purchase the digital version through them, but it seems to be in their hands and I don't think they're gonna have it going prior to this beta weekend. Amazon UK/Germany have the full capability for physical prepurchases.

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

I've seen that skill in action on TB's videos. It's a short ass duration turn to stone. Really not that powerful.

Hmm, well compared to the other two elites that have 180 second cooldowns. I guess the draw that it is a short 45s cooldown disable.

At least its CD is inline with the other utility skills.

[Retro]

I've seen that skill in action on TB's videos. It's a short ass duration turn to stone. Really not that powerful.

The only benefit to it I can see is that it only has a 45 sec. cooldown, which is pretty short for an Elite skill. Still, I expect that will either get improved, cut completely, or changed out in favor of a slightly different effect.

We'll see next week!

yeah, i just realized that so i edit my post :D

No problem, it happens. Good that we're looking at this stuff now rather than when we're on borrowed time in game. Plus, my wife is planning to roll Ranger, so knowing what her profession can and can't do easily helps. Since they can't really wipe Conditions easily, that's something I'll have to consider when I'm building.... whatever profession I finally decide to play.

[Ashodin]

I want not just the beta, but goddamn PATCH NOTES. No NDA, why the fuck not? Or unofficial ones. Let's get the ball rolling.

[narcosis219]

Are the digital deluxe edition bonuses worth 20 bucks?

[Jira]

Are the digital deluxe edition bonuses worth 20 bucks?

Better off spending that $20 on stuff you actually want in the Gem store.

[Retro]

Are the digital deluxe edition bonuses worth 20 bucks?

The general consensus is No. It seems like most people are going for either the standard edition (and planning to blow the $20 they would have spent on Gems) or buying the CE. DD seems really unpopular, at least here on GAF.

[nataku]

Yeah, if it weren't for me getting the CE I'd probably just would have got the standard version.

... Probably.

[narcosis219]

Wait there are GEMS in this game? HOW DO I CANCEL MY PREORDER?

Anyway, I am going in completely blind having not played GW. Hopefully it's amazing

[PewPewK]

Yeah, if it weren't for me getting the CE I'd probably just would have got the standard version. ... Probably.

Meh, the $20 is a waste, but I still would have done it.

[Jira]

Wait there are GEMS in this game? HOW DO I CANCEL MY PREORDER? Anyway, I am going in completely blind having not played GW. Hopefully it's amazing

The gem shop has entirely cosmetic and account based services. There's absolutely nothing in it that allows you to buy power. Also, you can buy Gems with in-game Gold so you never have to spend a dime of your own money if you don't want to.

[Jira]

Guy who posted the launcher pic said his .dat file is 15.4gb.

[zulfate]

yay new thread! but i will miss the last 2 we had :(

sorry but i havent read much today but are the official forums working? i see the site and i log in but when i click on something it does nothing! nothing!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rad-]

Hmm, well compared to the other two elites that have 180 second cooldowns. I guess the draw that it is a short 45s cooldown disable. At least its CD is inline with the other utility skills.

1 second is a tad short but let's remember that it's a venom meaning you can apply it before the combat and it lasts for 45 secs. And with a trait the recharge is just 36. Meaning you can apply another one just after the first one has been used.

2 seconds would be nice for it. Anything more and it could be too OP if you chained 2 of those. You can't counter stoning after all.

[Jira]

yay new thread! but i will miss the last 2 we had :( sorry but i havent read much today but are the official forums working? i see the site and i log in but when i click on something it does nothing! nothing!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes and no. The groundwork is there and you can send PMs to people, but the forum itself will likely come up on Friday morning.

[zulfate]

Yes and no. The groundwork is there and you can send PMs to people, but the forum itself will likely come up on Friday morning.

thank you master Jira *bows*

[Smiley90]

Yes and no. The groundwork is there and you can send PMs to people, but the forum itself will likely come up on Friday morning.

Will the forum be public or to beta-members only? (at least reading rights to the public, of a non-beta board, with the beta-board being restricted)

[Jira]

Will the forum be public or to beta-members only? (at least reading rights to the public, of a non-beta board, with the beta-board being restricted)

Well, currently you need to login to even see it and I'm going to assume that will be the case for Betas. However, seeing as there's no NDA, people can talk about what is said on the forums if they want.

[Ashodin]

Guy who posted the launcher pic said his .dat file is 15.4gb.

.dat client

[Jira]

.dat client

Indeed, my guess is the final client will be anywhere between 20-25gb considering none of the Asura or Sylvari stuff is going to be in the dat files nor are the last 2 PvP maps as well as tons of other zones that we don't have access to.

[Dash27]

There are specific traits you definitely want no matter how you play For example, ranger, more or less, lacks the ability to remove condition so having evasive purity is essential. Evasive Purity: Remove a condition from you and nearby allies on dodge roll. (RANGER) While there are other traits that you want to have for a certain play style (i.e. if most of your utility skills are signets) Written in Stone: You don't lose the passive effects of signets when you activate them. (Elementalist)

Rangers have a few options with condition removal. Signet of Renewal in utilities, Healing Spring for a heal, Evasive Purity trait you mentioned and also Empathic Bond, Brown Bear's "Shake it off". I agree that Evasive Purity seems the best of the bunch, especially coupled with the 15 point Wilderness Survival perk "Companion's Defense" and the 5 point "Natural Vigor". Gonna be a lot of dodge rolling as a Ranger.

I'm wondering if a dodge removal will work on an immobilize or stun though.

[PewPewK]

Indeed, my guess is the final client will be anywhere between 20-25gb considering none of the Asura or Sylvari stuff is going to be in the dat files nor are the last 2 PvP maps as well as tons of other zones that we don't have access to.

It wouldn't be crazy if they actually did have them in the client, just closed. It's more work to remove them from the branch than it is to just close off access to the zones, especially because zones are instanced and not connected. But of course, I could be wrong, we just don't really know for sure unless someone manages to break into the .dat file and extract the content.