[Deadstar]

Is there any chance Wii U would launch with HD versions of it's best Wii games? I've never played Mario Galaxy 1 or 2 and at this point I'm really holding out for a HD release. Any chance this will happen?

[DragonKnight]

HD Windwaker. PLEASE!!!!!

[ii Stryker]

I don't know how. Your last statement makes no sense. You do know that Shatterfield hated the Wii, and would constantly dump on Nintendo for pretty much this entire generation, right?

I don't know how Satterfields disdain for the Wii makes my statement about his overly generalized statement about the WiiU's launch lineup nonsensical.

I was speaking to the fact that the launch line up, while it may seem impressive now, will look silly when compared to what Sony and MS have to offer when the real next gen starts in 2013 and their(Nintendo's) 3rd party support will suffer for it.

[Infamous Chris]

Pikmin 3 will be godly.

[SykoTech]

oh there may be a few of those coming soon

Blowing their load before E3 then? Fine by me. But I know quite few people who will upset for some reason.

[User Name Here]

Super Mario World, Pilotwings, F-Zero, Gradius 3 and SimCity for the US.

This could end up being a much better launch than the SNES in that case.

Nintendo Redeemed! Ok, I'm calm now.

[Instro]

Is there any chance Wii U would launch with HD versions of it's best Wii games? I've never played Mario Galaxy 1 or 2 and at this point I'm really holding out for a HD release. Any chance this will happen?

Probably not, it wouldn't make sense to have their old games at a new console launch. I think HD re-releases will happen though.

I was speaking to the fact that the launch line up, while it may seem impressive now, will look silly when compared to what Sony and MS have to offer when the real next gen starts in 2013 and their(Nintendo's) 3rd party support will suffer for it.

How is anything you've just said a fact? You're making fanboy predictions for systems that are at least a year out and are irrelevant to the Wii U's launch.

[Haziq]

I'll probably have to hold off due to financial reasons and paying for school -- but by the following Summer I'll be good to get one.

If the launch line up is good, that'll probably mean I'll be able to snag a few of those games for cheap come around summer. I hope it works out for Nintendo and they succeed more than the 3DS launch did.

[Ridley327]

Probably not, it wouldn't make sense to have their old games at a new console launch. I think HD re-releases will happen though.

I'm expecting the Wii U VC to launch with at least one Gamecube title, but that would be the extent of it for the time being. HD remasters make a lot of sense if they're still sticking to Wii games not having any upscaling functions on the Wii U, but those won't come for a bit.

[J-Rock]

oh there may be a few of those coming soon

Zombie games?

[ii Stryker]

How is anything you've just said a fact? You're making fanboy predictions for systems that are at least a year out and are irrelevant to the Wii U's launch.

wut? Fanboy???

I've owned every Nintendo system at launch since the SNES (I didn't get my NES until '88). My statement is based off personal experience and Nintendo's own history of how they regard 3rd party support. *Protip* they don't really care! ;)

Nintendo has served their own needs at the expense of 3rd party since the N64 and that is a fact.

I love Nintendo's franchises but they come too few and really far between and they need 3rd party support to fill those gaps. I don't believe they'll get that support once Sony and MS launch their new machines in 2013.

[Pathetic Basement Virgin]

I don't know how Satterfields disdain for the Wii makes my statement about his overly generalized statement about the WiiU's launch lineup nonsensical. I was speaking to the fact that the launch line up, while it may seem impressive now, will look silly when compared to what Sony and MS have to offer when the real next gen starts in 2013 and their(Nintendo's) 3rd party support will suffer for it.

This makes no sense.

[shinobi602]

HD Windwaker. PLEASE!!!!!

New games. PLEASE!!!!!!

[ii Stryker]

This makes no sense.

care to elaborate?

[Massa]

care to elaborate?

You're making wild assumptions about systems you know little (Wii U) to nothing (PS, Xbox) about.

[guek]

I don't believe they'll get that support once Sony and MS launch their new machines in 2013.

This is based off of pure assumption, not facts. Precedence is in your favor, but not much else.

Based on what we know, Wii U 3rd party support next gen could go either way, regardless what you personally think. There's a lot of details left to be revealed though.

[Pathetic Basement Virgin]

care to elaborate?

The fact that something better comes along in the future doesn't make the present suck.

[shinobi602]

Supabrett, who's that in your avater?

I must see larger picture. MUST.

[KageMaru]

wut? Fanboy??? I've owned every Nintendo system at launch since the SNES (I didn't get my NES until '88). My statement is based off personal experience and Nintendo's own history of how they regard 3rd party support. *Protip* they don't really care! ;) Nintendo has served their own needs at the expense of 3rd party since the N64 and that is a fact. I love Nintendo's franchises but they come too few and really far between and they need 3rd party support to fill those gaps. I don't believe they'll get that support once Sony and MS launch their new machines in 2013.

Even understanding Nintendo's past, there are some key differences this gen and also some factors you're overlooking IMO.

We'll see how it all goes.

[schuelma]

Cool. As others have said, most likely talking about 3rd party stuff. I imagine it is nothing more than Wii U getting some of the more high profile PS360 stuff right at launch, and not exclusives, but still nice to hear.

[ii Stryker]

You're making wild assumptions about systems you know little (Wii U) to nothing (PS, Xbox) about.

My "assumptions" are based off the past histories of what these companies have done which is recorded fact.

Nintendo will (in all likelihood) do well until the hype train for the ps4/720 start.

And I'm not trying to be negative, I'm just going to keep my expectations in check because nintendo is very good at plucking at the old NES/SNES nostalgic fanboy in all of us.

My nostalgia glasses are off and I can see with better objectivity then most.

[Haunted]

I disagree.

[wrowa]

My "assumptions" are based off the past histories of what these companies have done which is recorded fact. Nintendo will (in all likelihood) do well until the hype train for the ps4/720 start.

Yes, that's clearly what history told us. Remember when no one bought the Wii because the more popular consoles Xbox 360 and PS3 were already on the market?

[BY2K]

My "assumptions" are based off the past histories of what these companies have done which is recorded fact. Nintendo will (in all likelihood) do well until the hype train for the ps4/720 start. And I'm not trying to be negative, I'm just going to keep my expectations in check because nintendo is very good at plucking at the old NES/SNES nostalgic fanboy in all of us. My nostalgia glasses are off and I can see with better objectivity then most.

Oh aren't you sweet.

Tell me, what's the situation between the 3DS and the Vita? Last time I checked, the 3DS was kicking the Vita's ass. (At least in Japan, did we ever get some Vita numbers for NA?)

[jrDev]

It's true that Iwata said they learned their lesson from the slow start of 3DS. And 3DS argueably didn't have the most compelling launch title selection. And of course you could say that Wii U is getting many quality titles for launch but if vast majority of them are ports from past years (which will be the case for most publishers) then it doesn't really matter.

Logic (and evidence so far) is guaranteeing most of the lineup won't be ports from "past years"...

[yurinka]

I expect to see at launch New Super Mario Bros Wii (U) 2, since they said something about consoles conectivity when announcing NSMB2 for 3DS.

Is there any chance Wii U would launch with HD versions of it's best Wii games? I've never played Mario Galaxy 1 or 2 and at this point I'm really holding out for a HD release. Any chance this will happen?

If it isn't BC, I think it's because they plan to do the same Sony did this gen, to release HD versions of the previous gen (PS2/PSP instead of Wii) in the HD console (PS3 insead of WiiU) as retail games with some minor updates (trophies/Move/3D/minor graphical upgrades/etc), maybe released as collections.

My money is on something like the Vita. High quantity, tons of ports including ports of games that have been out for more than a year, some sequels to games with minimal new features and then a general lukewarm feeling of the whole thing, proceeded by twiddling of thumbs waiting for new games. So basically a decent launch.

This PSP / Vita haz no gamez, it only haz portz is just bullshit trolling.
I'm tired of hearing this in Gaf a lot of times.

If I don't mistake Vita launch had :

16 new games
Uncharted: Golden Abyss
WipEout 2048
Lumines:Electronic Symphony
Army Corps of Hell
Dynasty Warriors Next
Escape Plan (PSN Only)
ModNation Racers: Road Trip
Super Stardust Delta (PSN Only)
TOUCH MY KATAMARI
Reality Fighters
Ridge Racer Vita
Tales from Space: Mutant Blobs Attack (PSN Only)
Asphalt: Injection
Shinobido 2: Revenge of Zen
Hot Shots Golf World Invitational
Little Deviants

12 ports / enhaced ports / multiplatform games
Ben 10: Galactic Racing
BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend
Dungeon Hunter: Alliance
F1 2011
FIFA Soccer
Hustle Kings (PSN Only)
Michael Jackson: The Experience
Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3
Virtua Tennis 4
Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus
Plants vs. Zombies (PSN Only)
Rayman Origins

Maybe there are some few missing ones or some in the wrong group (I'm not interested in some of them), but it's pretty clear that Vita had a lot of NEW games that aren't ports or enhaced ports compared to other systems. Both the quality and the proportion of new vs ports is higher than the average game launch of a lot of other systems.

[ElTopo]

My "assumptions" are based off the past histories of what these companies have done which is recorded fact.

The problem is that you completely neglect the circumstances of the past decisions. The past is fact, its interpretation however, is not.

Nintendo will (in all likelihood) do well until the hype train for the ps4/720 start.

So you're saying they'll have quite a head start, maybe they'll even be cheaper, and they'll do fine, but unlike most of the time in the past, having a head start is no gigantic advantage ? Makes...sense* ?

*Not saying you're wrong, but it's a bit of a double standard.

And I'm not trying to be negative, I'm just going to keep my expectations in check because nintendo is very good at plucking at the old NES/SNES nostalgic fanboy in all of us. My nostalgia glasses are off and I can see with better objectivity then most.

Dude, you took off your real glasses.

Edit:

I must see larger picture. MUST.

Google Search by Image is your friend, it yields a larger picture.

[Pathetic Basement Virgin]

Supabrett, who's that in your avater? I must see larger picture. MUST.

here ya go I know Ive been asked enough. (still not very big)

get bonus!!

[ii Stryker]

Oh aren't you sweet. Tell me, what's the situation between the 3DS and the Vita? Last time I checked, the 3DS was kicking the Vita's ass. (At least in Japan, did we ever get some Vita numbers for NA?)

There's currently a drought of games for the Vita and the 3DS did pretty poorly at launch. Iwata and several other execs took a pay cut because of it.

I don't know how your comparison relates to the home console market though?

[Criminal Upper]

You're making wild assumptions about systems you know little (Wii U) to nothing (PS, Xbox) about.

Dude, leave him alone in his imaginary world of nothing.

[freddy]

My nostalgia glasses are off and I can see with better objectivity then most.

No, you're just swimming in your own shit and think its pure liquid gold.

[EmCeeGramr]

I disagree.

Did you bring enough for the rest of the class?

[wrowa]

I don't know how your comparison relates to the home console market though?

Okay, you are talking about history. Would you like to refer to a situation in the past where what you are referring to became true?

[Hero of Legend]

Can't wait for that RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDGE RAAAAAAAAAACERRRRRRR!

I'm down, though was it ShockingAlberto who heard in some way that Namco isn't making one? Hope they are doing one, I've been meaning to get the 3DS version, and would be happy with a Wii U one, even if it's a port of RR7.

[guek]

My "assumptions" are based off the past histories of what these companies have done which is recorded fact. Nintendo will (in all likelihood) do well until the hype train for the ps4/720 start. And I'm not trying to be negative, I'm just going to keep my expectations in check because nintendo is very good at plucking at the old NES/SNES nostalgic fanboy in all of us. My nostalgia glasses are off and I can see with better objectivity then most.

Historical precedent is not what's going to determine 3rd party support. Any correlation that exists between past and future platform viability is going to be miniscule at best. You need to be realistic. You say your nostalgia glasses are off, but your argument boils down to nothing more than "cuz it's nintendo."

If 3rd party ports are possible on the Wii U, they will probably come. We know this based on present day 3rd party trends. Even if porting is difficult, it's hard to say with certainty how next gen is going to turn out. We don't know exactly what the Wii U will be capable of...we know absolutely nothing about what PS4/XB3 will be capable of. You're making gross assumptions that have no correlation with what we do and do not know.

[LegendofJoe]

I'm confident that the WiiU will at least have better 3rd party support than the Wii, that in combination with Nintendo's games is enough for me to get behind it. If it ends up getting 3rd party support on par with either of the other two consoles, then that will be a nice plus.

[ii Stryker]

Okay, you are talking about history. Would you like to refer to a situation in the past where what you are referring to became true?

Nintendo's 3rd party support since the N64 has consistently been horrendous.

[yurinka]

I'm down, though was it ShockingAlberto who heard in some way that Namco isn't making one? Hope they are doing one, I've been meaning to get the 3DS version, and would be happy with a Wii U one, even if it's a port of RR7.

If they release one, I think that a port if RR Unbounded is more likely than a brand new one considering the RRU recent release.

[Herbspicesoy]

I really want to see GTA V on this system, but I can't think of any good or fun features using the touchscreen. I was thinking of a GPS, but the one IV had seems more intuitive.

[linko9]

I guess the real question is whether it will launch with Smash Bros. That would be huge.

[FoxHimself]

I agree.

[AceBandage]

I guess the real question is whether it will launch with Smash Bros. That would be huge.

Also impossible.
Considering they haven't even had a year to work on it.

[CrazyDude]

I guess the real question is whether it will launch with Smash Bros. That would be huge.

They are only now in the first stages of making that game. That is not happening at all.

[Nibel]

I guess the real question is whether it will launch with Smash Bros. That would be huge.

Sakurai just released Kid Icarus. How on earth should they release a SSB at launch?

[Alex]

I just want the Nintendo games, not the third party port barrage of old shit I have on my PC, so I hope that angle of it is the good part.

[AkimbO_Arcana]

Supabrett, who's that in your avater? I must see larger picture. MUST.

lol avatar quote right here.

[Herbspicesoy]

There will probably be a Retro launch title right?

[Terrell]

If we're gonna play the "history" card, Japanese developers struggled this gen because they, like every other gen, threw the majority of their support behind a single platform, but this time they did it with PS3. Thanks to its failure at launch, they were forcibly hoisted into multi-platform development to hedge their bets, using pre-existing HD assets made for PS3. And because the word "multi-platform" is a dirty word to them and have always done exclusives or timed exclusives with later-down-the-road ports, they floundered. BAD.

By and large, thanks to the success of the Wii, 3rd-parties in Japan see a viable Japanese HD platform that's coming out unopposed for at least a year in their home country. They're going to double-down on the WiiU. And because of that, I feel no hesitation about 3rd-party support whatsoever.

[H_Prestige]

If we're gonna play the "history" card, Japanese developers struggled this gen because they, like every other gen, threw the majority of their support behind a single platform, but this time they did it with PS3. Thanks to its failure at launch, they were forcibly hoisted into multi-platform development to hedge their bets, using pre-existing HD assets made for PS3. And because the word "multi-platform" is a dirty word to them and have always done exclusives or timed exclusives with later-down-the-road ports, they floundered. BAD. By and large, thanks to the success of the Wii, 3rd-parties in Japan see a viable Japanese HD platform that's coming out unopposed for at least a year in their home country. They're going to double-down on the WiiU. And because of that, I feel no hesitation about 3rd-party support whatsoever.

So they're going to throw away the entire ps360 user base and bet on a system which hasn't sold a single unit yet? LOL

At best you'll get some ps3 ports.

[Metalic]

Hey maybe we could have a Mario game at launch just like the old days.

I can dream can't I?