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RPGCrazied
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(04-26-2012, 04:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by DoctorWho


So we can turn off both the letterbox shittiness

You can't turn that off.
ironcreed
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(04-26-2012, 04:21 PM)
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Dat lighting

Dat monster detail

Dem fire effects

... So good
xextil
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(04-26-2012, 04:25 PM)
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I recommend read this article, very epic: http://bitmob.com/articles/a-series-...-dragons-dogma
Gbraga
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(04-26-2012, 04:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Evolved1

Someone mentioned it before... but hold both triggers and hitting O/B lets to leap backwards with the fighter guy.

Too bad they don't add three more moves when holding down both triggers.

Using triggers as quick modifiers is pretty smart design, but having nothing really mapped to L1+R1+ buttons seems like wasted space.

Even if the game didn't have enough "moves" to fill these slots... it'd be cool to have items or equipment bound to them. Avoid having to mess around in the menu for common, menial things like using basic potion(s).

That's a really nice suggestion, I hope they'd listen to you.

Didn't know about the leap as well, can be useful since it seems that only the Strider has a dodge roll.
demigod
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(04-26-2012, 04:29 PM)

Originally Posted by Ryuuga

You're right! I played the PS3 version of the demo and the peformance wasn't detrimental to the several encounters throughout the demo, but you can't sit here and tell me or anyone else that the demo provided a smooth, consistent framerate. There were several occasions in the heat (and outside) of battle when the framerate would momentarily bog down or stutter, whether it be a poison mist spray here or a dragon breathing fire there, it wasn't truly consistent by any stretch of the imagination.

BS, it might not be 30fps on the PS3, but it IS consistent. I have NOT even stuttered once in DD. Go make a video of your framerate drops.
Mognet
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(04-26-2012, 04:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fezan

and my fav

[IMG]http://i.minus.com/ibg69BFqQ2w2RW.gif[IMG]

That's pretty awesome.

"Just Guard" surprised me when I found out I could do it when soloing the prologue boss. I got so EXCITE!
maquiladora
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(04-26-2012, 04:34 PM)
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I didn't notice any framerate problems while playing the demo on PS3.

:shrug:

Only think I didn't like was the banding in the sky when it got dark.
ironcreed
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(04-26-2012, 04:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gbraga

That's a really nice suggestion, I hope they'd listen to you.

Didn't know about the leap as well, can be useful since it seems that only the Strider has a dodge roll.

Magic Archer and Assassin can roll as well. Magic archer is a cross between Mage and Ranger, with magic arrows and you can wield a staff as a secondary weapon. The Assassin is a cross between Strider and Fighter that can wield swords and boards, daggers and a bow. Plus, you obviously have abilities that are unique to those specific vocations.
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Evolved1
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(04-26-2012, 04:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gbraga

That's a really nice suggestion, I hope they'd listen to you.

Didn't know about the leap as well, can be useful since it seems that only the Strider has a dodge roll.

The leap is actually really useful. It doesn't cost stamina. And it's a safe move to use when you're against a mob or a tough enemy. Because blocking fixes your character's orientation, you don't have a lot of mobility. Or room for error. Lowering guard and trying to change your orientation can be troublesome in a tight fight. Leaping back keeps your guard up until just before you jump and returns guard as soon as you land. This few feet gives you a little room to breathe, allowing you to quickly lower guard to make a move -- or get your bearings.
Gbraga
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(04-26-2012, 04:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by ironcreed

Magic Archer and Assassin can roll as well. Magic archer is a cross between Mage and Strider, with magic arrows and you can wield a staff as a secondary weapon. The Assassin is a cross between Ranger and Fighter that can wield swords and boards, daggers and a bow. Plus, you obviously have abilities that are unique to those specific vocations.

Interesting! I guess I'll go with the Assassin. Double the ass
Meccanical
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(04-26-2012, 04:43 PM)
The thing is with classes is that they all look so fun to play.

I want to try them all.
Grisby
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(04-26-2012, 04:45 PM)
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I noticed some technical stuff the second time around. The framerate was a bit low but the image seemed a bit blurry and the colors washed out.

Wonder if the image looks sharper on the 360. Might have to give the demo a DL on there.
Patryn
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(04-26-2012, 04:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Grisby

I noticed some technical stuff the second time around. The framerate was a bit low but the image seemed a bit blurry and the colors washed out.

Wonder if the image looks sharper on the 360. Might have to give the demo a DL on there.

Expect tearing.
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(04-26-2012, 04:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by demigod

BS, it might not be 30fps on the PS3, but it IS consistent. I have NOT even stuttered once in DD. Go make a video of your framerate drops.

I'm at work right now and had I been at home to accept this challenge I would still not have the resources to do so nor would I waste my time. People seem to be stuck on "consistency" but my original quote had to do with those settling on a notch lower than a steady 30 FPS. I'm willing to be proven wrong that the framerate is consistent which is why I'm awaiting a framerate analysis video. It's such a shame we've fallen to a point where 30 FPS is seen as "fine".
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(04-26-2012, 04:51 PM)
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I feel like this game would be better served by saving it for a new system launch title if only just to smooth out the tech issues. I'm not familiar with the genre, but it felt too choppy for how chaotic it was (PS3). Maybe that's par for the course, but being smooth and full screen would help accessibility a ton. But then again, most of the games I play are much closer to 60 fps on console or computers, or a least a solid 30 fps v-synced on consoles. It probably wouldn't deter most people, I guess.
Syril
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(04-26-2012, 04:51 PM)

Originally Posted by Akai

It boggles my mind that there are so many people that don't like the party chatter. It's something that I wish was in more RPGs considering it actually feels like, you know, a party of heroes instead of a hero and his mannequins...

My complaint isn't that they speak frequently. The characters in Xenoblade Chronicles never shut up either. My problem is that everything they say is a protip. No actual character or personality is being expressed here.
Dreweyes
(04-26-2012, 04:52 PM)
I was bored...

Skilletor
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(04-26-2012, 04:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ryuuga

I'm at work right now and had I been at home to accept this challenge I would still not have the resources to do so nor would I waste my time. People seem to be stuck on "consistency" but my original quote had to do with those settling on a notch lower than a steady 30 FPS. I'm willing to be proven wrong that the framerate is consistent which is why I'm awaiting a framerate analysis video. It's such a shame we've fallen to a point where 30 FPS is seen as "fine".

It's fine because it's standard on consoles. I don't see what's wrong with that. Especially in huge open world games.

If this game was on PC, 60fps or nothing.
KO Traveling Hobo
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(04-26-2012, 04:53 PM)
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Please never be bored again.
Dreweyes
(04-26-2012, 04:55 PM)

Originally Posted by KO Traveling Hobo

Please never be bored again.

Grisby
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(04-26-2012, 04:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Patryn

Expect tearing.

Yeah, that's a shame. But I think i'd put up with it for a cleaner image and a smoother fps. I dunno, didn't bother me that much. Game sure is a looker.
Anteater
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(04-26-2012, 04:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mognet

That's pretty awesome.

"Just Guard" surprised me when I found out I could do it when soloing the prologue boss. I got so EXCITE!

Yea that's an awesome mechanic, and it's actually really useful too, since blocking isn't always good against huge attacks (found out there's a stamina drain), I have a feeling Fighter is going to be hard as hell to use, took me quite a few fights to be able to block and parry anything.

I hope there are some skills to enhance your blocking to make them more rewarding, there is Mystic Knight with god damn fireball counter, I'm expecting good things!
demigod
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(04-26-2012, 05:05 PM)

Originally Posted by Ryuuga

I'm at work right now and had I been at home to accept this challenge I would still not have the resources to do so nor would I waste my time. People seem to be stuck on "consistency" but my original quote had to do with those settling on a notch lower than a steady 30 FPS. I'm willing to be proven wrong that the framerate is consistent which is why I'm awaiting a framerate analysis video. It's such a shame we've fallen to a point where 30 FPS is seen as "fine".

Thought you'd come back and say that, lol. You don't like the sub 30fps? That's fine, but don't spread fud that there's framerate drops or *stutters*. Some people keep claiming there's framerate drops on PS3 but they haven't shown any proof. The 360 people already proved there's massive tearing with 1080p and slight tearing on 720p with vids.
ironcreed
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(04-26-2012, 05:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Skilletor

It's fine because it's standard on consoles. I don't see what's wrong with that. Especially in huge open world games.

Thank you.

Are people really expecting an open world game like this to run faster than 30 FPS on consoles? As far as the PS3 version goes, it is not locked at 30, but it runs at a more than steady clip, and is more than fine for console standards in a game this big. Some of you are acting like it is some near unplayable mess that takes dips like Blight Town and that is complete bullshit. The footage proves it.
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(04-26-2012, 05:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by xextil

I recommend read this article, very epic: http://bitmob.com/articles/a-series-...-dragons-dogma

Good read. Thanks!
sammy
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(04-26-2012, 05:16 PM)
I've been pretty hyped for this game and the demo is so much fun. This new trend in Japanese developers delivering great western style fantasy is awesome.

Day one for sure, the combination of great combat and very well executed mythical beasts is enough for me to sign up. There's a strong Monster Hunter vibe to the boss battles then there's for sure a demon's/dark souls direction with all the active fighting animations. Next month can't come soon enough, I'm itching to explore the landscape.
Jake Tower
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(04-26-2012, 05:16 PM)

Originally Posted by Dreweyes

I was bored...

Annie Lennox really let herself go.
Tex117
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(04-26-2012, 05:20 PM)
Played for a solid hour last night...solo'ed the Chimera...waitied for night for the Griffin.

Goodness, this game in an open world with the "adventuring" and "exploring" aspect is going to be epic (in the real sense of the word).

I can't wait for the difficulty to be turned up and there is use for all 3 pawns. (We all can admit, the party of 4 was too overpowered for this demo, but all accounts say the game is fairly difficult...so there will be a need). Oh, and previews have said, the weaker the pawns you use (or less), the more exp you get for each fight.

I really enjoyed the chaotic mess of the fights...People are screaming...things are happening all over the place....and there is fire...flying....blood.

Yup...I'm in...and this may very well enter my personal game of the year 2012 considerations.
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(04-26-2012, 05:47 PM)
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Dunno what people are talking about with regards to the character creator not yielding much. Sure its a bit fiddly and nowhere near indepth as Demon's Souls and that ilk, but heres my main and pawn:



I love the speed of being a Strider, but want some cool melee combat so not sure if I'm drawn to Assassin or Magick Archer the most overall. From what people say, magic is a very helpful. Hrrrm. Hope theres plenty of cool armours and costumes anyway. Why isn't it next month yet :/
LeadProtagonist
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(04-26-2012, 06:25 PM)
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I'm not sure why everyone's clamoring for graphics comparisons/analysis when you guys can just see it for itself.

If it looks fine to you, is it really going to change your opinion of the game when someone does an analysis and says it's performing worse than how you thought it was?
Zefah
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(04-26-2012, 06:30 PM)

Originally Posted by WickedLaharl

Well you were lied to.

Hopefully an analysis of the demo will pop up soon so the "framerate is fine" crowd can be silenced for good.

"Framerate is fine" is highly subjective. I've got a pretty nice gaming PC that can play most games at 60fps. Obviously, higher framerates are preferred, but I found the Dragon's Dogma demo to be perfectly playable. I'd much rather play it on the PC where I know it would perform amazingly, but that doesn't appear to be in the cards right now, unfortunately.
DimmuBurgerKing
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(04-26-2012, 06:34 PM)
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Just played the PS3 demo. Went into it expecting very little and came away pleasantly surprised! I rode a flying griffon while stabbing it repeatedly in the ribcage. I mean, how cool is that? Definitely on my radar now.
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(04-26-2012, 06:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by demigod

BS, it might not be 30fps on the PS3, but it IS consistent. I have NOT even stuttered once in DD. Go make a video of your framerate drops.

I have trouble believing that different PS3s would achieve different framerates with the demo, and on my PS3 there were certainly framerate issues. It was never close to being unplayable, but in the outdoors quest the framerate varied between 30 and 20 fps depending on which way I faced the camera. It was definitely not locked at 30 fps, nor at 20 fps (the difference between them is very easy to tell). And with the game being v-synced, it can't run at anything in-between either.
See You Next Wednesday
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(04-26-2012, 07:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fezan

and my fav


I do hate the absolute ZERO visibility at night. I mean come on, when it's night, go out somewhere without streetlights & you can still see stuff. The sky would also be filled with bright stars that would light up a lot of the scenery.
Marco1
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(04-26-2012, 07:06 PM)
I'm sure it's been asked but if I were to buy this or dark souls, which would be the better game?
Thanks.
Patryn
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(04-26-2012, 07:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Marco1

I'm sure it's been asked but if I were to buy this or dark souls, which would be the better game?
Thanks.

It really depends on what you're looking for. They're both RPGs, but they're very different in approach. Dark Souls is about the combat and slowly exploring a world. Doesn't really do overtly marked quests, and not a lot of dialogue.

Dragon's Dogma has you working with a party (if you wish) and working a quest-based structure in an open-world. Sounds like a dash of Dark Souls, a pinch of Elder Scrolls, and a touch of Monster Hunter mixed together.

It also doesn't help that Dragon's Dogma isn't out for another month.

But most people would probably say Dark Souls.
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ReaperXL7
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Originally Posted by Marco1

I'm sure it's been asked but if I were to buy this or dark souls, which would be the better game?
Thanks.

I would think it's impossible to answer that until Dragons Dogma actually releases. They are different games though, Dragons Dogma is a completely open world, go anywhere do anything type of RPG. Dark Souls is more open the Demon's but not to the same extent as DD.

If your on the fence i'd say wait until Dogma comes out and see what others thing, then make your choice. Many will say Dark Souls simply due to the fact that people have actually played the full game, and because of that know much more about the overall gameplay, and mechanics.
Syril
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(04-26-2012, 07:12 PM)

Originally Posted by See You Next Wednesday

I do hate the absolute ZERO visibility at night. I mean come on, when it's night, go out somewhere without streetlights & you can still see stuff. The sky would also be filled with bright stars that would light up a lot of the scenery.

Clearly Dragon's Dogma's planet is set in Spelljammer, and its crystal sphere has no moons and no balls of light stuck to the interior that are often mistaken as stars.
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(04-26-2012, 07:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Marco1

I'm sure it's been asked but if I were to buy this or dark souls, which would be the better game?
Thanks.

Nobody has the game....so that's a stupid question.
throwawayname
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(04-26-2012, 07:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Marco1

I'm sure it's been asked but if I were to buy this or dark souls, which would be the better game?
Thanks.

Buy Dark Souls right now and play the shit out of it until Dragons Dogma comes out.
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(04-26-2012, 07:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by See You Next Wednesday

I do hate the absolute ZERO visibility at night. I mean come on, when it's night, go out somewhere without streetlights & you can still see stuff. The sky would also be filled with bright stars that would light up a lot of the scenery.

maybe there is simulated moon cycles and we'll get visible nights later on?
ultron87
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(04-26-2012, 07:19 PM)
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I am now between this and TERA as my game choice that isn't Diablo for the month. They both seem like they could scratch a somewhat similar itch.
Marco1
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(04-26-2012, 07:22 PM)

Originally Posted by xKilltheMx

Nobody has the game....so that's a stupid question.

Easy tiger, I am asking based on peoples time spent with the demo and who have also played dark souls.
I appreciate the other comments though. I didn't realise dogma is open world and party orientated.
Lain
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(04-26-2012, 07:24 PM)
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Played the prologue and a bit of the campaign (I died with that Grifon lol). Game looks better than I actually thought and the combat feels nice enough, though I sort of feel like I'd prefer a sort of lock on.

I'm guessing the character and pawn we make in the demo won't be usable in the released game? It would be cool if it was usable.
Patryn
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(04-26-2012, 07:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Marco1

Easy tiger, I am asking based on peoples time spent with the demo and who have also played dark souls.
I appreciate the other comments though. I didn't realise dogma is open world and party orientated.

Demo is two short combat segments. You can seriously breeze through it in under 20 minutes. It lacks a look into a LOT of the mechanics of what the game is. There's no character building, no exploring, no talking to people and gaining quests, etc, etc.

Honestly, from what we know, it's actually a pretty shitty demo because it isn't super representative of what the game is going to be.
Akai
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(04-26-2012, 07:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lain

I'm guessing the character and pawn we make in the demo won't be usable in the released game? It would be cool if it was usable.

Don't worry, you'll be able to...
Patryn
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(04-26-2012, 07:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lain

Played the prologue and a bit of the campaign (I died with that Grifon lol). Game looks better than I actually thought and the combat feels nice enough, though I sort of feel like I'd prefer a sort of lock on.

I'm guessing the character and pawn we make in the demo won't be usable in the released game? It would be cool if it was usable.

Did you miss the part where it says that you'll be able to import your characters into the final game? That's the point of it. You can create your character now, and just pop them into the game when you get it and start right away.
Syril
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(04-26-2012, 07:31 PM)

Originally Posted by Lain

Played the prologue and a bit of the campaign (I died with that Grifon lol). Game looks better than I actually thought and the combat feels nice enough, though I sort of feel like I'd prefer a sort of lock on.

When you fight small enemies, it feels like it aims your attacks towards them. I'm used to no lock-on from Monster Hunter, but the camera could stand to rotate faster. There wasn't a setting for that, was there?
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(04-26-2012, 07:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by Akai

Don't worry, you'll be able to...

Originally Posted by Patryn

Did you miss the part where it says that you'll be able to import your characters into the final game? That's the point of it. You can create your character now, and just pop them into the game when you get it and start right away.

That's nice and indeed I missed that part.
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(04-26-2012, 07:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by See You Next Wednesday

I do hate the absolute ZERO visibility at night. I mean come on, when it's night, go out somewhere without streetlights & you can still see stuff. The sky would also be filled with bright stars that would light up a lot of the scenery.

I've seen some screens that definitely don't look as dark as others. Perhaps they have phases of the moon? Either way, I think it fits the game perfectly, it really does add to the suspense when you can't see shit and all you can hear is some winged lion about to rip you in half.

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