[olore]

Now what would make him say such a thing?

He`s a swede with less than great knowledge of the änglisch language?

[Triple U]

The lacking support only make the total sales more impressive. And it's not shovelware that make up the bulk of the sales, but things like Guitar Hero, Just Dance, Mario & Sonic, Lego [franchise] (there are a lot of these), Epic Mickey, Sonic, Zumba, Tiger Wood etc. Basically, it played with the hand it was dealt. It should be noted that Resident Evil 4 and Red Steel were some of the biggest successes early on, but were never followed up on in a timely manner. CoD 3 -> CoD 4 was a specific example. I'm sure if you tried for a second you could think of some other big third party games that skipped the Wii. If not, let me know and I'll help you out.

Do you have proof?

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

does that mean no timesplitters 4 then also?

[GDGF]

Do you have proof?

This is NeoGAF.

If the proof is out there someone here has it.

[FieryBalrog]

God, new console time is still the most fun time on GAF

[Jokeropia]

Do you have proof?

That those games outsold the shovelware? Very little shovelware actually sells large numbers, it only exists because it's so cheap to develop. Still, Ubisoft, one of the premier peddlers of such games complained about their lack of success back in the day. I think Carnival Games, Game Party and Deca Sports are the only exceptions, and they all failed to repeat their success with the sequels.

Seriously? That's the example you want to bring? The PS3 wasn't even available in all regions when CoD 3 released...

We can look at NPD numbers only. Same story.

[Metalmurphy]

We can look at NPD numbers only. Same story.

NPD numbers, sure, where the PS3 STILL only released after the game had already been released on the other consoles...

How about an example where that doesn't happen?

[Jokeropia]

NPD numbers, sure, where the PS3 STILL only released after the game had already been released on the other consoles...

Call of Duty 3 was a launch title on both Wii and PS3 when they came out in November 2006. In fact, the PS3 was released two days before the Wii.

[BurntPork]

Read my post carefully this time.

Yes, I know you said "yet." I expect you to be proven wrong at E3. There's no way CryEngine isn't on Wii U already. They've had kits for at least a year. It's just completely impossible.

[Kazuma Kiryu]

I do hope for Nintendo's sake that this is not indicative of how third parties will treat its next home console again. Nintendo has always been great at acquiring fantastic third party support for its handhelds. Especially the Nintendo DS, and lately the 3DS. However third party support on the N64, Gamecube and Wii was generally terrible. With some really outstanding exceptions here and there of course. In the end it probably doesn't really matter much in terms of console sales, because as per usual, you want to own a Nintendo System for the Nintendo games.

this should have been the end of this thread.

[stuminus3]

I want Nintendo games on my Nintendo system. And pudding. I want pudding on my Nintendo pudding.

[Metalmurphy]

Yes, I know you said "yet." I expect you to be proven wrong at E3. There's no way CryEngine isn't on Wii U already. They've had kits for at least a year. It's just completely impossible.

Not only did I say yet as I also said CryEngine 3 not supporting the Wii U, not the other way around. It took time for it to support the 360/PS3 as well.

Call of Duty 3 was a launch title on both Wii and PS3 when they came out in November 2006. In fact, the PS3 was released two days before the Wii.

And a week after the 360 version, you know, the exact same version only on a different console with nothing else going for it and you get to play it sooner... Like I said, another example if you can. Or why even bother? We all know what the picture is.

[Antagon]

Not only did I say yet as I also said CryEngine 3 not supporting the Wii U, not the other way around. It took time for it to support the 360/PS3 as well. And a week after the 360 version, you know, the exact same version only on a different console with nothing else going for it and you get to play it sooner... Like I said, another example if you can. Or why even bother? We all know what the picture is.

No third parties original AAA games except maybe Monster Hunter Tri, which outsold the PS2 Monster Hunters. That doesn't mean that quality third party games can't sell, just that noone tried.

[StevieP]

Not only did I say yet as I also said CryEngine 3 not supporting the Wii U, not the other way around. It took time for it to support the 360/PS3 as well

It took time to get it up and running on Wii U as well. And it is. And better than it's running on the other current consoles.

[Metalmurphy]

It took time to get it up and running on Wii U as well. And it is. And better than it's running on the other current consoles.

Where did you head this? Not that I doubt it will run better, it is a more powerful console after all, but considering how development is done pretty much simultaneously for all platforms with CryEngine then why the statement in the OP?

No third parties original AAA games except maybe Monster Hunter Tri, which outsold the PS2 Monster Hunters. That doesn't mean that quality third party games can't sell, just that noone tried.

That's not what I was disputing.

[StevieP]

Where did you head this? Not that I doubt it will run better, it is a more powerful console after all, but considering how development is done pretty much simultaneously for all platforms with CryEngine then why the statement in the OP?.

Ask Crytek UK. As you can tell by my tag, I have no insider info

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lol

(What I said is true, btw - there are verified folks on this very forum that could back that up)

[MadOdorMachine]

Crysis 3 isn't due out for another year. They had to have had dev kits early on - probably a year ago/last spring. That was right after Crysis 2. I would like to know the reasoning behind it not coming to Wii U.

[TGO]

It took time to get it up and running on Wii U as well. And it is. And better than it's running on the other current consoles.

CryEngine 3 was running super fine on PS3 too, better then 360 even, shame they forgot to mention the resolution.

[kamspy]

Crysis 3 isn't due out for another year. They had to have had dev kits early on - probably a year ago/last spring. That was right after Crysis 2. I would like to know the reasoning behind it not coming to Wii U.

Like most game makers, they don't want to compete with Nintendo's first party offerings. I even remember getting shafted on ports quite a few times on the GameCube.

That's just life. When since SNES had Nintendo ever gotten consistent multiplatform releases?

If you were Crytek, would you invest in a WiiU port of Crysis 3? It's understandable to me when you factor in the controller quirks and great unknown multiplayer situation.

[StevieP]

CryEngine 3 was running super fine on PS3 too, better then 360 even, shame they forgot to mention the resolution.

720p. Not subHD

[MadOdorMachine]

Like most game makers, they don't want to compete with Nintendo's first party offerings. I even remember getting shafted on ports quite a few times on the GameCube. That's just life. When since SNES had Nintendo ever gotten consistent multiplatform releases? If you were Crytek, would you invest in a WiiU port of Crysis 3? It's understandable to me when you factor in the controller quirks and great unknown multiplayer situation.

If I were Crytek, not only would I invest in Crysis 3 for Wii U, but I would also port Crysis and Crysis 2 to it as well. Console launches are the perfect time to build a fanbase which is exactly what they're aiming for.

I'm picturing Wii U to be an almost exact repeat of GC. There was so much promise of third party support for the GC before it launched only to see it shunned within a year or two after it released. It even started the exact same way. There were a lot of third party games at first, but it lacked the major ones. After a year third party devs said they wouldn't support it when the games were never there or were crappy ports. The similarities to GC are astounding. The have the connectivity they wanted back then. It's even possible we could see a DS/3DS player for it.

[Medalion]

E3, where u at and help us clear some of this shit up?

[Roq12]

He`s a swede with less than great knowledge of the änglisch language?

If you're still talking about the Crytek guy, then hes not a swede, he's german.

[Replicant]

[Jokeropia]

And a week after the 360 version, you know, the exact same version only on a different console with nothing else going for it and you get to play it sooner... Like I said, another example if you can. Or why even bother? We all know what the picture is.

Are you really trying to claim that the Wii version had an unfair advantage over the PS3 version in this respect? The primary reason it sold more is that the Wii sold more. The point is that the Wii ecosystem was a blank slate in the beginning and one of the biggest initial third party games was an FPS. (Red Steel). Then this type of third party support dried up and the ecosystem formed accordingly.

[zlatko]

Wasted opportunity I think. Could do a lot of cool nanosuit stuff with the Wii U controller.