Tendo
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(04-30-2012, 09:05 PM)

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#1251

DO I WANT MY PANDA TO BE A SORCERER OR AN ARCHER. THIS DECISION. UNGH.
Einbroch
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(04-30-2012, 09:06 PM)

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#1252

NOOO! Can't transfer from VoT to BC. Only to FV.
SwimmingwithChickenz
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(04-30-2012, 09:07 PM)
#1253

guys?! Guys?? Where did everybody go? *crickets chirping* ....lucky bastads.
_tetsuo_
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(04-30-2012, 09:07 PM)

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#1254

Yea, my subscription is messed up, and the support page is down it appears so I can't talk to anyone about it. Urge to kill is rising.
mileS
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(04-30-2012, 09:09 PM)

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#1255

Originally Posted by Visceir: View Post
Might be an odd question but why do people care about achievements? Do you actually benefit from them somehow?
Its a fun thing to do on the side. Adds lots of life to the game when you look at all of them and pick out some ones you can work towards. There seems to be tons of titles to unlock from what I seen.

Last night I added 40 people from the guild to my friends list to unlock the "Friendly" title :)

Speaking of achievements.. there's a few strange ones in TERA. Join 10 guilds, become the leader of 10 guilds. Things like that. That to me isn't something you should be rewarded for, I don't know.
Gvaz
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(04-30-2012, 09:09 PM)

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#1256

What the fuck I want my Lion!
Wallach
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(04-30-2012, 09:10 PM)

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Originally Posted by mileS: View Post
Speaking of achievements.. there's a few strange ones in TERA. Join 10 guilds, become the leader of 10 guilds. Things like that. That to me isn't something you should be rewarded for, I don't know.
That does sound odd. Are you sure they aren't related to the political system?
Absoludacrous
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(04-30-2012, 09:11 PM)

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Originally Posted by mileS: View Post
Speaking of achievements.. there's a few strange ones in TERA. Join 10 guilds, become the leader of 10 guilds. Things like that. That to me isn't something you should be rewarded for, I don't know.
Yea, I saw those last night, thought they were really strange. Leading 10 guilds doesn't really sound like an achievement you should be proud of.
mileS
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#1259

Originally Posted by Wallach: View Post
That does sound odd. Are you sure they aren't related to the political system?
Not sure if there's a separate achievement tab for that or not. These are under the social achievements though. Where I found the friendly title and what not.


Originally Posted by Absoludacrous: View Post
Yea, I saw those last night, thought they were really strange. Leading 10 guilds doesn't really sound like an achievement you should be proud of.
Yea I agree, but it unlocks a title so I bet people will be working towards it. I think it was "Born Leader" or something like that.
Projectjustice
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(04-30-2012, 09:14 PM)

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#1260

Wow the White Lion!!!!!

Last edited by Projectjustice; 04-30-2012 at 09:21 PM.
DMPrince
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(04-30-2012, 09:22 PM)

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#1261

Originally Posted by Visceir: View Post
Might be an odd question but why do people care about achievements? Do you actually benefit from them somehow?
You get titles and items . There's a mount with an achievement i think
Gvaz
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(04-30-2012, 09:22 PM)

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#1262

VoT died, lol
BlazingDarkness
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(04-30-2012, 09:23 PM)

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#1263

Got it and then got disconnected
Now it's hanging before the server page (blank screen) boo
Unknown Soldier
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(04-30-2012, 09:26 PM)

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#1264

Aahahahaha all servers crashed.

As MMOG launches go, this one's going exactly according to keikaku.
vitaminwateryum
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(04-30-2012, 09:26 PM)

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#1265

>:(
Visceir
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(04-30-2012, 09:26 PM)

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#1266

The CR dungeon was messed up on VoT, 20 second+ lag :(

Hope it's fixed when it comes back up
Projectjustice
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(04-30-2012, 09:26 PM)

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#1267

Looks like the White Lion also has a speed of 280, faster than the White Stallion and Bay Gelding mounts.
ROBOKITTYZILLA
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(04-30-2012, 09:28 PM)

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#1268

If you're getting a blank screen when entering the game, close the launcher and restart. Severs still down, of course, but at least they are visible again.
DMPrince
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(04-30-2012, 09:30 PM)

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#1269

I hope it wont come back until I'm home. Want to get a few hours in before sleep.
BlazingDarkness
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(04-30-2012, 09:31 PM)

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#1270

Originally Posted by DMPrince: View Post
I hope it wont come back until I'm home. Want to get a few hours in before sleep.
Don't worry, I ain't going anywhere without you :D

don't crash D;
Tendo
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(04-30-2012, 09:36 PM)

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#1271

Guys. Hey guys. I'm torn - archer and sorcerer - any quick pro's/cons? Are they even worthwhile?
we.are.the.armada
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(04-30-2012, 09:40 PM)

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#1272

Hey Dragonfall just dropped on me. I was doing a BAM too, hopefully I'm not a corpse when I log back in.
Arksy
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(04-30-2012, 09:44 PM)

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#1273

Originally Posted by Tendo: View Post
Guys. Hey guys. I'm torn - archer and sorcerer - any quick pro's/cons? Are they even worthwhile?
Both are good for different reasons.

Sorcs have good damage and pretty much every spell of theirs is an AoE effect. Archers have really good single target damage but are lacking in the AoE department, they have AoE but only about 3 abilities. Sorc requires a bit more skill to play effectively because you have to be able to gauge ranges better as most of your spells have a defined 'hit' area. I.e magma bomb always hits within a range of 7-12 meters. Archers on the other hand are probably one of the easiest classes to play. Both are good for solo. I don't know about pvp but i hear Archers are tough as hell. At the end of the day Sorcs have a higher damage output in PVE and have better AoE but are far more difficult to play.
Einbroch
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(04-30-2012, 09:45 PM)

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#1274

"Hey guys, buy our game while our servers are crashing"
jiien
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(04-30-2012, 09:45 PM)

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#1275

Originally Posted by BlazingDarkness: View Post
Don't worry, I ain't going anywhere without you :D

don't crash D;
I'm waiting for you too, Charles.

Originally Posted by Tendo: View Post
Guys. Hey guys. I'm torn - archer and sorcerer - any quick pro's/cons? Are they even worthwhile?
Compared to Sorc, Archer is equivalent or better at PVP, worse at PVE. Sorcs are considered one of the highest damaging classes in PVE content, and get incredible AoE potential. Archers are pretty good at soloing BAMs, but they tend to fall a shorter on the damage-done scale compared to Sorcs (in raids, that is). I would say mobility is about the same between the two. The biggest deal with Archers is the fact that to do the most damage, they must be within 6m of the target. That is really close. The Archer is far more a mid-range class than a typical Archer might be. It definitely takes some practice to do that.

Both classes are definitely worthwhile, and as with any class in this game, with skill, a 5 man run through a dungeon can be made of nearly any class combination. If I were you, I'd try both and see which play style you like more.

Also, go to the official forums and check out the guides for Archer/Sorc. Avoid looking at anything on the cesspool that is the official forum, but the guides might give you a good idea of what skills they get and sort of how they play.
ROBOKITTYZILLA
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#1276

Originally Posted by Einbroch: View Post
"Hey guys, buy our game while our servers are crashing"
lol
_tetsuo_
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#1277

My account is fixed, but now I can't queue into VoT :-/
Visceir
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(04-30-2012, 09:46 PM)

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#1278

Originally Posted by Tendo: View Post
Guys. Hey guys. I'm torn - archer and sorcerer - any quick pro's/cons? Are they even worthwhile?
Sorcs are all about area damage, will be best damage dealers in the end and should find parties somewhat easily.

Archers have more focused damage. I've always had a soft spot for bow-classes but from everything I've seen and read they seem a tad underpowered. Will probably take more skill to play too, especially in pvp.
jiien
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(04-30-2012, 09:47 PM)

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#1279

According to the server status page, all the non-PVP servers are up.

Edit: Except for the new one, Feral Valley. I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE EME

Another edit: Nope, they're all down again.
ROBOKITTYZILLA
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(04-30-2012, 09:48 PM)

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#1280

Originally Posted by jiien: View Post
According to the server status page, all the non-PVP servers are up.

Edit: Except for the new one, Feral Valley. I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE EME
All down now.
Projectjustice
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(04-30-2012, 09:49 PM)

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#1281

Originally Posted by Einbroch: View Post
"Hey guys, buy our game while our servers are crashing"
Hey guys, I never played a MMO before.
QisTopTier
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#1282

Well time to watch accel world I guess while I wait
Originally Posted by Projectjustice: View Post
Hey guys, I never played a MMO before.
LOOOOOL
Unknown Soldier
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(04-30-2012, 09:51 PM)

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#1283

Originally Posted by Einbroch: View Post
"Hey guys, buy our game while our servers are crashing"
People always seem to forget that WoW literally didn't work for a week after launch.
Einbroch
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(04-30-2012, 09:51 PM)

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#1284

Originally Posted by Projectjustice: View Post
Hey guys, I never played a MMO before.
I was poking fun at the fact that they were telling people where to buy the game on Twitter because the store/servers are down.

But yeah I'm super pissed. I might flip a table. Maybe even a magazine rack, since they said Gamestop has it.


Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier: View Post
People always seem to forget that WoW literally didn't work for a week after launch.
And people that say this also forget that that was eight years ago. We're in 2012. The genre has matured. Infrastructures have changed. This stuff should be ironed out. I ain't mad, but that excuse is kinda a weak one.
Tendo
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(04-30-2012, 09:52 PM)

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#1285

Originally Posted by Arksy: View Post
Both are good for different reasons.

Sorcs have good damage and pretty much every spell of theirs is an AoE effect. Archers have really good single target damage but are lacking in the AoE department, they have AoE but only about 3 abilities. Sorc requires a bit more skill to play effectively because you have to be able to gauge ranges better as most of your spells have a defined 'hit' area. I.e magma bomb always hits within a range of 7-12 meters. Archers on the other hand are probably one of the easiest classes to play. Both are good for solo. I don't know about pvp but i hear Archers are tough as hell. At the end of the day Sorcs have a higher damage output in PVE and have better AoE but are far more difficult to play.

Originally Posted by jiien: View Post
I'm waiting for you too, Charles.



Compared to Sorc, Archer is equivalent or better at PVP, worse at PVE. Sorcs are considered one of the highest damaging classes in PVE content, and get incredible AoE potential. Archers are pretty good at soloing BAMs, but they tend to fall a shorter on the damage-done scale compared to Sorcs (in raids, that is). I would say mobility is about the same between the two. The biggest deal with Archers is the fact that to do the most damage, they must be within 6m of the target. That is really close. The Archer is far more a mid-range class than a typical Archer might be. It definitely takes some practice to do that.

Both classes are definitely worthwhile, and as with any class in this game, with skill, a 5 man run through a dungeon can be made of nearly any class combination. If I were you, I'd try both and see which play style you like more.

Also, go to the official forums and check out the guides for Archer/Sorc. Avoid looking at anything on the cesspool that is the official forum, but the guides might give you a good idea of what skills they get and sort of how they play.
Thanks! I'm going to make a panda sorc then. I don't really care for PVP and like doing group things so it seems sorc is the way to go!
Edvardelis
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(04-30-2012, 09:52 PM)

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#1286

Originally Posted by Tendo: View Post
Guys. Hey guys. I'm torn - archer and sorcerer - any quick pro's/cons? Are they even worthwhile?
Archer is like Berserker, a lot of charge moves. Has very little AoE until really late though a lot of attacks pierce straight ahead, like a Lancer.

Sorcerer has one charge move, but a lot of spells have minimum distance requirements and the more powerful ones are either really slow moving or have long cast times. Also the squishiest class in the game, since you wear cloth and have zero healing ability. Has a large number of different spells with different cooldowns, maximizing damage is about managing them.

Edit:
When fighting BAMs 10 to 12 meters out is the optimal range. You can stretch it a little, but that runs the risk of your heavy hitters being more likely to miss if the boss moves.
vitaminwateryum
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(04-30-2012, 09:54 PM)

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#1287

Some servers are up, including Dragonfall. VoT is still down though.

"This server is currently full. Please try a different server."

Da fuq you talkin' about Tera?
Last edited by vitaminwateryum; 04-30-2012 at 09:59 PM.
Projectjustice
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#1288

It does suck that these things happen but its part of the growing pains of a MMO. The market has mature but the problems are still there due to the nature of this business.
Saften
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(04-30-2012, 09:58 PM)

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#1289

VoT is up
Arpeggio23
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(04-30-2012, 10:04 PM)
#1290

Originally Posted by Einbroch: View Post
And people that say this also forget that that was eight years ago. We're in 2012. The genre has matured. Infrastructures have changed. This stuff should be ironed out. I ain't mad, but that excuse is kinda a weak one.
It was a weak excuse even in 2004. Mass-market AAA MMOs had already been on the market for 7 years at that point (beginning with Ultima Online's release in 1997).
NeOak
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(04-30-2012, 10:11 PM)

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Originally Posted by Einbroch: View Post
And people that say this also forget that that was eight years ago. We're in 2012. The genre has matured. Infrastructures have changed. This stuff should be ironed out. I ain't mad, but that excuse is kinda a weak one.
Originally Posted by Arpeggio23: View Post
It was a weak excuse even in 2004. Mass-market AAA MMOs had already been on the market for 7 years at that point (beginning with Ultima Online's release in 1997).
Yes, because making an MMO is soooo easy.
BlazingDarkness
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(04-30-2012, 10:13 PM)

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#1292

Awwwyeahhhh


Gvaz
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(04-30-2012, 10:16 PM)

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#1293

Unknown Soldier whats your in game name
Haly
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(04-30-2012, 10:16 PM)

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They have a point though.

Troubled release after troubled release, you'd think companies would start to notice a trend in MMO launches and take steps to make sure that their infrastructure are ready to handle what come may.

Because if there's one thing that's been proven time and time again, it's that there are always more players than you expect who will want to play your game.
Paprikka
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(04-30-2012, 10:17 PM)

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#1295

Looks like VoT went down again, such a tease.
jiien
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(04-30-2012, 10:17 PM)

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#1296

Pretty sure VoT is back down. Can't chat in any channel.
vitaminwateryum
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(04-30-2012, 10:17 PM)

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#1297

Ok. For real?
BlazingDarkness
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(04-30-2012, 10:18 PM)

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#1298

VoT is down again
Unknown Soldier
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(04-30-2012, 10:18 PM)

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Originally Posted by Haly: View Post
They have a point though.

Troubled release after troubled release, you'd think companies would start to notice a trend in MMO launches and take steps to make sure that their infrastructure are ready to handle what come may.

Because if there's one thing that's been proven time and time again, it's that there are always more players than you expect who will want to play your game.
The problem is that a minimum of ~50% of players quit after the first free month. Investing in too much infrastructure now is always bad down the road. See TORtanic for further information.