[k_Reign]

I wonder who the third female character will be? I'm going to be perusing those PG hints again sometime tonight. Why don't we start poking at those, or has that already happened several pages back? It's hard to keep track of the threads these days (as someone else mentioned) with there being three PSABR threads :\

TheMink is insistent that his source said that Lightning was in the game, so I think we are all kind of anticipating that. Kat is also still a possibility. Other than those 2...I can't think of anyone but I didn't think Spike or Sir Dan or anyone would make it in. So it could be anyone, hahah.

[Fancy Corndog]

There's also supposed to be an RPG character.

It's almost certainly Lightning IMO. :/

[Man-is-Obsolete]

KAT KAT KAT KAT KAT!!!

I don't even care what her moveset is I will make it work for my main.

[JStein0222]

What would you guys think of alt costumes of characters of different games? Like Replacing Radec with a shooter character of another game through a costume?
I only mention Radec because I can barely see the difference between him normally and his pre-order costume

[Acquiescence]

Please stop talking about Lightning guys - it's getting me down :(

[Drencrom]

Kat will probably be added as DLC just because of all the commotion about her here on GAF lol

[Schobeleth]

I seriously hope it isn't Lightning :\ What if.... it really is Jennifer Tate O_O I've always been meh about Lightning and the FF XIII games, they always felt generic to me I dunno why.

[Fancy Corndog]

I seriously hope it isn't Lightning :\ What if.... it really is Jennifer Tate O_O I've always been meh about Lightning and the FF XIII games, they always felt generic to me I dunno why.

Not to mention Lightning is pretty much the absolute least 'PS All-Star' Final Fantasy character imaginable, but that's how it's gonna be lol. At least she'll probably play well.

[k_Reign]

I'm very much looking forward to Lightning if it is her...there are people on both sides of the fence and most of the people online are on the side that doesn't like her, but a lot of people do like her. She'll almost definitely be my main unless Dante ends up playing amazingly (don't doubt it).

[Tagg9]

Kat will probably be added as DLC just because of all the commotion about her here on GAF lol

I don't think that Gaf necessarily represents the entire gaming public. I imagine there are more popular characters who they could make more money on with DLC. Of course, I'd certainly buy Kat. :D

[Drencrom]

I don't think that Gaf necessarily represents the entire gaming public. I imagine there are more popular characters who they could make more money on with DLC. Of course, I'd certainly buy Kat. :D

Me too, all though I'm already planning on getting all the DLC (as long it isn't crap). Maybe Superbot can sucker in Activision with hope of DLC money to get their hands on Crash :p

[Cisce]

I don't think that Gaf necessarily represents the entire gaming public. I imagine there are more popular characters who they could make more money on with DLC. Of course, I'd certainly buy Kat. :D

I'd buy Kat too, after playing the Gravity Rush demo I have a feeling that she could work quite well in this game with her unique play style. It'd be extremely fun to be able to manipulate your character's gravity in a game like this.

[Mik_Pad]

Does anyone know how many alt Costumes will there be per character?

[Mik_Pad]

What would you guys think of alt costumes of characters of different games? Like Replacing Radec with a shooter character of another game through a costume? I only mention Radec because I can barely see the difference between him normally and his pre-order costume

I think they could replace him with another helghan trooper that would work I think.

[Noi]

@LoudNinja - You can take me off the list. A friend of mine did me a solid and gave me his beta code, so I can join the cool kids over in the other thread. \o/

Kat will probably be added as DLC just because of all the commotion about her here on GAF lol

If this was the case, a certain female character would be first in line to join the game.

[SSReborn]

Alright, I'ma need more of these!

Of Nariko or just in general?

[Figboy79]

Otacon could've been such an awesome Minion... :( That or Ocelot!

And when he's K.O'd, he goes, "You're...pretty good!" *faint*

Oh, Ocelot. Such a tool.

I wish Big Boss was the MGS rep instead of Raiden. His CQC would have made fights against characters like Heihachi really awesome.

Damn, I can't wait to get home from work. I want more time with the beta!

[flippymittens]

Man Raiden is going be very awesome.

People complain that Raiden looks like a female despite being nearly the same frame as Snake in terms of muscle.

Also Snake is built very much like a model as well. Isn't Snake based on Kurt Russell?

I never really got the Raiden hate because without him 2 would not have been as good imo (well they could have had any other character as long as it was new imo but keeping with snake would have messed it up).

Also why hate Lightning for the game not being exclusive to Playstation.

Only FFIX, X, and XII are exclusives of the main entries.

[Fancy Corndog]

People complain that Raiden looks like a female despite being nearly the same frame as Snake in terms of muscle. Also Snake is built very much like a model as well. Isn't Snake based on Kurt Russell? I never really got the Raiden hate because without him 2 would not have been as good imo (well they could have had any other character as long as it was new imo but keeping with snake would have messed it up). Also why hate Lightning for the game not being exclusive to Playstation. Only FFIX, X, and XII are exclusives of the main entries.

FFVII is definitely a "PlayStation game" even if there was a PC port. That's like saying Master Chief isn't an Xbox character. It's about the characters' relevance to PlayStation, not about whether or not we like the character. I'm surprised people don't understand the backlash here.

It's PS All-Stars and it has games that haven't even come out yet, are going to be multiplatform, and in Lightning's case specifically represent a PlayStation 'failure'.

[Gorillaz]

Kat will probably be added as DLC just because of all the commotion about her here on GAF lol

I thought the same. I wouldn't be surprised if Lightning is pushed more due to the fact people on gaf want her....hell yea

[SSReborn]

FFVII is definitely a "PlayStation game" even if there was a PC port. That's like saying Master Chief isn't an Xbox character. It's about the characters' relevance to PlayStation, not about whether or not we like the character. I'm surprised people don't understand the backlash here. It's PS All-Stars and it has games that haven't even come out yet, are going to be multiplatform, and in Lightning's case specifically represent a PlayStation 'failure'.

So is it a name issue? If it was called PS Battle Frenzy instead would there would be no issues? Just trying to understand if people are taking The "All Stars" part more literal then they probably should be doing.

[k_Reign]

FFVII is definitely a "PlayStation game" even if there was a PC port. That's like saying Master Chief isn't an Xbox character. It's about the characters' relevance to PlayStation, not about whether or not we like the character. I'm surprised people don't understand the backlash here. It's PS All-Stars and it has games that haven't even come out yet, are going to be multiplatform, and in Lightning's case specifically represent a PlayStation 'failure'.

Failure? Why do they think they keep pushing their newest franchise and then make a second one as well? FF XIII is one of the highest-selling games on the Playstation 3, and that doesn't even take the 360 version into account. It sold around 2.89 million copies on the PS3, and then XIII-2 sold over 500,000 copies in its first week. You don't get those numbers from a failure, that's for sure.

A lot of people may dislike Lightning, but it's hard to argue that they are not very high-quality games. Like I've said before, a LOT of people do like Lightning. She's my favorite FF character. But a lot of people here don't and a lot of people that discuss games online don't, and so that's really the only viewpoint you're going to see and anyone that goes against it is stupid by most peoples' terms.

So is it a name issue? If it was called PS Battle Frenzy instead would there would be no issues? Just trying to understand if people are taking The "All Stars" part more literal then they probably should be doing.

This is also very true...characters can certainly be added because they add something from a gameplay point of view. Which, when you get right down to it, is the most important part.

EDIT: I think this site, GameFaqs, and the PS Community are some of the only sites that take a title so literally, hahah. Which I think is funny in a good way. I'm just mad about this whole debate, don't mind me

[Fancy Corndog]

So is it a name issue? If it was called PS Battle Frenzy instead would there would be no issues? Just trying to understand if people are taking The "All Stars" part more literal then they probably should be doing.

If it was called 'Title Fight' it would be okay, which is probably relevant.

But it's not the name so much as the intention. PS All-Stars is obviously meant to insinuate that the game is a PlayStation mascot brawler.

[jtir123]

If it was called 'Title Fight' it would be okay, which is probably relevant.

Title FIght sounds like a boxing game. Glad they changed it.

[The_Hitcher89]

Lightning isn't the problem, its the character she's potentially taking the place of. Big Daddy is fine,because its not as though there's anyone else in BioShock who would be better, whether you think BioShock should be represented or not. But then we've got Lightning taking the place of Cloud, Raiden taking the place of Snake and Dante taking the place of Dante.

That's a bit annoying for me. Those are 3 legendary Playstation characters who have been usurped and confined to the sidelines by more contemporary characters regardless of superior brand-relationship, fan reception and reputation

[flippymittens]

FFVII is definitely a "PlayStation game" even if there was a PC port. That's like saying Master Chief isn't an Xbox character. It's about the characters' relevance to PlayStation, not about whether or not we like the character. I'm surprised people don't understand the backlash here. It's PS All-Stars and it has games that haven't even come out yet, are going to be multiplatform, and in Lightning's case specifically represent a PlayStation 'failure'.

Well Halo games on 360 are exclusives.
If a game is released for PC in the same generation is it really an "exclusive"?

I am just saying FFVII and VIII were not exclusives in their gen either. Also FFVII sold around 10 million while VIII sold around 8 million.

IX generally recieved better review scores however. I would argue X is better recieved to given the larger pool of reviews and similar scores (it has 70ish reviews while FFVII has 30ish).

XIII is the latest released game though and isn't XIII on 360 a port (it is still playable though and basically the same game just like FFVIII and FFVII on PC).

[k_Reign]

If it was called 'Title Fight' it would be okay, which is probably relevant. But it's not the name so much as the intention. PS All-Stars is obviously meant to insinuate that the game is a PlayStation mascot brawler.

I don't mean to keep picking on you, but there's no reason you can't include characters that don't "represent Playstation" as strongly as first-party characters. Hell, even characters such as Isaac Clarke, a little sister, Lightning, Ghost, a random soldiers showed up on the Michael commercial.

Every single character that has shown up on Playstation in any way, shape or form are relevant to Playstation owners, and isn't that really the most important part? People that play or have played games on their Playstation are the ones that are being focused on by this game, and I think that should include people that have only played Final Fantasy 13 or Bioshock or some other third party game on their Playstation and the people that WILL play DmC or Metal Gear Rising on theirs during PS All Stars' lifespan. That word looks really weird now... "Playstation"

Anyway, I don't think that it's fair to exclude great characters because they show up on more than one console. They had a strong presence on the Playstation, and that should be all that matters when determining whether or not someone is "worthy" for Playstation.

[Fancy Corndog]

Well Halo games on 360 are exclusives.

Yeah but Master Chief has appeared on PC, so he's not an Xbox character according to the logic you're using.

I'm not saying FFVII didn't get a PC port, I'm saying that Cloud is a huge part of PlayStation and can legitimately be considered a mascot for the brand. Just like Crash and Spyro, even though 'Spyro' has appeared in other places since then

Anyway, I don't think that it's fair to exclude great characters because they show up on more than one console. They had a strong presence on the Playstation, and that should be all that matters when determining whether or not someone is "worthy" for Playstation.

It's not that they're not worthy or anything like that, it's that the whole point of a mascot brawler is the novelty of bashing mascots up against each other. It's especially unnerving with DmC Dante, MGR Raiden, BioShock: Inifnite stage, and potentially Lightning. It just feels like promotion instead of fan service. And fan service is really supposed to be the point.

[TheMink]

Lightning isn't the problem, its the character she's potentially taking the place of. Big Daddy is fine,because its not as though there's anyone else in BioShock who would be better, whether you think BioShock should be represented or not. But then we've got Lightning taking the place of Cloud, Raiden taking the place of Snake and Dante taking the place of Dante. That's a bit annoying for me. Those are 3 legendary Playstation characters who have been usurped and confined to the sidelines by more contemporary characters regardless of superior brand-relationship, fan reception and reputation

What would snake do to make him unique compared to say radec, drake. THE REASON Raiden is in this game instead of snake is because Raiden has got actual uniqueness even within the melee fighter realm.
Dont think about the fact Raiden isnt the icon Snake is, think about the fact that Snake would be another kinda long range guy with maybe a rail gun and a sniper and a socom and a tranq and a little CQC. And perhaps a nod to his invisibility tech (oh wait we got an invisibility guy)

If this game had Snake, would you seriously play as him over other characters?

Conversely, Raiden is my most anticipated character thus far. And while ive always been a fan of Raiden, the reason im excited is because he is going to be melee only, crazy fast swordsman. IMO you cant really argue with that.

EDIT: In summary, think about the gameplay.

[k_Reign]

What would snake do to make him unique compared to say radec, drake. THE REASON Raiden is in this game instead of snake is because Raiden has got actual uniqueness even within the melee fighter realm. Dont think about the fact Raiden isnt the icon Snake is, think about the fact that Snake would be another kinda long range guy with maybe a rail gun and a sniper and a socom and a tranq and a little CQC. And perhaps a nod to his invisibility tech (oh wait we got an invisibility guy) If this game had Snake, would you seriously play as him over other characters? Conversely, Raiden is my most anticipated character thus far. And while ive always been a fan of Raiden, the reason im excited is because he is going to be melee only, crazy fast swordsman. IMO you cant really argue with that. EDIT: In summary, think about the gameplay.

Well, you could, but you'd get your body sliced into a hundred pieces before you finished your argument :p

[jtir123]

What would snake do to make him unique compared to say radec, drake. THE REASON Raiden is in this game instead of snake is because Raiden has got actual uniqueness even within the melee fighter realm. Dont think about the fact Raiden isnt the icon Snake is, think about the fact that Snake would be another kinda long range guy with maybe a rail gun and a sniper and a socom and a tranq and a little CQC. And perhaps a nod to his invisibility tech (oh wait we got an invisibility guy) If this game had Snake, would you seriously play as him over other characters? Conversely, Raiden is my most anticipated character thus far. And while ive always been a fan of Raiden, the reason im excited is because he is going to be melee only, crazy fast swordsman. IMO you cant really argue with that.

That, and likely, Snake will play a role in some way, playable or not. I'm sure there'd be tons of nods to many games...not good 'nuff for some of you guys? C'mon...

[Figboy79]

Personally, I love Lightning, and I REALLY liked FFXIII. I personally don't get all the hate for it. It had a cool battle system, gorgeous visuals, and an intriguing story that didn't feel like the typical, cliche JRPG trash that's sucking the life out of the genre.

Lightning was awesome, and she was also really kickass in Dissidia 012. She had some fantastic moves.

If I had a choice, I'd choose Lightning over Cloud. But I'd choose Tifa over Lightning. Tifa was incredibly badass in Dissidia 012, she's tied to FFVII, which in inarguably one of the most influential titles for the PlayStation, and, you know, boobs. She'd be great. Her punches and kicks and supers could be incredible.

BUUUUUT we all know it's Lightning, and I'm personally not upset about it.

Also, am I the only one that's seen and played the new DmC at E3? Aside from Dante's look, the game looked and felt like DMC. The action was fast and fun. It maybe wasn't as super fast as the classic Dante titles, but it was surprisingly cool, and I went into it with the utmost skepticism. I understand shitting on him because of his looks, but his moves are pure Dante.

Also, one of his super forms in the game turns him into a red coat wearing, white hair having badass, so they at least acknowledge/honor his classic look.

[Loudninja]

Snake would probably play more like Sweet tooth with some added CQC.

[Schobeleth]

FFVII is definitely a "PlayStation game" even if there was a PC port. That's like saying Master Chief isn't an Xbox character. It's about the characters' relevance to PlayStation, not about whether or not we like the character. I'm surprised people don't understand the backlash here. It's PS All-Stars and it has games that haven't even come out yet, are going to be multiplatform, and in Lightning's case specifically represent a PlayStation 'failure'.

This this this. Superbot has said this from the beginning - this is a celebration of Playstation. Alright, well why are we getting bullshit like (saying it again..) Dino, Big Daddy (and the Columbia level) and Raiden over characters that scream Playstation like Snake, Big Boss or the others mentioned? We're getting two characters who are being promoted in games that aren't even out yet and are multiplatform, exactly what I was trying to say.

One of the reasons why a lot of people hate Lightning is that very same reason - a long time exclusive that represents the series fall from grace for a lot of fans as well as it's falling out of Playstation exclusivity. The franchise may not have started on Playstation, but it definitely got huge on Playstation with VII. Depending on who you talk to, the last great FF game was anything between IX to XII, and it ended there.

I just don't like how they kept emphasizing that the game is a celebration of Playstation, Playstation's answer to SSB in other words, and yet we're getting cheesy third party cash ins already, before DLC or a sequel -_-

[TheMink]

Well, you could, but you'd get your body sliced into a hundred pieces before you finished your argument :p

A curious metaphor, as Raiden can outslice anyone ;)


EDIT: and im not saying people have to like Raiden, but the reason why they chose him over snake is quite obvious from a gameplay standpoint if you ask me.

Remember? SuperBot said it themselves, they look at how a character can play OVER how popular they are.

[SmithnCo]

Also, one of his super forms in the game turns him into a red coat wearing, white hair having badass, so they at least acknowledge/honor his classic look.

Yeah, that'll be one of his supers in this for sure. And hopefully they'll change it to classic Devil Trigger for a classic Dante alt if there is one.

[The_Hitcher89]

What would snake do to make him unique compared to say radec, drake. THE REASON Raiden is in this game instead of snake is because Raiden has got actual uniqueness even within the melee fighter realm. Dont think about the fact Raiden isnt the icon Snake is, think about the fact that Snake would be another kinda long range guy with maybe a rail gun and a sniper and a socom and a tranq and a little CQC. And perhaps a nod to his invisibility tech (oh wait we got an invisibility guy) If this game had Snake, would you seriously play as him over other characters? Conversely, Raiden is my most anticipated character thus far. And while ive always been a fan of Raiden, the reason im excited is because he is going to be melee only, crazy fast swordsman. IMO you cant really argue with that. EDIT: In summary, think about the gameplay.

As I've said before, I am a little indifferent about Raiden being babove Snake for precisely the reasons you've used there. But when he's not the only 'second choice' on the rostor, things get a little bit disheartening.

[baekshi]

PS exclusive character?

[Loudninja]

Yeah, that'll be one of his supers in this for sure. And hopefully they'll change it to classic Devil Trigger for a classic Dante alt if there is one.

Yeah that sounds about right.

[Schobeleth]

PS exclusive character?

Who knows if this is even exclusive anymore, something I've always feared as a fan of this project. I just want them to finish the damn thing and even I am starting to think they'll go multiplat to recoup their insane amount of development time and costs. At this rate we'll get another lame cash in for the third female entry, not someone that makes you think Playstation. I'm still holding out hope that we get some awesome surprises like Musashi or Rudy from Wild Arms, but who knows.

[k_Reign]

Regarding SE "betraying" Sony on the non-exclusivity...is it really a bad thing for MORE people to play a franchise you really enjoy? In an open-minded world, that's a great thing.

About Dante - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeg_X...ailpage#t=175s the gameplay looks great, really.

Did anyone REALLY think they were gonna get their dream roster? They have to put in characters for a LOT of different people and some people like different characters. We don't see a ton of opinions on this little internet of ours. You really can't forget that.

I don't see why people have to be so hateful towards things that are not even personally related to them.

[TheMink]

As I've said before, I am a little indifferent about Raiden being babove Snake for precisely the reasons you've used there. But when he's not the only 'second choice' on the rostor, things get a little bit disheartening.

Ah i see your point then.

(i do agree with you about lightning XD, dont hate her, just reeeeeally like cloud.)

But on that subject, it doesnt really bother me that lightning is in over cloud because i have other characters that i will absolutely love playing as.

[Fancy Corndog]

Regarding SE "betraying" Sony on the non-exclusivity...is it really a bad thing for MORE people to play a franchise you really enjoy? In an open-minded world, that's a great thing.

I don't know who said it's 'betraying' or even said it's a bad thing in the grand scheme of things, but it's definitely a bad thing for PlayStation- which is what the game is supposed to be about.

At this point we're arguing over whether or not "PlayStation All-Stars" should even be about PlayStation characters, which I think is ridiculous. The roster is disappointing and many of the characters are out-of-place, I think that's a fair assessment. The game is fun and I'll be getting it. Characters like DmC Dante, Raiden, and Lightning will probably feel good, sure. But the game seems to have done a pretty poor job at living up to the novelty for which it exists.

It's like an MMO that can't connect to the network. Maybe the UI is really nice, and the game is really pretty and you're able to run and talk to NPCs. Maybe you have fun with it, fine. But it's worth talking about the elephant in the room, which is the fact that it's not even an MMO anymore.

Personally, I'm content with the 'proper' characters on the roster because of how damn well the game plays. It's the totally out-of-place promotion, and knowing that first party characters (assuming it's not possible to acquire a third party character that makes sense) could be there in its place that irks me.

[TheMink]

I don't know who said it's 'betraying' or even said it's a bad thing in the grand scheme of things, but it's definitely a bad thing for PlayStation- which is what the game is supposed to be about.

And ultimately, i just think people expected them to choose characters exclusive to playstation.
And so these characters are a surprise to those that thought that.

[jtir123]

Lets lay this out. Kind of sick of these pointless arguments about cash-ins and stuff without legitimate support other than personal opinion. Some people in here are just really jumping the gun. No patience and chock full of ignorance.

Big Daddy and Columbia: Ken Levine PERSONALLY went to them and got them in, AND he assisted in writing the story for it too, as well as worked with them on movesets. He went the extra mile--why shouldn't they be in this game after that? I know, lets turn him down and not include a great character, an awesome looking stage, and ruin relationships while we're at it.

Raiden: He has a better moveset potential than Snake, that alone makes him more unique than Snake in the playable cast, PLUS Snake is likely to show up anyways, even if he's not playable, why ISN'T that a good enough nod to such a big icon? MUST they be playable?

Lightning: She's a female character, has great moveset potential, and has an aesthetic that is completely different from the rest of the cast. Cloud is awesome and iconic, but his dark colors don't really brighten up the cast. And what if they end up sticking him in there as an NPC? Will that be enough to satiate this hate? Can't people just wait and see before trashing stuff?

Dante: This is solely an argument over how he looks. There's really NO merit in this argument at all. Has anyone who's trashing DmC personally played it?

[k_Reign]

I don't know who said it's 'betraying' or even said it's a bad thing in the grand scheme of things, but it's definitely a bad thing for PlayStation- which is what the game is supposed to be about.

I remember Lightning making a strong appearance on Playstation, as well as the words "Final" and "Fantasy" show up many times in the history of Playstation...

[flippymittens]

Yeah but Master Chief has appeared on PC, so he's not an Xbox character according to the logic you're using. I'm not saying FFVII didn't get a PC port, I'm saying that Cloud is a huge part of PlayStation and can legitimately be considered a mascot for the brand. Just like Crash and Spyro, even though 'Spyro' has appeared in other places since then It's not that they're not worthy or anything like that, it's that the whole point of a mascot brawler is the novelty of bashing mascots up against each other. It's especially unnerving with DmC Dante, MGR Raiden, BioShock: Inifnite stage, and potentially Lightning. It just feels like promotion instead of fan service. And fan service is really supposed to be the point.

Except Microsoft owns Master Chief... There was a God of War and Ratchet and Clank mobile game but Sony owns the rights to both characters.

FFVII was on PC in the same generation. Alot of people played Bioshock on the PS3... So are they to be denied a character from a game they enjoyed because you want Playstation characters that are not owned by Sony from dead franchises like Tomba just because they were only on Playstation?

Going by Playstation exclusive characters the only FF characters eligible would be from FFIX, X, and XII (although XII had a spin off for the DS).
Cloud was an iconic character for Playstation back in the day the same way Lightning is for playstation today. Both games were available on other platforms but sold well on Playstation.

[k_Reign]

I just want to say I can't wait to play this game with you guys in an awesome tournament kind of thing. I really can't. Ahh I'm so excited.

EDIT: But if you play Fat Princess or Sly, I'm going for you first. I have a feeling the same will be said of Spike...hahah. Apes.

[Razorskin]

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[TheMink]

Lets lay this out. Kind of sick of these pointless arguments about cash-ins and stuff without legitimate support other than personal opinion. Some people in here are just really jumping the gun. No patience and chock full of ignorance. Big Daddy and Columbia: Ken Levine PERSONALLY went to them and got them in, AND he assisted in writing the story for it too, as well as worked with them on movesets. He went the extra mile--why shouldn't they be in this game after that? I know, lets turn him down and not include a great character, an awesome looking stage, and ruin relationships while we're at it. Raiden: He has a better moveset potential than Snake, that alone makes him more unique than Snake in the playable cast, PLUS Snake is likely to show up anyways, even if he's not playable, why ISN'T that a good enough nod to such a big icon? MUST they be playable? Lightning: She's a female character, has great moveset potential, and has an aesthetic that is completely different from the rest of the cast. Cloud is awesome and iconic, but his dark colors don't really brighten up the cast. And what if they end up sticking him in there as an NPC? Will that be enough to satiate this hate? Can't people just wait and see before trashing stuff? Dante: This is solely an argument over how he looks. There's really NO merit in this argument at all. Has anyone who's trashing DmC personally played it?

I agree with that statement 100%

I mean common, he is going to be a freaking BA character even if he wore a bright pink full body spandex suit.