[Satch]

OK, but what?

There is no "reverse racism." It is either racism or it isn't.

[daycru]

There is no "reverse racism." It is either racism or it isn't.

Yup. The black kids who called me "white trash" for having the audacity to share the same slum as them were racist little shits, not "reverse racist" little shits.

[ScOULaris]

Reaching

Precisely what I was thinking. Typical Jezebel article bullshit.

[samus i am]

Like when Elvis made a song about the ghetto.

Fuck Elvis Presley, but that is another topic.

[Count Dookkake]

This has always made my skin crawl. I HATE it when people call things "ghetto". You have no idea what the ghetto is, using that word to describe taping broken things together instead of buying something new is insulting.

Agreed 100%.

Gives me douche chills.

[SoulPlaya]

Like when Elvis made a song about the ghetto.

To be fair, Elvis had it really rough growing up, and interacted often with black people, but I get your point.

Honestly, I think if you were to point this out to many of these "hipsters", they wouldn't care. A lot of them know already that they're being racist.

[Neoriceisgood]

I don't think I quite got the part about TED talks on that other website.

Is it wrong to like TED talks or something now? I know they don't make you an expert,
but it's still interesting stuff they talk about in a lot of cases.

[daw840]

Going to iHop is racist? what.

I must be a Klan member then...

[echoshifting]

I don't think I quite got the part about TED talks on that other website. Is it wrong to like TED talks or something now? I know they don't make you an expert, but it's still interesting stuff they talk about in a lot of cases.

Liking TED talks is not racist. Saying TED talks is "something white people like" is racist, because it implies non-whites do not.

...at least I think that's where she was going with that. It's a very poorly written article.

[polyh3dron]

This has always made my skin crawl. I HATE it when people call things "ghetto". You have no idea what the ghetto is, using that word to describe taping broken things together instead of buying something new is insulting.

meh, from my experience black and latino people say it just as much

[Guerrillas in the Mist]

No mention of white kids calling each other n***a? Yes, that does happen.

But should black kids call each other n***a in the first place?

[daw840]

This has always made my skin crawl. I HATE it when people call things "ghetto". You have no idea what the ghetto is, using that word to describe taping broken things together instead of buying something new is insulting.

What word would you prefer? Trashy? Shitty? I don't see the racism their really.

I have noticed a lot of people using "ghetto-rigged" instead of "n**-rigged" for something that's shittily repaired.

[Songbird]

I closed the tab as soon as I read the inclusion of "acoustic covers of hip hop songs". Fucking seriously?

I usually like Jezebel too.

[marrec]

I closed the tab as soon as I read the inclusion of "acoustic covers of hop hop songs". Fucking seriously? I usually like Jezebel too.

The first example isn't an example of 'ironic racism' or racism as I call it. I think it's more about the author having a personal issue with cute white girls making fun of rap music.

[ryutaro's mama]

First you ask:

What word would you prefer? Trashy? Shitty? I don't see the racism their really.

An then you say:

I have noticed a lot of people using "ghetto-rigged" instead of "n**-rigged" for something that's shittily repaired.

And answer your own question.

[Ezenzer]

I closed the tab as soon as I read the inclusion of "acoustic covers of hop hop songs". Fucking seriously? I usually like Jezebel too.

Funny, I thought that was a great point. I hate that crap. They're all meant to be witty and facetious but it's really not. Why not take it a step farther and dress up like the people they're covering? Hey, add some face paint...

[OpinionatedCyborg]

Acoustic covers of hip hop songs aren't racist, but they are overdone and usually really shitty. Ben Folds did it (and has been covered by many groups: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjNNxnKVEpQ) and now every dumbass with a guitar thinks he can do it too (unfortunately, he has no rhythm or talent writing melodies, so his cover will sound awful).

[Songbird]

The first example isn't an example of 'ironic racism' or racism as I call it. I think it's more about the author having a personal issue with cute white girls making fun of rap music.

But then how does an acoustic cover make fun of a genre outside of deliberate examples I've never heard of? Talk about keeping things exclusive to others, sheesh.

Funny, I thought that was a great point. I hate that crap. They're all meant to be witty and facetious but it's really not. Why not take it a step farther and dress up like the people they're covering? Hey, add some face paint...

I'm not even sure how I can counter that. Just shut down the Radio 1 Live Lounge, it's a step towards minstrel band revivals!

[Jangocube]

Funny, I thought that was a great point. I hate that crap. They're all meant to be witty and facetious but it's really not. Why not take it a step farther and dress up like the people they're covering? Hey, add some face paint...

Doing an acoustic cover of a hip hop song doesn't mean you hate black people.

Lordy, people these days...

[DanteFox]

Nothing on that list is racist. What a dumb article.

[daw840]

First you ask: An then you say: And answer your own question.

Except....that's to utilize a different word. One that is not racist and includes all races.

[lunarworks]

Author of article is white.

No one hates white people like white people.

Move along.


Also, I'm growing offended by the use of the word h****er.

[echoshifting]

Author of article is white. No one hates white people like white people. Move along.

Don't white people suck?

[Chichikov]

whooha dp.

[Chichikov]

This has always made my skin crawl. I HATE it when people call things "ghetto". You have no idea what the ghetto is, using that word to describe taping broken things together instead of buying something new is insulting.

The problem is not the misunderstanding of the context.
I mean, even when people who grew up in the projects refer to them as the ghetto, they're way off the original meaning of the word (which by the way describes something much worse than modern american slums).

The problem is trying to make poverty and hardship seem cool, and that's quite offensive to anyone who grew up that way, though if you ask me, it's only nominally racist.

No one hates white people like white people.

Oh how wrong you are.

Also, I'm growing offended by the use of the word h****er.

I'm trying very hard to not tell you to go fuck yourself.
But I'm failing.

[Songbird]

Author of article is white. No one hates white people like white people. Move along. Also, I'm growing offended by the use of the word h****er.

It's annoying because I remember Lindy West wrote a freaking awesome article that tore apart Sex and the City 2.

Here it is.

[Copernicus]

I'm pretty sure hipster douchebaggery is based on feigned derived from appearing to be from a lower class while still maintaining their privileges and benefits.

I don't find hipsters racist, I find them disingenuous in their attempt to appeared cultured through other people's due-making.

[Neoriceisgood]

Liking TED talks is not racist. Saying TED talks is "something white people like" is racist, because it implies non-whites do not. ...at least I think that's where she was going with that. It's a very poorly written article.

Oh okay.

I had trouble following it, because it was a very poorly written reaction to another very poorly written article, which made it double as confusing.

[Alucrid]

It's annoying because I remember Lindy West wrote a freaking awesome article that tore apart Sex and the City 2. Here it is.

tearing apart a shitty movie is probably easier than what this article aims to do

[Chichikov]

I'm pretty sure hipster douchebaggery is based on feigned interested in pretending to be from a lower class while still maintaining their privileges and benefits. I don't find hipsters racist, I find them disingenuous in their attempt to appeared cultured through other people's due-making.

He didn't claim that all hipsters are racists or that hipestrism = racism.
He's pointing out a bunch of racially offensive things affluent white people do.
And he's spot on on pretty much all of them if you ask me.

[Deified Data]

Article came off as whiny and I read it in an internal nasal voice. Couldn't help it.

Hipsters being annoying? What a pointless article.

[dark10x]

He didn't claim that all hipsters are racists or that hipestrism = racism. He's pointing out a bunch of racially offensive things affluent white people do. And he's spot on on pretty much all of them if you ask me.

I have to wonder if they even REALIZE that they are being racist...which makes me question whether it really is racism in the first place. Seems more like ignorance to me.

[Utako]

There is no "reverse racism." It is either racism or it isn't.

I agree, and reverse racism is racism. The term simply denotes racism specifically toward a racial majority, which has very different societal connotations.

For example, speech regarding caucasians in this thread might have a rather different vibe if it were aimed at a racial minority.

[samus i am]

Simi on topic, this is my favorite cover of a hiphop song by a white girl:
Karmin - Look at me now

[cutmeamango]

Everything is racism and no one is offended, this world secretly rages but only I grind my teeth!

[ryutaro's mama]

Except....that's to utilize a different word. One that is not racist and includes all races.

If people you know people that are swapping "ghetto" for "N**" (as you put it) then you might be able to see why people would get offended when the word "ghetto" is swapped out in other places to paint something in a disparaging light.

[Bo-Locks]

What a shit article. I'm surprised it wasn't on cracked.com

How are indie covers of rap songs racist? Lord knows hip hop artists rip the shit out of other genres with all the covers, remixes, collaborations etc.

[Korey]

Jezebel 1. "Tee-Hee, Aren't I Adorable?" 2. "Recreational Slumming." 3. "Ummm, I'm a Writer and I'm Trying to Write in Here!" 4. "God, Don't White People Suck?" 5. "But it's a JOOOOOKE." 6. "So I'm not allowed to have a genuine interest in another culture?!!?!??!" 7. "Yeah, but we have a black president! Isn't racism over?" While I don't think the list is entirely accurate, I agree with the general sentiment. That grey, not-sure-if-ironic area is annoying and sometimes problematic.

Wow...great article.

[Black Republican]

DJ Drama?

[Copernicus]

He didn't claim that all hipsters are racists or that hipestrism = racism. He's pointing out a bunch of racially offensive things affluent white people do. And he's spot on on pretty much all of them if you ask me.

Basically it's an article about racist actions with a little hipster nomenclature for clickbait.

The first "tee-hee" point has nothing directly to do with racism in the first place. People well off have been pretending to be "hardcore" or coming from a "rough situation" for ages. Assigning an implied race to #thuglife is a little more offensive than someone sarcastically implying their TV sitdown can be equivocated with an afternoon in a hard knock life.

[samus i am]

The problem is not the misunderstanding of the context. I mean, even when people who grew up in the projects refer to them as the ghetto, they're way off the original meaning of the word (which by the way describes something much worse than modern american slums). The problem is trying to make poverty and hardship seem cool, and that's quite offensive to anyone who grew up that way, though if you ask me, it's only nominally racist.

Agreed on all points.

[Chichikov]

I have to wonder if they even REALIZE that they are being racist...which makes me question whether it really is racism in the first place. Seems more like ignorance to me.

I think the vast majority of racist people in this country are not aware of it.
Also, I don't think it's a binary thing - most of us do certain racist (or racial insensitive) things.

I know I do.
Not frequently I hope.
But I try my hardest to not defend my prejudice when I called out on it.

In my personal life, I found it much more effective to tell people "hey, this is a racist/offensive/insensitive thing to say", as opposed to "you're a racist!".
Yeah, it doesn't feel as good, but you can actually affect change.

(I'm obviously speaking about friends and generally not overly bigoted people, I would not extend that courtesy to a member of the KKK).

Everything is racism and no one is offended, this world secretly rages but only I grind my teeth!

Well that settles it.
You are after all speaking for all the minorities in the world.

Basically it's an article about racist actions with a little hipster nomenclature for clickbait.

You're mostly right I think, but it's a really good article, so I'm fine with it.

[Korey]

I never realized the #thuglife thing but it's completely true if you think about it for a few seconds.

Think about how the connotation changes when it's being posted by different types of people.

[FStop7]

I don't really agree with #1.

But #4 I cannot possibly agree with any more. "LOL White People" is the most obnoxious crap.

[AlphaSnake]

This article is the epitome of whining, reaching, and fluffy bullshit. That's not what racism is. People's ideas of racism is becoming worse and worse as the years go by. I know people who are afraid of even using the word "black" no matter in what context. It sounds like the author of this article would applaud those people. Are you fucking kidding me?

Have we really taken so many steps backwards? People need to stop harping on the black and white thing so much. It makes you seem beyond insecure.

[Omegasquash]

Y'know, it mostly makes sense. I still get the feeling in the "thug" part that it's cultural, but I can see where he's coming from. A little more sensitivity and a little less casual.

[echoshifting]

I think the vast majority of racist people in this country are not aware of it. Also, I don't think it's a binary thing - most of us do certain racist (or racial insensitive) things. I know I do. Not frequently I hope. But I try my hardest to not defend my prejudice when I called out on it. In my personal life, I found it much more effective to tell people "hey, this is a racist/offensive/insensitive thing to say", as opposed to "you're a racist!". Yeah, it doesn't feel as good, but you can actually affect change. (I'm obviously speaking about friends and generally not overly bigoted people, I would not extend that courtesy to a member of the KKK).

Well said. I agree with all of this.

Everyone should approach the issue of racism with great humility, a hard thing to do these days. But the fact is none of us are perfectly racially sensitive at all times.

[marrec]

Funny, I thought that was a great point. I hate that crap. They're all meant to be witty and facetious but it's really not. Why not take it a step farther and dress up like the people they're covering? Hey, add some face paint...

Yeesh, don't you think that's going a bit too far? Most acoustic covers of hip-hop music are done as a means of contrast, not because it's meant to be witty. Oh, and why don't they take it a step further and paint their faces? Cause that's racist dumbass.

But then how does an acoustic cover make fun of a genre outside of deliberate examples I've never heard of? Talk about keeping things exclusive to others, sheesh.

No, I agree, but the author of the article threw in acoustic covers with the hashtag #thuglife, which is usually meant in jest and is done because shitty Rap artists do it with as much credibility as Zooey Deshanel(sp).

[Spiffy_1st]

"Isn't it funny how Steve can barely feed his family? This guy knows what I'm talking about!" [points to other janitor]

That was the only part that made me laugh, and it was used as an example of a bad joke.

I'm a typical white middle class male (I'm probably the person this article is complaining about) and I'd describe a place that has some dead flowers in it as a ghetto as a joke, but I didn't know that was racist. So...I'll stop doing that then...

[krypt0nian]

Wow, the writer is a bigger douche than those he's "protesting" about.

He wouldn't know racism if it hit him in his white-guilt ass.