friskykillface
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(04-29-2012, 10:50 PM)

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#101

how does each movie after the Avengers "happen" now?


what i mean is in Iron Man 3, can't Bruce or Captain show up since they are all in the same time and place?


my logic is blown :P and now i would need at least 3 supers in each movie moving forward
TruePrime
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(04-29-2012, 10:55 PM)
#102

Originally Posted by friskykillface: View Post
how does each movie after the Avengers "happen" now?


what i mean is in Iron Man 3, can't Bruce or Captain show up since they are all in the same time and place?


my logic is blown :P and now i would need at least 3 supers in each movie moving forward
Well they all have their own lives and honestly why would the God of Thunder really need for Cap to take care of a baddy or two?

I can see why this would really take away fear of them losing though. You would know that IM, War Machine, Cap, and others are there encase something happens but then when do you ever watch a hero movie and actually think they might lose?
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(04-29-2012, 10:59 PM)

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Originally Posted by TruePrime: View Post
I can see why this would really take away fear of them losing though. You would know that IM, War Machine, Cap, and others are there encase something happens but then when do you ever watch a hero movie and actually think they might lose?
It's a question of stakes, what's at risk. Iron Man 3 is supposedly more of a spy film and is about espionage and viruses and nanomachines and shit. Not exactly stuff that Cap or Thor could help with.
GringoLOCOo
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#104

Do you guys think we well ever see a proper big screen version of Galactus ?

it would be so awesome to see the big G in an Avengers movie at some point.
Hot Coldman
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#105

Originally Posted by GringoLOCOo: View Post
Do you guys think we well ever see a proper big screen version of Galactus ?

it would be so awesome to see the big G in an Avengers movie at some point.
Personally, I think he's M.O.D.O.K. levels of weird. He works excellently in the comics but the tone of the MCU doesn't really let something like Galactus in... unless you want a cloud again.
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#106

In dream land the avengers 2 would have Wolverine, Spiderman and Black Panther joining.

Doctor Doom And Magento as villains for Avengers 3 with cameos from F4 and Xmen
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#107

Originally Posted by Green Scar: View Post
Personally, I think he's M.O.D.O.K. levels of weird. He works excellently in the comics but the tone of the MCU doesn't really let something like Galactus in... unless you want a cloud again.
Really? even after (will SPOILER this time just in case.. but yeah) Thanos?. He looked very much similar to his comic-book persona, however silly it would look on a movie. I think Galactus would be (and will be, probably/hopefully) correctly presented in a MCU movie. The Avengers pretty much showed me that with the right script anything in these comic books can happen movie-wise beyond how cheesy it would look.

Bring it.
Hot Coldman
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#108

Originally Posted by SalsaShark: View Post
Really? even after (will SPOILER this time just in case.. but yeah) Thanos?. He looked very much similar to his comic-book persona, however silly it would look on a movie. I think Galactus would be (and will be, probably/hopefully) correctly presented in a MCU movie. The Avengers pretty much showed me that with the right script anything in these comic books can happen movie-wise beyond how cheesy it would look.

Bring it.
Thanos is alien. Galactus looks like a dude in a daft costume. I'm sorry, I love that guy, but Kirby's designs go to some fucking weird places. I mean, they could give it a shot, but I'm a huge skeptic on Galactus ever being viable for a a live-action film.
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#109

My Hopes for the Avengers 2

Ms Marvel

Black fuckin' Panther

Giant Man & Wasp

Dr. Strange

Moon Knight

and She-Hulk.

EDIT: A3 can have Vision and Scarlet & Quicksilver.
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#110

I think Marvel have got their work cut out for them post Avengers, as much as I love the MCU movies they need to handle the next series of movies right to make sure audiences don't tire of them.

If I were in charge I would amalgamate the Captain America sequel and possible shield movie, it sounds like a disaster, but it makes sense when you think about it. Captain America is a man out of his time, if he had a solo movie there would need to be characters for him to associate with, instead have a sequel start where the avengers left off and have him left working with shield after Thor has gone back to Asgard and Iron Man is off to do extremis stuff. This would also mean you could have the end lead into the avengers sequel the year after.
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Originally Posted by Green Scar: View Post
Thanos is alien. Galactus looks like a dude in a daft costume. I'm sorry, I love that guy, but Kirby's designs go to some fucking weird places. I mean, they could give it a shot, but I'm a huge skeptic on Galactus ever being viable for a a live-action film.
no need for him to be IN YOUR FACE, but at the same time no need for him to be a fucking cloud either of course. Just keep him a bit afar and in the shadows.

do it something along this:



and im happy. To me a version similar to that looks like it could work on a movie.

or they could go with shitty but more realistic Ultimate Alliance Galactus:



but ew
XiaNaphryz
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#112

I posted this in the Avengers thread, a shot from one of the booklets that come with an Avengers Lego set:



Seeing X-Men and Spider-Man figs on the same page as Avengers stuff, has to be an intentional troll since we know we'll never see them all together on the screen aside from figures. :(
Hot Coldman
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Jesus Christ UA Galactus is crap. Can't believe they were gonna put Samus and Link in that game

But the first design is great. I can already see a scene with Iron Man and Thor flying through a storm after Silver Surfer whilst Galactus glares from overhead. OK, I'm back in.
Jezan
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#114

No future projects for Ms. Marvel or the Runaways :(
Please Ms. Marvel in Avengers 2!
GringoLOCOo
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(04-29-2012, 11:29 PM)
#115

Originally Posted by SalsaShark: View Post
no need for him to be IN YOUR FACE, but at the same time no need for him to be a fucking cloud either of course. Just keep him a bit afar and in the shadows.

do it something along this:



and im happy. To me a version similar to that looks like it could work on a movie.

or they could go with shitty but more realistic Ultimate Alliance Galactus:



but ew
I like your idea of keeing him afar in the shadows yet also make him look scary in some sort of way ( and not turn him into a planet eating cloud) so when he pops up on the screen it makes people go OMG HOLY SHIT , i think that could really work on the big screen.
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#116

It pains me that Marvel doesn't have the Fantastic 4's rights. Dr Doom NEEDS to be in the MCU. Silver Surfer too.

Like i said in the Avengers thread, I want to see Thor vs. Surfer IMAX so damn bad.
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#117

Originally Posted by Vega: View Post
It pains me that Marvel doesn't have the Fantastic 4's rights. Dr Doom NEEDS to be in the MCU. Silver Surfer too.

Like i said in the Avengers thread, I want to see Thor vs. Surfer IMAX so damn bad.
Hell what would be even greater would be an HULK Vs Wolverine fight in the MCU :)
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#118

Nah X-Men are fine in their own universe. They never really made much sense to me in the comics anyway.

Why were superheros accepted in the Marvel universe but mutants are hated?
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#119

Originally Posted by SalsaShark: View Post
This would be awesome.
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#120

Originally Posted by Vega: View Post
Nah X-Men are fine in their own universe. They never really made much sense to me in the comics anyway.

Why were superheros accepted in the Marvel universe but mutants are hated?
The government has giant weaponized mechs, but they only use them to find little mutant girls, never for anything like alien invasions or hulk fucking up NY, yep, makes sense.
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#121

Originally Posted by Khezu: View Post
The government has giant weaponized mechs, but they only use them to find little mutant girls, never for anything like alien invasions or hulk fucking up NY, yep, makes sense.
Frank Castle handles that.


Oh how is this for a PG-13 Punisher flick!
Hot Coldman
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#122

In The Avengers, there is a scene where Nick Fury is talking to The Council, and they outright call the Avengers "freaks". So it's not like prejudice would be reserved solely for mutants if the X-Men ever do end up in the MCU.
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#123

Originally Posted by SalsaShark: View Post
no need for him to be IN YOUR FACE, but at the same time no need for him to be a fucking cloud either of course. Just keep him a bit afar and in the shadows.

do it something along this:



and im happy. To me a version similar to that looks like it could work on a movie.

or they could go with shitty but more realistic Ultimate Alliance Galactus:



but ew
This would work great, just don't write him exactly like in the comics. Treat him like a being of a higher level of intelligence that we can't even try to begin to understand and people will shit their pants in the theaters.
shira
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#124

Originally Posted by Mistouze: View Post
This would work great, just don't write him exactly like in the comics. Treat him like a being of a higher level of intelligence that we can't even try to begin to understand and people will shit their pants in the theaters.
Didn't work out so well with Lex. People don't get intelligence.

Needs to be lots of sparkly beam weapons and planet munching
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#125

Considering The Avengers is doing such good business, and the MCU has, thus far, been pretty damn successful, Marvel have a golden opportunity to bring some of their more obscure characters to public appreciation; guys the comics fans will know, but the general public wouldn't.

They've already done this with Iron Man. Yeah, sure, people might vaguely have known the character from vague memories of comics or cartoons, but the movie and Downey Jr.'s performance propelled him to Spider-Man or Superman levels; the man on the street knows Iron Man. The same applies to a lesser extent to Thor and Captain America, and, choosing the right characters, could go further still. Launch franchises with lower-level heroes, and have Downey Jr, Evans or Hemsworth cameo and feature in the marketing.

Oh, and they need to lock Ruffalo down to a meaty, multi-movie contract. The guy's great, both as Banner and the Hulk.
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#126

Originally Posted by Exterminieren: View Post

Oh, and they need to lock Ruffalo down to a meaty, multi-movie contract. The guy's great, both as Banner and the Hulk.
If I remember correctly I believe they have already. It was for either 4 movies or 6. I forget which.
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#127

Originally Posted by SuperEpicMan: View Post
I think Marvel have got their work cut out for them post Avengers, as much as I love the MCU movies they need to handle the next series of movies right to make sure audiences don't tire of them.

If I were in charge I would amalgamate the Captain America sequel and possible shield movie, it sounds like a disaster, but it makes sense when you think about it. Captain America is a man out of his time, if he had a solo movie there would need to be characters for him to associate with, instead have a sequel start where the avengers left off and have him left working with shield after Thor has gone back to Asgard and Iron Man is off to do extremis stuff. This would also mean you could have the end lead into the avengers sequel the year after.
This is the problem people went to see Thor and Captain America because in part they were leading up to the Avengers. Seeing Captain America off on his lonesome in a sequel would not make for a great movie imo. Especially after what happens in Avengers how can he go back to fighting mid tier villains or nazis after a damm alien invasion?

Cap works best as a sometimes uptight blowhard playing off someone like Tony Stark in the modern world.

Quote:
"The story will likely be in the present day. We're experimenting with flashback elements for more period World War II stuff.
They've seriously got their work cut out the Avengers will have changed everyone's expectations as to what these movies should be delivering now.
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#128

Originally Posted by Exterminieren: View Post
Marvel have a golden opportunity to bring some of their more obscure characters to public appreciation; guys the comics fans will know, but the general public wouldn't.
I'd argue that Hawkeye and Black Widow were a good way to test this.
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#129

I am so happy that this is actually a thing and that it actually delivered with The Avengers. The Avengers definitely stepped up the game for all comic book adaptations of this type I feel. Marvel are so set for a long time, at least 6 years, if people never get sick of superhero films. It's like my dream come true with how they're handling and making these comic book adaptations.
It makes what DC are doing with all their properties, except Batman, look incredibly embarrassing.

I'm actually really looking forward to the Captain America sequel and a possible Mark Ruffalo Hulk. Stories about these guys just trying to find their place in the world are really appealing to me. I also hope Thor 2 is as hilarious as the first movie. No need to bring Natalie Portman back though, Thor apparently didn't give enough of a crap about her to even visit her in The Avengers.
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#130

I really hope that the Alias series actually gets made. That is one of my favorite Marvel comic series.

Hard-boiled detective work involving superpowers, and one of the most compelling protagonists in the Marvel universe. It's really fantastic.
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#131

Originally Posted by hamchan: View Post
It's like my dream come true with how they're handling and making these comic book adaptations.
Seriously. I guess this is stated enough but still.

I never would have thought something like this would be possible, specially after the treatment and changes other superheroes got when they were handled by different studios. Exciting times we're living in man. Marvel's rise into the film business feels like their fucking second coming.
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#132

Originally Posted by SalsaShark: View Post
Seriously. I guess this is stated enough but still.

I never would have thought something like this would be possible, specially after the treatment and changes other superheroes got when they were handled by different studios. Exciting times we're living in man. Marvel's rise into the film business feels like their fucking second coming.
Not when your favorite comic gets side fucked for content...that said I won't shit on Marvel's overall handling of their business, but they better hope that the comic cycle doesn't end or at least they have plans for diminished returns and staying diversified.
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#133

One day MARVEL ZOMBIES should happen.

Open with the regular, expensive cast discovering parallel universes, then cut to the cheap DTV cast.

All budget goes to FX.
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#134

Maybe they will do Alpha Flight?



Nah, no one could take a movie where Canada is threaten serious.
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#135

An idea that no one is going to like but me.

The perfect Strange villain would be
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A gang leader under dormammu's control. In exchange for power to rule the streets parker is actively trying to bring big D into the world and strange has to stop him.
It would allow for some crazy magic shit, but still keep the villain somewhat grounded in reality. Have all his standard powers, levitation, invisibility, hellfire bullets, and in the final showdown he can go release dormammu through his body.

Even if bendis ruined him completely, I still think he has potential to be awesome.
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#136

Avengers Academy would be awesome, Boulder would be a new Hulk for the next generation.
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#137

Originally Posted by SalsaShark: View Post
Seriously. I guess this is stated enough but still.

I never would have thought something like this would be possible, specially after the treatment and changes other superheroes got when they were handled by different studios. Exciting times we're living in man. Marvel's rise into the film business feels like their fucking second coming.
Yup, who would have thought we'd see it all come together so fast, too.

People have to step back for a second and appreciate the fact that putting multiple films in the same unified universe and even bringing them together, is something really unprecedented for films.

Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
Avengers Academy would be awesome, Boulder would be a new Hulk for the next generation.
I can see this happening around Avengers 3 as all the actors start getting super old. :lol Runaways would be good, too.

Originally Posted by SalsaShark: View Post
Really? even after (will SPOILER this time just in case.. but yeah) Thanos?. He looked very much similar to his comic-book persona, however silly it would look on a movie. I think Galactus would be (and will be, probably/hopefully) correctly presented in a MCU movie. The Avengers pretty much showed me that with the right script anything in these comic books can happen movie-wise beyond how cheesy it would look.

Bring it.
I don't think we'd ever see Galactus in an Avengers movie, tbh. That's just too F4 centric, where they seem to be focusing on very Avengers-classic villains (Thanos) than someone like Doom, for example.

But the Ult. Gah-Lak-Tus was a pretty neat take on it, although I wasn't a fan, I could see what they were trying to do with it. But speaking of that, who thinks if they did a Vision movie, it would be female?;





This would make more sense, since Vision without his love interest with Scarlet, who is a mutant and thus would never make it into the films (X-Men/fox rights etc), wouldn't be as appealing.

And anyone else think it's going to be a bit weird to have characters like Iron Fist/Luke Cage and others in the Marvel Knights-like category, without having Daredevil? Missed opportunity..

Also, if X-Men ever gets rebooted and not part of the MCU i'm going to be pissed.
shira
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(04-30-2012, 08:40 AM)
#138

Hasn't feige already stated quik/scarlet are double allowed for either Disney/fox
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#139

Originally Posted by Ignis Fatuus: View Post
It's a question of stakes, what's at risk. Iron Man 3 is supposedly more of a spy film and is about espionage and viruses and nanomachines and shit. Not exactly stuff that Cap or Thor could help with.
Sounds horrible.
Originally Posted by Dabanton: View Post
This is the problem people went to see Thor and Captain America because in part they were leading up to the Avengers. Seeing Captain America off on his lonesome in a sequel would not make for a great movie imo. Especially after what happens in Avengers how can he go back to fighting mid tier villains or nazis after a damm alien invasion?

Cap works best as a sometimes uptight blowhard playing off someone like Tony Stark in the modern world.



They've seriously got their work cut out the Avengers will have changed everyone's expectations as to what these movies should be delivering now.
No. I went to watch Thor and Cap America for Thor and Cap America, and not because Avengers movie was coming.

Originally Posted by XiaNaphryz: View Post
I posted this in the Avengers thread, a shot from one of the booklets that come with an Avengers Lego set:



Seeing X-Men and Spider-Man figs on the same page as Avengers stuff, has to be an intentional troll since we know we'll never see them all together on the screen aside from figures. :(
Why is that? Sony and Fox could easily licence these so just they appear in Avengers. They would make a lot of money from Marvel for this.
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#140

Originally Posted by Exterminieren: View Post
Oh, and they need to lock Ruffalo down to a meaty, multi-movie contract. The guy's great, both as Banner and the Hulk.
I maintain that Hulk doesn't lend himself to a solo feature movie. He works best in small, intense doses.

It would be a big mistake to think the positive reaction he got in Avengers will translate over to a 90+min solo movie. It's simply not possible, people don't want to see the internal conflict that Banner through. One where he transforms at will might work, but now we're post Abomination, I can't really think of any villain who could go toe to toe with Hulk and translate to the big screen well.
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Originally Posted by Speedymanic: View Post
I maintain that Hulk doesn't lend himself to a solo feature movie. He works best in small, intense doses.

It would be a big mistake to think the positive reaction he got in Avengers will translate over to a 90+min solo movie. It's simply not possible, people don't want to see the internal conflict that Banner through. One where he transforms at will might work, but now we're post Abomination, I can't really think of any villain who could go toe to toe with Hulk and translate to the big screen well.
Definitely agreed, my thoughts exactly. It could be done in some way or another, but i'd rather him just get mentioned a few times across various MCU movies then make yet another unsuccessful Hulk..
Aegus
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(04-30-2012, 09:20 AM)
#142

Wasn't there supposed to be a Runaways TV series in the works?
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Definitely agreed, my thoughts exactly. It could be done in some way or another, but i'd rather him just get mentioned a few times across various MCU movies then make yet another unsuccessful Hulk..
Yep. They should focus on animated movies/shows for Hulk and perhaps a TV show. A TV show format lends itself well to Hulk, but I'm not sure how they'd link it into post Avengers or if Ruffalo would be interested in doing a TV show.
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#144

This is a bit old but all the more relevant with the Thanos reveal. It's the contents from Odin's vault. http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2011/0...om-odins-vault

If the Gauntlet is still there in the events of Thor 1, it's possible that there could be a post-credits scene in Thor 2 showing Thanos gearing up and stealing it, or alternatively just have the camera zoom in on it disappearing, etc.

Confirmed;

Eternal Flame (top, left) - Mystical flame that cannot be extinguished. It was stolen from Surtur by Odin, Vili, and Ve Borson at the dawn of time so that Surtur could not light his sword and bring about Ragnarok.

Infinity Gauntlet (right) - The Infinity Gauntlet was designed to hold six of the 'soul gems', better known as the Infinity Gems. When used in combination their already impressive powers made the wearer nearly invincible.

Warlock's Eye (bottom, center) - A powerful, mystical weapon used unsuccessfully against Odin, Thor and the Warriors Three during an invasion of Asgard.

Twilight Sword (not pictured) - Created by Surtur using the energy of the exploding home galaxy of the Korbinites, it was intended to set the universe afire. Later used as a power source by Loki & Morgan Le Fay.

Unconfirmed;

Orb of Agamotto (top,left center) - A scrying crystal ball used by Doctor Strange for clairvoyance. It has been known to open gateways between dimensions

Tablet of Life & Time (top, right center) - On the tablet was a biochemical formula for a serum, the so-called Lifeline Formula, which could rejuvinate, heal and grant its user the chance to reach the full evolutionary potential of its race turning the user into an immortal near omnipotent being.

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#145

So the Thanos post credit reveal is legit?

That's actually pretty cool and ever so slightly worrying. Isn't he essentially immortal and godlike? Seems a big step for the team to go from fighting the chitauri army and Loki in 1 to fighting someone like Thanos.

He seems more an end game villain to me, use the sequel to build him up further and have him appear in number 3. That way they can focus on building the team some more (Pym, Wasp, Panther, maybe even Ms Marvel) and then it would be at least believable that they could beat/defeat someone like Thanos.

A sequel introducing Ant-Man/Wasp would be good, if they can't get the solo Ant-Man movie off the ground. Introduce him working on Ultron who then becomes the villain of A2.

Actually, would Ultron translate to the big screen? Might be too Iron Man-esque, but then can they really go down the invasion route again in A2.

Someone mentioned Masters of Evil, that could work out pretty well if they use the solo movies to hype the villains.
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#146

Black Panther needs to be introduced in Cap 2 they can do a flashback to this, a young cap hunting down nazis in africa and to get a sample of vibranium stumbles into Wakanda and Meets Tchaka

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#147

^Never thought of that, awesome prospect. And CA2 isn't till 2014 so it isn't totally impossible to get done. Probably not, though.. but we can dream.
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#148

That would be so great for Cap 2. Though, part of me is just certain that Panther will never make it to the big screen. :\
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Originally Posted by ReiGun: View Post
That would be so great for Cap 2. Though, part of me is just certain that Panther will never make it to the big screen. :\
Panther fits in so nicely with iron man as well with wakanda being such a hi-tech country those two could cross paths and it would'nt be odd to me
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Wasn't there supposed to be a Runaways TV series in the works?
I don't think so. There was a movie that was pretty far along in production (it was supposed to shoot last year for release this year) but Marvel stalled on it.