TheKaeptain
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(07-11-2012, 12:29 AM)

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#5951

You know what? I think Anderson might sub Bones if they fought. Jones has this horrible habit of leaving his arms straight out while in guard.
alr1ght
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(07-11-2012, 12:32 AM)

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#5952

Bisping would be the money fight. Put it England and roll in the money.
Chamber
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(07-11-2012, 01:18 AM)

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#5953

Originally Posted by CaptYamato: View Post
You know what? I think Anderson might sub Bones if they fought. Jones has this horrible habit of leaving his arms straight out while in guard.
I think the obvious style counter for Jones is a BJJ wiz. Of course there are none at 205 so he gets away with his bad habits and he sure has plenty of them but let me back off before I get accused of hating.
FACE
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(07-11-2012, 01:19 AM)

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#5954

If Weidman wins Bisping should fight Belcher for contender status and he should fight the winner of Mak x Hector for the next spot.
parrotbeak
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(07-11-2012, 01:20 AM)

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#5955

Originally Posted by Chamber: View Post
I think the obvious style counter for Jones is a BJJ wiz. Of course there are none at 205 so he gets away with his bad habits and he sure has plenty of them but let me back off before I get accused of hating.


Originally Posted by Pristine_Condition: View Post
Thanks for making me never want to think about sex again on the same day the Rhonda Rousey goods come out, guys...

Fuck you.

Fuck you.

And fuck you.
The Little Eagle soars again!
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Chamber
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(07-11-2012, 01:53 AM)

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#5956

Alan Belcher fights so sparingly that I didn't even realize he was on a 4 fight win streak. 4 wins in 4 years.
Heel
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(07-11-2012, 02:00 AM)

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#5957

Originally Posted by Chamber: View Post
Alan Belcher fights so sparingly that I didn't even realize he was on a 4 fight win streak. 4 wins in 4 years.
Belcher vs. Bisping would be a perfect #1 contender fight for FOX. Great match up.
parrotbeak
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(07-11-2012, 02:00 AM)

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#5958

If only Cung didn't suck, I would love to see him vs Andy. Like if he were good it would be a really interesting match up with the spinning kicks and good wrestling base.
Heel
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(07-11-2012, 02:03 AM)

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#5959

Originally Posted by parrotbeak: View Post
If only Cung didn't suck, I would love to see him vs Andy. Like if he were good it would be a really interesting match up with the spinning kicks and good wrestling base.
My MMA crystal ball says UFC 154: Le vs. Franklin.
parrotbeak
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(07-11-2012, 02:06 AM)

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#5960

I know he's got some great highlights against Strikeforce unknowns but his UFC showing has been shit. Can he really carry a main event with Franklin? Oh wait, this is UFC 2012.
Brian Fellows
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(07-11-2012, 02:06 AM)

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#5961

Originally Posted by FACE: View Post
Dos Anjos ko'd Sotiropopopopolous, he's okay in my book.
Agreed!
Ninja Scooter
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(07-11-2012, 03:08 AM)

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#5962

Originally Posted by parrotbeak: View Post



The Little Eagle soars again!
Baby J passed 205 long ago and he's not looking back. Homies after that JDS money.
bone_and_sinew
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(07-11-2012, 03:57 AM)

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#5963

3 BadMMA cards in 4 days, beginning tomorrow night. Not bad. The Strikeforce card actually looks the best of the bunch but I probably won't watch it unless I'm home.
industrian
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(07-11-2012, 06:42 AM)

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#5964

Originally Posted by Heel: View Post
My MMA crystal ball says UFC 154: Le vs. Franklin.
If Wikipedia trolls are to be believed:

bone_and_sinew
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(07-11-2012, 07:22 AM)

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#5965

That's some poor trolling. Jadamba Narantungalag isn't even in the UFC.
BLACKLAC
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(07-11-2012, 07:31 AM)

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#5966

The Munoz fight will be very interesting.


He will most likely be the one getting the next shot if he wins.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
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(07-11-2012, 08:34 AM)

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#5967

Hunt Vs Big Country? dayum, do want. Big Country as much as I like him probably getting KTFO to 205.
SteveWD40
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(07-11-2012, 09:26 AM)

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#5968

Originally Posted by alr1ghtstart: View Post
Bisping would be the money fight. Put it England and roll in the money.
Silva would probably have half the crowed behind him here anyway, he is still remembered as the best fighter Cage Rage ever had, spinning back elbow KO's...
TheKaeptain
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(07-11-2012, 10:08 AM)

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#5969

Originally Posted by BLACKLAC: View Post
The Munoz fight will be very interesting.


He will most likely be the one getting the next shot if he wins.
If Hector Lafraud wins he gets Anderson next.
industrian
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(07-11-2012, 10:24 AM)

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#5970

Originally Posted by bone_and_sinew: View Post
That's some poor trolling. Jadamba Narantungalag isn't even in the UFC.
Bruce Buffer would need an oxygen mask after saying that name.

Originally Posted by ItAintEasyBeinCheesy: View Post
Hunt Vs Big Country? dayum, do want. Big Country as much as I like him probably getting KTFO to 205.
If Mark Hunt was on the card I'd be 80% convinced to travel to Macau to watch it live. I'd need another few names to push me over the edge.

Originally Posted by CaptYamato: View Post
If Hector Lafraud wins he gets Anderson next.
From UFC's Facebook:

BLACKLAC
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(07-11-2012, 10:35 AM)

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#5971

Originally Posted by CaptYamato: View Post
If Hector Lafraud wins he gets Anderson next.
I have my doubts if Munoz wins. The guy has paid his dues and if he fought sonnen and won instead of getting injured he would have already had his chance at a title.

If he loses and Hector wins then yeah, no doubt Hector gets the next shot.


If both Munoz and Hector lose......
DKehoe
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(07-11-2012, 10:55 AM)

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#5972

Originally Posted by industrian: View Post
If Mark Hunt was on the card I'd be 80% convinced to travel to Macau to watch it live. I'd need another few names to push me over the edge.
Mark Hunt's winning steak (the longest in the division apart from JDS) is my favourite thing in MMA just now.
Maklershed
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(07-11-2012, 12:13 PM)

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#5973

Originally Posted by parrotbeak: View Post
Ya, there were lots of times people got yellow carded in Pride when they probably couldn't do anything offensive. It was like being penalized for not opening yourself up to being attacked. Not everyone has a good bottom game or the body type to go for triangles.
Not long ago I saw Aoki pin and leg trap Aurelio who was on the bottom. Aoki just laid on him and didn't punch and didn't move and Aurelio was completely wrapped up and couldn't wiggle free. The ref yellow carded Aurelio even though it was Aoki who was the only one who could control the attack and movement.
FACE
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(07-11-2012, 12:34 PM)

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#5974

Mark Munoz: Hector Lombard's Been 'Recycling' Cans, Not Fighting

Quote:
It's very, very frustrating," Munoz confessed. "I know he's a good fighter. I know that he has a good record, but he was in another organization. To be in the best organization - which is the UFC - and for me to be in the UFC, and to have the best fighters in the UFC that are ranked in the world, and for me to fight them for as long as I've been in there and then a new guy coming in who has been fighting cans.
He's learning.
Maklershed
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(07-11-2012, 12:42 PM)

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#5975

So which one of you guys is Mark Munoz?
Chamber
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(07-11-2012, 02:31 PM)

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#5976

I didn't realize Rockhold/Kennedy was this Saturday. What are the odds this one is better than 148?
TheKaeptain
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(07-11-2012, 02:40 PM)

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#5977

STAY THE FUCK OUT OF THIS THREAD!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482026
bloodydrake
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(07-11-2012, 02:41 PM)

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#5978

could be pretty entertaining. I usually enjoy the strikeforce events quiet abit.

I wanna see if Rockhold can not be wrestlefucked by Kennedy

I'd like to see Woodly destroy Nate but

I expect Lawler to knockout Larkin in devastating fashion

I think diet Jardine is gonna have to retire if he can't finish Gracie( is this fight at 185?)

Masvidal should easlily beat Wilcox
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#5979

Originally Posted by CaptYamato: View Post
STAY THE FUCK OUT OF THIS THREAD!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482026
LOL gonna be a ban fest yes?
Chamber
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(07-11-2012, 02:54 PM)

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#5980

Rockhold has a pretty good BJJ game so I'm expecting Kennedy to employ Jackson's current favorite fight strategy, stick and move. I hope Rockhold is prepared for it and hopefully Kennedy is better at it than Guida.

Originally Posted by FACE: View Post
Mark Munoz: Hector Lombard's Been 'Recycling' Cans, Not Fighting

He's learning.
As if Chris Leben is better than Alex Shlemenko or CB Dolloway is better than a guy like Trevor Prangley. Not that I think too highly of Lombard but I can't really say Mark Munoz deserves to be ranked higher than him.
Last edited by Chamber; 07-11-2012 at 03:29 PM.
Chamber
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(07-11-2012, 03:04 PM)

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#5981

Jon Jones explaining why none of the proposed super fights will ever become a reality.

Originally Posted by Jon Jones:
It's not that he won't fight me or I won't fight him. To be dead honest, it's that we both have a lot to lose and we both respect each other a lot and we both are striving for personal greatness. I don't want to crack on his greatness and I don't want him cracking on my greatness. We're in completely different weight classes. We both have sponsor deals and things that are really important to us and a big part of that sponsorship package is winning [and] being a champion. Having us fight each other means one of our championships goes away. I respect Anderson Silva so much that I don't want to be the guy to beat him. I don't want to lose to him either. It's a lose-lose situation for me.
Same thing I've always said on this subject. UFC Champions make so much more money than the rest of the roster, it's just not worth the risk.
GungHo
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(07-11-2012, 03:12 PM)

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#5982

Originally Posted by Host Samurai: View Post
Why do people hate Faber? He brings it every fight and comes off as a cool dude. He also has a unique marketable look to him.
The the ass-chin, the swishy hair, the douchey "alpha male" club, and the attempt to bill him as GOAT material when he competed in WEC and he'd not really fought GOAT-worthy opponents. People were willing to pass on the Tyson Griffin loss as a one time slip, "he got lucky" thing, but Mike Brown and then Jose Aldo exposed him as quite vulnerable to a prepared opponent who isn't going to let him bully them around like he's the King of Munchkinland.
DKehoe
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(07-11-2012, 03:34 PM)

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#5983

Originally Posted by GungHo: View Post
The the ass-chin, the swishy hair, the douchey "alpha male" club, and the attempt to bill him as GOAT material when he competed in WEC and he'd not really fought GOAT-worthy opponents. People were willing to pass on the Tyson Griffin loss as a one time slip, "he got lucky" thing, but Mike Brown and then Jose Aldo exposed him as quite vulnerable to a prepared opponent who isn't going to let him bully them around like he's the King of Munchkinland.
On TUF, I think Faber came across as a lot more forced than Cruz. Faber seemed to be playing up to the cameras more and I ended up liking Cruz more than him. In regards to those losses though, in the Brown fight he broke his hands, and Jose Aldo is Jose Aldo.
industrian
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(07-11-2012, 03:45 PM)

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#5984

Originally Posted by Chamber: View Post
Jon Jones explaining why none of the proposed super fights will ever become a reality.



Same thing I've always said on this subject. UFC Champions make so much more money than the rest of the roster, it's just not worth the risk.
In the perfect world (of zero injuries, zero problems, etc) the UFC would give Las Vegas their yearly "Super Bowl" MMA event in July with a "UFC Night of Champions Openweight Tournament." 8 champions enter, one is crowned the True Ultimate Fighting Champion.

But yeah, injuries, the fact there would be 3 fights for the finalists, unwillingness for fighters to participate and the cheapening of the belts would kill off that idea before it even started. Not to mention total opposition from the athletic commissions.
Brian Fellows
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(07-11-2012, 03:59 PM)

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#5985

Originally Posted by DKehoe: View Post
On TUF, I think Faber came across as a lot more forced than Cruz. Faber seemed to be playing up to the cameras more and I ended up liking Cruz more than him. In regards to those losses though, in the Brown fight he broke his hands, and Jose Aldo is Jose Aldo.
Broke his hands and still out struck Browns bitch ass with standing elbows and held his own in the grappling department.
industrian
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(07-11-2012, 04:04 PM)

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#5986

Originally Posted by DKehoe: View Post
Mark Hunt's winning steak (the longest in the division apart from JDS) is my favourite thing in MMA just now.
I'm hoping that the casinos/government in Macau have given the UFC Arab Money in return for a stacked/more-than-half-decent card.

I like Hunt because he's a wrecking machine and K-1 champion. I'm confident that he could destroy anyone who doesn't have a decent ground game. That includes JDS.

If Hunt is on this card I (for some reason) see him getting paired against Bigfoot Silva. But if the aforementioned Wikitroll is accurate, Hunt vs. Nelson would be god-tier.
Host Samurai
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(07-11-2012, 04:10 PM)

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#5987

So I guess the GSP/BJ Penn fights are the last that we will see a super fight in UFC history. Fuckin Dana's not making it happen. Sucks that we will never see Silva/Jones as they both have zero competition (if he beats Hendo than who is next?).
Host Samurai
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(07-11-2012, 04:12 PM)

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#5988

Originally Posted by industrian: View Post
In the perfect world (of zero injuries, zero problems, etc) the UFC would give Las Vegas their yearly "Super Bowl" MMA event in July with a "UFC Night of Champions Openweight Tournament." 8 champions enter, one is crowned the True Ultimate Fighting Champion.

But yeah, injuries, the fact there would be 3 fights for the finalists, unwillingness for fighters to participate and the cheapening of the belts would kill off that idea before it even started. Not to mention total opposition from the athletic commissions.
If PRIDE was around we would be seeing some sick fights already. Brock vs Fedor, Jones vs Silva and Jones vs GSP would have already happened. Not to mention freak fights like Hendo vs Carwin.
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(07-11-2012, 04:12 PM)

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#5989

Originally Posted by Chamber: View Post
Jon Jones explaining why none of the proposed super fights will ever become a reality.



Same thing I've always said on this subject. UFC Champions make so much more money than the rest of the roster, it's just not worth the risk.
Sigh. I don't even know what to say when I hear a UFC posterboy say garbage like this. It's depressing. Fuck Jon Jones. Fuck GSP, fuck all the "safe" champions, hell, fuck all the "safe" fighters, fuck the UFC for making it so the fighters want to have "safe" fights. Fuck!
GungHo
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(07-11-2012, 04:13 PM)

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Originally Posted by Brian Fellows: View Post
Broke his hands and still out struck Browns bitch ass with standing elbows and held his own in the grappling department.
I'm not saying Brown is hot shit (you can't be hot shit if you lose to Manny Gambuyrian), but Faber lost to Brown twice. You can blame broke hands and shit judging on the second fight, but you can't say "I was hurt/had mono/grandma died/dog ate my homework" every time you lose and then say "but if everything was going my way, I'd be the greatest".
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(07-11-2012, 04:23 PM)

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#5991

Originally Posted by GungHo: View Post
I'm not saying Brown is hot shit (you can't be hot shit if you lose to Manny Gambuyrian), but Faber lost to Brown twice. You can blame broke hands and shit judging on the second fight, but you can't say "I was hurt/had mono/grandma died/dog ate my homework" every time you lose and then say "but if everything was going my way, I'd be the greatest".
Chuck after every loss "Shrug I got caught, if not I would have won"
industrian
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(07-11-2012, 04:24 PM)

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#5992

Originally Posted by Host Samurai: View Post
So I guess the GSP/BJ Penn fights are the last that we will see a super fight in UFC history. Fuckin Dana's not making it happen. Sucks that we will never see Silva/Jones as they both have zero competition (if he beats Hendo than who is next?).
If the stars align and whatever voodoo magic Dan Henderson has perfected works and he beats Jon Jones I can see him instantly calling out Anderson Silva. It would be something like "I want both my belts back." Then the PRIDE victory theme would play and everyone here would mark the fuck out.

If he loses I still see him eventually fighting Silva. Nothing says "I guess I'll try being a middleweight" like being thrown around by Jon Jones.

Originally Posted by ShaneB: View Post
Sigh. I don't even know what to say when I hear a UFC posterboy say garbage like this. It's depressing. Fuck Jon Jones. Fuck GSP, fuck all the "safe" champions, hell, fuck all the "safe" fighters, fuck the UFC for making it so the fighters want to have "safe" fights. Fuck!
The same "safe champions" like Fedor who constantly refused to fight Alistair Overeem. Then again that led to Overeem winning K-1 so I guess it worked out for The Reem. Not being Uberkneed into Goodridgeville also worked out for Fedor too I guess.

There's too much at stake for these champions to take anything other than the "safe" route. Afterall, Jon Jones does need to replace his Bentley.
parrotbeak
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(07-11-2012, 04:34 PM)

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Imo when you are 24 and already trying to hold on to what you have instead of dream big, you're setting yourself up for mediocrity. I can't think of any other great fighter who was already trying to protect their legacy 3-4 years into their career. I present no evidence; just my feeling.
Brian Fellows
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(07-11-2012, 04:40 PM)

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#5994

Originally Posted by GungHo: View Post
I'm not saying Brown is hot shit (you can't be hot shit if you lose to Manny Gambuyrian), but Faber lost to Brown twice. You can blame broke hands and shit judging on the second fight, but you can't say "I was hurt/had mono/grandma died/dog ate my homework" every time you lose and then say "but if everything was going my way, I'd be the greatest".
Well the first time Faber headbutted Browns fist knocking himself loopy. :) It was a poor tactic.
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(07-11-2012, 04:43 PM)

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#5995

Originally Posted by CaptYamato: View Post
STAY THE FUCK OUT OF THIS THREAD!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482026
I thought it was going to be the twilight fan thread, stay out of that one too.
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industrian
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#5996

Originally Posted by parrotbeak: View Post
Imo when you are 24 and already trying to hold on to what you have instead of dream big, you're setting yourself up for mediocrity. I can't think of any other great fighter who was already trying to protect their legacy 3-4 years into their career. I present no evidence; just my feeling.
He's the LHW Champion, it's not as if he has any bigger dream right now than beating Tito's record and then moving on to his next challenge.

Well, maybe the chance of a drunken threesome in the back of a Bentley, but I digress...
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Chamber
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(07-11-2012, 05:01 PM)

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#5997

Originally Posted by parrotbeak: View Post
Imo when you are 24 and already trying to hold on to what you have instead of dream big, you're setting yourself up for mediocrity. I can't think of any other great fighter who was already trying to protect their legacy 3-4 years into their career. I present no evidence; just my feeling.
Why dream big when you have a legion of front running fanboys calling you the GOAT 4 years into your career? (:

I think Jones will eventually move to HW but he's just as spooked by Anderson as people seem to think Silva is by Jones.
Host Samurai
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(07-11-2012, 05:27 PM)

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#5998

Yeah fucking boring ass champions and boring ass fighters. We need more guys like Hendo and Wand in this sport. Fucking Wand had the balls to take on Mark Hunt in PRIDE....just think about that right now. Its fun to think what would have become if it was PRIDE that bought the UFC and not vice versa. Not to turn this into another PRIDE vs UFC, but PRIDE was definitely the more entertaining product than what the UFC was providing. I also liked how many UFC and PRIDE fighters at the time were not locked into exclusive WWE like contracts at the time and were able to fight in other leagues such as Pancrase and do some shoot style pro wrestling fights. Now its either you are UFC exclusive or not.
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(07-11-2012, 05:27 PM)

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Originally Posted by Host Samurai: View Post
Its fun to think what would have become if it was PRIDE that bought the UFC and not vice versa.
it would be dead.
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(07-11-2012, 05:30 PM)

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Originally Posted by FACE: View Post
If Weidman wins Bisping should fight Belcher for contender status and he should fight the winner of Mak x Hector for the next spot.
bisping belcher would be a great fight