[Nealand Liquor]

Or are they complete write off im your mind?
What would they have to do to aquire positive favor?
If they are a total lost cause, what was your final straw?

[Macmanus]

What did Bethesda do?

[SolidSnakex]

What did Bethesda do?

Skyrim PS3.

[Nub]

What did Bethesda do?

This

[Tenck]

What did Bethesda do?

30 day exclusive DLC for Xbox 360 for Skyrim.

I for one am done with EA. Still don't know about Bethesda.

[JABEE]

This

Released broken games and won GOTY.

[Drkirby]

Yeah, I don't hold unreasonable grudges. Ubisoft is working its way back up in my eyes after years of Tom Clancy and Petz games, and I never got that pissed off at Capcom, They just haven't made anything I want to buy in over a year.

[MRORANGE]

What did Bethesda do?

fixed a broken game.

[HoosTrax]

Bethesda's fine in my books. I'll trade 30 day delay on DLC for infinite modding possibilities any day, and it was more bug free on Day-1 than any other BGS game I can remember.

EA...lost cause?

[Mama Robotnik]

What did Bethesda do?

The company knowingly released a broken game to an unsuspecting audience, and conspired with the print media so that they could secretly review the game on a (working) format without informing their readership. Consequently, Bethesda conned millions out of gamers. The games industry being the disgusting sycophants that they are, praised them to hell and back, and showered them with Game of the Year awards.

Oh, and they also a letter to Notch demanding an up front sum of cash to compensate them for his use of the word "Scrolls" and threatened him with legal action if he didn't pay, effectively extortion.

One would hope these things would make them infamous, alas. One of the most abhorrent companies in the industry.

[DNAgent]

I haven't bought a game developed or published by Bethesda in years. For me the boycott is still going (I didn't bother to play Skyrim after hearing how overhyped and glitchy that was).

[dragonelite]

Skyrim PS3.

Didn't affect me from enjoying skyrim, glorious time having pc,360 and ps3.

/selfish

[Eusis]

Depends on their overall trackrecord. I think EA blew it though, given they DID get better, then slid down perhaps further than they had before: how can I trust that they won't be doing this again anyway? Capcom and Bethesda though, my main beef with Capcom was not releasing games I wanted so they can fix that simply by releasing games I want, while Bethesda I'm more pissed for the Metacritic bonus bullshit they pulled with New Vegas (average at 84%! Only get rewarded at 85%), but so many others apparently do this shit it's pointless to boycott over that, and it might actually HELP illustrate why it's a bullshit metric to use if games failing to meet the arbitrary MetaCritic score STILL sell really damn well.

[kingkaiser]

What did Bethesda do?

Yeah seriously, they were never out of my good books.

EA huh? I would give them a chance if they publish Mirros Edge 2 and 3 and force Bioware to make real RPGs again...well that will never happen though...

[Fjordson]

I've never played a Bethesda game on PS3, so they're fine.

Haven't really been burned personally by EA either, but I think that might just be a result of not being interested in many of their games these days.

[echoshifting]

EA would need to make nice with Valve and replace their CEO. Then I'd give 'em a look.

[Carl]

I don't buy Activision games anymore. And i think they are beyond help...

[Tenck]

Didn't affect me from enjoying skyrim, glorious time having pc,360 and ps3. /selfish

Problem is not everyone is going to shell out cash for three versions (though as to why they didn't first get the superior PC version is beyond me).

[OnimaruXLR]

Would PS3 users have preferred Skyrim not even come out for PS3? Or come out six months after the 360/PC release? Because those are the alternatives, really.

[Flame Lord]

I have no beef with Bethesda. EA could probably be good again, but I doubt it.

[SolarPowered]

EA: Drop online passes or make them work the way they do in SSX so that used copies aren't completely worthless without a pass.

Ubisoft: Kill the bullshit DRM stuff on the PC and talk to it's customers like customers instead of thieves.

Capcom: Start goddamn spelling properly.

I don't really boycott though. I would have bought SSX day 1 if it had synchronous multiplayer and I'd buy a Capcom game if it is well done(ie: reasonable DLC practices and good overall design). Ubisoft is pretty hopeless outside of the new Rainbow six. I will almost never touch a game with some stupid DRM even if it can be cracked.

[Shalashaska161]

EA's been hated on for years, I don't see that ever really changing. They're a big company that does big company things, and people will always hate them for that.

And this thread shows that everyones already forgotten the whole PS3 Skyrim fiasco, so I'd say Bethesda's in the clear.

[Tenck]

Would PS3 users have preferred Skyrim not even come out for PS3? Or come out six months after the 360/PC release? Because those are the alternatives, really.

Another alternative (albeit the best one) would have been to release a proper game from the start.

[Durante]

EA could start by replacing their entire management and not doing any day 1 DLC. Also stop trying to shit out games like RPGs with a 18 month dev cycle.

I like Bethesda.

[Macmanus]

30 day exclusive DLC for Xbox 360 for Skyrim.

That seems like an arbitrary reason to boycott an entire company.

The company knowingly released a broken game to an unsuspecting audience, and conspired with the print media so that they could secretly review the game on a (working) format without informing their readership.

I'm playing on a non-patched copy of the xbox 360 version. No problems. Sorry if the PS3 version is broke. Isn't everything for the PS3 released broken? Also they included a piece of tin foil in my copy so I could fashion my own hat and keep the conspiracy theories at bay.

[SolidSnakex]

Didn't affect me from enjoying skyrim, glorious time having pc,360 and ps3. /selfish

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but there are people that feel that way. Sadly, they're actually "game journalists"

On the newest Weekend Confirmed they talk about the situation around the PS3 version. And i must say i'm not in the slightest suprised that this story is not getting any hype in the press. Garnett doesn't care about the technical side and for Jeff it's not that big of a deal because his experience on Xbox was fine and he was not effected. These guys don't feel any responsibility at all to inform their readers/listeners.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...postcount=1436

There were other posts in that thread about similar stuff. That was apparently Giant Bomb's stance on it also.

[Omikaru]

Personally I'm finished with EA. Despite all of their shit, I've always thought that if they changed their tune I'd start giving them my money again when they release a good game.

However, shutting down the Rock Band iOS game is, in my view, crossing the moral event horizon. You don't come back from that. It simply shows the utmost contempt for their customers, and I'm going to respond accordingly by never giving them my money again.

No other company has got that far yet (though Capcom and Ubisoft are circling the drain), and I'd be prepared to buy games from any other company which I'm currently not, so long as they rectify the reasons I'm not buying from them. For example: I'm reluctant to buy Capcom games until I hear good news about Ace Attorney Investigations 2 being localised, but the wound will heal (especially if they do localise AAI2). And Ubisoft gets a no sale from me thanks to always online DRM, but I happily gave them my cash for Rayman Origins because I'm not shackled to an internet connection just to play it.

But there is a line, and EA definitely crossed it.

[Hot Coldman]

Just make some good god damn games. EA's crimes would be far more excusable if their games were worth it (not talking about ME3 having not played it nor its immediate predecessor), but they're often not interesting at all. The last EA game I bought was Shadows of the Damned, and my tastes are mostly fairly mainstream. That's telling. (Still want to try Dead Space 1/2, mind.)

And I'll start buying Capcom games again when I feel like I'm not going to be ripped off by them. At least EA's games feel complete... when dudes in chainmail aren't redirecting me to the Playstation Store, anyway.

[Fancy Corndog]

Bethesda pissed me off with Skyrim on PS3, and I'm still holding a bit of a grudge about that. Although it's not really a personal one because I didn't buy the game until after they fixed it. Still, there's just no excuse for that.

However, they are nowhere NEAR EA's level of intolerability. I won't be buying shit from EA, because they seem not to recognize it as a purchase. The recent Rock Band thing is just so blatant about it too.

[Nihilistic Monk]

I boycotted chairs Shadow complex due to the involved authors anti gay bias. I didn't feel a great deal of community from GAF in that decision in the end, and I missed out on an apparently good game.

Made me feel that these boycotts are ineffectual and not much use to be honest.

Didn't buy Fez either. That was a non-event as well.

I feel the majority will buy, pointless majorities like the ME3 people will get semi heard then lap up the DLC.

[SteveWinwood]

That seems like an arbitrary reason to boycott an entire company.

Good thing theres plenty of other reasons!

[~Kinggi~]

Meh, i dont have a real problem with Bethesda....yet....

EA though, despite having some good games is on the shit list for their pretty terrible business practices.

EA would need to stop making everything so hooked into the online space. Stop dumbing down their franchises. ANd stop whoring themselves out with DLC.

[NemesisPrime]

Skyrim PS3.

Lol?

[Foliorum Viridum]

EA had a period in like... 2008 when they seemed to be pushing out great games and going against the "evil" Activision.

They won me over then. But those games didn't set the world on fire and they reverted to being a terrible company.

Plus, they made Jeff Green mad. Cunts.

[Averon]

Would PS3 users have preferred Skyrim not even come out for PS3? Or come out six months after the 360/PC release? Because those are the alternatives, really.

Given what happened? YES! It's pretty simple: Either release a functionally competent game at launch or, if need be, delay it until you can.

EA was doing good up until around 2009-2010. They were releasing quality games and not being dicks. It was also during that time that they was bleeding money. I guess they decided being the nice guy wasn't worth it financially.

[massoluk]

Only shits I literally bought from EA in the last decade are the Sims and Bioware games. And I doubt I'll be buying anything else from them now that Mass Effect story is done and lately their games have been disappointing.

Capcom - Only Phoenix Wright series is still of interest to me. I don't play fighting games and they killed ofF everything else spectacularly.

Bethesda is still ok with me.

[Derrick01]

EA would have to completely change the way they've operated for the last 15 years (at least) to even begin to get back on my good side.

And stop releasing watered down copycats of other people's successful games.

edit: All bethesda has to do is stop releasing dumber and dumber RPGs.

[Tenck]

That seems like an arbitrary reason to boycott an entire company.

There's no reason why they should be doing that. PC gamers helped them break records on Steam, and I am sure that the major sales from consoles were welcomed too. I just don't see any reason why you just ignore others who bought it on different platforms for 30 days.

Edit:

I'm playing on a non-patched copy of the xbox 360 version. No problems. Sorry if the PS3 version is broke. Isn't everything for the PS3 released broken? Also they included a piece of tin foil in my copy so I could fashion my own hat and keep the conspiracy theories at bay.

Lol, love this kind of attitude.

'You bought the wrong version, your problem.' As if we'd even have a clue as to what the game was going to be like before release.

[Petrichor]

Anyone who made a decision to solely own a PS3 this generation will have done so in the knowledge that third parties were in large struggling to get PS3 versions of multiplatform titles up to the standard of their 360/PC counterparts.

Now this doesn't excuse bethesda from releasing a fundamentally broken game, but its not as if they robbed PS3 owners, they did fix the problem in the end. It's not as if Bethesda are uniquely incompetent and are the only third party developer struggling with aspects of the PS3's architecture. Would people have preferred the PS3 version to have been delayed?

[DR3AM]

i only buy fifa games but this time ill just buy them used. SUCK ON THAT.

[Macmanus]

Good thing theres plenty of other reasons!

All equally arbitrary no doubt.

Skyrim on ps3. lol.

[spirity]

Bethesda's never been out of my good books. Sure, they've wobbled from time to time, but they're nowhere near close to being some sort of asshole publisher/developer.

EA.. man, where do you start.

[shamanick]

I boycotted chairs Shadow complex due to the involved authors anti gay bias. I didn't feel a great deal of community from GAF in that decision in the end, and I missed out on an apparently good game.

Do you have more info?

I bought PS3 Skryim day one and platted it without too much trouble. On the other hand, I'll have a very difficult time purchasing an EA product in the future. The whole digital rights issue is being unbalanced so far to the producer's rights side I can't in good conscience support them.

[Jaded Alyx]

I don't have any issue with EA, although I haven't finished Mass Effect 3 yet...

I've also never played a Bethesda game to my recollection, so no real issue there either.

I can't actually think of any company that's pissed me off so severely that I'd consider boycotting them.

[echoshifting]

Do you have more info?

Here

All the links you should need are in the first post.

[Dragonzord]

EA could make a game that I want to play.

I don't 'boycott' them because of practices. I do it because I think most of their titles are creatively bankrupt. I'll probably buy Dead Space 3. I'd love Dragon Age 3 to be good, but I've given up completely on Bioware.

[SolidSnakex]

Lol?

LOL? Bethesda knowingly released a broken game.

[Macmanus]

Do you have more info?

The story of the game is based off a far left militant environmental terrorist group that was written by Orson Scott Card who happens to be a notorious Mormon homophobe.

A much more logical reason to boycott something other than "wahh I bought a PC game on the PS3 and it's broken like all my PC lead developed games ever wahh."

LOL? Bethesda knowingly released a broken game.

My copy worked.

[Yo Gotti]

EA was never in.

Bethesda never really left.

[ShutEye]

As long as EA keeps shutting down games no way.

Bethesda's crap with PS3 Skyrim was pretty disgusting even though it didn't affect me. I'm currently facing the same situation with X360 Mass Effect 3 though.

The only solution for the non-working game thing is to not buy or buy way way after launch. Even then it still feels wrong.

If the companies had some sort of compensation mechanism for these type of events then I think I would feel okay about buying again, but until that happens I just can't risk the waste of time & money that a broken game is.