[Scullibundo]

Who is going to be Nolan's Spielberg?

[Andrex]

I'm talking about Nolan's Batman. Bruce is the one that trained for years to become a ninja. After everything that we've seen him live through, I want to see him do this on his own.

Uhh he's been on his own in BB and TDK and probably a good portion of TDKR to boot. I don't see the problem, Batman has never been "I DON'T NEED YOUR HELP I'M THE GODDAMN BATMAN" in Nolan's universe, you even said it yourself he has Gordon, he uses Lucius and Alfred, and he even started trusting Dent with things.

Besides that, I doubt their whole dynamic in TDKR is Batman phoning Selina one night and going, "Hey! I need some help on this mission babe, wanna tag along? "

More likely it's what happened like in Year One (you know, the book that Nolan got 90% of his material for BB from): they both go after the same target, bump into eachother, and team up to take out the thugs. After that they have an uneasy but understood alliance that eventually becomes genuine care for eachother ("Did they kill him?" "I don't know.")

[Dany M]

Nolans batman is going ot live forever, he wants to be able to pass the torch to someone who is able to be a symbol without hiding behin the mask.

For catwoman though...hmm no idea?

[TheKaeptain]

Who is going to be Nolan's Spielberg?

He even wears the hat.

[Scullibundo]

Uhh he's been on his own in BB and TDK and probably a good portion of TDKR to boot. I don't see the problem, Batman has never been "I DON'T NEED YOUR HELP I'M THE GODDAMN BATMAN" in Nolan's universe, you even said it yourself he has Gordon, he uses Lucius and Alfred, and he even started trusting Dent with things. Besides that, I doubt their whole dynamic in TDKR is Batman phoning Selina one night and going, "Hey! I need some help on this mission babe, wanna tag along? " More likely it's what happened like in Year One (you know, the book that Nolan got 90% of his material for BB from): they both go after the same target, bump into eachother, and team up to take out the thugs.

Fair enough. I hope that Nolan at least attempts to maintain a sense of realism in Catwoman's backstory. There had better be a damn good reason why she can fuck up henchman as good as Batman outside of the ol' 'She's a main character who knows some kung-fu!'

[Scullibundo]

He even wears the hat.

I thought about it, but couldn't in good conscience equate Snyder with a younger Spielberg.

[Dany M]

nvm

[PhoncipleBone]

Nolans batman is going ot live forever, he wants to be able to pass the torch to someone who is able to be a symbol without hiding behin the mask. For catwoman though...hmm no idea?

Telling ya, Batman "dies" in the film and it ends with him training his army of Batmen or his successor in the end.

[Hot Coldman]

Telling ya, Batman "dies" in the film and it ends with him training his army of Batmen or his successor in the end.

With Selina calling out Superman Bane at the funeral, right

[Joe Prodigy]

Perhaps Bane is too much of a problem for Batman to handle all by himself.

[Escape Goat]

If Robin, I mean JGL doesn't replace Batman and Bruce rides off into the sunset with Selina I'll consider the franchise a dismal failure. Someone needs to give some finality to a comicbook franchise for once. And if Nolan is following the third act structure we ought to see themes coming full circle. Sunrise, sunset.

[PhoncipleBone]

With Selina calling out Superman Bane at the funeral, right

I was thinking something along the lines of the ending scenes of Dark Knight Returns.

[Speevy]

You must leave no sign.

Batmen: "We haven't."

*everyone puts a sword to the throat of the man next to him*

[Zeliard]

Title is "The Dark Knight Rises," not "The Dark Knight Stumbles and then Dies." Bane will smack him around some, and later Batman will rise back up like a throbbing erection and vanquish the evil doer. That he is physically stomped on by the baddie will be a first for the Nolan series and be shocking enough for people who aren't familiar with the comics. Don't see them going further than that, though it'd be a pleasant surprise if they did.

[Hot Coldman]

I was thinking something along the lines of the ending scenes of Dark Knight Returns.

...That's part of the ending scenes of the Dark Knight Returns. I know which specific bit you were referencing, I was referencing the bit that happens like two panels earlier.

[Clayton Bigsby]

Title is "The Dark Knight Rises," not "The Dark Knight Stumbles and then Dies." Bane will smack him around some, and later Batman will rise back up like a throbbing erection and vanquish the evil doer. That he is physically stomped on by the baddie will be a first for the Nolan series and be shocking enough for people who aren't familiar with the comics. Don't see them going further than that, though it'd be a pleasant surprise if they did.

I dont see the title being as literal as you do. Just my opinion though.

[Scullibundo]

Title is "The Dark Knight Rises," not "The Dark Knight Stumbles and then Dies." Bane will smack him around some, and later Batman will rise back up like a throbbing erection and vanquish the evil doer. That he is physically stomped on by the baddie will be a first for the Nolan series and be shocking enough for people who aren't familiar with the comics. Don't see them going further than that, though it'd be a pleasant surprise if they did.

They should have Bane beat Batman to a pulp. Then imprison him in that well thing for eight years - where Bruce trains again and gets into serious bat-shape. Then Batman returns to Gotham (which now looks like the alternate timeline casino from Bttf2) and finds Bane.

Batman launches himself at Bane - with all the ferocity that has been pent up in the last near-decade, before Bane catches him, picks him up, raises him over his head and brings his back down onto his knee. CUT TO BLACK ON SNAP. PLEASE BE CAREFUL MOVING UP THE THEATRE AISLE.

Oh. And at some point we find out that Bane is Earle.

[Andrex]

Oh. And at some point we find out that Bane is Earle.

Batman didn't get the memo.

[Scullibundo]

Speaking of Earle, he is the dumbest tyrant boss ever. He goes down to Foxx's department and asks him point black to compile a whole bunch of information that he desperately needs regarding the microwave emitter, then when Foxx asks if he lost one, he decides to tell Foxx that he's merging R&D with archives and firing Foxx.

Do you really think you're going to get what must be a whole night's work of compiling information out of Foxx right after you told him he's being shitcanned? Tell him after you take advantage of that sucker.

[Gila]

A lot's been made of the 8 years batman's been away. I'm assuming the first encounter with bane happens very early in the film...has anybody made a good case that the 8 year lapse could be the recuperation period from that, or is it pretty obviously 8 years later from frame one? Can't really see it being that long a period, how long did it take him to return in Knightfall?

I thought of this too for some time, because of some shots of Bruce - it almost seems like he looks "younger" than to what he does now. But overtime I thought of some new theories and forgot about the original idea.

For example, this shot: I know it's a hard angle, but it almost looks like his white hair isn't there

This one as well

[DMczaf]

I'm talking about Nolan's Batman. Bruce is the one that trained for years to become a ninja. After everything that we've seen him live through, I want to see him do this on his own. I fucking hate sidekicks. There had better be a very good reason to include Catwoman outside of 'it's the last film of the trilogy so it's our last chance to squeeze her in.'

Nolan has been wanting to use Catwoman for a long time, this isn't Raimi being forced to use Venom.

And I'll just say, Catwoman is not a sidekick. SPOILERZ.

[Andrex]

I thought of this too for some time, because of some shots of Bruce - it almost seems like he looks "younger" than to what he does now. But overtime I thought of some new theories and forgot about the original idea. For example, this shot: I know it's a hard angle, but it almost looks like his white hair isn't there This one as well

The IGN rewind thing brought up that maybe there's even a flashback to Begins, with some of the Talia stuff.

[Tookay]

^ Might want to edit that Andrex.

[jey_16]

I thought of this too for some time, because of some shots of Bruce - it almost seems like he looks "younger" than to what he does now. But overtime I thought of some new theories and forgot about the original idea. For example, this shot: I know it's a hard angle, but it almost looks like his white hair isn't there This one as well

I always thought that second picture was taken close to when TDK took place considering the scar/bruise on his arm which looks like the dog bite from the start of TDK

[Andrex]

^ Might want to edit that Andrex.

I didn't know if it was a real spoiler, IGN seemed pretty unsure.

[Xun]

It's a shame a reboot is likely to happen so soon after TDKR.

[artist]

Well Matthew Modine says TDKR will kick ‘The Avengers’ butt at the BO.

[Solo]

It's a shame a reboot is likely to happen so soon after TDKR.

Why is that a shame? People love them some Batman.

[Andrex]

Well Matthew Modine says TDKR will kick ‘The Avengers’ butt at the BO.

A FIRE WILL RISE

[ezekial45]

Well Matthew Modine says TDKR will kick ‘The Avengers’ butt at the BO.

What a cool guy.

[artist]

Isnt he the same guy with the "They'll dump him in the spring" line from trailer 2?

[ezekial45]

He was guy who said he was a "hero".

[Tookay]

Well Matthew Modine says TDKR will kick ‘The Avengers’ butt at the BO.

I'm really interested to see how his character is going to turn out. Initial press said he was going to play a villain, but then the trailer made it look like he was a decent guy. There's a lot of stuff in this movie we still don't know about.

[Blader5489]

I'm really interested to see how his character is going to turn out. Initial press said he was going to play a villain, but then the trailer made it look like he was a decent guy. There's a lot of stuff in this movie we still don't know about.

Yeah, that was bullshit. Wherever that came from had him pegged as an evil politician named Nixon, but some of the recent viral stuff has revealed he's Gordon's deputy commissioner.

[RustyNails]

Isnt he the same guy with the "They'll dump him in the spring" line from trailer 2?

He's forever Pvt Joker to me.

[Tookay]

Yeah, that was bullshit. Wherever that came from had him pegged as an evil politician named Nixon, but some of the recent viral stuff has revealed he's Gordon's deputy commissioner.

Yeah, that always felt a bit too on the nose for me, so I'm glad that the Nixon stuff didn't pan out.

Still, I wonder what's going to separate him from Gordon and Blake. We're going to be following three cops, so there's got to be a reason for it.

[planar1280]

speculation:


1. Officer Blake is Joker's son who Bruce (Not Batman) is bringing up and puts as his heir
2. Bane will break Batmans back on the fight on the stairs seen in trailers
3. Officer Blake will save Batman but Bane will capture Bruce from his home as he is recovering (capturing the 1%)
4. With Bruce captured Batman is no more and chaos ensues with Cat Woman taking the loot, Bruce starts to recover and build himself up
5. Bruce escapes from Bane's prison with a still broken back
6. Batman has Mr. Fox build a suit for him which supports his broken back
7. Catwoman hates Bruce for being rich but is still fascinated by him while she is in love with Batman for being a vigilante
8. Batman has one last fight with Bane where he supposedly dies but takes the life of Bane with him. Bruce and Batman are Dead (supposedly)
9. Going on 5 years we see a shot of Batman looking over Gotham, camera starts to turn towards batmans face but fades to black (we dont know if it is Bruce or Blake, his heir).

[apana]

What do you guys think will be the scene after the end credits, Superman ordering a falafel?

[Hex]

Joker's son...
Seriously?
No personal hate, but that whole synopsis would be the shittiest movie this side of a direct to dvd rack in some time.

[TheKaeptain]

I'll say it again. Blake is a cop that admires Batman and believes in him. He'll probably even find evidence that Batman didn't kill those cops or dent. He'll eventually help Bruce out in a major way or something along those lines.


Why would you even spoiler mere speculation? It isn't spoiler.

[planar1280]

What do you guys think will be the scene after the end credits, Superman ordering a falafel?

No probably Superman coming to recruit Batman for Justice League lol

[RubxQub]

The title of this thread reminds me...who were the 5 people that Joker killed that were referenced in the line of dialogue "5 dead, 2 of them cops".

I remember trying to count and the numbers didn't add up.

[-Plasma Reus-]

The title of this thread reminds me...who were the 5 people that Joker killed that were referenced in the line of dialogue "5 dead, 2 of them cops". I remember trying to count and the numbers didn't add up.

Everyone forgets Ramirez and Joker's son.

[TheKaeptain]

The Dark Knight Rise |OT3| No Riddler Just Joker's Son.

[Andrex]

The title of this thread reminds me...who were the 5 people that Joker killed that were referenced in the line of dialogue "5 dead, 2 of them cops". I remember trying to count and the numbers didn't add up.

That was in reference to the people Dent killed.

[Tookay]

The title of this thread reminds me...who were the 5 people that Joker killed that were referenced in the line of dialogue "5 dead, 2 of them cops". I remember trying to count and the numbers didn't add up.

Nobody knows for sure but it's in reference to Dent.

1. Wuertz (the guy in the bar)
2. Maroni
3. Maroni's driver
4. Maroni's thug (Dent grabs him almost off-screen before getting in the car.)
5. ?? (Some people say the cop Joker kills in Dent's hospital room)

I've read that Nolan said in an interview it would be addressed, but I don't really see how.

speculation:

Thankfully 98% of this has been proven to be false already.

[shagg_187]

The Dark Knight Rise |OT3| No Riddler Just Joker's Son.

Yep. This needs to be done! :lol

[Andrex]

Nobody knows for sure but it's in reference to Dent. 1. Wuertz (the guy in the bar) 2. Maroni 3. Maroni's driver 4. Maroni's thug (Dent grabs him almost off-screen before getting in the car.) 5. ?? (Some people say the cop Joker kills in Dent's hospital room) I've read that Nolan said in an interview it would be addressed, but I don't really see how.

One of the people Dent killed was Catwoman's sister/relative?

[Gila]

Joker even have a son in the comics?

[spidye]

One of the people Dent killed was Catwoman's sister/relative?

JGL's father who's also a cop, maybe?