[drizzle]

I'm all for some dark environs but unless you're in a cave you're not going to experience the sort of completely black environment the game presents you with. Even outside of the reach of urban light pollution there's always enough light to make your way around, slowly, in real life. In the game it might as well just be a matte black screen in some areas. The light level and amount of detail you can see in the dark isn't realistic. The responses some people give to the darkness in this game makes me wonder if any of you have actually been out camping at night.

The thing everybody forgets is that we live in city-lighted nights. If there were no cities to light everything around us, it would be pitch black. There's no electricity in DayZ world. If there's a full moon out, you can see pretty well. If it's overcast or there's no moon, you're screwed.

Farms are a great example of this.

[Foliorum Viridum]

Exactly. I live in the middle of a Welsh field. It gets incredibly dark with no light sources.

[Cydonian__Knight]

I bought Combined Operations in the Amazon sale today. If my laptop can run it, I'm going to try this out sometime this week. Reading through this thread has been amazing.

[Jhriad]

I disagree. If you go far enough from my house on a night when there's no moon or stars you can barely see in front of you, at all.

Put something opaque over one eye for 20-30 minutes and then go out somewhere where you can't see any artificial lighting that would immediately ruin the night vision in the covered eye. Uncover eye. If you can still barely see anything in front of you, you might have some temporary or permanent condition affecting your night vision.

Farms are a great example of this.

I've lived on a farm and spent most of my life camping and living in areas of the midwestern US without any real significant sources of urban light pollution. You can see fairly well if you don't ruin your night vision with artificial lighting (flashlights, etc). You can't exactly run carefree through a dense forest but you can make your way through at a steady pace without too much worry.

[Foliorum Viridum]

It's not eye damage. I can see in the dark, but some people in this thread make out it's easy to navigate and see things. It's not. Darkness is... dark.

[Phanatic8390]

I think despite the fact that it is actually pretty hard to see at night, I think concessions need to be made for the sake of gameplay. If the full moon level of brightness was forced or even lowered a bit, it would make night gameplay more compelling. Maybe it's just me but I don't find straining to see 2 feet in front of me very fun.

There are just far too many risks associated with traveling at night. I mean if they are striving for realism (despite zombies) then I'll just do what anyone else traveling in the woods does at night... Wait for the sun to come up

[Confidence Man]

Ugh. Got a broken leg in the middle of nowhere and no morphine. Managed to crawl into a town that doesn't even have a name on the map and find a house. Not sure if it's worth server hopping in the hopes that morphine will spawn. Have a lot of good equipment though.

[Blizzard]

I think despite the fact that it is actually pretty hard to see at night, I think concessions need to be made for the sake of gameplay. If the full moon level of brightness was forced or even lowered a bit, it would make night gameplay more compelling. Maybe it's just me but I don't find straining to see 2 feet in front of me very fun. There are just far too many risks associated with traveling at night. I mean if they are striving for realism (despite zombies) then I'll just do what anyone else traveling in the woods does at night... Wait for the sun to come up

Bingo, there are concessions made for realism versus gameplay in most games, presumably.

Ugh. Got a broken leg in the middle of nowhere and no morphine. Managed to crawl into a town that doesn't even have a name on the map and find a house. Not sure if it's worth server hopping in the hopes that morphine will spawn. Have a lot of good equipment though.

Lots of good equipment, you say? Well you could just suicide in your lonely town and then run back to pick it up with a healthy guy, but a better approach would be to ask a friendly GAF bandit to help you. I'm sure they could bring you morphine and totally wouldn't kill you for all your gear.

[Majukun]

but when you die you humanity gets reset and your next character will not have the bandit skin right?

didn't this emans that a big part of the PK out there doesn't wear the bandit skin only because they didn't have enough time to get it?

[Blizzard]

but when you die you humanity gets reset and your next character will not have the bandit skin right? didn't this emans that a big part of the PK out there doesn't wear the bandit skin only because they didn't have enough time to get it?

No, bandit skin stays forever.

[Majukun]

No, bandit skin stays forever.

and you can never come back to the normal skin even if you change your behavior in he next playthroughs?

[gutterboy44]

The full darkness of night in this game is one of the best parts. Get some chem lights and move out. If you suspect someone is stalking you, or hear shots, drop down and extinguish the chem light.

Going on long treks in the dead of night with just a map and compass (no gps dot) is so rewarding. Finding landmarks, using roads, etc. If it was always a well lit full moon night it would ruin it.

A cloudy night in deep woods is 100% black, not even your hand in front of your face. And you know what, NVG goggles hardly do shit either in full darkness. They need light to amplify. I did countless night maneuvers in real life during my time in a scout platoon in the Army National Guard. In the middle of Ft. Drum with heavy cloud cover, you aren't seeing a fucking thing. You have to use IR chem lights and other means.

There is nothing profound about night having this balance of pros and cons and Dayz has these and I love it for it.

[drizzle]

and you can never come back to the normal skin even if you change your behavior in he next playthroughs?

Helping others (bandaging, giving morphine, transfusing blood) brings your humanity back up. It also ticks up by itself, but that takes a long-ass time.

[Confidence Man]

Lots of good equipment, you say? Well you could just suicide in your lonely town and then run back to pick it up with a healthy guy, but a better approach would be to ask a friendly GAF bandit to help you. I'm sure they could bring you morphine and totally wouldn't kill you for all your gear.

I suppose. I'm way the hell up north though, near Gvodzno. Would probably take less time just to reacquire everything.

[Foliorum Viridum]

Crumbs, Gen X and I have a huge fight for our lives.

Thank fuck for those tents! Only Crumbs and I made it out alive...

This is after I had held Gen X's gear for 24 hours and had just given it back to him, too :( Your resident bandit is getting soft.

[subversus]

CliffyB retweeted the mod to his followers. It seems that servers will have problems with capacity for a long time.

[Black-Box]

CliffyB retweeted the mod to his followers. It seems that servers will have problems with capacity for a long time.

oh god, more famous people can not be allowed to mention this game till the severs can handle all the players..or most, I really want to play today :(

[Phanatic8390]

CliffyB retweeted the mod to his followers. It seems that servers will have problems with capacity for a long time.

I wouldn't worry about it. It's not like PC gamers are following Epic these days.

[MickeyKnox]

Seriously, somebody update the OP with a heads up to people who are complaining about the nights:

TURN YOUR HDR SETTING TO VERY HIGH

[Teknoman]

Seriously, somebody update the OP with a heads up to people who are complaining about the nights: TURN YOUR HDR SETTING TO VERY HIGH

I think i just need to use road flares. HDR is high, and while I can see the skyline and zombie figures, its still a little too dark. Can you hold flares or do you just throw them down?

[Krappadizzle]

Seriously, somebody update the OP with a heads up to people who are complaining about the nights: TURN YOUR HDR SETTING TO VERY HIGH

Mickey, I have it maxed, if your monitor has dark blacks it really won't make a huge difference. Though one of our crew is usually on and they'll usually help me get around until the moon comes out. Especially if your around you like to flare bait anybody.

[MickeyKnox]

I think i just need to use road flares. HDR is high, and while I can see the skyline and zombie figures, its still a little too dark. Can you hold flares or do you just throw them down?

You throw them down then you can pick them up and walk around

Mickey, I have it maxed, if your monitor has dark blacks it really won't make a huge difference. Though one of our crew is usually on and they'll usually help me get around until the moon comes out. Especially if your around you like to flare bait anybody.

Try calibrating your monitor's brightness and contrast through it's control panel.

[Mafro]

Not liking these new zombie sounds at all, it's far too hard to tell if you've aggro'd one now.

[animlboogy]

Is it still worth getting CO for this or are there rumblings of a standalone version?

[Jhriad]

Is it still worth getting CO for this or are there rumblings of a standalone version?

Amazon downloadable version is $15 today. I doubt even a standalone version would be cheaper than that.

[MickeyKnox]

Is it still worth getting CO for this or are there rumblings of a standalone version?

Not gonna happen any time in the near future.

[animlboogy]

Thanks for the replies. I'm gonna pick it up.

[Palmer_v1]

Amazon downloadable version is $15 today. I doubt even a standalone version would be cheaper than that.

God help me, but I bought it. I tried to resist. Tried so hard. Then I watched a Nix stream. It was a comedy of errors and panic that I just have to be a part of.

[Gen X]

Crumbs, Gen X and I have a huge fight for our lives. Thank fuck for those tents! Only Crumbs and I made it out alive... This is after I had held Gen X's gear for 24 hours and had just given it back to him, too :( Your resident bandit is getting soft.

Man I had some incredible bad luck in those early rounds tonite. Instantly dying from another Zed hit, one hit and I died from clipping a building after all that running from East Electro. THen making the run again from East Electro to Nadezhdino only to be totally overcome by Zeds at the last second when you entered the stables. I broke a bone and needed bandaging, something that was difficult with those amount of zombies around.

Next round though when you and Crumbs were up in Vyshnoye I started heading up then met with Mickey at Mogilevka. This is where it got interesting. I had exited the stable and was over to Mickeys left when a bandit appeared out of my line of sight but in Mickeys. Mickey got assassinated and the stoooooopid Bandit didn't check his Six. All I had was the default pistol, took the Bandit down and took his shotgun, matches, map, compass, binoculars, Mickeys Alice Pack, everything I could.

Mickey worked his way back up to Mogilevka and we worked our way slowly through the town, swapping supplies and crawling past Zeds till we were out of town. Up to a Castle a few clicks away, Mickeys PC crashed but thankfully he respawned a few mins away. Eventually got up to Stary Sober, stood our ground in the Barn just a hundred meters from the Army Tents. While we were scoping the area (I think we had shot some Zeds by this time) I noticed someone peek out from the nearby stables. They hadn't seen me, only Mickey. As he strafed out to get a good shot at Mick I fired 3 quick successive shots from the shotgun. Down he went. We raided the Army Tents, got some good shit and then we moved away and logged off for the time being. After 45+hrs of playing I am now a Bandit for the first time from that last kill.

That last round has been one of my more successful rounds.

[childplease]

What's your location and server ill come help you.

[Gustav]

I think i just need to use road flares. HDR is high, and while I can see the skyline and zombie figures, its still a little too dark. Can you hold flares or do you just throw them down?

You can pick them up with the mouswheel menu after throwing them.

[TheNiX]

Anyone got a link to the Deer Stand map?

[gutterboy44]

Anyone got a link to the Deer Stand map?

dayzmod.info is your friend.

http://dayzmod.info/images/mapdeerstand.jpg

[WedgeX]

Some shit went down tonight. Near the beginning of my journey, I came across two helicopters perched on the side of a slope inside Mogilevka. Neither could be repaired, but they both had working miniguns. They were really loud and shot fast! Sorry again, Nix! So this guy comes strolling up a hill near Elektrozavodsk, right? Got a real mean look to him. And we're near a coastal city, so we're all on edge. I could've shot him right there, but I'm a nice guy. I call out on the mic real proper-like, "Sir! Excuse me, sir!" He keeps coming! "Kindly gentlesir! Please state your busi-" And before I can finish the sentence, he rounds a tree, turns around, and goes prone. Very rude! But I, being of strong continence, continue to speak into the talking machine, hoping to gain his attention. Anyway, long story short, I shoot him and loot him. Ten minutes later, I discover it was someone from our group. Oops. So, like I said before, some shit went down tonight. I think we ended up killing... four or five people in Stary Sobor. The first victims came from the east. I was in the bushes north of the tents, away from the main group, when I spotted two survivors across a field. They were traveling south along a row of bushes. One of the survivors stopped, while the other moved ahead. After some back and forth on the mic, we came to realize there was at least one more person in the group -- and he was a bandit, no less. In typical NeoGAF fashion, we spent the next 10 minutes figuring out what to do. "Let's flank to the right." "No, let's shoot!" "We need a better position." "Let's wait until they leave the tents." "They're moving! They're moving!" Now, I'm not sure who shot first. All I remember is a survivor staring straight at us and a shot ringing out. The group that flanked right had our only casualty with Broken being gunned down. I think we found, what, three bodies in the camp? Two survivors and a bandit. The last victim was a lone survivor. I don't know which direction he came from, but he entered the tents from the east like the others. We thought he might be taken out from the horde of zombies he attracted, buuuuuuuut nope! He popped smoke, hunkered down in a tent, and survived. Rather than wait for him to poke his head out, a group approached his impromptu fortress. As I recall, it was Wizzard who went first and was gunned down. Thankfully, the survivor died in the end. That's what he got for existing near us.

Beautiful.

[Gustav]

dayzmod.info is your friend. http://dayzmod.info/images/mapdeerstand.jpg

Nooooo - why did I click on this. Now I am spoiled. :(

[wolfmat]

The deerstands amount to cheating in my mind. You go like north of Kamenka, go through those three deerstands, wait for save, log into another server, repeat ad nauseum. If you're not decked out after 3 servers, you've got some bad luck.

[Vlodril]

Why do they made the characters need to eat and drink every 30 mins with one hour when the world is on a 24 hour real life cycle?

So annoying.

[Gustav]

Beautiful.

No. That's terrible. God, I hate bandits.

[gutterboy44]

The deerstands amount to cheating in my mind. You go like north of Kamenka, go through those three deerstands, wait for save, log into another server, repeat ad nauseum. If you're not decked out after 3 servers, you've got some bad luck.

Every game has an exploit somewhere. It is whether or not you choose to do it. Getting gear isn't the end all be all in this game. You get the gear so you can go on adventures! Also, dear stands have zeds at them now so it isn't just walk in walk out. Moreover, get all the hot shit gear you want, you are still one mouse click away from losing it and passing on all that work to someone else. That is what I love, no one is safe.

[Gen X]

Why do they made the characters need to eat and drink every 30 mins with one hour when the world is on a 24 hour real life cycle? So annoying.

Have you tried running continuously for 30 mins without a drink irl? Pretty sure you'd like to whet your whistle.

[Klyka]

Why do they made the characters need to eat and drink every 30 mins with one hour when the world is on a 24 hour real life cycle? So annoying.

Because food would be completely worthless then cause you would never live long enough to get properly hungry`.

[TheNiX]

dayzmod.info is your friend. http://dayzmod.info/images/mapdeerstand.jpg

That one sucks :( There's a better one where they're indicated as blocks with an point at the bottom.

[gutterboy44]

That one sucks :( There's a better one where they're indicated as blocks with an point at the bottom.

Well sooorry. haha. This one? http://i.imgur.com/YdScL.jpg

[Steeven]

I installed this at my brother because he isn't really into installing mods. I booted the game to see if it worked properly. I joined a server and spawned on the beach. Next to me spawns another survivor. He looks at me and starts shooting, no questions asked. So I lay down and hide behind a rock. I'm in 3rd person view and he can't see me, because I see him looking for me. At some point he reloads, I stand up and shoot him. 'Player1 has been killed'. I think I teached that noob a lesson.

PS: Good to see ArmA 2 sales are still going strong.

[Freep5637]

Disclaimer: alpha blah blah blah

But just wanted to vent, keep stocking up on gear and disconnecting from the server like the second I set out to do anything fun. Wah. And this last time the game randomly killed me in a field with no one around, no gun shot from the distance, nothing.

[Salacious Crumb]

Foli, Gen X and I being ambushed in Nadezhdino, this time with mumble recorded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfb8L...ature=youtu.be

[Gen X]

The only disconnecting I've done on purpose is to swap servers when the sun starts coming up so I can join another night time one and stalk people in the woods. Man it's awesome.

[gutabo]

I'm pimping this amazon sale with my online friends(about 9 guys), but they can't download it from Amazon(they live outside the states). They have a question, if they download ArmA 2 and OA from some other place and they buy the amazon offer, will they be able to use the serials from amazon? Also, do they get 2 serials from amazon(one for Arma 2 and the other for OA) if they buy that offer or it's just one serial for "Combined Operations" and they have to get that instead?

Thanks in advance!

[subversus]

I wouldn't worry about it. It's not like PC gamers are following Epic these days.

Even if only 30% of Cliffy's followers are PC gamers it's 45000 potential players.

[Foliorum Viridum]

Foli, Gen X and I being ambushed in Nadezhdino, this time with mumble recorded. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfb8L...ature=youtu.be

Quality getting this view of it too!