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Nirolak
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(05-04-2012, 01:03 AM)
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All right, here we go.

Old Thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=472679

-Releasing 2013 for PC/Mac
-Developed by ZeniMax Online Studios
-MMORPG
-250 Person Team
-Started development in 2007
-"This time, saving the world from the awakening of ancient evil is only the beginning. What happens when hundreds or thousands of prophesied heroes all think that they should be Emperor?"
-The game is fully voice acted
-Third person perspective
-The game uses a hotbar to activate skills like other traditional MMOs
-Visually it looks like other Hero Engine MMOs like SWTOR
-The general art style is kind of like RIFT or Everquest 2
-You can't be a werewolf or vampire
-Crafting, alchemy, and soul stones will exist in an unrevealed form
-There will be Daedric Princes like Molag Bal, the primary antagonist, and Vaermina, "whose sphere of influence extends to the dream world and the nightmares of mortals", along with some unnamed others
-Constellations will be in the game a la Mundus stones (which work like guardian stones) and also give the answer to things like block puzzles where you step on the blocks in a certain order
-Tons of towns ranging from Imperial City, Windhelm, Daggerfall, Sentinel, Mournhold, Ebonheart, Elden Root, Shornhelm, Evermore, Riften, and a lot more
-Radiant AI will not be present
-There will be mounts, but no flying mounts
-Fast travel exists in the game in the form of wayshrines, which are also your ressurection point, and you can teleport from one wayshrine to any other wayshrine you have already visited
-There most likely won't be dragons
-Sneaking will be in the game, but how it is implemented is undecided
-They're not talking about pets right now
-There will be no player housing
-There will be no NPC romances or marriage
-"It needs to be comfortable for people who are coming in from a typical massively multiplayer game that has the same control mechanisms, but it also has to appeal to Skyrim players."
-Features most of Tamriel including Skyrim, Morrowind, Summerset Isle, and Elseweyr.
-"Not all provinces are included in their entirety; Zenimax Online is keeping large areas inaccessible to save them for use as expansion content. Nonetheless, every major area is represented to some extent."
-As an example, Windhelm is fully implemented, but Winterhold and the mages' college won't be in at launch.
-There are three player factions:
--Ebonheart Pact: The Nords, Dunmer, and Argoninans
--Aldmeri Dominion: Altmer, Bosmer, and Khajit
--Daggerfall Covenant: Bretons, Redguard, and Orcs
-"Recreateing the freedom Elder Scrolls players expect within the World of Warcraft-style mechanics Zenimax Online is using for this MMO would be impossible without changing the way that players interact with the world."
-As such, the game uses a hubless design
-For example, you don't necessarily pick up a quest to do the following, but if you kill all the necromancers in an undead barrow, a shade you free at the end will reward you.
-However, to help you find these events, various NPCs you talk to will tell you where they are happening and put a marker pointing them on your map, which is obviously totally different than receiving a quest.
-Not all quests will have NPCs that indicate where they are
-The game uses MMORPG genre standards such as classes, experience points, and other traditional MMORPG progression mechanics, but they try to present it "around the core fantasy presented by traditiona Elder Scrolls games" such as traveling around and righting wrongs or seeking riches
-The game world is very large relative to Skyrim
-You can explore almost anything you can see
-the game is set 1000 years in the past
-You can't master every discipline
-The imperials are an enemy to all three factions, lead by the noble Tharn family and the King of Worms, Mannimarco, and are hatching a plot to take over all of Tamriel
-But BEHOLD, Mannicmarco is scheming with Daedric prince Molag Bal to take over the world behind the Tharn's back
-Also, your soul has already been stolen by Molag Bal, which is the reason you can come back from death over and over again, and the starting plot is that you're fighting Molag Bal to get your soul back from him
-Hitting the level cap takes about 120 hours
-Each faction has their own leveling content
-An example quest is the story of Camlorn, where you have to stop evil werewolves who have their eyes set on conquest. First, you have to do a "standard MMO kill and collection quest" to sto ghosts from attacking some mages and soldiers. The ghosts are reliving a battle that the werewolf leader was in. You summon a ghost to find out what's going on, and the ghost tells you to wear her dead husband's armor to re-experience the battle he died in. You then get transported hundreds of years into the past to fight this battle. During this battle, you can choose to save the dead man's wife or to pursue the Werewolf leader. ZeniMax chooses to save the man's wife, who then tells you that the Werewolf leader is weak to fire. This information is helpful when you fight him, but you don't actually need to do this quest before fighting the werewolf leader if you don't want to. Basically, you can skip parts of quest chains if you want, but you get some benefit for playing the whole thing. Also, whenever you go back to the town you just saved, everything there hails you as a hero.
-The game features three faction PvP where you fight to take over keeps and use trebuchets and other siege weapons to help do it. At the high end, you can have 100 v 100 battles. There are also farms and mines you can try to take over. Mots of this happens in Cyrodiil where your goal is to take over and hold the Imperial City to get faction wide bonuses for it. If you have played Dark Age of Camelot, this probably sounds familiar. For those who haven't, essentially the entire zone is a giant PvP area will all sorts of points of interest.
-The most accomplished PvP player on your faction becomes emperor whenever you take over the capital
-When you take over Cyrodiil, you will be able to adventure in it as a hostile city a la Kvatch
-The game will have raids and heroic modes for its dungeons as end game content in addition to faction PvP
-There is also balanced PvP for people who prefer eSports
-The game will also have high end public dungeons
-Public dungeons are essentially instances that aren't actually instanced, so anyone can be in them, so imagine a World of Warcraft dungeon that featured everyone on the server in the area instead of just your party
-There are standard instanced dungeons as well
-Back on the topic of the skillbar, you have a limited number of skills you can use at any given time, and can change them whenever you're out of combat
-The number of skills is equal to (paraphrase) "a light and heavy attack with your current weapon that take up the first two slots, a few more spells related to your class, and an ultimate in the last slot".
-The ultimate is used once you gain enough finesse, which is earned by doing well in combat
-You also get a bonus loot chest if you're soloing and max your finesse, and you can also build finesse by comboing with other players
-For example, a rogue can put oil on the ground that a mage can set on fire
-A fighter can also spin in the firestorm a mage puts down, which sends out fireballs
-If you've seen Guild Wars 2 videos, the above will seem familiar
-You can't combo with the abilities of enemy players though, so if an enemy faction player drops an oil slick, you can't set it on fire
-The Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood will be presented, but in what form isn't detailed as their contnet is hard to recreate in an MMO setting
-NPCs will try to work together and use player like behavior when fighting you, and (at least to my understanding) have stamina as well
-They want the AI to be good, so instead of enemies in a dungeon sitting around and waiting to be pulled, you will be attacked by the entire room and they will try to react to how you are playing
-The claim was not demo'ed to Game Informer
-You destroy dark anchors to gain reputation with the Fighter's Guild. They are large hooks that fall from the sky pseudorandomly and have Daedric guardians next to them. They are easier to kill with a group, and once destroyed, everyone who participated gets a reputation boost with the Fighter's Guild, and eventually nets you rewards like new skills and abilities.
-The combat model will not be real time due to latency
-The combat is based around a stamina bar which you can use to sprint, block, interrupt, and break incapacitating effects
-Blocking is the primary focus of these abilities, and can do things like stopping the secondary effects of attacks such as an ice spell slowing you
-Stamina also applies to PvP, so stamina management (and wearing down your enemy's stamina) is important, as your crowd control abilities might be on a long cooldown, and if you use them before the enemy player runs out of stamina, they will probably just block the effect
-ZeniMax feels that having the stamina bar will help break down the Holy Trinity as stamina allows you to do things like tank
-However, healing is still a big part of the game
-There is also no aggro mechanic in the game, which is part of the reason stamina blocking and healing exist

And I think that's everything super major. There is still a fair amount about PvP and questing in the article, so feel free to check it out if you're interested in the game.

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Old Stuff:



Long rumored and much anticipated, The Elder Scrolls Online is finally being unveiled in the June issue of Game Informer. In this month's cover story we journey across the entire land of Tamriel, from Elsweyr to Skyrim and everywhere in between.

Developed by the team at Zenimax Online Studios, The Elder Scrolls Online merges the unmatched exploration of rich worlds that the franchise is known for with the scale and social aspects of a massively multiplayer online role-playing game. Players will discover an entirely new chapter of Elder Scrolls history in this ambitious world, set a millennium before the events of Skyrim as the daedric prince Molag Bal tries to pull all of Tamriel into his demonic realm.

"It will be extremely rewarding finally to unveil what we have been developing the last several years," said game director and MMO veteran Matt Firor, whose previous work includes Mythic's well-received Dark Age of Camelot. "The entire team is committed to creating the best MMO ever made – and one that is worthy of The Elder Scrolls franchise."

An in-depth look at everything from solo questing to public dungeons awaits in our enormous June cover story – as well as a peek at the player-driven PvP conflict that pits the three player factions against each other in open-world warfare over the province of Cyrodiil and the Emperor's throne itself.

Come back tomorrow morning for a brief teaser trailer from Zenimax Online and Bethesda Softworks, and later on in the afternoon for the first screenshot of the game. Over the course of the month, be sure to visit our Elder Scrolls Online hub, which will feature new exclusive content multiple times each week. You'll meet the three player factions, see video interviews with the creative leads, and much more.

The Elder Scrolls Online is scheduled to come out in 2013 for both PC and Macintosh.

Last edited by Nirolak; 05-04-2012 at 02:38 AM.
spirity
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(05-04-2012, 01:04 AM)
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I adore ES, but I'm just not down with this.
Ether_Snake
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(05-04-2012, 01:04 AM)
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Ugh, sounds really disappointing. Not surprised. It would take a lot of time to make a great Elder Scrolls MMO that lives up to Skyrim.

I'll wait for the next one by the Skyrim team instead. Co-op and a bit of optional PVP would be fine to me, no need for an outright MMO. This is not the good direction for the series.
SatelliteOfLove
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(05-04-2012, 01:06 AM)
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"I'm the Dovahkiin!"

"I'm the Dovahkiin!"

"I'm the Dovahkiin!"
Alrus
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(05-04-2012, 01:06 AM)
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It will look like Rift? Blergh =/

Outside of that it sounds really really really generic :| I know the Elder Scrolls IP is very strong right now but I don't think the name alone will cut it...
Last edited by Alrus; 05-04-2012 at 01:09 AM.
kuroshiki
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(05-04-2012, 01:07 AM)
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They stand no chance unless F2P
Elixist
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(05-04-2012, 01:07 AM)
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Lol sounds bad and generic, I think people like myself want the first person, housing, Skyrim style combat etc. not Elder Scrolls of Warcraft meh.
Loudninja
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Food for thought.
(05-04-2012, 01:07 AM)
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I dont really like the sound of any of this.
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(05-04-2012, 01:08 AM)
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Originally Posted by SatelliteOfLove

"I'm the Dovahkiin!"

"I'm the Dovahkiin!"

"I'm the Dovahkiin!"

Better with Kinect for Windows.™
Joe Shlabotnik
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(05-04-2012, 01:09 AM)
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This is sounding verrry boilerplate so far.
Abylim
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(05-04-2012, 01:09 AM)
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Reposted from old thread (Was the last post)

To everyone saying "zomg bethesda isnt making this it will be fine" look at fallout 3 > new vegas. Bethesda made 3, obsidian made nv. Still buggy as all fuck.

So you know what, some of us associate Elder scrolls with bugs. Like some people do with fallout.

Heres hoping it isnt the same. Heres hoping its completely bug free and fucking fantastic. But its an elder scrolls game. Thats what matters.

Yes, most are just saying Bethesda is making it, but even taking that away, and saying its someone else isnt very comforting to me, atleast.

Defnitely a wait and see, for me.

EDIT: Yes, I'm a ps3 player, which after thinking about it, could be a lot of my issue. This is being developed for PC, so thats a plus.
Also, sorry if this has been mentioned already, read the first 4 pages and thought I'd chime in!


Even further edit: No real time combat is a deal breaker for me anyways... wtf? This sounds more like an Elder Scrolls themed mmo, not an actual ES MMO.
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(05-04-2012, 01:09 AM)
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"This time, saving the world from the awakening of ancient evil is only the beginning. What happens when hundreds or thousands of prophesied heroes all think that they should be Emperor?"

"This time, saving the world from the awakening of ancient evil

awakening of ancient evil



Anyway, I'm down for an Elder Scrolls MMO. Dark Age of Camelot designers on the PVP team is a huge plus, although I'm not sure how excited I can get about this article when a good portion of things I find interesting about MMOs (player housing, largely text-driven dialogue) are out and the things I find interesting about The Elder Scrolls (unscripted AI, the danger of becoming a vampire, etc) are also out. This article makes this sound so... standard.
chickdigger802
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(05-04-2012, 01:09 AM)
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An mmo with no aggro?

Someone give me an example.
BobLoblaw
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Turrible.
Izayoi
(05-04-2012, 01:10 AM)
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Hahaha, it looks so bad. I just... I really don't get it. Even Gamebryo would've been better than Hero Engine. What were they thinking?
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No word on sub vs F2P?
FStop7
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(05-04-2012, 01:10 AM)
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No vampire/werewolf - strike 1.
No dragons - strike 2.
No player housing - strike 3.
Snuggles
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(05-04-2012, 01:11 AM)
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Nice work with the deets.

Anyways, I got a teeny bit excited when I first read the news, but the details are disappointing. I like the idea of an Elder Scrolls game populated by real people, rather than soulless automatons, but this just sounds really dull. Maybe I'm too quick to judge, but I can't help but expect another run of the mill, diluted MMORPG experience with the ES license tacked on.

Plus, SWOTOR and Rift are a couple of fuckin' ugly games. Particularly SWOTOR, I hate the character design. At least Skyrim was pretty.
Fermbiz
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(05-04-2012, 01:11 AM)
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Always wanted at least a 2 player co-op....never asked for an MMO.
Derrick01
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(05-04-2012, 01:12 AM)
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Man almost all of that sounds terrible.
Pollux
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(05-04-2012, 01:12 AM)
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Can't fucking wait.
Loudninja
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Food for thought.
(05-04-2012, 01:12 AM)
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To me it does not sound like a MMO.
Abylim
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(05-04-2012, 01:13 AM)
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The more I read, the more I dont want.

Probably doesnt help I'm burnt out on MMO's to begin with. Guess I just thought this would be different.. No NPC romance, either? Bah.
Grivenger
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(05-04-2012, 01:13 AM)
It sounds like a mix between World of Warcraft and Guild Wars 2. Or something that tries to stand in the middle of those two.
Nirolak
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(05-04-2012, 01:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Loudninja

To me it does not sound like a MMO.

I probably did a bad job explaining it then. My apologies.

Originally Posted by zmoney

Can't fucking wait.

Yes, they're the evil 10th faction trying to take over the world and allied with the "KING OF WORMS".
enzo_gt
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(05-04-2012, 01:13 AM)
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Doesn't seem like there's anything particularly special that's grasping for my attention there.
Xavien
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Originally Posted by FStop7

No vampire/werewolf - strike 1.
No dragons - strike 2.
No player housing - strike 3.

Definitely, its like they forgot what makes an Elder Scrolls game.

Third Person too? bleh.

Looks like another The Old Republic.
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(05-04-2012, 01:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by Nirolak

-Releasing 2013 for PC/Mac
-Developed by ZeniMax Online Studios
-MMORPG
-250 Person Team
-Started development in 2007
-"This time, saving the world from the awakening of ancient evil is only the beginning. What happens when hundreds or thousands of prophesied heroes all think that they should be Emperor?"
-The game is fully voice acted
-Third person perspective
-The game uses a hotbar to activate skills like other traditional MMOs
-Visually it looks like other Hero Engine MMOs like RIFT and SWTOR
-The general art style is kind of like RIFT or Everquest 2

-You can't be a werewolf or vampire
-Crafting, alchemy, and soul stones will exist in an unrevealed form
-There will be Daedric Princes like Molag Bal, the primary antagonist, and Vaermina, "whose sphere of influence extends to the dream world and the nightmares of mortals", along with some unnamed others
-Constellations will be in the game a la Mundus stones (which work like guardian stones) and also give the answer to things like block puzzles where you step on the blocks in a certain order
-Tons of towns ranging from Imperial City, Windhelm, Daggerfall, Sentinel, Mournhold, Ebonheart, Elden Root, Shornhelm, Evermore, Riften, and a lot more
-Radiant AI will not be present
-There will be mounts, but no flying mounts
-Fast travel exists in the game in the form of wayshrines, which are also your ressurection point, and you can teleport from one wayshrine to any other wayshrine you have already visited
-There most likely won't be dragons
-Sneaking will be in the game, but how it is implemented is undecided
-They're not talking about pets right now
-There will be no player housing
-There will be no NPC romances or marriage
-"It needs to be comfortable for people who are comign in from a typical massively multiplayer game that has the same control mechanisms, but it also has to appeal to Skyrim players."
-Features most of Tamriel including Skyrim, Morrowind, Summerset Isle, and Elseweyr.
-"Not all provinces are included in their entirety; Zenimax Online is keeping large areas inaccessible to save them for use as expansion content. Nonetheless, every major area is represented to some extent."
-As an example, Windhelm is fully implemented, but Winterhold and the mages' college won't be in at launch.
-There are three player factions:
--Ebonheart Pact: The Nords, Dunmer, and Argoninans
--Aldmeri Dominion: Altmer, Bosmer, and Khajit
--Daggerfall Covenant: Bretons, Redguard, and Orcs
-"Recreateing the freedom Elder Scrolls players expect within the World of Warcraft-style mechanics Zenimax Online is using for this MMO would be impossible without changing the way that players interact with the world."
-As such, the game uses a hubless design
-For example, you don't necessarily pick up a quest to do the following, but if you kill all the necromancers in an undead barrow, a shade you free at the end will reward you.
-However, to help you find these events, various NPCs you talk to will tell you where they are happening and put a marker pointing them on your map, which is obviously totally different than receiving a quest.
-Not all quests will have NPCs that indicate where they are
-The game uses MMORPG genre standards such as classes, experience points, and other traditional MMORPG progression mechanics, but they try to present it "around the core fantasy presented by traditiona Elder Scrolls games" such as traveling around and righting wrongs or seeking riches
-The game world is very large relative to Skyrim
-You can explore almost anything you can see
-the game is set 1000 years in the past
-You can't master every discipline
-The imperials are an enemy to all three factions, lead by the noble Tharn family and the King of Worms, Mannimarco, and are hatching a plot to take over all of Tamriel
-But BEHOLD, Mannicmarco is scheming with Daedric prince Molag Bal to take over the world behind the Tharn's back
-Also, your soul has already been stolen by Molag Bal, which is the reason you can come back from death over and over again, and the starting plot is that you're fighting Molag Bal to get your soul back from him
-Hitting the level cap takes about 120 hours
-Each faction has their own leveling content
-An example quest is the story of Camlorn, where you have to stop evil werewolves who have their eyes set on conquest. First, you have to do a "standard MMO kill and collection quest" to sto ghosts from attacking some mages and soldiers. The ghosts are reliving a battle that the werewolf leader was in. You summon a ghost to find out what's going on, and the ghost tells you to wear her dead husband's armor to re-experience the battle he died in. You then get transported hundreds of years into the past to fight this battle. During this battle, you can choose to save the dead man's wife or to pursue the Werewolf leader. ZeniMax chooses to save the man's wife, who then tells you that the Werewolf leader is weak to fire. This information is helpful when you fight him, but you don't actually need to do this quest before fighting the werewolf leader if you don't want to. Basically, you can skip parts of quest chains if you want, but you get some benefit for playing the whole thing. Also, whenever you go back to the town you just saved, everything there hails you as a hero.
-The game features three faction PvP where you fight to take over keeps and use trebuchets and other siege weapons to help do it. At the high end, you can have 100 v 100 battles. There are also farms and mines you can try to take over. Mots of this happens in Cyrodiil where your goal is to take over and hold the Imperial City to get faction wide bonuses for it. If you have played Dark Age of Camelot, this probably sounds familiar. For those who haven't, essentially the entire zone is a giant PvP area will all sorts of points of interest.
-The most accomplished PvP player on your faction becomes emperor whenever you take over the capital
-When you take over Cyrodiil, you will be able to adventure in it as a hostile city a la Kvatch
-The game will have raids and heroic modes for its dungeons as end game content in addition to faction PvP
-There is also balanced PvP for people who prefer eSports
-The game will also have high end public dungeons
-Public dungeons are essentially instances that aren't actually instanced, so anyone can be in them, so imagine a World of Warcraft dungeon that featured everyone on the server in the area instead of just your party
-There are standard instanced dungeons as well
-Back on the topic of the skillbar, you have a limited number of skills you can use at any given time, and can change them whenever you're out of combat
-The number of skills is equal to (paraphrase) "a light and heavy attack with your current weapon that take up the first two slots, a few more spells related to your class, and an ultimate in the last slot".
-The ultimate is used once you gain enough finesse, which is earned by doing well in combat
-You also get a bonus loot chest if you're soloing and max your finesse, and you can also build finesse by comboing with other players
-For example, a rogue can put oil on the ground that a mage can set on fire
-A fighter can also spin in the firestorm a mage puts down, which sends out fireballs
-If you've seen Guild Wars 2 videos, the above will seem familiar
-You can't combo with the abilities of enemy players though, so if an enemy faction player drops an oil slick, you can't set it on fire
-The Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood will be presented, but in what form isn't detailed as their contnet is hard to recreate in an MMO setting
-NPCs will try to work together and use player like behavior when fighting you, and (at least to my understanding) have stamina as well
-They want the AI to be good, so instead of enemies in a dungeon sitting around and waiting to be pulled, you will be attacked by the entire room and they will try to react to how you are playing
-The claim was not demo'ed to Game Informer
-You destroy dark anchors to gain reputation with the Fighter's Guild. They are large hooks that fall from the sky pseudorandomly and have Daedric guardians next to them. They are easier to kill with a group, and once destroyed, everyone who participated gets a reputation boost with the Fighter's Guild, and eventually nets you rewards like new skills and abilities.
-The combat model will not be real time due to latency
-The combat is based around a stamina bar which you can use to sprint, block, interrupt, and break incapacitating effects
-Blocking is the primary focus of these abilities, and can do things like stopping the secondary effects of attacks such as an ice spell slowing you
-Stamina also applies to PvP, so stamina management (and wearing down your enemy's stamina) is important, as your crowd control abilities might be on a long cooldown, and if you use them before the enemy player runs out of stamina, they will probably just block the effect
-ZeniMax feels that having the stamina bar will help break down the Holy Trinity as stamina allows you to do things like tank
-However, healing is still a big part of the game
-There is also no aggro mechanic in the game, which is part of the reason stamina blocking and healing exist

sigh

talk about not what people wanted at all
JoeBoy101
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(05-04-2012, 01:14 AM)
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Not liking the sound of this. I was a bit tepid about Skyrim before we started seeing videos, but the mechanics of this makes me VERY wary. Plus, third-person?

Fail.
Loudninja
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(05-04-2012, 01:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by Nirolak

I probably did a bad job explaining it then. My apologies.



Yes, they're the evil 10th faction trying to take over the world and allied with the "KING OF WORMS".

No you did fine.
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(05-04-2012, 01:15 AM)
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-Hitting the level cap takes about 120 hours

You serious Zenimax? I can do this in my sleep.
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(05-04-2012, 01:16 AM)
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So it's the Elder Scrolls, except with most of the actual role-playing elements either nerfed or removed entirely. Got it.
Nirolak
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Originally Posted by Loudninja

No you did fine.

It unfortunately looks like a pretty standard MMO that's more of an evolution of Dark Age of Camelot than Elder Scrolls.
Jake Tower
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(05-04-2012, 01:16 AM)
Why the fuck would Nords, Dunmer, and Argonians ally together?

This shit sounds DUMB.
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"Third person perspective"
-The combat model will not be real time due to latency

Im out.....sadly.
Foliorum Viridum
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Yup, sounds like a traditional MMO.

What a shame. Maybe one day someone will make an interesting game in the genre.
CarbonatedFalcon
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(05-04-2012, 01:17 AM)
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Tentatively interested?

Although for this game especially (after playing SWTOR, also on HeroEngine), I'd probably wait at least 3-6 months before buying. Launch will be a clusterfuck.

I wouldn't trust going Day 1 on any MMO nowadays except for WoW expansions and whatever Titan ends up being.
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(05-04-2012, 01:17 AM)
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Should be interesting to see where this one lands. I'm not the Elder Scrolls fan in the family and my better half isn't interested in this one bit - she would rather play GW2 atm.

If its subscription based then it's probably written its own future unless they bring something revolutionary to the table.
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(05-04-2012, 01:17 AM)
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Do not want.
Loudninja
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(05-04-2012, 01:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by disappeared

So it's the Elder Scrolls, except with most of the actual role-playing elements either nerfed or removed entirely. Got it.

Yeah not sure whats up with that.

Originally Posted by Nirolak

It unfortunately looks like a pretty standard MMO that's more of an evolution of Dark Age of Camelot than Elder Scrolls.

Its sounds very bland to me.
milsorgen
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(05-04-2012, 01:18 AM)
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From exciting to lackluster in record time. Good job¿
NullPointer
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(05-04-2012, 01:19 AM)
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-Radiant AI will not be present
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-The game uses MMORPG genre standards such as classes, experience points, and other traditional MMORPG progression mechanics, but they try to present it "around the core fantasy presented by traditiona Elder Scrolls games" such as traveling around and righting wrongs or seeking riches
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-The combat model will not be real time due to latency

Its not like I was likely to play an MMO as it was, but this just guarantees that I won't go anywhere near this.
Pollux
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(05-04-2012, 01:19 AM)
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Is it even technologically possible to make a MMO with the graphics of Morrowind...or similar, or just below, etc....in first person. And have it play like a regular Elder Scrolls game, with real time combat, and many of the other things that are in an ES game?
Artanisix
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(05-04-2012, 01:19 AM)
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Game looks like ass... Seriously... I have the latest issue of Game Informer and ugh those screenshots are NOT pretty.
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(05-04-2012, 01:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by zmoney

Is it even technologically possible to make a MMO with the graphics of Morrowind...or similar, or just below, etc....in first person. And have it play like a regular Elder Scrolls game, with real time combat, and many of the other things that are in an ES game?

There are quite a few MMOs these days that are basically realtime, but none of them are built on the Hero Engine to my knowledge.
Snuggles
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(05-04-2012, 01:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by speedpop

If its subscription based then it's probably written its own future unless they bring something revolutionary to the table.

Yeah, a subscription fee (on top of what I assume will be $60) will likely be enough to kill any morbid curiosity I could have in trying this. Oh well, maybe when it's F2P...
KorrZ
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(05-04-2012, 01:20 AM)
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So...WoW with an Elder Scrolls paint job basically. Nice work Zenimax Online! Third Person, hotkey based non-real time combat with classes and levels instead of skills....lol, why even call this Elder Scrolls? Oh yeah...money. I was optimistic in the original cover reveal thread but this sound fucking terrible.
Arcteryx
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(05-04-2012, 01:20 AM)
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120 hours to max cap? wtf is this?


If they charge $60 + $15/month for that I'm going to laugh pretty hard.
SafeinSound
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(05-04-2012, 01:21 AM)
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Really not happy with the engine they are using.

Some of the other stuff sounds pretty good.


120 hours to hit level cap sounds pretty short to me.
spirity
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(05-04-2012, 01:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jake Tower

Why the fuck would Nords, Dunmer, and Argonians ally together?

This shit sounds DUMB.

Most lore can be completely revised in just a few lines of text from the lore writer. Happens all the time in MMO's when gameplay/mechanics require it. It's probably the reason why the game takes place 1000 years prior to the events in Skyrim.

But yeah, its still dumb, I agree with you.

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