[Satch]

I assumed that the fear had been sexual, but this is also true.

When I said "attacked", I meant it to include the fear of rape, along with other forms of violence.

The statistics showing the majority of rapes to be through acquaintances does not negate the fear of being dragged into the bushes at night by a masked rapist.

[JokerOfSpades]

I take it you missed the thread in which a prominent atheist woman talked about getting propositioned in an elevator and suffered hell for it. Even Dawkins was patronizing her.

I did... I can honestly understand the reasons why women may find certain things creepy. It's why I still refuse to just grab onto a girl and dance with her. Attacking someone for trying to keep themselves safe is stupid.

Also Dawkins is an asshole.

[marrec]

I'm just saying even when we're honest about stuff that makes us uncomfortable we suffer for it.

Oh I know... it was a harsh reality that a lot of us in the Atheist community were forced to face, but I think some people have forgotten that it ever happened.

[The Hermit]

3.) Playing Hard to Get is a Good Idea

God fucking dammit this just happened to me today... though I think she was playing with me, I dunno.

well, fuck her.

EDIT: what the fuck happened to this thread?!

[Timedog]

I guess. I was never trying to imply that it was their fault. I remember when Devo was talking about it a while ago (before my account was approved), I was rolling around the question in my mind as to whether it had mattered or not. I came to the conclusion that it still wasn't their fault. But looking at Mr Jamaica 1979's post, I guess he's right - words like that do serve to put the attention in the wrong place - I'm just specific about such statements, I guess. I meant no blame towards the women. The example I came up with (and I've no idea if it's offensive or not - I'll repeat my plea of ignorance a third time) was that wearing a bulletproof vest or armor all the time would prevent people getting shot. But we should not (and as you can see) don't wear that all the time, and we shouldn't be required to (war is something entirely different). Nor should women be forced to dress differently than they want to dress to prevent anything. The responsibility is on the guys to not rape, period. And that's something we should always remember.

Well alright.

[JokerOfSpades]

3.) Playing Hard to Get is a Good Idea God fucking dammit this just happened to me today... though I think she was playing with me, I dunno. well, fuck her. EDIT: what the fuck happened to this thread?!

Chaos, arguments... I guess I'll accept the blame on that.

[Veezy]

I'm sorry, I'm still hung up on the "vaginas get looser" comment.

We all know that the vagina isn't lined with Play-Doh that you can just shape to whatever mold you want, right? I mean, it's a human orifice, not a god damned bowl of ice cream.

I mean, we do all know that? Right?

Because, by that logic, every woman who's had a child can stick a watermelon into her uterus with only a slight push. And that's just silly.

Fuckin' A.

[Finaika]

Do our assholes get loose everytime we take a shit?

[KO Traveling Hobo]

Didn't that one pornstar's butt fall out from taking too many dicks?

[JokerOfSpades]

I'm sorry, I'm still hung up on the "vaginas get looser" comment. We all know that the vagina isn't lined with Play-Doh that you can just shape to whatever mold you want, right? I mean, it's a human orifice, not a god damned bowl of ice cream. I mean, we do all know that? Right? Because, by that logic, every woman who's had a child can stick a watermelon into her uterus with only a slight push. And that's just silly. Fuckin' A.

*shrug* Those are the types of things I hear. And I'm not exactly an expert on vaginas.

But I do know the shape does go back to normal after some period. Or so I've heard.

Do assholes get loose everytime we take a shit?

I think it's talking about repeated exposure, it is able to accommodate larger sizes, and isn't as tight anymore... something of the sort.

Didn't that one pornstar's butt fall out from taking too many dicks?

lol

[DangerStepp]

What's this Jersey Shore bullshit?

Nevermind...cracked.com

[squidyj]

I actually read it when he posted it, but I decided to play Minecraft instead.

This was the correct decision, I can't believe this thread's not dead yet.

Speaking as a dude, and therefore representative as long as I support prevailing narratives, I know that if a girl is showing too much skin it's her fault when I am unable to control myself (as is inevitable due to the primitive nature of my development).

It's the worst taking these summer courses, one minute I'm figuring out the basis fucntions to get spherical harmonics lighting as part of a deferred renderer in the lab and the next thing I know I don't know anything at all anymore. Save me from myself ladies, wear a burka.

[JokerOfSpades]

This was the correct decision, I can't believe this thread's not dead yet. Speaking as a dude, and therefore representative as long as I support prevailing narratives, I know that if a girl is showing too much skin it's her fault when I am unable to control myself (as is inevitable due to the primitive nature of my development). It's the worst taking these summer courses, one minute I'm figuring out the basis fucntions to get spherical harmonics lighting as part of a deferred renderer in the lab and the next thing I know I don't know anything at all anymore. Save me from myself ladies, wear a burka.

All cleared up on the last page, mate.

[jaxword]

Do our assholes get loose everytime we take a shit?

Let's find out in 60 years and we meet up in the Adult Diapers section of Wal-Mart.

[shanshan310]

*shrug* Those are the types of things I hear. And I'm not exactly an expert on vaginas. But I do know the shape does go back to normal after some period. Or so I've heard. I think it's talking about repeated exposure, it is able to accommodate larger sizes, and isn't as tight anymore... something of the sort.

I'm pretty sure it has more to do with childbirth and age, and little to do with amount of sex.

[Veezy]

*shrug* Those are the types of things I hear. And I'm not exactly an expert on vaginas. But I do know the shape does go back to normal after some period. Or so I've heard. I think it's talking about repeated exposure, it is able to accommodate larger sizes, and isn't as tight anymore... something of the sort. lol

Ya don't need to be an expert on any-damn-thing! 30 seconds of critical thinking should get you the answer!

"Do women that have babies have a massive vagina?"
"No."

Done.

You need to start surrounding yourself with a higher class of people, because in my 26 years of existence I never seriously thought that vaginas just got bigger and BIGGER and BIGGER until the vagina began to swallow it's mates.

[JokerOfSpades]

I'm pretty sure it has more to do with childbirth and age, and little to do with amount of sex.

Probably so.

Ya don't need to be an expert on any-damn-thing! 30 seconds of critical thinking should get you the answer! "Do women that have babies have a massive vagina?" "No." Done. You need to start surrounding yourself with a higher class of people, because in my 26 years of existence I never seriously thought that vaginas just got bigger and BIGGER and BIGGER until the vagina began to swallow it's mates.

Oh, no - it wasn't like that. It had to do with repeated exposure. That requires a bit more knowledge.

[KO Traveling Hobo]

Ya don't need to be an expert on any-damn-thing! 30 seconds of critical thinking should get you the answer! "Do women that have babies have a massive vagina?" "No." Done. You need to start surrounding yourself with a higher class of people, because in my 26 years of existence I never seriously thought that vaginas just got bigger and BIGGER and BIGGER until the vagina began to swallow it's mates.

Vagina expansion is a pretty popular meme, and not just among the virginal neckbeards. It's not unexpected that a lot of people don't even question it.

[Shouta]

I'm sorry, I'm still hung up on the "vaginas get looser" comment. We all know that the vagina isn't lined with Play-Doh that you can just shape to whatever mold you want, right? I mean, it's a human orifice, not a god damned bowl of ice cream. I mean, we do all know that? Right? Because, by that logic, every woman who's had a child can stick a watermelon into her uterus with only a slight push. And that's just silly. Fuckin' A.

This is an interesting one actually. It's likely a misconception born from a misunderstanding of what happens. As I recall, women's bodies have the ability to control their vagina's shape and fit unconsciously, usually to the person that they find the most pleasurable/desirable. As a result, if a woman were to have sex with a man that isn't said person, it results in an uncomfortable or odd feeling comparatively. This is then misconstrued as a vagina being "loose" when in reality, you aren't want she wants and her body is telling her that. Then yadda yadda, bunch of stupid shit men say and all that.

There was supposedly some study about this but I don't have the info on it, just heard about it.

[JokerOfSpades]

That's new; I'd like to see this study.

[Devolution]

http://kinseyconfidential.org/vagina...ating-arousal/

In regard to the vagina, it is important to know that vaginas can change in size during sexual excitement thanks to a pretty amazing process called “vaginal tenting”. What happens is this: vaginas start out at about 3-4 inches in length (during an unaroused state). During sexual excitement, muscular tension pulls the uterus upward, which has the effect of making the vagina both longer and wider. Now, instead of being 3-4 inches in length, a vagina may reach approximately 5-6 inches in length – big enough to more comfortably accommodate penetration with a man’s penis, a sex toy or a partner’s fingers. When a woman’s body returns to its resting (unaroused) state, so does her vaginal size. The vagina does not stay “tented.” Even so, sometimes a woman’s vagina may feel tighter or looser during vaginal penetration, just as a man’s penis might feel bigger or smaller to his partner. Often this change in perception is due to a difference in lubrication.

[JokerOfSpades]

http://kinseyconfidential.org/vagina...ating-arousal/

So the more aroused the woman is is the looser her vagina feels, or smaller the man's penis? Or is that backwards?

[Veezy]

http://kinseyconfidential.org/vagina...ating-arousal/

So, in conclusion Joker:

1. Vagina's don't get bigger, they adjust for arousal's sake.
2. If you're ever questioning if you're about to rape a girl by having sex with her, it's probably rape.
3. If a girls says no, just go ahead and back the fuck off. Who gives a shit if you read "her signals" wrong.
4. If a girl is drunk and you can't tell if she's "too drunk," just call her in the morning for breakfast.

I think that about covers it.

EDIT: Length, not width. Lubrication, or lack there of.
Just... I need an aspirin.

[JokerOfSpades]

So, in conclusion Joker: 1. Vagina's don't get bigger. 2. If you're ever questioning if you're about to rape a girl by having sex with her, it's probably rape. 3. If a girls says no, just go ahead and back the fuck off. Who gives a shit if you read "her signals" wrong. 4. If a girl is drunk and you can't tell if she's "too drunk," just call her in the morning for breakfast. I think that about covers it.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Where did 2 - 4 come from? Dude, we recite the laws of consent for fun here. One of my good friends is certified to stop such situations. There is literally no way I would ever rape someone. I'm not mentally capable of it. I'm not that pressed.

[KO Traveling Hobo]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Where did 2 - 4 come from? Dude, we recite the laws of consent for fun here. One of my good friends is certified to stop such situations. There is literally no way I would ever rape someone. I'm not mentally capable of it. I'm not that pressed.

Don't even bother replying, man. Dude was just being a douche.

[evil solrac v3.0]

I was just responding to the statement that it had no effect. It doesn't matter, like at all, and it's certainly not the problem - I was just saying...

what about 80 year old women who get raped by criminals? were they dressing provocatively?