[soultron]

You sold a beta key, dude. Get real. You didn't make it, it required 3 seconds of your time to CTRL+C and CTRL+V that into a text field and you had to hit send.

[shuri]

Did you get any of his real infos when he paid by paypal? Personal infos? Put them online. All of them. Buy a 10$ domain with a privacy protection option and spread it on his local town's facebook account.

[Digishine]

Basically selling a DOTA 2 invite, some guy bought it for $25, sent paypal money, sent the invite, all seemed well. Until a few days ago. The dildo fucker files a case saying that I didn't send him an item going on with some bullshit that "I didn't receive a CD with the game and I thought there would be a CD." He goes on with that bullshit despite me knowing full well he's bullshitting me to get his money back. I have screen shots of me friending him, him asking for the invitation, me sending the item, him receiving it, him saying thanks, him playing the game, and him having 18 hours clocked in. Despite this, eBay files in his favor and eBay gave him $25 dollars back.... to add insult to injury, the fucker messages me today and says, and I quote, "hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe great game ! but not CD lol got refund free game." I'm on the phone with eBay appeals now, and try to find someway for me to submit my evidence of this. I WILL NOT FUCKING LET THIS FUCKER FUCK ME OVER LIKE THIS. I know typically, eBay doesn't allow the transaction of virtual goods, and this was the first item I sold on eBay, and there were a number of other closed auctions of DOTA so I figured it was allowed. Ugh... fucking pissed off right now. UPDATE: Yeah... I'm fucked.

Oh boy OP
what did you do !!!

[Sajjaja]

Did you get any of his real infos when he paid by paypal? Personal infos? Put them online. All of them. Buy a 10$ domain with a privacy protection option and spread it on his local town's facebook account.

I have his address, and even his picture.

Oh boy OP what did you do !!!

eBay isn't doing shit for me because I didn't have tracking information which they are so anal about. It's "policy." I'll see if I can try to do anything with Paypal, I doubt it but it's worth a shot.

Sucks but it's $25 and you didn't really lose anything. Live and learn.

Mostly how it went down that is infuriating me. That message.... ughh.....

[Darkness]

Sucks but it's $25 and you didn't really lose anything. Live and learn.

[SmokeMaxX]

I understand why you're mad, but it's not like you lost money, considering the "product" you were offering. Move on, dude. It's not worth the stress. Oh, and don't ever deal with eBay or PayPal again.

Everytime someone files a chargeback against you, if (or WHEN) you lose, you are forced to pay a $20-30 chargeback dispute resolution fee.

[LordCanti]

I have his address, and even his picture. eBay isn't doing shit for me because I didn't have tracking information which they are so anal about. It's "policy." I'll see if I can try to do anything with Paypal, I doubt it but it's worth a shot.

A lesser man would probably order a shitload of pizzas to be delivered to his address or something having to do with craigslist and men of the night.

That's what a lesser man would do. Not you.

Next step is facebook account. Try to find if he's university, or if he works, clone the account of someone working there, add him and wait. Don't use a hot chick, clone a regular guy, or a semi homely girl that looks nice and friendly. Study his facebook habits and strike when he's at work or sleeping. Send a detailed account of his fraud attempt, manually, to his entire list. IF there's too many people, aim for for family members, especially older family members; best friends. Email the entire thing to his workplace too. It's not about getting 25$ back, its about humiliating him and embarrassing him in front of his family. How would they feel if their son is defrauding people over the internet?

O_O

[shuri]

I have his address, and even his picture.

Next step is facebook account. Try to find if he's university, or if he works, clone the account of someone working there, add him and wait. Don't use a hot chick, clone a regular guy, or a semi homely girl that looks nice and friendly. Study his facebook habits and strike when he's at work or sleeping.


Send a detailed account of his fraud attempt, manually, to his entire list. IF there's too many people, aim for for family members, especially older family members; best friends. Email the entire thing to his workplace too. Don't post anything on his wall, this will alert him.

Maybe its going to be easier than that and he has his entire friendlist is exposed to outsiders!

It's not about getting 25$ back, its about humiliating him and embarrassing him in front of his family and employer.

[Sajjaja]

A lesser man would probably order a shitload of pizzas to be delivered to his address or something having to do with craigslist and men of the night. That's what a lesser man would do. Not you.

Yes..... a lesser man....... It just so happens I have free US-Canada calling..... so..... I shall find.... a lesser... man.... who is not me.

Next step is facebook account. Try to find if he's university, or if he works, clone the account of someone working there, add him and wait. Don't use a hot chick, clone a regular guy, or a semi homely girl that looks nice and friendly. Study his facebook habits and strike when he's at work or sleeping. Send a detailed account of his fraud attempt, manually, to his entire list. IF there's too many people, aim for for family members, especially older family members; best friends. Email the entire thing to his workplace too. It's not about getting 25$ back, its about humiliating him and embarrassing him in front of his family. How would they feel if their son is defrauding people over the internet?

I'm dying xD

[LordCanti]

People have done worse for less money. Just watch what this kid did in order to get his two dollars back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdF_Vo4B6Ms

[K701]

Basically selling a DOTA 2 invite, some guy bought it for $25, sent paypal money, sent the invite, all seemed well. Until a few days ago. The dildo fucker files a case saying that I didn't send him an item going on with some bullshit that "I didn't receive a CD with the game and I thought there would be a CD." He goes on with that bullshit despite me knowing full well he's bullshitting me to get his money back. I have screen shots of me friending him, him asking for the invitation, me sending the item, him receiving it, him saying thanks, him playing the game, and him having 18 hours clocked in. Despite this, eBay files in his favor and eBay gave him $25 dollars back.... to add insult to injury, the fucker messages me today and says, and I quote, "hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe great game ! but not CD lol got refund free game." I'm on the phone with eBay appeals now, and try to find someway for me to submit my evidence of this. I WILL NOT FUCKING LET THIS FUCKER FUCK ME OVER LIKE THIS. I know typically, eBay doesn't allow the transaction of virtual goods, and this was the first item I sold on eBay, and there were a number of other closed auctions of DOTA so I figured it was allowed. Ugh... fucking pissed off right now. UPDATE: Yeah... I'm fucked.

gg on him lol. To the winner go the spoils.

[Tenck]

You got greedy, and lost in return. If you're not going to play the game, might as well give it to someone who will enjoy it.

Or next time trade something for it with gaffers. Pretty sure you could have gotten something if you posted in the Key begging thread.

[shagg_187]

Selling a free beta key to a game that will be free? Yeah, I'm glad you got scammed on. I hope Valve knows you sold the key and never invites you to any beta in the future.

[Sajjaja]

You got greedy, and lost in return. If you're not going to play the game, might as well give it to someone who will enjoy it. Or next time trade something for it with gaffers. Pretty sure you could have gotten something if you posted in the Key begging thread.

I am playing it, it was an extra invite lol. Yeah, I'm only gonna trade with gaffers from now on. Nothing but good experiences with them.

[MRORANGE]

Why didn't you just use Steam Trade to get a game instead?

I bet it was meeru

[Tenck]

I am playing it, it was an extra invite lol. Yeah, I'm only gonna trade with gaffers from now on. Nothing but good experiences with them.

WHY HAVEN'T YOU JOINED THE TF2 GANG THEN!!!

It's Yasae, Pepper, Forkball, Cloudius, Borsalino, and I who play almost daily I believe.

Edit: Investigate Sajjaja. I think he's Meeru at it again with selling keys!!

[truly101]

I've sold things on eBay, but they have zero seller protection now. I sold a few games recently that luckily haven't come back on me but I did notice all the bidders had extremely low feedback scores and a bunch of no pays.

[Zee-Row]

I love Craigslist so much , i can sell shit and get laid on there!

[Mr Swine]

Can't you simply call/send mail to Valve and say that your Dota inv has been stolen so they can close it down?

[Tenck]

Can't you simply call/send mail to Valve and say that your Dota inv has been stolen so they can close it down?

I'm sure it's not something they'll deal with. They made an agreement on a 3rd party site and if the buyer didn't comply, I don't see why Valve has to intervene.

[shagg_187]

Can't you simply call/send mail to Valve and say that your Dota inv has been stolen so they can close it down?

Has it been stolen? Really? Valve would rather close his account for selling the key.

Beta is a privilege and has no monetary value. If you don't appreciate the choice then you don't deserve it.

[rezuth]

Has it been stolen? Really? Valve would rather close his account for selling the key. Beta is a privilege and has no monetary value. If you don't appreciate the choice then you don't deserve it.

I disagree, clearly it has monetary value to have earlier access to a great game.

[charsace]

ebay is only for trading money for goods with someone you know can be trusted.

[CrankyJay]

Had the same thing happen with the new ipad. Sold a 32 giger to a guy with a verified address, used shipping confirmation, and made him sign it to receive it. Not ten minutes after he signed for it he did a chargeback on his credit card, paypal gave him the money back, ebay STILL took seller fees from me, and he now has a free ipad and my money. Called his local police station, "we don't deal with fraud and for all we know you could be lying! You said you're from xx right? maybe next time you won't sell something on the internet. Have a nice day." Welcome to the real world of shitty people.

This...angers me.

[Cr0wn0]

Buy a refundable plane ticket send him a picture of it with his address, then ask him if he wants to settle it face to face. I have done this and it works.

[rozay]

Craigslist. Meet in a public place. Accept only cash. Done. Back when the iPhone 3G was new, I got about $550 for mine within 30 minutes of putting it on Craigslist. No PayPal fees. No eBay fees. No shipping.

Is there any way to do this without the risk of recieving fake money from the buyer?

[Dreams-Visions]

Had the same thing happen with the new ipad. Sold a 32 giger to a guy with a verified address, used shipping confirmation, and made him sign it to receive it. Not ten minutes after he signed for it he did a chargeback on his credit card, paypal gave him the money back, ebay STILL took seller fees from me, and he now has a free ipad and my money. Called his local police station, "we don't deal with fraud and for all we know you could be lying! You said you're from xx right? maybe next time you won't sell something on the internet. Have a nice day." Welcome to the real world of shitty people.

I don't know if I could even tell this story to people without getting extremely angry.

[5amshift]

Buy a refundable plane ticket send him a picture of it with his address, then ask him if he wants to settle it face to face. I have done this and it works.

Oh man this is amazing. Definitely must have scared the shit out of him.

[blainethemono]

I was planning on selling a bunch of computer parts on ebay pretty soon, but now this thread has me worried. Don't know what else to do with them

[Valnen]

Hopefully that scumbag gets what's coming to him some day.

[Menelaus]

$25 is pretty much nothing to learn your lesson. STOP USING EBAY TO SELL THINGS.

[3pheMeraLmiX]

I love Craigslist so much , i can sell shit and get laid on there!

Have you sold shit AND gotten laid simultaneously?

[Burger]

Chill, it's not as if you are out $25.

[SamVimes]

Have you sold shit AND gotten laid simultaneously?

That's called prostitution.

[charsace]

Chill, it's not as if you are out $25.

That's not the point. They were trading and the guy conned him. It's the principle.

[Darryl]

yea, this is the reason i no longer do business on ebay. it's far too easy to manipulate, especially with digital codes. there's just no valid proof of delivery.

[zychi]

I don't know if I could even tell this story to people without getting extremely angry.

It's been a month, I'm not over it(I've been pulling a 4chan the last two weekends and sending pizzas to the house). nothing I can do.

Karma is a bitch. I looked the name up on facebook and whitepages, the person who signed and stole the ipad from me is a 35 year old black man who lives with his mother. His mother just got fired, according to facebook. He is one of those douchebags who poses shirt-less but is actually fat.

I sent him, his mother, and his older brother(who also lives with the mother) a message with a second fb account that I made, that I was filing theft and fraud charges just to make sure the rest of the family knows there's a theif in the house. In reality, I'm not spending more money to get the money back. I figured if any of them were any sort of decent human beings they would either return the ipad or the money. If not, karma's a bitch and I'm done with ebay and paypal.

[NathanMcMahon]

I do about $40,000 a year worth of sales on eBay. The place is a cesspool of inbred fuckwads. eBay itself is a cesspool of inbred fuckwads. The system is broken but you kind of learn to just accept some of the bullshit. Each sale is like a ticking time bomb of retard that you hope never explodes. It really is sort of masochistic now but I make good money on it so I'll take the occasional bad with the mostly good.

[bubnbob]

You sold virtual goods, you aren't even supposed to be allowed to do that, and you knew the possible repercussions that a scammer could do. You got served. Was it a bidder with 0 feedback? I always set any (not even virtual) auctions to disallow anybody with 0 or negative feedback. I take no risks. The risk is of course still there but any protection is better than none.

[glaurung]

A scammer gets scammed.

How ironic.

[K701]

A scammer gets scammed. How ironic.

That's poetic justice, not irony.

[tmarques]

A lesser man would probably order a shitload of pizzas to be delivered to his address or something having to do with craigslist and men of the night. That's what a lesser man would do. Not you. O_O

Inconveniencing people who have nothing to do with it and are just trying to make an honest living (well, the pizza people anyway) is a fantastic idea.

[Persona7]

Valve would probably shut his account down if they figure out he tried to sell the code on the internet.

[Raitosaito]

So I'm sitting on an hp folio 13 hunger games edition I won from Microsoft, and after this I don't want to sell it on eBay. Where can I get rid of it. I already put it on Craigslist 300$ under retail value and no bite.

[ManDudeChild]

I do about $40,000 a year worth of sales on eBay. The place is a cesspool of inbred fuckwads. eBay itself is a cesspool of inbred fuckwads. The system is broken but you kind of learn to just accept some of the bullshit. Each sale is like a ticking time bomb of retard that you hope never explodes. It really is sort of masochistic now but I make good money on it so I'll take the occasional bad with the mostly good.

If you don't mind me asking, what are you selling on ebay?

[bubnbob]

So I'm sitting on an hp folio 13 hunger games edition I won from Microsoft, and after this I don't want to sell it on eBay. Where can I get rid of it. I already put it on Craigslist 300$ under retail value and no bite.

Don't let it scare you off. Post it up and protect yourself by ensuring:

- PICTURES (Videos optional) (if they say item was not as described)
- Delivery Confirmation / Tracking (if they try to dispute it never arrived)
- Set your auction to prevent people with 0 or negative feedback, or specifically to [whatever your country is] (i only set it to USA, anyone interested will usually message you and ask)
- Be as descriptive as possible in your listing

You'll be fine bro. This dude got scammed because it was a virtual good, it's easily to rip people off doing this.

[tmarques]

It's been a month, I'm not over it(I've been pulling a 4chan the last two weekends and sending pizzas to the house). nothing I can do.

Do you honestly think it's okay to waste the time and money of the people who make and deliver those pizzas on your personal vendetta? I find it ironic that you think "karma is a bitch" but still see nothing wrong with what you are doing.

Karma is a bitch. I looked the name up on facebook and whitepages, the person who signed and stole the ipad from me is a 35 year old black man who lives with his mother.

And what does the colour of his skin have to with anything?

I'm still curious how you managed to lose that dispute if the guy signed for the package.

[NathanMcMahon]

If you don't mind me asking, what are you selling on ebay?

A lot of stuff. I do a lot of treasure hunting at thrift stores and flea markets and resell what I find.

[LordCanti]

Inconveniencing people who have nothing to do with it and are just trying to make an honest living (well, the pizza people anyway) is a fantastic idea.

It was also a joke. I'm pretty sure everyone involved realized that.

Except the guy that claims to have actually sent pizzas to someones house.

[Hasardeur]

well, you're probably aware of it now, but everyone on ebay is trying to scam you

just ... just stay from that terrible site