[rozay]

Don't let it scare you off. Post it up and protect yourself by ensuring: - PICTURES (Videos optional) (if they say item was not as described) - Delivery Confirmation / Tracking (if they try to dispute it never arrived) - Set your auction to prevent people with 0 or negative feedback, or specifically to [whatever your country is] (i only set it to USA, anyone interested will usually message you and ask) - Be as descriptive as possible in your listing You'll be fine bro. This dude got scammed because it was a virtual good, it's easily to rip people off doing this.

it's unfortunately still very easy to scam people with that much effort. I think you're better off doing a craigslist meetup at a starbucks or something.

[Zee-Row]

Have you sold shit AND gotten laid simultaneously?

I'm working on that!

[zychi]

Do you honestly think it's okay to waste the time and money of the people who make and deliver those pizzas on your personal vendetta? I find it ironic that you think "karma is a bitch" but still see nothing wrong with what you are doing. And what does the colour of his skin have to with anything? I'm still curious how you managed to lose that dispute if the guy signed for the package.

he is a black man, it's a fact. if he was a latino or a white guy or something else I would have stated it. you turned it into a racist comment.

i lost because he did a chargeback on his credit card, which paypal has no power over. paypal lost out on money, and wanted my money to compensate for the fraud. it's a fantastic system for scammers.

i love that you think that wasting time on ordering a few extra pizzas is terrible, but have no opinion on the actual topic on hand.

[Weenerz]

I know what you did wrong. You used ebay.

[ReBurn]

I remember when you had to get money orders to buy stuff off of eBay because there was no Paypal. Maybe you should only accept money orders.

[Enco]

he is a black man, it's a fact. if he was a latino or a white guy or something else I would have stated it. you turned it into a racist comment. i lost because he did a chargeback on his credit card, which paypal has no power over. paypal lost out on money, and wanted my money to compensate for the fraud. it's a fantastic system for scammers. i love that you think that wasting time on ordering a few extra pizzas is terrible, but have no opinion on the actual topic on hand.

I agree with you.

Stating that someone is black is not racist. It's kinda silly to say it is.

If someone pulled that crap with me I'd do everything you did haha Gotta get some sweet revenge.

[Fusebox]

he is a black man, it's a fact. if he was a latino or a white guy or something else I would have stated it. you turned it into a racist comment.

Just my gut-instinct, but I don't think you would have stated he was white.

[Kalnos]

1. Always attach tracking number/delivery confirmation to item when you mark it as shipped.
2. Make the buyer payer immediately if they use 'buy it now'.

Those are the lessons I have learned.

[MRORANGE]

Buy a refundable plane ticket send him a picture of it with his address, then ask him if he wants to settle it face to face. I have done this and it works.

lol, I want to hear the story behinds this.

[Skilotonn]

I've never sold anything on eBay, or sold anything I've bought period, but I had no idea eBay was so pro-buyer - very unfortunate.

[dschalter]

the reason they side with buyers most of the time is that sellers were responsible for the vast majority of fraud/scams. maybe it's a bit too far in the other direction, but it was way too easy for sellers to be crooks in the past.

[bill0527]

Only took one time for me to get fucked selling on eBay before I quit forever.

Luckily it was only a $60 game.

Now it's either Craigslist, amazon, or trade that shit in to GameStop.

[Casp0r]

I use to think Ebay was a cess pool, however then I was shown how if you're a girl and you like clothes/shoes it's probably one of the best places in the world.

I'm talking about 99 cent shirts, shorts etc. cheap a shit shoes, high street names for 1/10th the price. Seriously if your girl ever remarks about something in a clothes store, but doesn't buy it due to price, later on Ebay it and 75% of the time you can find it for a ridiculously lower price!

Same goes for selling. People have a thing for not trusting the millions of Chinese Sellers on there. So you buy a cheap payout of shoes from China for 5 quid, pt it back up for 15 and usually it goes.

[LordCanti]

I use to think Ebay was a cess pool, however then I was shown how if you're a girl and you like clothes/shoes it's probably one of the best places in the world. I'm talking about 99 cent shirts, shorts etc. cheap a shit shoes, high street names for 1/10th the price. Seriously if your girl ever remarks about something in a clothes store, but doesn't buy it due to price, later on Ebay it and 75% of the time you can find it for a ridiculously lower price! Same goes for selling. People have a thing for not trusting the millions of Chinese Sellers on there. So you buy a cheap payout of shoes from China for 5 quid, pt it back up for 15 and usually it goes.

Not to be a negative nancy or anything, but aren't those counterfeit items most of the time?

[LiK]

That sucks and is one reason I don't sell any virtual goods on eBay. Too easy to get disputed.

[Jme]

Pretty much. eBay and PayPal will always side with the buyer.

Not ALWAYS. I had an experience selling a broke ps3 controller. There were multiple photos showing the damage from multiple angles. The buyer then complained I only sent 1 controller and filed for refund. I explained my case, showed the description never using plurals etc, and they (thankfully) sided with me on that one.
I know it's rare, but it can happen.

[NathanMcMahon]

Just as an example of the sorts of turd's on eBay, I just got this message, I shit you not 2 seconds ago, from a buyer.

Hi, received this item today. Very cool design.. You left the Collectible price tag sticker of $25.00 on the box. Not too cool.

What am I supposed to do with that? How do I respond? Should I apologize? Are they looking for some sort of partial refund? I have no fucking idea what or why they would send that fucking message. I now am awaiting a negative feedback because apparently they are unhappy about a price sticker. WHAT THE FUCK!!

[MrDenny]

That sucks, next time you can post in your ad that buyers must have a certain amount of positive feedback.
That guy is a scum, if you want revenge you can always take his paypal e-mail and ruin it by entering it in those "survey sites" and his e-mail will be full of spam.

Reminds me of this one case on judge judy.
Lady sends the buyer pictures of a cellphone and think she can get away with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzGOJJmrPNo

[LiK]

Just as an example of the sorts of turd's on eBay, I just got this message, I shit you not 2 seconds ago, from a buyer. What am I supposed to do with that? How do I respond? Should I apologize? Are they looking for some sort of partial refund? I have no fucking idea what or why they would send that fucking message. I now am awaiting a negative feedback because apparently they are unhappy about a price sticker. WHAT THE FUCK!!

I never got those messages but I would ignore them. The deal is done.

[zychi]

Just my gut-instinct, but I don't think you would have stated he was white.

I would have because I was describing what I found out about the person on facebook.

[NathanMcMahon]

I never got those messages but I would ignore them. The deal is done.

I get shit like that all the time (not that exact thing but just really fucking dumb messages). I know the deal is done, but I feel like if I ignore their pathetic mewling, that they'll just leave negative feedback out of spite, or open a case just to fuck with me. In this past month alone I've had three cases opened where I told them to send it back for a refund because they said they were unhappy or something was broken, and then they never send it back. It's fucking maddening.

[3pheMeraLmiX]

I've bought a few things on Ebay without any issues, had three really excellent sellers take care of issues I had with a broken product; however, I just bought something on Ebay, paid for the item within minutes of winning and I haven't had a response from the seller yet. Now, granted, he couldn't have shipped as he's going to use USPS and I won/paid for the auction 30 minutes before their offices closed, so I don't expect it to be shipped out yet (especially now that it's the weekend (plus, is USPS open on Saturdays anymore?)), but having no response from him thus far has me a little worried, as other people I've bought from have responded within the day.

It was weird that no one else but me bid on the item. Have no idea why as he had a similar buy/sell history as mine with 100% feedback rating.

[BGBW]

What am I supposed to do with that? How do I respond? Should I apologize? Are they looking for some sort of partial refund? I have no fucking idea what or why they would send that fucking message. I now am awaiting a negative feedback because apparently they are unhappy about a price sticker. WHAT THE FUCK!!

Tell them that the sticker if a free bonus gift from you.

[NathanMcMahon]

Tell them that the sticker if a free bonus gift from you.

I'd love to be able to be snarky, but the feedback is killer if it is negative. The metrics that eBay uses to evaluate you are insane and the slightest drop in customer satisfaction can wreck havoc on your account. It's goddamn nuts. I really wish Google would give them a challenge by introducing a viable option for auctions.

[LiK]

I get shit like that all the time (not that exact thing but just really fucking dumb messages). I know the deal is done, but I feel like if I ignore their pathetic mewling, that they'll just leave negative feedback out of spite, or open a case just to fuck with me. In this past month alone I've had three cases opened where I told them to send it back for a refund because they said they were unhappy or something was broken, and then they never send it back. It's fucking maddening.

Yikes, I see.

[BronsonLee]

I get shit like that all the time (not that exact thing but just really fucking dumb messages). I know the deal is done, but I feel like if I ignore their pathetic mewling, that they'll just leave negative feedback out of spite, or open a case just to fuck with me. In this past month alone I've had three cases opened where I told them to send it back for a refund because they said they were unhappy or something was broken, and then they never send it back. It's fucking maddening.

Just do the same. They're just grandstanding.

[zerokoolpsx]

I sold a few things on Ebay a few years ago. Not planning to sell anything ever on that site now. Should have traded that dota invite instead of selling it OP.

[gogogow]

I'd love to be able to be snarky, but the feedback is killer if it is negative. The metrics that eBay uses to evaluate you are insane and the slightest drop in customer satisfaction can wreck havoc on your account. It's goddamn nuts. I really wish Google would give them a challenge by introducing a viable option for auctions.

Can you explain what will actually happen?

[666]

I want you to post his details for my entertainment but also know its the dick move and you SHOULDN'T do that at all.

Breathe deep, move on, learn a little lesson.

[NathanMcMahon]

Can you explain what will actually happen?

Account suspension, drop in seller benefits, all listings that are currently happening (for myself I have a little over 100) are removed so all the time and effort spent listing them are voided. All the fees that were incurred listing them are also kept by eBay. It's overall a logistical nightmare and headache.

[Dog Problems]

I'd love to be able to be snarky, but the feedback is killer if it is negative. The metrics that eBay uses to evaluate you are insane and the slightest drop in customer satisfaction can wreck havoc on your account. It's goddamn nuts. I really wish Google would give them a challenge by introducing a viable option for auctions.

I can't believe someone hasn't come along with a service to compete with eBay by now.

[Spieler Eins]

Never had any issues with eBay yet. Just lately I've bought a game, payed immediately and had it 3 days later, plus positive feedback. No PMing or anything needed.

Once I've screwed up a description for some Magic the Gathering card (because I apparently know too little about that game) and even then, the buyer just got a little angry when I was asking about the feedback and just left me alone afterwards.
Many buyers also come over paying cash.

Only annoying thing in my country is that you can't sell any 18+ games. Also, I didn't use an own account until recently and hence still need 40 feedbacks before I can disable fucking PayPal as a payment option for selling. Fortunately only one individual used that until now.

[Escape Goat]

What was his trustworthiness score or whatever eBay uses?

[blackwatchplad]

That guy makes me want to punch him.

But at least it's only $25.
I've had paypal come through for me with ebay disputes.. also my bank as well.

I despise ebay though, I've been scammed for over $300 when I was ordering a console for a friend. It took months to sort it out... After that I swore I would never buy anything off of ebay again.

[Sajjaja]

The guy had completely positive feedback, and heck, he gave me the paypal money at the time so I immediately +ed him as well. And then this fucking shit happened.

Fuck eBay. Neogaf should pool money together and make a viable competitor by auction shit from the Buy/Sell/Trade thread and the Free to a good home thread.

Also... get this... I had the fucker on my Steam friends list still and he messages me and says "Thanks for the refund."

THAT FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT COCK SUCKING MOTHER DONKEY LOVING DILDO FUCKER.

[NathanMcMahon]

The guy had completely positive feedback, and heck, he gave me the paypal money at the time so I immediately +ed him as well. And then this fucking shit happened. Fuck eBay. Neogaf should pool money together and make a viable competitor by auction shit from the Buy/Sell/Trade thread and the Free to a good home thread. Also... get this... I had the fucker on my Steam friends list still and he messages me and says "Thanks for the refund." THAT FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT COCK SUCKING MOTHER DONKEY LOVING DILDO FUCKER.

ouch dude. I will say that after all of the bullshit I've put up with on eBay, I no longer leave any feedback. It's a small consolation but still feels good knowing that you can still not leave anything for anybody. If you ever do deal with eBay again, never leave feedback. At least you aren't out any money like some people who get fucked over.

[SmokeMaxX]

1) There's like no way to leave negative feedback on eBay if you're a seller. I've even messaged eBay pleading my case saying I DIDN'T CARE if I got my money back as long as the fucker got banned. He had SIX feedbacks saying that he was a scammer and filed chargebacks after buying items. Unfortunately they were all POSITIVE feedback because there's no other way for sellers to warn other sellers about scammers. So a guy who scammed me had like 50+ positives (100%).

2) A popular way to scam people is by receiving the item, complaining that it's a box of rocks, and then shipping a box of rocks back to the seller. What is Paypal going to do about that? They have no way of proving what the seller sent to the buyer.

3) Never leave feedback until after the other person leaves feedback. That way you can use their feedback against them if they file a dispute.

[pje122]

The guy had completely positive feedback, and heck, he gave me the paypal money at the time so I immediately +ed him as well. And then this fucking shit happened. Fuck eBay. Neogaf should pool money together and make a viable competitor by auction shit from the Buy/Sell/Trade thread and the Free to a good home thread. Also... get this... I had the fucker on my Steam friends list still and he messages me and says "Thanks for the refund." THAT FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT COCK SUCKING MOTHER DONKEY LOVING DILDO FUCKER.

LOL this guy is awesome.

[evil solrac v3.0]

Just as an example of the sorts of turd's on eBay, I just got this message, I shit you not 2 seconds ago, from a buyer. What am I supposed to do with that? How do I respond? Should I apologize? Are they looking for some sort of partial refund? I have no fucking idea what or why they would send that fucking message. I now am awaiting a negative feedback because apparently they are unhappy about a price sticker. WHAT THE FUCK!!

how much did it sell for?

[demigod]

Ebay sucks for sellers now, you can't even give negatives to the buyer when they scam you. Then again, I've ran into a bad seller when my cousin bought a bluetooth that was broken and the seller refused to exchange it. Ran into an asshole buyer that wanted me to ship the damn item to him just right after he won the bid. Of course I couldn't say anything back to him fearing he might do a chargeback. Wait, Paypal charges you a $25 fee when the buyer does a chargeback? Never knew that, that's fucked up even if you have evidence that the stuff was delivered and signed.

I've sold 2 things on Craigslist, MUCH better than the shit from Ebay. The people were nice and I didn't have to run into assholes like on Ebay.

[Kalnos]

3) Never leave feedback until after the other person leaves feedback. That way you can use their feedback against them if they file a dispute.

While this is a good rule... "dont leave feedback until the buyer does"....

The seller can't leave negative feedback for the buyer, only positive or none at all.

[SmokeMaxX]

While this is a good rule... "dont leave feedback until the buyer does".... The seller can't leave negative feedback for the buyer, only positive or none at all.

At the very least, you can leave a positive feedback warning other sellers that the person is a a scammer. That's what I did.

[Despera]

Also... get this... I had the fucker on my Steam friends list still and he messages me and says "Thanks for the refund." THAT FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT COCK SUCKING MOTHER DONKEY LOVING DILDO FUCKER.

pffftt ahahahaha what an asshole.

The only time I ever used ebay for anything was to buy the Asian version of Demon's Souls back when there was no sign of a stateside release.

[Woody Invincible]

I sell on ebay all the time with cheap games and movies. Occasionally, I get the buyer who says the dollar game didn't work. I tell him to ship it back and I'll give a refund. Usually they don't want to pay the return shipping and file a dispute and ebay and paypal tell them to go fuck themselves. I haven't had to refund anyone just yet.

[Zizbuka]

Sorry OP, but good. Trying to profit on something that you should've given away, and using ebay. 2 strikes against you.

[NathanMcMahon]

how much did it sell for?

Around $80. The sticker was clearly visible in the listing as well. It was a BIN.

[BankaiZaraki]

The Paypal transaction gave you his physical address, right? Burn his house down and then leave a note that says "hehehehehe." I'm clearly joking.

This sounds like an awesome idea! Do it OP.

[Rocket Scientist]

Did the OP contact the game developers? I'm sure they would help in this instance if Ebay/Pay Pall don't. Good luck man.

[Scirrocco]

Did the OP contact the game developers? I'm sure they would help in this instance if Ebay/Pay Pall don't. Good luck man.

As said earlier, selling the Pre-order code is against TOS, and might well get his game banned.

Of course, if the OP is really that pissed off, it might be worth it just to screw over the guy who bought it.

[Arcteryx]

I remember when you had to get money orders to buy stuff off of eBay because there was no Paypal. Maybe you should only accept money orders.

I actually started doing that after getting dicked over twice on eBay. Worked fine and I never had issues again, but I haven't been on eBay in a LONG ass time. Site sucks.

Just as an example of the sorts of turd's on eBay, I just got this message, I shit you not 2 seconds ago, from a buyer. What am I supposed to do with that? How do I respond? Should I apologize? Are they looking for some sort of partial refund? I have no fucking idea what or why they would send that fucking message. I now am awaiting a negative feedback because apparently they are unhappy about a price sticker. WHAT THE FUCK!!

hahahaha oh man, back when I was still on eBay, I sold some extra Suunto watches (the kind with a heart-rate monitor and all that jazz) that I'd won after a bike race. Anyways, 3 of the 4 go out fine, but suddenly I get this email from the 4th buyer: "Yea, received the watch today, looks great, but I can't get the strap to fit around my waist, so I need to return this".................that guy must have weighed 400+ lbs, because that strap is like 6ft long.