[Krev]

Out with the old, I guess.

[Zeppelin]

Do people even want Avatar 2? And 3 and 4? Seems to me to be such a love/hate franchise.

[strafer]

Like the studio cares what the people want, it's all about ze money.

[symphonask]

I really hope he expands the universe in Avatar 2. This is a future where far flung space travel is a reality, right? I'd love to see different planets being explored that are completey different and alien to Pandora - hell, throw in some space combat for good measure.

If the sequel is just, 'hey, humans return with bigger guns and here's some cool underwater shots of Pandora,' then count me out.

[Fallout-NL]

Which just means that the stakes were even more against him. It's much harder to make a sequel to a classic movie and have people love it than the alternative.

It's hard to argue against you when you keep saying the same thing. Yes, he's got a knack for sequels and it's even more difficult when you're up against the incredible original films (though we've seen that only twice, of which the last one over two decades ago). But even though that required some inspired thinking, it does help that they were very good to begin with.

Avatar - and you know, I say this admitting that it is a technical marvel and soundly made - on the other hand, requires something more than inspired thinking. With Alien and Terminator, he didn't need to admit the originals lacked an edge. No, they were great and he needed to make them better. This time though... he must think Avatar is good right? Or would he have removed all the mirrors in his house, cause he can't look at himself anymore?

I mean, fuck. That tribal-chanting-healing-healtheworld-sittingaroundthecampfire shit near the end in Avatar - I look at Aliens, I look at Terminator and then I look at that, and it just hurts.

[cloud_sleep]

I really hope he expands the universe in Avatar 2. This is a future where far flung space travel is a reality, right? I'd love to see different planets being explored that are completey different and alien to Pandora - hell, throw in some space combat for good measure.

Cameron has talked about utilizing other moons around the same gas giant that Pandora orbits for the sequels. If the sequels go down the route of featuring a common progenitor for humans and the Navi then that might allow for some space combat if they show up. Or perhaps warring earth factions? I certainly hope there is plenty of human tech featured in the sequels. Not sure if I'm down for 3 hours of just Jake, Neytiri and family exploring Pandora.

[Nerfgun]

Do people even want Avatar 2? And 3 and 4? Seems to me to be such a love/hate franchise.

It's got a good metacritic rating, and it's the it's successful movie of all time. Despite what you read on GAF, I'd say it's mostly love.

He's got his Star Wars now so im not surprised by his statement.

[F#A#Oo]

I liked Avatar not for story but for visuals (3D) and the theme (jungle/floating island/avatars)

I definitely won't be impressed by the 3D in the subsequent films...unless he does an amazing job with some amazing scenes of depth...and I think by Avatar 2 I'll be bored of the above themes...

[symphonask]

Cameron has talked about utilizing other moons around the same gas giant that Pandora orbits for the sequels. If the sequels go down the route of featuring a common progenitor for humans and the Navi then that might allow for some space combat if they show up. Or perhaps warring earth factions? I certainly hope there is plenty of human tech featured in the sequels. Not sure if I'm down for 3 hours of just Jake, Neytiri and family exploring Pandora.

Those are some cool ideas.

Honestly, I'm already tired of Pandora. Most of the sequel should be in a completely different setting, imo.

[JB1981]

It's got a good metacritic rating, and it's the it's successful movie of all time. Despite what you read on GAF, I'd say it's mostly love. He's got his Star Wars now so im not surprised by his statement.

And you would think GAF would love it since it's like a liberal scifi lovers wet dream

[Nerfgun]

And you would think GAF would love it since it's like a liberal scifi lovers wet dream

I'd call it a summer popcorn movie, but ok.

[jett]

DAT AVATAR

I wish the sequels weren't so far away.

[Cheebo]

And you would think GAF would love it since it's like a liberal scifi lovers wet dream

GAFs sci-fi taste tends to be more of the 2001, Blade Runner, Inception, etc variety and less big loud Avatar/Transformers/Battleship sci-fi as far as I can tell.

[Grisby]

NNnoooooo, avatar wasn't that great. :(

That's disheartening to hear he only wants to work on Avatar sequels.

[-COOLIO-]

Do people even want Avatar 2? And 3 and 4? Seems to me to be such a love/hate franchise.

~700 mil domestic man, people love it. only gaf is 50/50

[Jangocube]

Seeing Avatar the first time in 3D was fucking awesome. The movie gets way too much hate.

Looking forward to whatever Cameron makes!

[Jason Raize '75 - '04]

Avatar II: The Magical Rescue Avatar III: Journey Back to Earth

No one would be surprised

[The Bookerman]

Not interested in anything Cameron does Avatar related. What's so awesome about that world is beyond me.


If he does something like True Lies 2, gimme a call.

[Killing_Joke]

Fuck you for starting the 3D craze. =(

[Kayhan]

The story in Avatar was so insultingly stupid that its like James Cameron was daring people to like the movie.

"Go on idiots, love my movie!"

[shuri]

people liked avatar for the 3d movie gimmick, the actual movie was wtf-lame

[dude]

I think within the “Avatar” landscape I can say everything I need to say that I think needs to be said

Really?
I mean, Really?


...


Really?

[Secret_Riddle]

He needs to prove he can actually make a sequel to Avatar that people like before he completely writes off his career in dedication to the Hometree.

[coldvein]

EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID EVER!

[Unicorn]

How can he make a sequel to Avatar when there was no sequel to Pocahontas.

Well, how could the Native Americans rebuild their land when it was no longer theirs? That's one difference...

[maquiladora]

Avatar 4? C'mon son.

[Hot Coldman]

Well, this is disappointing.

[Busty]

I readily admit that I liked Avatar but I didn't love it and frankly I can't see why or how Cameron intends to get another 2 or 3 films out of that 'universe'.

Avatar' story line was tied up and unless he intends to radically reinvent or expand the scope of the story (space opera away from Pandora) I don't see what's he going to do.

Seems Battle Angel is officially dead then?

Just one of the many projects that Cameron talks about but will never actually get round to making.

Just like the remake of Forbidden Planet which he's been talking about for something like 20+ years.....

[TheKaeptain]

Man Avengers was so much fucking better than Avatar

I was talking about Battleship but hey let's call a spade a spade.

[Kitschkraft]

Not interested. Disappointed that he's taking this route. Very talented man, I just don't think that the Avatar universe really has "it" enough to warrant him spending all his time there.

[Rated-Rsuperstar]

I guess this means will never get a decent version of True Lies or The Abyss on blu ray.

[AceBandage]

Wait...
There was a Fern Gully 2?

AND A POCAHONTAS 3?!

The hell is this?

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

Said it last night, I can safely write JC off now. Avatar sucked. Cameron preachiness sucks. Game over man, game over.

[Straightballin]

Said it last night, I can safely write JC off now. Avatar sucked. Cameron preachiness sucks. Game over man, game over.

James Cameron hasn't made anything good since True Lies, I have written him off long ago.

[Pakkidis]

I wish he would get into the terminator business :(

Avatar was such an average movie, even the 3d didn't impress me as much as I thought it would.

[Hot Coldman]

Wait... There was a Fern Gully 2? AND A POCAHONTAS 3?! The hell is this?

Name a Disney movie. Boom, it had a direct-to-video sequel.

[Cubsfan23]

Do people even want Avatar 2? And 3 and 4? Seems to me to be such a love/hate franchise.

Avatar 2 is gonna shatter any and all records that are in place when it comes out.

[Crewnh]

Name a Disney movie. Boom, it had a direct-to-video sequel.

Except Black Cauldron. :(

[Beerman462]

So much salt in this thread. Did all the haters in this thread just skip watching Avatar and ride the lol Dances with Wolves train into the ground. Did you watch a version some dude recorded in the theater with his phone? I watched it in the theater in Imax 3D and I thought it was amazing. The visuals alone were worth the price of admission to me. Also, how can you hate a movie with Mechs?

I will laugh my ass off if Cameron is just trolling everybody.

[Erigu]

Seems Battle Angel is officially dead then?

Good.

[StudioTan]

It's got a good metacritic rating, and it's the it's successful movie of all time. Despite what you read on GAF, I'd say it's mostly love. He's got his Star Wars now so im not surprised by his statement.

Pfft, Star Wars? The movie about the kids who doesn't know he's special and meets a wizard to rescue a princess from a guy dressed all in black? How much cliche more can you get? Plus there was no where else to take that film. They blow up the mega weapon space station and everyone lives happily ever after. No way the movie that followed that huge success could actually be better than the original.

[Demy]

Posts #3 - 7, I <3 you guys.

I hope the deep ocean movie is as groundbreaking as I hope it's gonna be. I wanna see deep sea alien-like fishies.

[Sub_Level]

Terminator
Aliens
The Abyss
Terminator 2
True Lies
Titanic

He was a good director and probably a good man too. R.I.P. James Cameron, 1956 - 1997.





:(

[Escape Goat]

I figured Cameron is one of those directors who directs because he enjoys telling stories. I don't understand why he has shackled himself to producing 3 more Avatars. Its not as if he needs the money.

[MrHicks]

replace avatar with star wars

george lucas 2.0 confirmed

[broadwayrock]

From the same interview...

There are filmmakers that come along that are quite iconoclastic. And that I’m in awe of, frankly. Zack Snyder’s “300.” I think that was a really revolutionary film, because it was a completely deconstructive form of filmmaking in a way that nobody had done before

It seems from that interview that he's more interested in projects that help him flog his expensive 3d equipment than filmmaking.

[Tookay]

~700 mil domestic man, people love it. only gaf is 50/50

No, the box office only proves that people were interested and saw it. Doesn't say anything about whether they liked it, continue to like it, or want to see another.

This isn't Cameron's SW. I don't see that kind of cultural conversation about it.

The sequels will make money, but not because people loved the original. It's just another blockbuster to see.

Pfft, Star Wars? The movie about the kids who doesn't know he's special and meets a wizard to rescue a princess from a guy dressed all in black? How much cliche more can you get? Plus there was no where else to take that film. They blow up the mega weapon space station and everyone lives happily ever after. No way the movie that followed that huge success could actually be better than the original.

Believe it or not, at the time the way SW told its story was pretty unique and revolutionary. You seem to lack context of cinematic history in your overblown defense of a soulless movie.

And don't act like there wasn't room for sequels in SW. Yes, the Death Star blew up, but Luke still had to become a proper Jedi, the Empire still needed to fall, and the mystery about Luke's father wasn't completely resolved. Avatar in comparison feels like a dead end.

[Tobor]

So much salt in this thread. Did all the haters in this thread just skip watching Avatar and ride the lol Dances with Wolves train into the ground. Did you watch a version some dude recorded in the theater with his phone? I watched it in the theater in Imax 3D and I thought it was amazing. The visuals alone were worth the price of admission to me. Also, how can you hate a movie with Mechs? I will laugh my ass off if Cameron is just trolling everybody.

I saw it in the theater in 3D. It was a beautifully made boring film. The script sucked.

[Lothars]

Said it last night, I can safely write JC off now. Avatar sucked. Cameron preachiness sucks. Game over man, game over.

I don't think Avatar sucked but it's just not very good. I don't think the sequels will be very good either.

[Schweini]

Really, James?

I couldn't care less about Avatar. I guess that's me done with his movies.