[Andrex]

Self-driving cars combined with Google Glasses... the boring commute will never be the same.

But will the car run crisys? What OS is under it? Knowing google it will be some flavour of linux no? Can I install apache on it and share things with the passengers around me in a small short network? That would be cool.

Would open the doors to hackers, which would be very very bad.

[Solstice]

Self-driving cars combined with Google Glasses... the boring commute will never be the same. Would open the doors to hackers, which would be very very bad.

Agreed. A proprietary, closed source OS would be the best way to go on this.

[Zeppu]

Lazy Jones' scepticism will only make the assimilation sweeter.

[Andrex]

Agreed. A proprietary, closed source OS would be the best way to go on this.

Linux would still be the way to go, but I would greatly prefer if it had no networking capabilities except for maybe short-range Bluetooth. Even then, I'm not sure.

Why do something with your car's OS instead of your phone or Google Glasses? You wouldn't.

[DoubleTap]

[Zeppu]

As Clarkson has already pointed out in the past, the problem with self driving cars is that they will eventually break down, and some 'Kevin' will think he can fix it himself, with tragic consequences.

[snacknuts]

All-time DD included with vehicle purchase? Sign me up.

[Tacitus_]

As Clarkson has already pointed out in the past, the problem with self driving cars is that they will eventually break down, and some 'Kevin' will think he can fix it himself, with tragic consequences.

And how does that differ from a human driver?

[Zeppu]

And how does that differ from a human driver?

Cause if while repairing it he disconnects and shorts out some sensor and doesn't realize it, it may cause crashes which wouldn't occur with a human driver. Trained professionals would have some sort of unit tests in place to ensure they've done their job properly.

I trust Google's self driving car taking me places. I would trust Google's self driving car driving alongside me on the road. I'd be a bit paranoid with a Google's self driving car, tampered by some guy driving alongside me though.

[astroturfing]

It's good that they're being very safe about this car. They keep testing the fuck out of it, and it gets better and better. Quick response time too - I saw in one video a lady tested it's braking ability by running out in front of it in traffic. I think one of the strengths this car has is the ability to network - the creator mentions how ideally there will either be smart roads, or these cards will network together - and the result will be no traffic.

yeah, this.

i can't understand people who are against this development. automated and networked cars would bring down traffic accidents to near zero in many places. how the fuck is that not worth it? do some people think their own "right to drive" the car themselves is that much more important than an immense improvement in public safety?

i might be a bit too optimistic about this, but i can't help it. i've seen the consequences of humans driving, in much too graphic detail..

[Solstice]

Cause if while repairing it he disconnects and shorts out some sensor and doesn't realize it, it may cause crashes which wouldn't occur with a human driver. Trained professionals would have some sort of unit tests in place to ensure they've done their job properly.

At that point, wouldn't safeties need to be put in place to make sure that all sensors are operational and whatnot?

[Kinitari]

Cause if while repairing it he disconnects and shorts out some sensor and doesn't realize it, it may cause crashes which wouldn't occur with a human driver. Trained professionals would have some sort of unit tests in place to ensure they've done their job properly.

That would be the same as some dude trying to fix his broken car and accidentally fucking with his brake line. The same issues with regular driving would occur with this sort of driving - except maybe a smart enough computer would run a self-diagnosis at every startup and be like "bro, did you fuck with my sensors? Sorry, I ain't driving you anywhere".

[Tobor]

Only a matter of time before one of these gets in an accident. I'll be curious to see the public's reaction.

[Htown]

I live in Houston, so yes, I would trust computers more than the drivers here.

FUCKING WOOOOORD

Holy shit these fucking Houston drivers. THEY KEEP GETTING WORSE.

[Solstice]

yeah, this. i can't understand people who are against this development. automated and networked cars would bring down traffic accidents to near zero in many places. how the fuck is that not worth it? do some people think their own "right to drive" the car themselves is that much more important than an immense improvement in public safety? i might be a bit too optimistic about this, but i can't help it. seen the consequences of humans driving way too often..

But how else will people prove they're assholes if they aren't allowed to drive 90 miles an hour and dart from lane to lane?

[toxicgonzo]

Only a matter of time before one of these gets in an accident. I'll be curious to see the public's reaction.

Sued out of existence.

[Kinitari]

Only a matter of time before one of these gets in an accident. I'll be curious to see the public's reaction.

Outrage, vitriol, hermitism - the works. It could be like, 1 accident ALL YEAR because of an automated car, and people would still flip their shit.

[Htown]

Cause if while repairing it he disconnects and shorts out some sensor and doesn't realize it, it may cause crashes which wouldn't occur with a human driver. Trained professionals would have some sort of unit tests in place to ensure they've done their job properly. I trust Google's self driving car taking me places. I would trust Google's self driving car driving alongside me on the road. I'd be a bit paranoid with a Google's self driving car, tampered by some guy driving alongside me though.

Pretty sure these things would have self-diagnostics running on a regular basis, dude.

EDIT: Also, if I was google, I'd have cameras all over the car. You know somebody's going to try that good old "swerve in front, brake hard" nonsense and then try to sue google.

[astroturfing]

Only a matter of time before one of these gets in an accident. I'll be curious to see the public's reaction.

i think it's been proven already that they barely get in any accidents at all. something like 140,000 miles driven without a single accident, other than some other car slightly bumping into Google's car waiting at traffic lights.

[Zeppu]

At that point, wouldn't safeties need to be put in place to make sure that all sensors are operational and whatnot?

That would be the same as some dude trying to fix his broken car and accidentally fucking with his brake line. The same issues with regular driving would occur with this sort of driving - except maybe a smart enough computer would run a self-diagnosis at every startup and be like "bro, did you fuck with my sensors? Sorry, I ain't driving you anywhere".

Pretty sure these things would have self-diagnostics running on a regular basis, dude.

I'm playing the devil's advocate (and quoting Jeremy Clarkson) here. I would love me a self driving car. And surely with all the pimpin' people do on their rides I just can't help but think some asshole would disable checks or something. I can already see custom ROMs on xda to increase top speed to 110% of the speed limit.

[itxaka]

Agreed. A proprietary, closed source OS would be the best way to go on this.

Because a propietary closed OS wouldn't be hacked? I mean, I know people which use programs to change shit on their cars (Don't ask me what, I know next to nothing about cars) which is not allowed and should only be used by the maker of the car for adjustements and such.

Closed or open makes no difference for this.

[shagg_187]

Haven't they been driving on public roads already?

Not only that but it has driven 200,000 miles without any accident.

I'm ready to embrace the future. Others that are not? Enjoy the past.

[Kinitari]

I'm playing the devil's advocate here. I would love me a self driving car. And surely with all the pimpin' people do on their rides I just can't help but think some asshole would disable checks or something. I can already see custom ROMs on xda to increase top speed to 110% of the speed limit.

I see what you're saying, and yeah - that will definitely be an issue - but illegal modifications are already an issue! Those sorts of people are such an outlier - but yeah, hopefully there are a lot of safety nets in place for that sort of situation.

[Hoo-doo]

I'm playing the devil's advocate here. I would love me a self driving car. And surely with all the pimpin' people do on their rides I just can't help but think some asshole would disable checks or something. I can already see custom ROMs on xda to increase top speed to 110% of the speed limit.

Assuming these cars are always 100% connected to some kind of network, cops should be able to detect anomalies, and reroute these vehicles to the nearest police department.

[Solstice]

Because a propietary closed OS wouldn't be hacked? I mean, I know people which use programs to change shit on their cars (Don't ask me what, I know next to nothing about cars) which is not allowed and should only be used by the maker of the car for adjustements and such. Closed or open makes no difference for this.

I don't disagree with you on that, but it would take a lot longer than if it was Linux based.

[astroturfing]

Not only that but it has driven 200,000 miles without any accident. I'm ready to embrace the future. Others that are not? Enjoy the past.

BBC report said 140,000 miles, but yeah.

[Bisnic]

I hope that whoever was the "human driver" in these Google cars had fun with it. Like sitting backwards facing the seat, or feigning sleep, or waving his arms or some shit, just to see the confusion and fear from other drivers.

[Tacitus_]

I'm playing the devil's advocate (and quoting Jeremy Clarkson) here. I would love me a self driving car. And surely with all the pimpin' people do on their rides I just can't help but think some asshole would disable checks or something. I can already see custom ROMs on xda to increase top speed to 110% of the speed limit.

Again, nothing that you can't already do currently - other than overclocking your car - but you can do all sorts of other enhancements.

[Kinitari]

I hope that whoever was the "human driver" in these Google cars had fun with it. Like sitting backwards facing the seat, or feigning sleep, or waving his arms or some shit, just to see the confusion from other drivers.

There is a video of a blind man who was in the drivers seat in their last promo video - he was eating a taco at one point.

[pr0cs]

I can't wait for the day that I can pack my shit in my car, then sit in the back and drink and watch movies with my kids, or nap while the car takes me to my holiday destination.
I for one welcome our new robot overlords!

[Solstice]

I can't wait for the day that I can pack my shit in my car, then sit in the back and drink and watch movies with my kids, or nap while the car takes me to my holiday destination. I for one welcome our new robot overlords!

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Long car trips would be made bearable since I would just be able to sit back and read a book. I bet that would deal a hell of a blow to the airline industry. Sure it wouldn't get you there as fast, but if plane tickets keep getting more expensive, I can see it hurting them.

[AdventureMike]

Damn, Initial D would have been a boring anime with these in use.


That being said, I'm excited as hell for this prospect. Driving back up through Virginia the other day, I was in a 20-30 mile traffic jam of stop/go traffic due to an accident. The cause of the jam?

A) People waiting until they actually got to the accident to move out of the left lane, despite there being signs many miles before hand warning that the lane was blocked.

B) People cutting each other off.

C) Rubbernecking.

With automated cars, all of the above including possibly the original accident could have been avoided. I can't fucking wait.

[bigmakattack]

I hope that whoever was the "human driver" in these Google cars had fun with it. Like sitting backwards facing the seat, or feigning sleep, or waving his arms or some shit, just to see the confusion and fear from other drivers.

Id love to see one driver in one of those cars chugging down a few beers and watch everyone freak out, but im certain thats not gonna be allowed to happen still for obvious reasons.

[crpav]

This is the fist thing that I thought of:



Am I old?

[poppabk]

Outrage, vitriol, hermitism - the works. It could be like, 1 accident ALL YEAR because of an automated car, and people would still flip their shit.

Yeah. Even if the cars are proven to reduce accidents dramatically, the one failure will result in massive lawsuits. For some reason we accept human error and it's consequences much easier.

[DieH@rd]

[Solstice]

I only have one real question on the matter. Let's say that the country is outfitted with self-driving networked cars and roads. If the entire nation uses these, would people still be ALLOWED to drive themselves....

[TheJollyCorner]

this will greatly benefit all of the shitheads I see on a regular basis that are texting while driving.

[raphier]

Yeah. Even if the cars are proven to reduce accidents dramatically, the one failure will result in massive lawsuits. For some reason we accept human error and it's consequences much easier.

Or we hate everything new. People will sue the heck out of this, because it's a first. In 2100 nobody will probably even mind if 1000 cars get broken as it's a standard by then.

I am pretty sure we'd even kill aliens for same reason if they'd appear now and get in friendly connections only hundreds of years from now.

[Tashi]

So basically Autobots. Sounds cool.

[EmSeta]

Google's autonomous cars have passed their first driving test in Nevada

Can't be that hard?

[Des0lar]

Yeah. Even if the cars are proven to reduce accidents dramatically, the one failure will result in massive lawsuits. For some reason we accept human error and it's consequences much easier.

Nope. The driver will always be liable. Because you SHOULD still watch where you are going and control the car if you notice the computer doing some stupid shit. But people will disregard that at first and blame the car.

[The Skater]

Oh man I can't wait for this. As much as I enjoy driving sometimes, being able to watch videos, read, surf the web, etc. while on your way would be huge. Just doing what you'd normally be doing at home anyway to make your commute much more relaxed and entertaining.

[iNvid02]

Can these be hacked remotely to cause carnage?

[Solstice]

Can these be hacked remotely to cause carnage?

That's why it's been said they shouldn't allow wide area networking. Short range networking, something like bluetooth, should be fine, though.

[El Sloth]

Road head will no longer be an ethical concern.

Every car is now the Bang Bus.

[daw840]

Something I just thought about, this is going to cripple the police force's ability to apprehend criminals I think. Right now, they use (mostly made up) reasons to pull someone over and then convince them to let them search their vehicle. This is how they usually find drugs, illegal weapons, etc.

I am surprised the gov't is OK with this...

[Andrex]

Something I just thought about, this is going to cripple the police force's ability to apprehend criminals I think. Right now, they use (mostly made up) reasons to pull someone over and then convince them to let them search their vehicle. This is how they usually find drugs, illegal weapons, etc. I am surprised the gov't is OK with this...

There might be some kind of backdoor for police to pull cars over. Besides that, a future where 100% of cars are automated is a future where traffic cops don't exist and don't have to be paid.

[El Sloth]

Damn, Initial D would have been a boring anime with these in use.

I thought the really shitty 90's CGI already did that.

[daw840]

There might be some kind of backdoor for police to pull cars over. Besides that, a future where 100% of cars are automated is a future where traffic cops don't exist and don't have to be paid.

And people are free to traffic all the meth they want.....not sure I like that.