[El Sloth]

Something I just thought about, this is going to cripple the police force's ability to apprehend criminals I think. Right now, they use (mostly made up) reasons to pull someone over and then convince them to let them search their vehicle. This is how they usually find drugs, illegal weapons, etc. I am surprised the gov't is OK with this...

There will be new laws drawn up to compensate. Bet on it.

[Solstice]

And people are free to traffic all the meth they want.....not sure I like that.

Meth scanners in every car. If your car detects meth, you are driven to the nearest prison and your car drives you right into an empty cell.

[Fuu]

And people are free to traffic all the meth they want.....not sure I like that.

[Tobor]

Something I just thought about, this is going to cripple the police force's ability to apprehend criminals I think. Right now, they use (mostly made up) reasons to pull someone over and then convince them to let them search their vehicle. This is how they usually find drugs, illegal weapons, etc. I am surprised the gov't is OK with this...

"Illegal drugs have been detected in this vehicle. Rerouting to nearest police station."

/doors lock

[daw840]

There will be new laws drawn up to compensate. Bet on it.

I'm sure....but what kind of laws though?

fake edit: Laws that aren't incredibly intrusive that is...

[plainr_]

If it can take my dogs to the park, I'm game.

[sans_pants]

Nah, I love driving too much to let anything or anyone else do it for me. Maybe, just maybe it'd be nice when I have days where I have to go to work at 6 in the morning and im tired as all hell.

you arent going to have a choice

[daw840]

What about all of the revenue generated from speeding tickets, DUIs, and other miscellaneous infractions?

[Enco]

Oh yea.

The future baby.

Still not sure how practical it will be but I support it.

*Virus detected. Shutting down car to prevent further damage*

[coldvein]

are these on the streets right now? if i see one and crash into it could i potentially win a huge lawsuit?

[argon]

I wonder if in the future, these things will be networked as to prevent traffic jams.

Seems like a good idea in theory, but imagine what a malicious botnet of these things could do.

I remain skeptical of self-driving cars. Perhaps they will be perfect for freeways, but on surface streets, will they be able to read road signs? What about deal with pedestrians, animals, and bicyclists (hand signaling turns)? There's just so much visual communication going on besides the actual geography of the road.

[El Sloth]

I'm sure....but what kind of laws though? fake edit: Laws that aren't incredibly intrusive that is...

Ha, I would definitely not bet on that.

I imagine they would have to be. That or an agreement between car manufacturers and government agencies to let them "monitor" (in quotes because I'm not sure what that would entail) cars of interest. Get ready to sign a contract when you buy a car allowing all this?

[btkadams]

i eagerly await my self-driving car. this is going to completely change north american society (because our cities are largely built around driving). i've lost friends to car accidents that could have been avoided with a self-driving car.

no more drunk driving! :)

[daw840]

are these on the streets right now? if i see one and crash into it could i potentially win a huge lawsuit?

Probably not. Vehicle accidents and compensation amounts for injuries have been researched and averaged hundreds of thousands of times. You may get some money, but it won't be life changing money.

These cars probably have normal insurance policies.

[The Technomancer]

Embrace the future.

I can't wait

[windz]

I can't wait to sleep on the way to work. Glorious day.

[Foxy Fox 39]

And people are free to traffic all the meth they want.....not sure I like that.

The cars have built in meth censors.

[ElFly]

Can't wait for people to be removed from the driving wheel forever.

Probably some guys will whine about their love of driving and end up crashing anyway, so insurance will take care of them, cause you bet your ass google is going to have hella cameras and sensors and black boxes that they will have a super hard time proving it was google's fault.

[Solstice]

The cars have built in meth censors.

I'll be damned if I let them censor my meth!

grammar joke. meth is bad.

[Trike]

Finally, we are a step closer to an Astro Boy reality.

That'll be another million jobs gone. Truck drivers, bus drivers, cab drivers....

Nawww. The cars can't fuel themselves, or react to human eemergancies. Plus with commercial trucks you have to have someone there to protect the cargo. And I don't think the cars know how to see if someone wants a ride from it, yet.

[The Faceless Master]

Cause if while repairing it he disconnects and shorts out some sensor and doesn't realize it, it may cause crashes which wouldn't occur with a human driver. Trained professionals would have some sort of unit tests in place to ensure they've done their job properly. I trust Google's self driving car taking me places. I would trust Google's self driving car driving alongside me on the road. I'd be a bit paranoid with a Google's self driving car, tampered by some guy driving alongside me though.

why would the car self-drive when it detects a sensor not functioning?

[-Pyromaniac-]

These self driving cars are amazing. Would kill to have one. Waking up early in the morning about to go to work. Can relax on the ride there, eat your breakfast. Or long road trips you can sleep and chill.

So many possibilities.

[The Faceless Master]

Something I just thought about, this is going to cripple the police force's ability to apprehend criminals I think. Right now, they use (mostly made up) reasons to pull someone over and then convince them to let them search their vehicle. This is how they usually find drugs, illegal weapons, etc. I am surprised the gov't is OK with this...

so, one less reason for them to racially profile minorities? you're saying this is a BAD thing!?!?

[daw840]

i eagerly await my self-driving car. this is going to completely change north american society (because our cities are largely built around driving). i've lost friends to car accidents that could have been avoided with a self-driving car. no more drunk driving! :)

That would be fucking awesome. Able to go out to the bars and drink without having to worry about how to get home.....amazing. I think I just shed a tear....sniff

[kinggroin]

Heh, we work so hard NOT to work.

Sign me up!

[daw840]

so, one less reason for them to racially profile minorities? you're saying this is a BAD thing!?!?

No....I'm saying that people having an easier time trafficking meth is a bad thing. Regardless of race.

[bdizzle]

Agreed. A proprietary, closed source OS would be the best way to go on this.

A proprietary, closed source OS like Windows? Security by obscurity never works.

[shagg_187]

BBC report said 140,000 miles, but yeah.

https://plus.google.com/116899029375...ts/MVZBmrnzDio
"There’s much left to design and test, but we’ve now safely completed more than 200,000 miles of computer-led driving, gathering great experiences and an overwhelming number of enthusiastic supporters."

[sans_pants]

Seems like a good idea in theory, but imagine what a malicious botnet of these things could do. I remain skeptical of self-driving cars. Perhaps they will be perfect for freeways, but on surface streets, will they be able to read road signs? What about deal with pedestrians, animals, and bicyclists (hand signaling turns)? There's just so much visual communication going on besides the actual geography of the road.

yes they can handle all of that. do a little research

[kinggroin]

Again, nothing that you can't already do currently - other than overclocking your car - but you can do all sorts of other enhancements.

Fuck around with an older car's timing and you can in a sense, overclock it.

[Slappers Only]

In other news, a Golden Retreiver with a sucking chest wound passes driving test.

[argon]

yes they can handle all of that. do a little research

Try to add some content to your posts next time instead of trying to casually dismiss my argument.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/10/sc...=2&ref=science

Unsolved problems remain. Sebastian Thrun, a Google engineer and head of the Stanford Artificial Intelligence Laboratory, said the design team was stumped by how to train its system to follow the hand signals that a human traffic cop or crossing guard might make.

[The Technomancer]

Try to add some content to your posts next time instead of trying to casually dismiss my argument. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/10/sc...=2&ref=science

What? That doesn't make any sense. (the quote) Gesture recognition is the kind of project an undergraduate CS student puts together. I mean hell, they could just brute force it with a dictionary matching system.

[CornBurrito]

They have driven at least 250,000 miles in public streets already, and had only one accident. When the human was driving it.

Fuck statistics! I wanna remain a Luddite and needlessly endanger the lives of others!

[Lhexh]

Can't wait to yell at my car for being a dumbass and getting cutoff.

[bigmakattack]

you arent going to have a choice

Yeah, I'm not imagining that hapenning anytime soon and if so im moving to a place that doesnt restrict fun.

[slit]

As long as we still have the option to drive ourselves, I'm all for it. I want to to able to control a sexy, powerful vehicle if I want to.

[El Sloth]

you arent going to have a choice

Fuck this. I love the idea of self driving cars, but if I want to manually drive my car on some winding mountain road you best damn believe that I will.

I don't think legislation restricting driving will ever get passed (in the U.S. at least). I'm sure some people will try, but that sounds exactly like the kind of thing that the GOP would fight against.

[sans_pants]

As long as we still have the option to drive ourselves, I'm all for it. I want to to able to control a sexy, powerful vehicle if I want to.

why the hell would they give people the power to drive? were talking about erasing auto accidents, traffic jams, and slow driving from everyday life. why give some asshole the power to endanger everyone just so he can be stuck in the past?


sure driving is fun, and we can hope for possibly being able to drive in zones, probably outside of cities where we'd only hurt ourselves when we wreck. but to seriously hold back human progress just because you want the freedom to be an asshole isn't going to fly with civilized society. i surely expect a huge backlash to this, but this is one of those situations where the government should just mandate this and tell the populace to fuck off

[daw840]

Fuck this. I love the idea of self driving cars, but if I want to manually drive my car on some winding mountain road you best damn believe that I will. I don't think legislation restricting driving will ever get passed (in the U.S. at least). I'm sure some people will try, but that sounds exactly like the kind of thing that the GOP would fight against.

Yeah....it might get passed in clogged downtown areas, but there will never be a sweeping ban on human controlled driving.

[Zhengi]

Awesome. I hope they continue to develop this quickly. California sorely needs this technology.

[slit]

why the hell would they give people the power to drive? were talking about erasing auto accidents, traffic jams, and slow driving from everyday life. why give some asshole the power to endanger everyone just so he can be stuck in the past? sure driving is fun, and we can hope for possibly being able to drive in zones, probably outside of cities where we'd only hurt ourselves when we wreck. but to seriously hold back human progress just because you want the freedom to be an asshole isn't going to fly with civilized society. i surely expect a huge backlash to this, but this is one of those situations where the government should just mandate this and tell the populace to fuck off

Yeah well guess what that ain't happening. If you think they're going to force everybody to use an automatic driving system your nuts; not in our lifetime anyway. Risk is what makes life worth living.

[Hoo-doo]

Yeah....it might get passed in clogged downtown areas, but there will never be a sweeping ban on human controlled driving.

I think it's completely inevitable once the technology matures. The minority of people who still "love the feeling of driving" (I am one of these people) will have to do it on private property or a racetrack.

[sans_pants]

Yeah well guess what that ain't happening. If you think they're going to force everybody to use an automatic driving system your nuts; not in our lifetime anyway. Risk is what makes life worth living.

uh within 20 years it will be mandated. you are being foolish if you dont agree. and personally, the risk that some asshole kills me while i drive to work is not really a risk im looking for

[RyanardoDaVinci]

I don't understand how anyone can "enjoy" driving.

If you take your car out to a track a drift some boss turns, ok, I get that. But to say, "Yes! I get to drive an hour to work today!" or, "Whooboy, got a lot of errands to run today, I'll tell you what!"... I don't get it.

Maybe you just want to be able to continue driving like a maniac at 15+mph over the limit all the time, like some people I know?..

[slit]

uh within 20 years it will be mandated. you are being foolish if you dont agree. and personally, the risk that some asshole kills me while i drive to work is not really a risk im looking for

NO FUCKING WAY.

[shagg_187]

I don't understand how anyone can "enjoy" driving. If you take your car out to a track a drift some boss turns, ok, I get that. But to say, "Yes! I get to drive an hour to work today!" or, "Whooboy, got a lot of errands to run today, I'll tell you what!"... I don't get it. Maybe you just want to be able to continue driving like a maniac at 15+mph over the limit all the time, like some people I know?..

Get a nicer car.

[ConfusingJazz]

Get a nicer car.

Yeah, its fun for a bit. But commuting and traveling places, you really enjoy driving?

[sans_pants]

NO FUCKING WAY.

20 years from now is going to look so different from today, its probably going to blow your brains out. yes, 20 years is my prediction, it would be 10 years if it werent for all the baby boomers

[Bomber Bob]