Edmond Dantès
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The Avengers score - Best theme in a quite a while #1



Alan Silvestri (Back to the Future, Predator, The Abyss, The Mummy Returns, Forest Gump etc) really has composed one of the most memorable themes for a film in quite a while. The theme runs throughout the score, most notably in the following tracks:

Arrival
Assemble
The Avengers

The rest of the score isn't too shabby either.
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It had a score?
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I found the score completely forgettable and sorted of drowned into the background. It certainly wasn't one of Silvestri's better products.
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It is indeed a very great theme, but I wouldn't say the best in a while, since it's based heavily on Justice League's themes.

Originally Posted by DMczaf: View Post
It had a score?
"That's my secret, Cap. I'm always angry."
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Iron Man 1 soundtrack is my fave out of all the productions. Thor and Cap had some great pieces as well.
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I liked Battlesip more.
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Originally Posted by DMczaf: View Post
It had a score?
The score was present as much as the threat.
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Originally Posted by Willy105: View Post
It is indeed a very great theme, but I wouldn't say the best in a while, since it's based heavily on Justice League's themes.



"That's my secret, Cap. I'm always angry."
I like Christopher Drake's work on all the animated features.
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Awesome, the backlash against The Avengers is starting.

Originally Posted by Nesotenso: View Post
Iron Man 1 soundtrack is my fave out of all the productions. Thor and Cap had some great pieces as well.
Iron Man 1? Really? That barely had a score, just noise.

Thor and Captain America (also from Silvestri) had pretty good music though.
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A bland, forgettable score, just like every other Marvel Studios movie so far. I loved Avengers, but Marvel Studios really needs to STEP THE FUCK UP on the music front and hire some real composers.
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Didn't notice any of the movies music, it was so forgettable and the movies loudness pretty much just rolled all over it
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Originally Posted by JdFoX187: View Post
I found the score completely forgettable and sorted of drowned into the background. It certainly wasn't one of Silvestri's better products.
Agree, I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, but honestly wouldn't be able to pick out the music if given various options.
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I found most of it uninspired save for the main theme, which was really all that mattered to me. None of the films really have that rememberable motif ala 'Raiders March' IMO. I think the Avengers theme is the best one so far.

Honestly, I'll never understand Marvel's lack of effort to create an iconic score for any their movies.
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Originally Posted by Willy105: View Post
Awesome, the backlash against The Avengers is starting.



Iron Man 1? Really? That barely had a score, just noise.

Thor and Captain America (also from Silvestri) had pretty good music though.
Loved Driving with the top down and most of the soundtrack
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Originally Posted by Solo: View Post
A bland, forgettable score, just like every other Marvel Studios movie so far. I loved Avengers, but Marvel Studios really needs to STEP THE FUCK UP on the music front and hire some real composers.
Alan Silvestri is as real as it gets.
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I agree, I found the theme incredible and I've been listening to it like crazy since seeing the film.
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#17

As it rolled over the credits, it was brilliant. Been blasting it on my iTunes since last week.
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Originally Posted by Willy105: View Post
Alan Silvestri is as real as it gets.
In 1985. Not in 2012. He's over the hill and has been for years.
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ok, 1:35 of assemble was a badass transition
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Alan Silvestri hasn't made a decent score since Van Helsing IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjzSsJQFYwE
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here comes the hyperbole from all sides
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Loved Avengers.

Cant say I remember the score though.
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#23

Joke?

Best theme score this year belongs to Giacchino's John Carter.
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While not very memorable, the exception is the last part of "Assemble" (starting with 3:20). It's like seeing that part all over again.

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Originally Posted by Solo: View Post
In 1985. Not in 2012. He's over the hill and has been for years.
I don't think so. Although I do think his trend of trying to add techno and contemporary sounds into his score is a turn off, Alan Silvestri is still has fantastic as ever, especially with his scores for The Polar Express and Beowulf.

Even The A-Team had this.
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Someone needs to get Howard Shore to do one of these superhero scores.
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Originally Posted by Solo: View Post
Someone needs to get Howard Shore to do one of these superhero scores.
Too busy giving Middle-earth a voice and long may it continue if there ever is a Silmarillion adaptation.
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Someone put together a composter / soundtrack thread.

I live for this shit.
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Aside from Shore's LOTR scores, the ideas of running themes and leitmotifs seem to be lost on modern composers/scores, which is a fucking travesty.

"Art form X used to be so much better!" is typically a rose-tinted glasses view on things, but in the case of film scoring, it's actually true.
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Originally Posted by Solo: View Post
Someone needs to get Howard Shore to do one of these superhero scores.
He has done scores for some great movies, but his music itself is not that special. Even the Lord of the Rings had a lot of filler.
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Originally Posted by Topher: View Post
I found most of it uninspired save for the main theme, which was really all that mattered to me. None of the films really have that rememberable motif ala 'Raiders March' IMO. I think the Avengers theme is the best one so far.

Honestly, I'll never understand Marvel's lack of effort to create an iconic score for any their movies.
I sort of liked the overall theme of The Incredible Hulk. The music playing during the fight between he and Abomination was pretty good. Too bad they've completely abandoned everything from that film.
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Originally Posted by Edmond Dantès: View Post
Too busy giving Middle-earth a voice and long may it continue if there ever is a Silmarillion adaptation.
I forgot about that, that's one more reason to look forward to The Hobbit. As if there weren't already over a hundred.

And I very much doubt Silmarillion will ever happen. It was what Tolkien wanted most though, out of all of it. Such a shame he never lived to see it get published.


Originally Posted by JdFoX187: View Post
I sort of liked the overall theme of The Incredible Hulk. The music playing during the fight between he and Abomination was pretty good. Too bad they've completely abandoned everything from that film.
I think they're taking what happened in that film as canon, considering where Banner was when the film started, and the continuing theme of him showing control over The Hulk.
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"The Avengers" is a kick ass theme song.
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Originally Posted by Willy105: View Post
He has done scores for some great movies, but his music itself is not that special. Even the Lord of the Rings had a lot of filler.
Oh no you didn't.
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It's true that Marvel movies in general have lacked a concentrated effort in making a musical universe to their movies.

It became very obvious in The Avengers, when despite Silvestri's great theme, it completely lacked themes for specific characters, mostly because they didn't exist. Even Captain America's march only got a few notes during the ship fight.

As great as The Avenger's theme was, it would even be even better if we could hear the music from each of the franchises play against each other just like the characters in the movie.
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Huh. The music in this movie was a non-event. Bland and forgettable is right. For beautiful big adventure music this year John Carter is the one you're looking for.
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Originally Posted by jett: View Post
Huh. The music in this movie was a non-event. Bland and forgettable is right. For beautiful big adventure music this year John Carter is the one you're looking for.
ma' jett.
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Originally Posted by Solo: View Post
Aside from Shore's LOTR scores, the ideas of running themes and leitmotifs seem to be lost on modern composers/scores, which is a fucking travesty.

"Art form X used to be so much better!" is typically a rose-tinted glasses view on things, but in the case of film scoring, it's actually true.
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Originally Posted by JdFoX187: View Post
I sort of liked the overall theme of The Incredible Hulk. The music playing during the fight between he and Abomination was pretty good. Too bad they've completely abandoned everything from that film.
Agreed, also 'The Flower'.
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Originally Posted by Willy105: View Post
Even the Lord of the Rings had a lot of filler.
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Originally Posted by Willy105: View Post
Awesome, the backlash against The Avengers is starting.
A little bit premature on the defense.

Nevermind, I see you putting a lot more than a shoe in your mouth since that post. :)
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Originally Posted by Nesotenso: View Post
Iron Man 1 soundtrack is my fave out of all the productions. Thor and Cap had some great pieces as well.
Iron Man's score was literally a guitar wanking the same measure-long riff for 2 hours, when it even decided to show up.

Originally Posted by Dead: View Post
Alan Silvestri hasn't made a decent score since Van Helsing IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjzSsJQFYwE
Agreed that shit was boss. Shame about the rest of the movie.
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Originally Posted by thekad: View Post
Giacchino exists in a range of talent so far above most other modern composers it's hard to comprehend he even exists.

He pretty much replaced John Williams' style of bombastic music after he left to do smaller more rhythmic scores.
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Originally Posted by Topher: View Post
I found most of it uninspired save for the main theme, which was really all that mattered to me. None of the films really have that rememberable motif ala 'Raiders March' IMO. I think the Avengers theme is the best one so far.

Honestly, I'll never understand Marvel's lack of effort to create an iconic score for any their movies.
I liked the Spiderman theme. And the quasi-X-men TAS theme remix used for X-men 1 put a smile on my face.

But I agree that there is potential for so much more.
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I didn't notice the music at all; I can't remember any of the themes.

I remember Star Trek, Dark Knight, Inception, among others.
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Originally Posted by The Anti-Monitor: View Post
While not very memorable, the exception is the last part of "Assemble" (starting with 3:20). It's like seeing that part all over again.

Chills ran down my spine during that money shot. In my second go around, the audience actually clapped.



Originally Posted by Anth0ny: View Post
I liked the Spiderman theme. And the quasi-X-men TAS theme remix used for X-men 1 put a smile on my face.

But I agree that there is potential for so much more.
Should've specified. I mean their efforts leading up to the Avengers, but yeah amazing theme.
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Originally Posted by Anth0ny: View Post
I liked the Spiderman theme. And the quasi-X-men TAS theme remix used for X-men 1 put a smile on my face.

But I agree that there is potential for so much more.
As soon as that track starts I can see the Columbia Studio logo and credits play in my head.
Elfman's last great work.
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Yeah, this is my favourite superhero score, despite it being Danny Elfman and despite my numerous problems with the Raimi films.

Just so... inspiring.
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Originally Posted by Scullibundo: View Post
As soon as that track starts I can see the Columbia Studio logo and credits play in my head.
Yeah, Elfman Spider-Man is a classic. I wonder what kind of music James Horner will make for the remake.
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I always thought the Spidey theme was too generic Elfman. IIRC a lot of people at the time felt that way too. Like he didn't try and just mishmashed his stuff from before into one theme

Any super hero thing he does inevitable makes me think of his Batman score, same with Hulk.