[Piggus]

That cracked me up. Sniggers.

Haha... A friend of mine had a dark elf character in Oblivion that he called "Snigga."

I guess I say it occasionally if I'm with my close group of friends. But it's usually when quoting a song/movie/video. I don't use it in my regular vocabulary. Like others said, context is important.

[MrGame&Watch]

When my friends and I wish to sound ignorant and shit we say nigga a lot, usually drunk though. It's used more in a self depricating way. We're also a mixed race group of friends as well.

[AShep]

I wanna know what other things black folks have the right to find offensive. do tell.

Anyone can be offended by anything and - for the 3rd time now - I won't use ANY word that a person in my company may find offensive.

What I'm saying is that basing your degree of offense on the colour of the person uttering the word's skin is hypocritical and inherently racist in and of itself.

[MIMIC]

If its so horribly offensive to your ears don't use it. Like I said, I won't use a word that you may find personally offensive in your company - in fact when it comes to the word nigger, I prefer not to use it at all. However, to claim that the word itself should only be uttered by black lips is assinine.

Why is it so hard to understand that certain groups of people are entitled to refer to one another in particular ways and not others? This is a very loose analogy but you don't call your mom and dad by their first names, do you? You don't address a judge by his or her first name, right? You don't go into a frat house/sorority and call everyone your brother or sister, do you? As such with the n-word. It's just the way it is. And for every similar group, there's a reason why only the group members refer to each other in a particular way....as such with the n-word.

[onemic]

Anyone can be offended by anything and - for the 3rd time now - I won't use ANY word that a person in my company may find offensive. What I'm saying is that basing your degree of offense on the colour of the person uttering the word's skin is hypocritical and inherently racist in and of itself.

If you knew of the historical context of the word, you should know that what you just said is complete bullshit

I guess if you hear gay people refer to themselves as faggots or an asian person refering to themselves as chink you'll say that everyone else should have a right to use it to whoever they want, however they want as well.

[Devolution]

I always find it ironic people think it's unfair for a minority to use a certain word when it wasn't created (or utilized) out of fairness in the first place.

[Riggs]

white people can and do say nigga, but they want to say it without the angry stares and potential beatdowns from black folks and I say FUCK THAT. Deal with it.

Lol no problem pal you can have it all to yourself.

After page 6 I think this thread lost any hope of civilized debate.

So tired of the angry passive aggressive bs. Just say what you mean or don't bother posting.

[theignoramus]

Anyone can be offended by anything and - for the 3rd time now - I won't use ANY word that a person in my company may find offensive. What I'm saying is that basing your degree of offense on the colour of the person uttering the word's skin is hypocritical and inherently racist in and of itself.

so a gay man who bases his degree of offence to the word "FAG" on the sexual orientation of the person uttering "fag" is inherently what, prejudiced against heterosexuals?
or an Italian man who bases his degree of offence to the word "guinea" on the ethnic background of the person uttering the word "guinea" is inherently prejudiced against non-Italians.

what kind of fool ass logic is this?

[gatti-man]

The word nigga/nigger is entirely offensive to me which is odd since im white. I dont ever say it even if its a song im humming i will skip over it without even thinking about it. Idk why im so against the word but it makes me cringe and i find it embarrassing to be heard listening to that kind of music. I dont allow it in my workplace either even after hours.

[theignoramus]

Lol no problem pal you can have it all to yourself. After page 6 I think this thread lost any hope of civilized debate. So tired of the angry passive aggressive bs. Just say what you mean or don't bother posting.

But I did. say whatever racial slurs you want but dont fucking tell us to smile and accept it like it's 1950. dont tell me not to furrow my brow at a white man calling me a nigga.

[Riggs]

But I did. say whatever racial slurs you want but dont fucking tell us to smile and accept it like it's 1950.

Whoa. Quote me where I said or pointed to that. You need to stop thinking all whites think like this. Was waiting for a response like this. It's almost comical how obvious your problem with white people is.

Guess what , we are not all like that.

And whats with call you any racial slurs I want? Ya I am white so.obviously I am just dying to call you vile racial slurs. Not sure how you grew up and how much you have been subjected to. I am sorry. But not all of us are racist dude.

The other poster was the one debating that , not me. I simply told you , you can have the word i don't want it.

[Glass Rebel]

Only use it when reciting lyrics and Chappelle/Chris Rock skits. Don't really know why I'd use it otherwise. Same with "fag" (except cigarettes when I'm joking).

[theignoramus]

Whoa. Quote me where I said or pointed to that. You need to stop thinking all whites think like this. Was waiting for a response like this. It's almost comical how obvious your problem with white people is. Guess what , we are not all like that. And whats with call you any racial slurs I want? Ya I am white so.obviously I am just dying to call you vile racial slurs. Not sure how you grew up and how much you have been subjected to. I am sorry. But not all of us are racist dude. The other poster was the one debating that , not me. I simply told you , you can have the word i don't want it.

and I simply told you what my position was, since you implied I was dancing around it with passive aggressive shit.

[SmokyDave]

I don't buy the Nigger / Nigga distinction, that's for sure. It's all about the intent of the speaker, not the letter at the end of the word.

I always find it ironic people think it's unfair for a minority to use a certain word when it wasn't created (or utilized) out of fairness in the first place.

This sounds like two wrongs to make a right.

[Riggs]

and I simply told you what my position was, since you implied I was dancing around it with passive aggressive shit.

If I am wrong then seriously I am sorry man. Maybe I am reading into your posts to much. Just so tired of all this racial tension in OT lately. Seems to be a daily thing now. Just went over to gaming side for a day it was like a breath of fresh air. Has OT always been like this? Only been on GAF since like feb or something.

[sankt-Antonio]

I only use the word when i order a "Neger" at the Biergarten.

[theignoramus]

I don't buy the Nigger / Nigga distinction, that's for sure. It's all about the intent of the speaker, not the letter at the end of the word. This sounds like two wrongs to make a right.

yeah except one of the "wrongs" (low class, street vernacular we use among ourselves and put to excess use) isnt even in the same ball park as the other "wrong" (flat out RACIST vernacular) and anyone who tries to say they're two sides of same coin is being intellectually dishonest.

[SmokyDave]

yeah except one of the "wrongs" (low class, street vernacular we put to excess use) isnt even in the same ball park as the other "wrong" (flat out RACIST vernacular) and anyone who tries to say they're two sides of same coin is being intellectually dishonest.

I don't remember stating otherwise. They aren't exactly the same but the underlying link between word and race is still there. They aren't two sides of the same coin, they're two similar looking coins.

[BradleyUK]

I absolutely hate hearing the word coming from black or white person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxp0...e_gdata_player

[CrushDance]

]Fellow African American who has endured the same trials and tribulation as myself... let us, for the moment, jokingly refer to one another as what our oppressor has labeled us. If for nothing else, than to provide a temporary but adequate reprieve (and a bit of humor) from the bullshit that we witness on a daily basis. Sound good, nigga? Word.[/B] But it depends on what company I'm in. I turn it on and off. Back in my hometown, I'd look odd for not saying it. That's the only time I really do it anymore. Its always funny seeing a white guy roll in with one of my friends and watching him feel around that minefield in the dark while he tries to figure out if its okay or not to say one his favorite Jay-Z verses though.

Makes a lot of sense. Not.

This is a tired discussion. One that black Americans just seem to looooove using. While it is found rarely in other parts of the world. Whatever.

[Riggs]

Last two posts , agreed.

[CrushDance]

lol I love how you're trying to tell us how we should feel about our own shit. And no, you don't understand. Its okay that you don't, but stop trying to act like you're a subject matter expert over people that have been black for longer than you.

Oh this is hilarious. So, I'm black. What the fuck does this even mean? If you want to call people niggers or niggas, FEEL FREE. I don't care! But don't sit here and ironically enough say that *every* black person finds that word endearing or acceptable. My parents aren't from NA and they raised us here. Yet I was subjected to that ridiculous crap for all of my early childhood. And to top it off, I met VERY few black people here in Canada who use that term apart from the deadbeat, empty brained gangster wannabe's. Yeah, slavery happened in America! Black people also owned slaves in America! Black people owned black people before America even existed! People have been owning people since day zero. Yet here we are, STILL dealing with the same shit nearly half a century later!

If people want to move on. If the black people in America want to move on. Then they should fucking move on by going for education or you know, realizing that using dumb-ass words such as "nigga" does NOT endear you to anyone and only makes the average person(who is white in NA btw) think of you as nothing more than an idiot! It is not cool, it is not chic and it is not GOOD.

It absolutely befuddles me that this pathetic excuse of "We're taking the word back" is all good and then someone else says "It's not even the same word!". Well which is it? Every-time you people use that word, all you're doing is bringing a surge of history to the present that people are trying to work past. How fucking long is that word going to be used for? At what point will you people finally "own" it?

I have absolutely NO respect for people who use that word. That shit has been used against me way too many times in a negative context for me to even acknowledge it as nothing more than the voices of hate echoing through history. Shame on all of you who still use that word. And especially shame on all of you American blacks that use that word. Idiotic rap-stars should be the LAST people you look up too as role models. Homosexuals don't go around calling themselves faggots or dikes. Rape victims don't go around call themselves sluts. Only black people go around calling each other NiggERS. Absolutely disgusting filth.

[Big Baybee]

"I say it 100 times every morning because it keeps my teeth white."- Paul Mooney

[Riggs]

Oh this is hilarious. So, I'm black. What the fuck does this even mean? If you want to call people niggers or niggas, FEEL FREE. I don't care! But don't sit here and ironically enough say that *every* black person finds that word endearing or acceptable. My parents aren't from NA and they raised us here. Yet I was subjected to that ridiculous crap for all of my early childhood. And to top it off, I met VERY few black people here in Canada who use that term apart from the deadbeat, empty brained gangster wannabe's. Yeah, slavery happened in America! Black people also owned slaves in America! Black people owned black people before America even existed! People have been owning people since day zero. Yet here we are, STILL dealing with the same shit nearly half a century later! If people want to move on. If the black people in America want to move on. Then they should fucking move on by going for education or you know, realizing that using dumb-ass words such as "nigga" does NOT endear you to anyone and only makes the average person(who is white in NA btw) think of you as nothing more than an idiot! It is not cool, it is not chic and it is not GOOD. It absolutely befuddles me that this pathetic excuse of "We're taking the word back" is all good and then someone else says "It's not even the same word!". Well which is it? Every-time you people use that word, all you're doing is bringing a surge of history to the present that people are trying to work past. How fucking long is that word going to be used for? At what point will you people finally "own" it? I have absolutely NO respect for people who use that word. That shit has been used against me way too many times in a negative context for me to even acknowledge it as nothing more than the voices of hate echoing through history. Shame on all of you who still use that word. And especially shame on all of you American blacks that use that word. Idiotic rap-stars should be the LAST people you look up too as role models. Homosexuals don't go around calling themselves faggots or dikes. Rape victims don't go around call themselves sluts. Only black people go around calling each other NiggERS. Absolutely disgusting filth.

Funny part is I never even did any of those things nasty said. Never got an apology, nothin. And yes I understand how it could be offensive for a white person to use this term. Again I am responding to his quote. Pretty much agree with everything you said also.

[RawPower]

Oh this is hilarious. So, I'm black. What the fuck does this even mean? If you want to call people niggers or niggas, FEEL FREE. I don't care! But don't sit here and ironically enough say that *every* black person finds that word endearing or acceptable. My parents aren't from NA and they raised us here. Yet I was subjected to that ridiculous crap for all of my early childhood. And to top it off, I met VERY few black people here in Canada who use that term apart from the deadbeat, empty brained gangster wannabe's. Yeah, slavery happened in America! Black people also owned slaves in America! Black people owned black people before America even existed! People have been owning people since day zero. Yet here we are, STILL dealing with the same shit nearly half a century later! If people want to move on. If the black people in America want to move on. Then they should fucking move on by going for education or you know, realizing that using dumb-ass words such as "nigga" does NOT endear you to anyone and only makes the average person(who is white in NA btw) think of you as nothing more than an idiot! It is not cool, it is not chic and it is not GOOD. It absolutely befuddles me that this pathetic excuse of "We're taking the word back" is all good and then someone else says "It's not even the same word!". Well which is it? Every-time you people use that word, all you're doing is bringing a surge of history to the present that people are trying to work past. How fucking long is that word going to be used for? At what point will you people finally "own" it? I have absolutely NO respect for people who use that word. That shit has been used against me way too many times in a negative context for me to even acknowledge it as nothing more than the voices of hate echoing through history. Shame on all of you who still use that word. And especially shame on all of you American blacks that use that word. Idiotic rap-stars should be the LAST people you look up too as role models. Homosexuals don't go around calling themselves faggots or dikes. Rape victims don't go around call themselves sluts. Only black people go around calling each other NiggERS. Absolutely disgusting filth.

So much venom here, haha.

But in all seriousness, I never call myself or my fellow Jewish/Semitic folk with our respective derogatory terms. However, my reaction to hearing terms like "kike", "sand nigger", or other antisemitic canards from non-Semites would likely be much more hostile than hearing it from a fellow Jew. Even I don't know why that is, but I assume it's the same for blacks.

[Riggs]

So much venom here, haha. But in all seriousness, I never call myself or my fellow Jewish/Semitic folk with our respective derogatory terms. However, my reaction to hearing terms like "kike", "sand nigger", or other antisemitic canards from non-Semites would likely be much more hostile than hearing it from a fellow Jew.

Lol, truth venom? That makes no sense. But it should.

[CrushDance]

yeah except one of the "wrongs" (low class, street vernacular we use among ourselves and put to excess use) isnt even in the same ball park as the other "wrong" (flat out RACIST vernacular) and anyone who tries to say they're two sides of same coin is being intellectually dishonest.

I don't understand where this disconnect is coming from. Why can't you people just live your lives without saying either word?! What is this burning desire to cry out "Nigga!" that drives you people? Good lord I feel ashamed to be black sometimes when some moron on the street waves or nods and says "Sup my nigga". Good grief.

So much venom here, haha. But in all seriousness, I never call myself or my fellow Jewish/Semitic folk with our respective derogatory terms. However, my reaction to hearing terms like "kike", "sand nigger", or other antisemitic canards from non-Semites would likely be much more hostile than hearing it from a fellow Jew. Even I don't know why that is, but I assume it's the same for blacks.

I am not saying that white people should be able to use the word. Because unlike some people here saying "Durr history man". I actually *Get* history and the history of the word. I'm not even from America! I'm first gen Canadian. But I am still forced to wade through that crap way too often. It's annoying and outright infuriating. I am not a slave. Nobody in my family ever was(Going far back as I can tell). So what the hell does that have to do with me? But I am somehow supposed to bear burden for ALL the atrocities committed against every black person ever? And the vast lot of young black people TODAY never were enslaved. I'm sure you went through some terrible shit probably, but you weren't slaves. You hear people saying "Kill that nigger", "Fuck niggers", "He/she's a nigger!" and your best line of retaliation is to stoop to their level? You people are doing the insulting for them!

And I still want my answer from the people in this thread: Black people owned slaves in America. Now what?

[Big Baybee]

Oh this is hilarious. So, I'm black. What the fuck does this even mean? If you want to call people niggers or niggas, FEEL FREE. I don't care! But don't sit here and ironically enough say that *every* black person finds that word endearing or acceptable. My parents aren't from NA and they raised us here. Yet I was subjected to that ridiculous crap for all of my early childhood. And to top it off, I met VERY few black people here in Canada who use that term apart from the deadbeat, empty brained gangster wannabe's. Yeah, slavery happened in America! Black people also owned slaves in America! Black people owned black people before America even existed! People have been owning people since day zero. Yet here we are, STILL dealing with the same shit nearly half a century later! If people want to move on. If the black people in America want to move on. Then they should fucking move on by going for education or you know, realizing that using dumb-ass words such as "nigga" does NOT endear you to anyone and only makes the average person(who is white in NA btw) think of you as nothing more than an idiot! It is not cool, it is not chic and it is not GOOD. It absolutely befuddles me that this pathetic excuse of "We're taking the word back" is all good and then someone else says "It's not even the same word!". Well which is it? Every-time you people use that word, all you're doing is bringing a surge of history to the present that people are trying to work past. How fucking long is that word going to be used for? At what point will you people finally "own" it? I have absolutely NO respect for people who use that word. That shit has been used against me way too many times in a negative context for me to even acknowledge it as nothing more than the voices of hate echoing through history. Shame on all of you who still use that word. And especially shame on all of you American blacks that use that word. Idiotic rap-stars should be the LAST people you look up too as role models. Homosexuals don't go around calling themselves faggots or dikes. Rape victims don't go around call themselves sluts. Only black people go around calling each other NiggERS. Absolutely disgusting filth.

Its just a word, and like it or not, the meaning of the word changes. It all depends on the context. Guess you'll just have to deal with that and be angry.

[Riggs]

Its just a word, and like it or not, the meaning of the word changes. It all depends on the context. Guess you'll just have to deal with that and be angry.

Wow baybee thanks for adding so much to the conversation! Seriously that's all you got? The word hasn't changed meaning yet. Give it another 50 years and you will have a point.

Good job reading the bullet points in the previous pages on how to argue that some how using this word is not a bad idea though.

[CrushDance]

Its just a word, and like it or not, the meaning of the word changes. It all depends on the context. Guess you'll just have to deal with that and be angry.

Please explain this to me: Black people in America are always talking about racism. And I know it exists, I know it's real. I've felt and lived it. But I have to know: If racism really bothers you that much. If you really hate being labeled and cast aside so easily. Why the hell are you using the very SAME word to describe other black people?

This reeks of some next level brainwashing.

[Dreams-Visions]

Oh this is hilarious. So, I'm black. What the fuck does this even mean? If you want to call people niggers or niggas, FEEL FREE. I don't care! But don't sit here and ironically enough say that *every* black person finds that word endearing or acceptable. My parents aren't from NA and they raised us here. Yet I was subjected to that ridiculous crap for all of my early childhood. And to top it off, I met VERY few black people here in Canada who use that term apart from the deadbeat, empty brained gangster wannabe's. Yeah, slavery happened in America! Black people also owned slaves in America! Black people owned black people before America even existed! People have been owning people since day zero. Yet here we are, STILL dealing with the same shit nearly half a century later! If people want to move on. If the black people in America want to move on. Then they should fucking move on by going for education or you know, realizing that using dumb-ass words such as "nigga" does NOT endear you to anyone and only makes the average person(who is white in NA btw) think of you as nothing more than an idiot! It is not cool, it is not chic and it is not GOOD. It absolutely befuddles me that this pathetic excuse of "We're taking the word back" is all good and then someone else says "It's not even the same word!". Well which is it? Every-time you people use that word, all you're doing is bringing a surge of history to the present that people are trying to work past. How fucking long is that word going to be used for? At what point will you people finally "own" it? I have absolutely NO respect for people who use that word. That shit has been used against me way too many times in a negative context for me to even acknowledge it as nothing more than the voices of hate echoing through history. Shame on all of you who still use that word. And especially shame on all of you American blacks that use that word. Idiotic rap-stars should be the LAST people you look up too as role models. Homosexuals don't go around calling themselves faggots or dikes. Rape victims don't go around call themselves sluts. Only black people go around calling each other NiggERS. Absolutely disgusting filth.

This was a heart-felt and real post. I tip my hat.

still using it!

[Riggs]

This was a heart-felt and real post. I tip my hat. still using it!

Still face palming when i hear you use it!

[Devolution]

I don't buy the Nigger / Nigga distinction, that's for sure. It's all about the intent of the speaker, not the letter at the end of the word. This sounds like two wrongs to make a right.

Hey look you get to use certain swears that sound awesome in Brit speak and terrible here. I jelly.

[Big Baybee]

Please explain this to me: Black people in America are always talking about racism. And I know it exists, I know it's real. I've felt and lived it. But I have to know: If racism really bothers you that much. If you really hate being labeled and cast aside so easily. Why the hell are you using the very SAME word to describe other black people? This reeks of some next level brainwashing.

I know gays that say fag, I know Mexicans that say beaner. Are they brainwashed too?

[Dreams-Visions]

Still face palming when i hear you use it!

*nods*

[Riggs]

I know gays that say fag, I know Mexicans that say beaner. Are they brainwashed too?

Horrible argument. Defend your use by saying well they do it too!

Gays who say faggot
Mexicans who say "beaner"

Blacks who say nigga. Something tells me this happens a lot more then the above two. But how will we ever know.

[OttomanScribe]

If I have any problem with the word, its this kind of mentality associated with it. I can understand former black slaves and black people before the civil rights movement using the word and making it there own, but what claim do modern black people have to the word other than evoking the struggle of our ancestors? And by being so adamantly against white people using the word, you are essentially equating them to the slave owners of the past. Most modern white people aren't slave owners, probably aren't racist, and hold no animosity towards blacks yet when they use the word, they're somehow evoking the will of their (possible) slave owning ancestors. I just feel that this type of thinking has no place in modern society. Yes we still have racial issue to deal with today but this kind of needless segregation of "its ours and you people can't use it" isn't helping.

You wanna say it really bad do you? Why?

[Big Baybee]

Horrible argument. Defend your use by saying well they do it too!

Words have multiple meanings and can be used different ways in different situations. To deny that kind of means you aren't living in reality.

[Riggs]

Words have multiple meanings and can be used different ways in different situations. To deny that kind of means you aren't living in reality.

It's a gross word. It derives from nigger. You should try harder to find a word that does not derive from the word nigger. But hey I am in crazy alternate reality mode what do I know!?

Put an A at end of horrible racist word. Totally new meaning guys! And you would never say that word in a job interview I bet. But sorry all this logical thinking is crazy.

[Ezenzer]

Please explain this to me: Black people in America are always talking about racism. And I know it exists, I know it's real. I've felt and lived it. But I have to know: If racism really bothers you that much. If you really hate being labeled and cast aside so easily. Why the hell are you using the very SAME word to describe other black people? This reeks of some next level brainwashing.

What confuses me about your post is that you speak of "black people" as if it's a single entity and not millions of people with totally different opinions on the term. Most of the older people in my family can't stand either variation of the word. "Nigga" doesn't bother me at all, though, and it's pretty much synonymous with "dude" in my head.

[speculawyer]

I have absolutely NO respect for people who use that word. That shit has been used against me way too many times in a negative context for me to even acknowledge it as nothing more than the voices of hate echoing through history. Shame on all of you who still use that word. And especially shame on all of you American blacks that use that word. Idiotic rap-stars should be the LAST people you look up too as role models. Homosexuals don't go around calling themselves faggots or dikes. Rape victims don't go around call themselves sluts. Only black people go around calling each other NiggERS. Absolutely disgusting filth.

That is a good rant.

But . . . some people do successfully grab former slurs and turn them around.

Queer Nation is gay rights group.

Dan Savage seems to love throwing around the word faggot.

The Pink Triangle symbol for gay pride was stolen from the Nazis who used it to mark gays is concentration camps.

Slut Walks became a protest against people blaming rapes on a woman's appearance.

Dykes on Bikes is a Lesbian motorcycle club.

Etc. I think it is fine for people to take it back such terms.

[Mecha_Infantry]

I don't buy the Nigger / Nigga distinction, that's for sure. It's all about the intent of the speaker, not the letter at the end of the word. This sounds like two wrongs to make a right.

You damn well know what the difference is David

[Big Baybee]

It's a gross word. It derives from nigger. You should try harder to find a word that does not derive from the word nigger. But hey I am in crazy alternate reality mode what do I know!?

But it does not have the same meaning. How are you not getting that?

[CrushDance]

I know gays that say fag, I know Mexicans that say beaner. Are they brainwashed too?

What. Do you think the people who had to hide their homosexuality, were beaten, insulted, maybe even killed for being gay would find your usage appropriate? Do you think that black people in America who had dogs set upon them, were beaten, raped, tortured, lynched, banned from public institutions, denied education, et freaking al. Do you think if they were alive today, they would find your usage acceptable? DO YOU THINK MLK WOULD FIND YOUR BEHAVIOUR ACCEPTABLE? I'm asking YOU why you think using the word Nigger/A is appropriate based on history and even up to today.

My goodness. I pity the people who suffered and died for black people to be free in America. To be given the same liberties. And this is how "we" repay that sacrifice. By using the very same terminology that was used against "us" negatively.

Even if you want to say that you're "taking the word back". At-least fucking do something! But you and I both know very well that blacks in America are some of the poorest and least educated. So much for that! What are you taking that word "back" and doing with it?

[Hamplin]

If it's used as a term for a bro/homie , i don't mind.
The n word is mostly used out of spite around here though. Then i mind greatly.

[AShep]

I know gays that say fag, I know Mexicans that say beaner. Are they brainwashed too?

No but they're hypocrites employing a double-standard.

NOW THAT'S OKAY. IT IS.

It's absolutely your perogative to be offended when a white person uses a word you and your friends throw around casually. I couldn't possibly tell you how to feel about something like that.

However we have people in this thread denying that it is in any way a double-standard or hypocritical which is bullshit. If its going to be your stance that black people can say it but white people can't then you're a hypocrite. That's fine and I understand but have some balls and fucking own it.

[Riggs]

People just won't admit their wrong on this. Crushed I would save you breath. And baybee read my edit. Sure you will argue that also.

[Big Baybee]

What. Do you think the people who had to hide their homosexuality, were beaten, insulted, maybe even killed for being gay would find your usage appropriate? Do you think that black people in America who had dogs set upon them, were beaten, raped, tortured, lynched, banned from public institutions, denied education, et freaking al. Do you think if they were alive today, they would find your usage acceptable? DO YOU THINK MLK WOULD FIND YOUR BEHAVIOUR ACCEPTABLE? I'm asking YOU why you think using the word Nigger/A is appropriate based on history and even up to today. My goodness. I pity the people who suffered and died for black people to be free in America. To be given the same liberties. And this is how "we" repay that sacrifice. By using the very same terminology that was used against "us" negatively. Even if you want to say that you're "taking the word back". At-least fucking do something! But you and I both know very well that blacks in America are some of the poorest and least educated. So much for that! What are you taking that word "back" and doing with it?

I think MLK would be proUd of me. I'm highly educated, have a decent job, married, child, and a homeowner. Saying nigga when I'm with buddies won't take that away from me.

[theignoramus]

Oh this is hilarious. So, I'm black. What the fuck does this even mean? If you want to call people niggers or niggas, FEEL FREE. I don't care! But don't sit here and ironically enough say that *every* black person finds that word endearing or acceptable. My parents aren't from NA and they raised us here. Yet I was subjected to that ridiculous crap for all of my early childhood. And to top it off, I met VERY few black people here in Canada who use that term apart from the deadbeat, empty brained gangster wannabe's. Yeah, slavery happened in America! Black people also owned slaves in America! Black people owned black people before America even existed! People have been owning people since day zero. Yet here we are, STILL dealing with the same shit nearly half a century later! If people want to move on. If the black people in America want to move on. Then they should fucking move on by going for education or you know, realizing that using dumb-ass words such as "nigga" does NOT endear you to anyone and only makes the average person(who is white in NA btw) think of you as nothing more than an idiot! It is not cool, it is not chic and it is not GOOD. It absolutely befuddles me that this pathetic excuse of "We're taking the word back" is all good and then someone else says "It's not even the same word!". Well which is it? Every-time you people use that word, all you're doing is bringing a surge of history to the present that people are trying to work past. How fucking long is that word going to be used for? At what point will you people finally "own" it? I have absolutely NO respect for people who use that word. That shit has been used against me way too many times in a negative context for me to even acknowledge it as nothing more than the voices of hate echoing through history. Shame on all of you who still use that word. And especially shame on all of you American blacks that use that word. Idiotic rap-stars should be the LAST people you look up too as role models. Homosexuals don't go around calling themselves faggots or dikes. Rape victims don't go around call themselves sluts. Only black people go around calling each other NiggERS. Absolutely disgusting filth.

Im not unfamiliar with the phenomenon of Carribeans and African blacks having seriously prejudiced attitudes about black Americans. It's a well documented problem and the venom in your post tells me you definitely have a problem with the brothers south of the border.

Why can't you people just live your lives without saying either word?!

I have no burning desire to cry out "nigga". I already said that earlier, I pretty much use it exclusively when quoting a rhyme or a line of dialogue.

But..."you people" "absolutely disgusting filth?" woah.
You honestly sound like the black pundits FoxNews brings on to say the kind of things a non-blacks cant say without exposing themselves as bigots.

[Riggs]

Im not unfamiliar with the phenomenon of Carribeans and African blacks having seriously prejudiced attitudes about black Americans. It's a well documented problem and the venom in your post tells me you definitely have a problem with the brothers south of the border. I have no burning desire to cry out "nigga". I already said that earlier, I pretty much use it exclusively when quoting a rhyme or a line of dialogue. But..."you people" "absolutely disgusting filth?" woah. You honestly sound like the black pundits FoxNews brings on to say the kind of things a non-blacks cant say without exposing themselves as bigots.

Wow uncalled for man. Especially with your post history.