[daviyoung]

Dubstep itself is like an entire microspectrum contained within the overall musical spectrum that Dubstep lies between Trance, Drum & Bass, and whatever other closely-related musical neighbours you want to sandwich it between. There are so many different variations and styles. There's the more subdued roots stuff, there's the very aggressive stuff (Skrillex & Co.), the stuff that draws exclusively from certain genres or sampling styles (my favourite is actual dub reggae dubstep), and so forth.

Rubbish. Dubstep is one-note pop trash that's used by every pop producer that I have to listen to on that commerical radio station I have to listen to. It's like the McDonalds of music, it's like the new keytar. It's got no identity, no style. It just serves to infect my other favourite genres and artists, like Britney Spears, with its horrible, lazy bombast.

[HiResDes]

Just a note, when I click on your link, I get neogaf.net, and I'm not logged in. Is this the real site, or what?

Has anyone else seen TheStage.neogaf.com or whatever?

[John Rabbit]

RA, Pitchfork, and users on Last.fm seem to think so, but fair enough...Maybe I don't like dubstep at all, lol. Is any of this dubstep: Desolate Kuedo Hyetal Sepalcure Swarms Silkie Shackleton Pursuit Grooves Martyn Kode9 & The Spaceape Zomby EMIKA Addison Groove Robot Koch

hey congrats man you like post-dubstep a whole lot.

some of that is dubstep.
some of it is good old fashoined trip-hop.
some of it defies classification (which usually gets labeled post-dubstep because its all bassy).

congrats on your great taste too.

[Pepto]

RA, Pitchfork, and users on Last.fm seem to think so, but fair enough...Maybe I don't like dubstep at all, lol.

Hint: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakbeat_hardcore. The morons from RA, Pitchfork and Last.fm would probably say that this is dubstep if it was by skrillex and it was released today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow8a1ndkvqI

Is any of this dubstep:

Some of it is very clearly.

[EYEL1NER]

Sad part is? I'm only a few years older than he.

I'm not too much older, 25. But I still remember what I was like at 18 and in high school. I was a dickhead.
I thought and acted like I was the smartest goddamn man in the world about music, games, politics, religion, whatever.

Glad I've grown up a little bit since then. At least I think I have. I'm no longer acting like my opinion on music is the only right opinion in the world, claiming loudly that certain politicians are the devil, an drawing full page-size pictures of Jesus giving women abortions or rising from the dead as a zombie to show to my religious classmates. When I wasn't getting kicked out for smoking a cigarette in the middle of a classroom because I thought I had the right too.


smh...
I was pretty dumb back then.
But feeling and thinking you are superior to everyone does make you feel kinda good for a while.

[HiResDes]

Hint: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakbeat_hardcore. The morons from RA, Pitchfork and Last.fm would probably say that this is dubstep if it was by skrillex and it was released today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow8a1ndkvqI Some of it is very clearly.

It was a genuine question, lol.

[Jtwo]

congrats on your great taste too.

Yeah I'm having a ball with that post. Hyetal is great.

[Antiwhippy]

I cant use youtube at work but Silkie, Shackleton, Kode 9 and Zomby (but not everything he does) are atleast. Try VIVEK, Mala, Tuunidge, Loefah, Benga (old stuff), Skream and Didgital mystikz

Isn't sepalcure and emika usually considered dubstep?

[John Rabbit]

Hint: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakbeat_hardcore. The morons from RA, Pitchfork and Last.fm would probably say that this is dubstep if it was by skrillex and it was released today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow8a1ndkvqI

oh my god are we going to start posting acid house and jungle?

stakker - humanoid
ltj bukem - demon's theme

[abusori]

Has anyone else seen TheStage.neogaf.com or whatever?

I saw that a couple of days ago too.
Maybe it's just some banned people trying to steal an account or something.

[soultron]

Rubbish. Dubstep is one-note pop trash that's used by every pop producer that I have to listen to on that commerical radio station I have to listen to. It's like the McDonalds of music, it's like the new keytar. It's got no identity, no style. It just serves to infect my other favourite genres and artists, like Britney Spears, with its horrible, lazy bombast.

[Sh1ner]

I love DnB (although I know nothing more of the genre aside from subscribing to Ultra and UKF DnB on YT) so this was an awesome recommendation. Thanks!

I am a massive Liquid DnB fan. My most listened tracks of each genre so far are:
Fred V - Paradise for Liquid DnB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daq_GV7Zg1Q

For drum and bass I started with these guys:
Echo Inada - Story is ending now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnIHb9ok4q4
B Complex - beautiful lies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzqw_Dqa0SU

You may also want to check out Vandera on soundcloud and youtube and also Veela (she is a vocalist only though I think)


I also Follow 17tumbaMusic For general drum and bass.
They had previous channel that had excellent music but it got taken down for copyright infringment unfortunately.

[soultron]

I also have 17tumba, just recently subscribed to them. Thanks again for the reccs.

[MarkMclovin]

BASS CANNON!

[cacophony]

i just want to post this song i found recently
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIo14jKF9uI

2:30 :)

[abusori]

BASS CANNON!

I love google images.
Yes, that's probably not a bass, I don't know shit about fish

[Fusebox]

Sorry, but this thread sucks the big one. There will always be musical genres that you don't like, DEAL WITH IT.

[AcridMeat]

I am a massive Liquid DnB fan. My most listened tracks of each genre so far are: Fred V - Paradise for Liquid DnB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daq_GV7Zg1Q

Such an amazing song, one of my recent favorites as well. Fred V & Grafix's episode on the UKF podcast is divine.

Also get really pumped up by this Camo & Krooked - Watch It Burn.

[teruterubozu]

I love psytrance and psybient, but I never liked Infected Mushroom. They always sounded "dub-steppy" even when they first started. I just don't like their faux aggression.

[AlexSmash]

That OT title really is stupid.

Its not a genres fault when its overused by artists that sell out for some musical trend.

Oh and SBTRKT (The album) isnt that good.

[LowKeyedUp]

Whenever I listen to dubstep it just seems overly indulgent. I heard a recording of a live Skrillex performance and when ever "it" would "drop" it sounded like people were being murdered due to the audience reaction. Is "drop-lust" a thing?

[kinoki]

Not having listened or really understood what dubstep was until this thread I'll say this: I doubt dubstep is the last nail. Music will persist. But perhaps I'm wrong and in 20 years people will ask "Daddy, what was this thing called music when you were young?".

And as this is my first real exposure to dubstep I'll say this: I have a hard time calling this a subgenre, it's mostly just like everything else.

[Kloteweer]

I can't stop listening to this track:

Kill It Fuck It by Tha Trickaz ft. Non Genetic

Does this mean I have terrible taste, OP?

[Woody Invincible]

Hmm, I was sure that music in America had been dead for quite some time.

[LowKeyedUp]

Also music won't officially die until it is pried from the cold dead hands of Scandinavian musicians, the stewards of Real Music.

[aku:jiki]

Zomby's Where Were U in 92' showcases just how fun dubstep can be

I'm not well-versed in electronic music, so can someone help me out with how this song is dubstep? I'm hearing 90's house piano, 90's house voice samples and a breakbeat. Where's the dubstep aspect? Not being an ass, honestly want to know.

Edit: Oh shit, this thread grew by like 100 posts while I was just eating breakfast with this post open? Nevermind then!

[Blunt]

Fuck dubstep. Sounds like a robot jerking off with an angle grinder in it's hand and a dial-up modem up it's arse.


OH SHIT IT'S HAPPENING JUST LIKE MY PARENTS SAID I HATE THE MUSIC THAT YOUNG PEOPLE OF TODAY LIKE

Get the fuck off my lawn, punks.

[SouthernDragon]

I'd like to think that music, as a whole, is stronger than dubstep "killing" it.

[Antiwhippy]

I'm not well-versed in electronic music, so can someone help me out with how this song is dubstep? I'm hearing 90's house piano, 90's house voice samples and a breakbeat. Where's the dubstep aspect? Not being an ass, honestly want to know.

Where were U in 92 is not really dubstep as much as it is a tribute to 90s trance/electronic. The use of 2-step from garage and a sort of dark atmosphere, which you can hear more in his album Dedication, is more what people were referring to as dubstep.

[Alucrid]

you're so late to the i hate dubstep party that people at the i hate dubstep party no longer care to muster up the energy to hate dubstep

[aku:jiki]

Where were U in 92 is not really dubstep as much as it is a tribute to 90s trance/electronic. The use of 2-step from garage and a sort of dark atmosphere, which you can hear more in his album Dedication, is more what people were referring to as dubstep.

But now I have to ask you how it's trance? To me it sounds very much like late 80's/early 90's pop house, but with a dubby atmosphere and a breakbeat.

you're so late to the i hate dubstep party that people at the i hate dubstep party no longer care to muster up the energy to hate dubstep

It's amazing how long this thread is and how many of these comments it contains, yet none of you actually read the OP. The dude loves dubstep, or at least used to. He's saying it's lame that it's a fad and a lot of weak dubstep is being made because of it and artists that have more talent doing other things are wasting their time doing shitty dubstep.

[paskowitz]

I just listened to every song posted in this thread in order to attempt to better appreciate this dubstep thing... I now hate it more than ever. It is quite possibly the worst ungulation (sp?) of noise I have ever heard. How people enjoy this really is beyond my ability to reason.

[daviyoung]

I just listened to every song posted in this thread in order to attempt to better appreciate this dubstep thing... I now hate it more than ever. It is quite possibly the worst ungulation (sp?) of noise I have ever heard.

I don't think you did.

[tarius1210]

This. The OP is just yelling at clouds.

Double period.

[Snkfanatic]

A friend gave me the SBTRKT album and I loved it but I had a feeling while listening to it it was a little....dubsteppy

[Antiwhippy]

But now I have to ask you how it's trance? To me it sounds very much like late 80's/early 90's pop house, but with a dubby atmosphere and a breakbeat.

Are you talking about the song specifically or the entire album? It takes alot of influence from a whole range of electronic music from around that period. The track specifically though doesn't really remind me of house pop, though I'm not really that familiar with electronic music from '92 because I was born at '92. Could you point me to a reference? It's definitely not really a dubstep album.

[Gattsu25]

I just listened to every song posted in this thread in order to attempt to better appreciate this dubstep thing... I now hate it more than ever. It is quite possibly the worst ungulation (sp?) of noise I have ever heard. How people enjoy this really is beyond my ability to reason.

I feel the same way about most country music

[SuperAndroid17]

Hes right on one thing , Infected Mushroom


Biggest sellouts ever, fuck them. Mainstream is shit.

[Alucrid]

But now I have to ask you how it's trance? To me it sounds very much like late 80's/early 90's pop house, but with a dubby atmosphere and a breakbeat. It's amazing how long this thread is and how many of these comments it contains, yet none of you actually read the OP. The dude loves dubstep, or at least used to. He's saying it's lame that it's a fad and a lot of weak dubstep is being made because of it and artists that have more talent doing other things are wasting their time doing shitty dubstep.

I'm not talking about the ~2000s shit, I'm talking about whatever has been coming out the past 2-3 years or so. I don't really care, good dubstep artists are still making good dubstep music. OP is overreacting. I would hesitate to classify Sbtrkt, Rustie and James Blake as 'dubstep.'

[Fusebox]

I It is quite possibly the worst ungulation (sp?) of noise I have ever heard. How people enjoy this really is beyond my ability to reason.

What sort of music do you listen to?

[Snkfanatic]

Speaking of SBTRKT, any other albums anyone would recommend if I liked his a lot?

[Antiwhippy]

Speaking of SBTRKT, any other albums anyone would recommend if I liked his a lot?

Maybe fin by John Talabot?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyBJg5MiEU

[Alucrid]

Speaking of SBTRKT, any other albums anyone would recommend if I liked his a lot?

you might like

Fantastic Mr Fox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esHxq1rcxwE
Disclosure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibvS-2oTBa4
Sepalcure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA91Hu0lkF8
Machinedrum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82t_wZlV_3k
XXXY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2d_us7Y2yw

[EYEL1NER]

I just listened to every song posted in this thread in order to attempt to better appreciate this dubstep thing... I now hate it more than ever. It is quite possibly the worst ungulation (sp?) of noise I have ever heard. How people enjoy this really is beyond my ability to reason.

If something as simple as why someone likes a genre of music is beyond your ability to reason then I don't know how you are able to function in the world.
You've got some pretty terrible reasoning skills.

[Galang]

Wow the opening statement is really rubbing me the wrong way. Saying SBTRKT is "easily" the best out of dubstep is pretty ignorant as there's so much beautiful and unique dubstep out there. I don't know how anyone can choose one album out of a genre and say its monstrously better than the others. I think his debut album is good, but you are doing him a disservice by saying that.

I am really glad at the great links people posted so far, but the argument about if it's dubstep or not isn't really helping against his point. Most those links at least have obvious dubstep influences, I don't believe it really needs to result in arguments. They do well to show why dubstep is not killing music.

I don't believe dubstep is killing music. There are people who hear it and create soulless imitations, but the same happens with every genre really...

[teruterubozu]

I'm more annoyed by the name. "Dubstep" sounds like people prancing about in a choreographed line dance.

[Snkfanatic]

Maybe fin by John Talabot? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyBJg5MiEU

you might like Fantastic Mr Fox http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esHxq1rcxwE Disclosure http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibvS-2oTBa4 Sepalcure http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA91Hu0lkF8 Machinedrum http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82t_wZlV_3k XXXY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2d_us7Y2yw

Thanks! I will check these out for sure.

[shuri]

Dubstep is alright, but the real enemy is WITCH HOUSE!

[Pctx]

To be fair to Dubstep, I had been listening to it for a while without realizing it. Inception?

[Utako]

What do intelligent, depressed teenagers listen to?

I'd probably like that more than dubstep, which I expect them to despise, just like I despised the mainstream rap and hip-hop stuff as a teen.