[starchild excalibur]

It's amazing how many of these "artists" are incapable of playing a real musical instrument.

Yes, and rap isn't real music because it's just words.

[John Rabbit]

This. I bought his album when it first dropped and I would never consider it dupstep.

impossible, SBTRKT has no drops.

[Conciliator]

theres dubstep elitists now?

Dubstep elitism is so 2010.

There's good dubstep and bad dubstep. The UK Bass scene in general is interesting, competitive, constantly evolving and often exciting. Yes, I too tire of the incessant wobbling. But dubstep's not killing music. It's not even killing electronic dance music. Hell, it's not even killing UK Bass. Some of its elements have just been taken to far and lost their subtlety and novelty.

EDIT: For some of you guys, dubstep long predates video games trailers, and the place where dubstep ends and other UK Bass scene subgenres like garage, grime, 2-step, etc. begin is not clear. It is a much wider variety of music than game trailers and shitty youtube remixes, and artists like James Blake and SBTRKT are part of that scene. In fact, James Blake considers himself dubstep:

The things that drew me to dubstep in the first place weren't necessarily the kind of testosterone-driven environments that you got from say, late jungle or some of the drum 'n' bass stuff that was happening after that. I think the dubstep that has come over to the US, and certain producers — who I can't even be bothered naming — have definitely hit upon a sort of frat-boy market where there's this macho-ism being reflected in the sounds and the way the music makes you feel. And to me, that is a million miles away from where dubstep started. It's a million miles away from the ethos of it. It's been influenced so much by electro and rave, into who can make the dirtiest, filthiest bass sound, almost like a pissing competition, and that's not really necessary. And I just think that largely that is not going to appeal to women. I find that whole side of things to be pretty frustrating, because that is a direct misrepresentation of the sound as far as I'm concerned.

EDIT: If you guys want, you could make up a new name for the kind of dubstep that you hate and stick it all together, so you wouldn't have to deal with the subtleties of a community that's changing weekly and it would be more convenient to whine about it. That sounds pretty cool.

[StaffordZ]

"Dubstep, circa 2006. The World's coolest sound, the one you were proud to tell your friends the moment you discovered the latest Hyperdub release, the one you forced your best friend to listen to Burial or the Skull Disco compilations, the one you think the world will be better because of it... and so on. Dubstep, circa 2012. The one you rather tell your friends you listen to a dark melange of Bass Music, Techno, Dub and House. In fact you still listen to the music you were digging in 2006, the only difference is that now the word Dubstep is a dirty word...."

Jesus Christ. This. :(

[Extollere]

Clubroot, Burial and Four Tet say no.

I love you so much... and II - MMX is pretty much a perfect dubstep/low-tempo album if there ever was one.

Also agree on SBTRKT. Though I really wouldn't consider it dubstep. Idunno

[Kad5]

I love dubstep as much as the next guy. I'm a huge fan of Burial and the hyper dub label.

But I don't think any EDM song in existence can compare to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyoDbX1EkPQ

[DiscoJer]

I love dubstep as much as the next guy. I'm a huge fan of Burial and the hyper dub label. But I don't think any EDM song in existence can compare to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyoDbX1EkPQ

That's not even the best New Order song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udn51qJwDvY

Okay, almost not even a New Order song, since it's basically Pump Panel's song Ego Acid with some bits from Confusion.

[Kozak]

Dubstep is pretty good when I'm peaking off my nut

I imagine its the same for others too.

[dj_h]

If anything, I think it's hit radio that is killing music. The whole concept of hit radio blows, when you hear the same god damn song for the 20th time in an hour. At least dubstep is something new, but the gimmick of it will fade in time just like everything else.

[SapientWolf]

Apropos nothing, but Never Never (feat. Sampha) on the Sbtrkt album is god tier.

[Subprime]

Some music is good and some music is bad, depending on the listener. Genres and classifications need to stop.

I know cultural relativism and all that horseshit, but no, some music is just fucking terrible.

[Tim the Wiz]

... Slowly?

[DonasaurusRex]

we're just getting old , the younger generation has to do their thing.

[joelseph]

we're just getting old , the younger generation has to do their thing.

Gaf is the younger generation.

[Vlightray]

Reading this thread while listening to Dubstep is epic thanks for all the Different song recommendations guys. FUCK the HATERS.

[Holden]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI

Seriously people who doesn't like something and shit on it all over forums really need to go fuck themself

[samus i am]

I just heard Killin' it by Krewella. What do you elitists think of it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaQgHZnAnyk

[HiResDes]

Music Killer

[Sai-kun]

Music Killer

Nice. Will check it out later. Thanks.

p.s. not related to the link but I love Katy B to death. She is so great <3 Katy on a Mission and Perfect Stranger are my jams 4 lyfe

[joelseph]

I just heard Killin' it by Krewella. What do you elitists think of it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaQgHZnAnyk

The perfect example. Complete garbage.

[thezerofire]

Apropos nothing, but Never Never (feat. Sampha) on the Sbtrkt album is god tier.

damn straight

[synt4x]

dubstep is not killing music. But today's pop music is giving young people a terrible taste in music. I think that's pretty much fact, right?

:P

[dab0ne]

Dubstep is killing my ears. Giving it the title of "Music" is absurd.

[Johnlenham]

I just heard Killin' it by Krewella. What do you elitists think of it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaQgHZnAnyk

That is bad (to me)

Ill offer up this but to behonest I shouldnt.
Listening to it on my laptop or even with speakers does not do it justice. Heard it live and good god it is something else when the bass can physically shake you to your core.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltDsjKFmdUA
also this has to be my favorite dubstep song ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky5Mt...eature=related

but like ive said its not really stuff that you can fully appreciate without a system to back it up.

[Liquidsnake]

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[Mattlikewhoa]

I don't even know where to begin here...

*Goes back to spinning some dubstep*

[les papillons sexuels]

I like how people think that autotune is something new. It's been used in the music industry since the early 70's if not earlier. Do you feel like we do/talk box, or all that stuff by frampton is no different then autotune, or what autotune does.

It wasn't until more recently that we've used autotune outside of the recording studio and as an actual tool in the creation of music. And yes it's music, just like electronica is music. It doesn't matter if the instrument is analog or digital, or how the sounds get produced, music comes in the composition and exploration of audio.

IMO, music is not the theft of a sample and reading poetry or words overtop of it.

[gdt]

Picked up some awesome stuff from this thread.

SBTRKT
Rustie

Thats about it. Another other major recentish artists?

Already way into Scuba/Deadmau5/Knife Party.

I really prefer the album/ep format though.

[les papillons sexuels]

Picked up some awesome stuff from this thread. SBTRKT Rustie Thats about it. Another other major recentish artists? Already way into Scuba/Deadmau5/Knife Party. I really prefer the album/ep format though.

I've always liked zomboy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBzsuiRktPQ

and flux pavilion has some decent stuff.

some more chill stuff:
pretty lights
gramatik

[Man-is-Obsolete]

Picked up some awesome stuff from this thread. SBTRKT Rustie Thats about it. Another other major recentish artists? Already way into Scuba/Deadmau5/Knife Party. I really prefer the album/ep format though.

If you like Rustie check his label mate:

Hudson Mohawke - Satin Panther

Also look into:

Starkey (Space Traitor Vol 2 and Open the Pod Bay Doors are the most recent and are fantastic)

Rusko - Songs (most recent album)

Skream - Skreamizm

Benga - Diary of an Afro Warrior

Alex Clare - Lateness of the Hour (if you like vocals)

Let me know what ya think.

[Poimandres]

This is a formal plea to musicians to stop degrading their artistic product by infusing overplayed gimmickry in a genre that's just about exhausted all attainable options for creative exploration. That's not to say there isn't bleeding edge dubstep music out there. However, even these isolated examples are musical mosaics more than anything. The three finest dubstep albums from last year illustrate this point nicely. SBTRKT's self-titled debut, easily THE best dubstep album ever made, traces its roots to UK Funky and microhouse more than anything else. Rustie divests himself from the constraints of dubstep by turning the whole "wub-wub" aesthetic on its head. James Blake's music is so wholly disparate from the dubstep world that his music has earned the unbelievably suitable moniker of "neo-soul." The problem is that the very genre of dubstep has degenerated to a parody of itself. Mainstream dubstep is absolute trash, exploiting the fundamental fixtures of the genre to corny and humiliating extremes. Worse still, it's infiltrating perfectly capable standalone genres to the point where I believe the genre is inimical to good music. The last straw for me is the abominable new Infected Mushroom album. What was once the vanguard of psytrance music is now another victim of selling out in the worst fashion possible.This shit needs to stop.

Okay... Infected Mushroom deviated from psytrance back in 2004 with Converting Vegetarians. They've barely been psytrance for a long time. I was one of the people who complained when psytrance basically took over the doof/outdoor dance music scene for many years... and now it is dubsteps turn as the flavour of the week. It will be everywhere for a few years, then something else will get popular and whatever genre that is will be over exposed.

Here's the point: dubstep isn't "killing music". It's just a trend that is currently popular that will pass like all trends. Chances are people complained that your favourite genre (whatever it happens to be) was "killing music" at some stage as well!

[hateradio]

I just heard Killin' it by Krewella. What do you elitists think of it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaQgHZnAnyk

Wow.

I've always liked zomboy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBzsuiRktPQ

I didn't know The Chipmunks were back.

That is bad (to me) Ill offer up this but to behonest I shouldnt. Listening to it on my laptop or even with speakers does not do it justice. Heard it live and good god it is something else when the bass can physically shake you to your core. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltDsjKFmdUA

That's some really great bass.

[thezerofire]

Mt Eden and Zeds Dead are pretty good, Flux Pavilion as previously mentioned. AraabMUZIK does dubstep sometimes but that's not really how his album is. His album is great though.

[RoH]

Interesting thread, I found a few good tracks from SBTRKT, but James Blake--- every track pulled me in, instant album purchase.

Thanks GAF

[joelseph]

Electronic dance music recommendations? There should be an official thread for that. We could even put artists like SBTRKT and James Blake in it!

[Gurpreet_K]

Clubroot, Burial and Four Tet say no.

PREACH!

[teruterubozu]

Electronic dance music recommendations? There should be an official thread for that. We could even put artists like SBTRKT and James Blake in it!

I wish that thread had more psybient/psytrance. Might have to make a separate OT myself.

[Dicer]

As someone who likes "electronic" music all the way from Kraftwerk right on up....Dub is a very hard style to get into, there are exceptions but in general I just cant get into it. Maybe It's cause I'm getting old or I'm not high as fuck...but idk most of it is just awful.


Bassnectar is really good....if someone wants another name to look into

[Extollere]

Music is already dead. It was killed by autotune.

That's hilarious. There is so much good music out right now. And so many incredible things have been released in the past 5 years alone. Whatever you want, indie, acoustic, ambient, classical, instrumental, throw-backs, soundtracks, or whatever it is that you like... There is so much awesome shit that I don't even have time to listen to it all. Music is far from dead. You just need to look harder. :) Turning on the radio doesn't count.

[Sai-kun]

Mt Eden and Zeds Dead are pretty good, Flux Pavilion as previously mentioned. AraabMUZIK does dubstep sometimes but that's not really how his album is. His album is great though.

Mt. Eden's remix of Still Alive (the Mirror's Edge theme) is super fantastic. Still a shame they didn't play it at Coachella, but I still love the song, obviously. It's a great take on it.

[elcapitan]

Dubstep is killing dubstep. It's appropriate for a certain time and place, but a dubstep remix of anything mostly should never have been made.

[Mr Solo Dolo]

Mt Eden can never be forgiven for this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VZG1ANKeGs

Why even attempt it, the original can never be topped.

[John Rabbit]

If you like Rustie check his label mate: Hudson Mohawke - Satin Panther Also look into: Starkey (Space Traitor Vol 2 and Open the Pod Bay Doors are the most recent and are fantastic) Rusko - Songs (most recent album) Skream - Skreamizm Benga - Diary of an Afro Warrior Alex Clare - Lateness of the Hour (if you like vocals) Let me know what ya think.

add mux mool and sinjin hawke to that list.

[Man-is-Obsolete]

add mux mool and sinjin hawke to that list.

Heard a sinjin hawke song in a mix by Baauer and loved it. It's the second song.

http://www.liveforthefunk.com/2012/0...-mix-for-lftf/

Will definitely check out mux mool.

Ps the new azaelia banks song Jumanji was produced in part by Hudson Mohawke.

Pss yea we need an EDM rec thread.

[that1dude24]

i usually find dubstep to be incredibly irritating. there are a few tunes i like that might fall under the label, but it has a strangely high amount of utter garbage.

thats just my experience, obviously. it's more than a little ridiculous to argue it's "killing" music though.

[Man-is-Obsolete]

i usually find dubstep to be incredibly irritating. there are a few tunes i like that might fall under the label, but it has a strangely high amount of utter garbage. thats just my experience, obviously. it's more than a little ridiculous to argue it's "killing" music though.

The problem with genres is that it is too easy to label one side of the genre as a representation of the whole. For instance most people would be surprised to know that Rustie, James Blake, and SBTRKT are mostly considered "dubstep" artist. This problem happens in other genres within a genre as well. Metal is a sub genre of rock, but does that mean Death metal represents all metal? No, just like Swedish Melodic Death Metal doesn't represent all of Death Metal.

Hence Genres are kinda dumb and you should just listen to whatever you like, genres be damned. Because it would be a shame to dismiss something just because the only thing you know about it is the genre someone told you it belongs in.

[John Rabbit]

Heard a sinjin hawke song in a mix by Baauer and loved it. It's the second song. http://www.liveforthefunk.com/2012/0...-mix-for-lftf/ Will definitely check out mux mool. Ps the new azaelia banks song Jumanji was produced in part by Hudson Mohawke. Pss yea we need an EDM rec thread.

yeah crystal dust is definitely a JAM.

[frankie_baby]

its just awful

[Man-is-Obsolete]

Also don't know if it has been mentioned but Rustie's Essential Mix on BBC Radio 1 is a great listen. Tons of new unreleased tracks from not just Rustie.

http://soundcloud.com/rustie/essential-mix-bbc-radio-1

There is a song in there called Billboard by S-Type, and I need the full version ASAP, here it is ripped from the mix.

http://youtu.be/LayGds3F58U

[FromTheFuture]

Enter thread about dubstep

No one actually knows what dubstep is