[jstevenson]

Would rather off myself than play a game like that for an hour, and I do mean any game like that, but can't blame developers for doing this on the side to earn some money.

You haven't even tried it yet or seen anything besides four screens! It's an adventure RPG!

Oh, so this is what happened to R3...

Yeah, nothing to do with the R3 team at all.

[MrPliskin]

Hmm? I own a Move, loved Killzone and Resistance with it. I don't like facebook games because i want a proper full blown game experience with interesting story etc. Not because "I LIKE REAL GAMES WITH GUNS" Insomniac are capable of so much better (as proved with Ratchet and Clank, which is fantastic).

"Capable of so much better"

May as well say "I like guns" to me. You're basically writing it off with very little info on hand. Literally this is a VERY small team, less than a dozen I believe. You think that's putting a dent in their staff of over 200+?

Some of you need a SERIOUS reality check.

[Fersis]

Hey JS how big is the IG Click team?

[Corto]

Hmm? I own a Move, loved Killzone and Resistance with it. I don't like facebook games because i want a proper full blown game experience with interesting story etc. Not because "I LIKE REAL GAMES WITH GUNS" Insomniac are capable of so much better (as proved with Ratchet and Clank, which is fantastic).

We'll get that with Overstrike and Insomniac will keep creating those kinds of games. But as Epic did with Infinite Blade and Fortnite, Insomniac is trying to reach new audiences.

"Hey this Facebook game is cool! Who are these Insomniacs guys? Hmmmm Overstrike hey? Let's check that out then."

[MrPliskin]

Hey JS how big is the IG Click team?

Last I heard (months back) it was somewhere around a dozen or something? I just remover it being very small. Would also like to know, JS.

[Carbonox_Ratchet]

I don't see any problem with Insomniac assigning a few people to do a Facebook game, something that will be accessible to hundreds of millions of people all over the world. It has no bearing on the development of console titles.

I have no desire to ever play it though because I don't use Facebook for gaming at all, nor do I have the desire to ever do so.

[Littlegator]

MrPliskin, why don't you drop a solid 30 hours into this in the first week or two? I mean, we don't know enough to know if the game is good or bad yet!

Oh, wait, the screenshots + Facebook profit scheme already show us that it's going to be shit.

[jstevenson]

Hey JS how big is the IG Click team?

Firstly, we don't call them Click anymore. A lot has changed in the industry since last year, as well as in our studio. After some discussion, we concluded that every game we make – regardless of the platform and audience it’s intended for – should be under the Insomniac Games umbrella.

And I think its around 15 folks now +/- support from some other folks, art, community, network etc

[Combichristoffersen]

MrPliskin, why don't you drop a solid 30 hours into this in the first week or two? I mean, we don't know enough to know if the game is good or bad yet! Oh, wait, the screenshots + Facebook profit scheme already show us that it's going to be shit.

Eh. Going by the art style and the look of the game, it looks like it could be fun, and good for what it is. I still won't play it though, as I don't want to have games and unnecessary apps cluttering up my Facebook feed/profile.

[Carl]

"Capable of so much better" May as well say "I like guns" to me. You're basically writing it off with very little info on hand. Literally this is a VERY small team, less than a dozen I believe. You think that's putting a dent in their staff of over 200+? Some of you need a SERIOUS reality check.

Seeing as i don't really like shooting games all that much, i don't see why i would write a game off for not having guns but okay.

It's a facebook game, it won't have a full engaging story, and it isn't Ratchet and Clank :P That's enough information to write it off for me

(Also, Overstrike looks terrible but that's something completely different)

[MrPliskin]

MrPliskin, why don't you drop a solid 30 hours into this in the first week or two? I mean, we don't know enough to know if the game is good or bad yet! Oh, wait, the screenshots + Facebook profit scheme already show us that it's going to be shit.

Really? Because I have tons of fun with the facebook PixelJunk Monsters, and Words with friends.

All you've really said is that you one of those gamers. The reactions here are knee jerk and embarrassing, and honestly make everyone look like petulant foot stomping children. It's cool to say this isn't your thing, but calling it shit or saying Insomniac is going down the crapper?

Fucking L.O.L.

[Winnie the Pimp]

like i said as well, for a facebook game this actually looks pretty decent! a shame i hate facebook and everything it stands for and i sometimes see the games my gf plays on there firsthand and apparently she picks the "good" ones, so yeah as a "hardcore" gamer that's been gaming nearly 25 years now i think i have acquired enough of a taste for the medium to know what is for me and what is not! FB games are just not the type of games i dig, others might, more power to them!

That said, i realise that this game seems to be some side thing and they aren't putting all their resources into this obviously.. they are still developing bigger consoles games simultaneously clearly, but even those i feel are no longer the type of experience that Insomniac once stood for! This FB game and the latest Ratchet (all 4 one) are indication enough that they seem to be headed into the direction of "social" gaming which does not interest a lot of older gamers that have been used to other, more personal types of experiences!

That is not to say that they might not make a comeback and deliver some awesome great single player game that will make us remember their glory days, if so then i will be the first to buy it!

just not feeling them right now is all...

[Corto]

Seeing as i don't really like shooting games all that much, i don't see why i would write a game off for not having guns but okay. It's a facebook game, it won't have a full engaging story, and it isn't Ratchet and Clank :P That's enough information to write it off for me (Also, Overstrike looks terrible but that's something completely different)

We only have a CG trailer to go by regarding Overstrike. What in it looks terrible for you? It has several of the hallmarks of Insomniac hinted in it. Humour, high action, great animation, and the awesome co-op we had on Resistance 2 seems to have a return in a full fledged game (I know I know wishful thinking). It was a Insomniac trailer through and through that gave me great expectations to the final game.

[Globox_82]

I wish them to sell millions of these(not sure how it works over at FB - don't have it) and make more money then ever. But this is not the Insomanic I grew up knowing since PS1 days. My second favorite developer for over a decade turned into something not for me.
Let's hope Overstrike is something special but I am not holding my breath.

[Fersis]

Firstly, we don't call them Click anymore. A lot has changed in the industry since last year, as well as in our studio. After some discussion, we concluded that every game we make – regardless of the platform and audience it’s intended for – should be under the Insomniac Games umbrella. And I think its around 15 folks now +/- support from some other folks, art, community, network etc

Thats pretty cool.

[Littlegator]

Really? Because I have tons of fun with the facebook PixelJunk Monsters, and Words with friends. All you've really said is that you one of those gamers. The reactions here are knee jerk and embarrassing, and honestly make everyone look like petulant foot stomping children. It's cool to say this isn't your thing, but calling it shit or saying Insomniac is going down the crapper? Fucking L.O.L.

No, actually look at the screenshots. It doesn't look fun.

You can tell by looking at it that it has low production values. I can already feel the shitty physics and controls. The isometric view looks forced and horrible.

Facebook games meant to make a profit aren't successful if they're fun, because Facebook games that are fun piss people off when you have to pay to continue playing. This is going to be an endless carrot-on-a-stick shit flash game.

[gdt]

Jesus you guys are getting bent out of shape. Games like this aren't really for us (not to say they can't be fun), no need to throw a fit over it. It's not like Insomniac is abandoning everything else.

Other people like a different kind of games. My gf won't play "real" games, but will play castleville all day long.

[jstevenson]

I wish them to sell millions of these(not sure how it works over at FB - don't have it) and make more money then ever. But this is not the Insomanic I grew up knowing since PS1 days. My second favorite developer for over a decade turned into something not for me. Let's hope Overstrike is something special but I am not holding my breath.

I don't get how this game, of all the games we've made since the PS1 era, doesn't sorta remind you of Spyro (maybe the most)?

But that's me.

I play games guys, this is a good game. I'm proud of what the team has accomplished, and I think if you give it a shot, you'll see there its lots to like.

But plenty more later today as press stuff hits and on the Full Moon Show tomorrow

[Carl]

We only have a CG trailer to go by regarding Overstrike. What in it looks terrible for you? It has several of the hallmarks of Insomniac hinted in it. Humour, high action, great animation, and the awesome co-op we had on Resistance 2 seems to have a return in a full fledged game (I know I know wishful thinking). It was a Insomniac trailer through and through that gave me great expectations to the final game.

A CG trailer is supposed to show what a game will be like though, surely? :P The humour didn't fit with me like a Ratchet and Clank game. And i don't like co-op games that much. In fact i don't think i've ever played a game all the way through with a real person. I get generally tired of someone else being there.

[MrPliskin]

Full Moon Show tomorrow

Finals week redeemed.

No, actually look at the screenshots. It doesn't look fun. You can tell by looking at it that it has low production values. I can already feel the shitty physics and controls. The isometric view looks forced and horrible. Facebook games meant to make a profit aren't successful if they're fun, because Facebook games that are fun piss people off when you have to pay to continue playing. This is going to be an endless carrot-on-a-stick shit flash game.

/ignorelist

[Fersis]

I don't get how this game, of all the games we've made since the PS1 era, doesn't sorta remind you of Spyro (maybe the most)? But that's me. I play games guys, this is a good game. I'm proud of what the team has accomplished, and I think if you give it a shot, you'll see there its lots to like. But plenty more later today as press stuff hits and on the Full Moon Show tomorrow

To be fair we only saw a couple of screenshots.... Hopefully well get some gameplay later today.

[Skidd]

I believe I have now seen the true meaning behind "NeoGaf". I guess Insomniac-related threads are good for bringing that out.

I'll just say wait and see, and actually play the game for Pope's sake.

[.la1n]

[Atruvius]

Art style looks really good. Really gives me Ratchet vibes. Would definitely play it if it weren't on facebook. I don't really use FB account so I don't want to spam my "friends". Maybe I should make a new account just for this. :P

Full Moon Show tomorrow

Hell yes! FMS is the first podcast I listened, got in at Tools of Destruction episodes to be more exact. Been waiting for new episodes for quite some time.

[Dali]

Good god people, can you get any higher on those horses? Hardcore gamers in a nutshell: "waggle!? OH NOES TEH HOOMANITY OF GAMING!?" "iPhone games?! NO THEY ARE NOT FUN AND DESTROYING GAMING!!!" "Facebook!? No way SOCIAL GAMING IS FOR GRANDMAS, I LIKE REAL GAMES, WITH GUNS!" You really don't paint a good picture...

Meh, I wouldn't attribute negative reactions solely to the fact that this is a "casual" Facebook game. It's a developer with a strong and dedicated following making a game their fanbase is incapable of getting excited about. You'd see the same reaction if it were a AAA mmorpg.

[-viper-]

If this is the direction that gaming is going to take then goodbye to gaming.

I like Spyro, Ratchet and even Resistance.

Howwever, if developers want to commit suicide by releasing pathetic Facebook titles, then they can be my guest.

[MrPliskin]

Meh, I wouldn't attribute negative reactions solely to the fact that this is a "casual" Facebook game. It's a developer with a strong and dedicated following making a game their fanbase is incapable of getting excited about. You'd see the same reaction if it were a AAA mmorpg.

*looks at post below yours*

You sure? :P

It just feels like a bunch of snobby gamers who are too "high brow" (laughing my ass off at this) to enjoy something as "feeble" as a Facebook game. This thread literally reads like most of these people feel this is "beneath" them.

[Derrick01]

Man you guys dove off the deep end on this quicker than I normally do. This is a pretty small project that doesn't seem to be interfering with their normal schedule or workforce. Relax people. You can kill yourselves if they go full ios/facebook/f2p.

[Twinduct]

Until Insomniac ONLY does social games, calm down. Hell it's like every game is supposed to be made for a single tier of people.

[TheBioLover]

This looks like..........not my type of game. I hope we get Overstrike info at E3.

[pakkit]

They're all legitimate complaints. I mean do you actually like seeing Insomniac waste talent like this?

They're not wasting talent, they're creating a Facebook game.

It's the same people that come into Nintendo threads and beg for the developers to stop making "kiddie" titles.

[HamPster PamPster]

Ha! Now you all know how I felt when they ditched Spyro for some ugly raccoon and a gun

feel the pain :lol

[Roxas]

Good god people, can you get any higher on those horses? Hardcore gamers in a nutshell: "waggle!? OH NOES TEH HOOMANITY OF GAMING!?" "iPhone games?! NO THEY ARE NOT FUN AND DESTROYING GAMING!!!" "Facebook!? No way SOCIAL GAMING IS FOR GRANDMAS, I LIKE REAL GAMES, WITH GUNS!" You really don't paint a good picture...

It's a team of like 6 people, and it's not a waste of talent. You "hardcore" gamers get dick hard over recycled Pokemon games generation after generation with little visual improvement, and you're not even willing to give this a shot? Embarrassing for "hardcore" gamers. They were this quiet between the release of Ratchet: AciT and A4O / R3 two years later. No difference.

"Capable of so much better" May as well say "I like guns" to me. You're basically writing it off with very little info on hand. Literally this is a VERY small team, less than a dozen I believe. You think that's putting a dent in their staff of over 200+? Some of you need a SERIOUS reality check.

Really? Because I have tons of fun with the facebook PixelJunk Monsters, and Words with friends. All you've really said is that you one of those gamers. The reactions here are knee jerk and embarrassing, and honestly make everyone look like petulant foot stomping children. It's cool to say this isn't your thing, but calling it shit or saying Insomniac is going down the crapper? Fucking L.O.L.

*looks at post below yours* You sure? :P It just feels like a bunch of snobby gamers who are too "high brow" (laughing my ass off at this) to enjoy something as "feeble" as a Facebook game. This thread literally reads like most of these people feel this is "beneath" them.

[MrPliskin]

Because I really dig NeoGAF, and Insomniac, so it's unsettling to see this forum basically behave like GameFAQs.

[TTP]

As an hardcore gamer, I couldn't care less of playing this game, but as an hardcore gamer I do hope this brings Insomniac enough money to make more hardcore games.

If that makes any sense.

[seventynine]

Not yet played a Facebook game, this will probably be my first.

Not really understanding the negativity in here. A developer diversifying their output is a positive in my book.

[Carl]

Because I really dig NeoGAF, and Insomniac, so it's unsettling to see this forum basically behave like GameFAQs.

I really like both too, only game they have made that i don't own is Disruptor.

This still doesn't interest me, though.

[RockmanWhore]

Actually, I think it would be a great idea for more big studios like Insomniac to make some smaller games like that betwenn their usuaul big AAA games. It would be a nice way to let their people work on something else than another sequel of their big selling franchise. It must be annoying to work on Ratchet after 7 or 8 episodes for exemple. It would be a way to cash in some money if their big game gets delayed, to try new idea that could be implemented in their next AAA games, etc...

[injurai]

Insomniac forced to make FB games for EA. I am about to fucking break something. Who do I call to make people disappear?

Because I really dig NeoGAF, and Insomniac, so it's unsettling to see this forum basically behave like GameFAQs.

Sometimes things like this cut deep, you can't explain that...

[SuperSonic1305]

I don't see any reason to spend time playing facebook games when I have infinitely better games to play on PC, console, and handheld. If you are stuck with a 20 year old computer and no consoles then by all means enjoy yourself with Farmville and the like.

[jstevenson]

Insomniac forced to make FB games for EA. I am about to fucking break something. Who do I call to make people disappear?

we weren't forced to do anything, we WANTED to. One of Insomniac's original founders is super passionate about this, go back and read his blogs on it. We made the FB game we would want to play (and I am playing it pretty heavily).

[Combichristoffersen]

Insomniac forced to make FB games for EA. I am about to fucking break something. Who do I call to make people disappear?

I have a hard time imagining EA forced Insomniac to make this game. Overstrike is published via the EA Partners program IIRC, so I really doubt that deal had any bearing on the decision to make this game.

Edit: I see jstevenson already replied. Hey, James, isn't it time for a new R&C game? Nudge nudge wink wink say no more say no more, eh?

[methane47]

Insomniac :(

[Erasus]

I have not really tried Facebook games. But this looks good!

[injurai]

we weren't forced to do anything, we WANTED to. One of Insomniac's original founders is super passionate about this, go back and read his blogs on it. We made the FB game we would want to play (and I am playing it pretty heavily).

Oh good, I just don't trust EA at all based on what seemingly always happens once companies partner with them. Not a big fan of FB as a platform but good luck to the whole team. I suppose they needs something to do as this generation begins closing up.

[Carl]

we weren't forced to do anything, we WANTED to. One of Insomniac's original founders is super passionate about this, go back and read his blogs on it. We made the FB game we would want to play (and I am playing it pretty heavily).

Does it include destroying facebook games? :P

[SykoTech]

I'm not interested in this game at all either, but it's not like Facebook games is all they'll be doing for now. No reason to hit the panic button yet.

Insomniac isn't turning into Rare or anything.

[jstevenson]

I have a hard time imagining EA forced Insomniac to make this game. Overstrike is published via the EA Partners program IIRC, so I really doubt that deal had any bearing on the decision to make this game. Edit: I see jstevenson already replied. Hey, James, isn't it time for a new R&C game? Nudge nudge wink wink say no more say no more, eh?

Outernauts is via EA Partners as well.

And c'mon, isn't the HD Collection enough for you guys right now :-P

[MrPliskin]

I really like both too, only game they have made that i don't own is Disruptor. This still doesn't interest me, though.

Interest is one thing, resentment and "doom and gloom" is another. There's a way to say "I don't have interest in these types of games" without sounding like a pretentious ass or a spoiled teenager. Most of the folks in the thread have not done that :P

I don't see any reason to spend time playing facebook games when I have infinitely better games to play on PC, console, and handheld. If you are stuck with a 20 year old computer and no consoles then by all means enjoy yourself with Farmville and the like.

2 things.

1) "Better" is 100% subjective. You're welcome.

2) If you think all Facebook games are like FarmVille, you're sorely mistaken.

[injurai]

Outernauts is via EA Partners as well. And c'mon, isn't the HD Collection enough for you guys right now :-P

I couldn't be more excited for anything than the HD Collection, it's release is just so far away for those in the states.