Aeana
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Colette is my least-favorite female character in a game.

I swear, every time I see a girl trip in a game, I want to smack her.
Neki
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Originally Posted by Khold: View Post
Except that 99% of everything between them leading up to that was terrible. I can't tell how serious you were with the post, though.
Dead serious, Collete is a terrible character, so her relationship doesn't matter. :P
Man God
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But its so adorable how she put a loony toons style hole in the wall!
Dark Schala
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Originally Posted by Aeana: View Post
Colette is my least-favorite female character in a game.

I swear, every time I see a girl trip in a game, I want to smack her.
But that's how she saves the world. Aren't her methods adorable?

God, Colette sucks.
Aeana
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(05-16-2012, 05:47 AM)

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Originally Posted by Dark Schala: View Post
But that's how she saves the world.
No joke, when Estelle trips early in Vesperia, I almost shut it off and returned the game.
Khold
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(05-16-2012, 05:48 AM)

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Originally Posted by Ultimoo: View Post
Dead serious, Collete is a terrible character, so her relationship doesn't matter. :P
It's a tales game, I had to ignore that to contribute the opinion. Gotta compromise the bad and the good...not as bad
Seda
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Originally Posted by Aeana: View Post
No joke, when Estelle trips early in Vesperia, I almost shut it off and returned the game.
I'm replaying through the game right now (just went through the crystal dungeon) and I don't remember this.

Only playing half attention to the scenes, though.
Sviatoslav
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Originally Posted by Aeana: View Post
Colette is my least-favorite female character in a game.

I swear, every time I see a girl trip in a game, I want to smack her.
Collete is still better than any female character in Star Ocean 4. Especially Lymle. Dear god she was heinous.
Seda
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Originally Posted by Aeana: View Post
No joke, when Estelle trips early in Vesperia, I almost shut it off and returned the game.
I'm replaying through the game right now (just went through the crystal dungeon) and I don't remember this.

Only playing half attention to the scenes, though.

(The only tripping I remember is Raven 'tripping' to give Yuri the prison cell key.)
kiryogi
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What is this, girls aren't allowed to be clumsy?!
Aeana
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(05-16-2012, 05:51 AM)

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Originally Posted by Seda: View Post
I'm replaying through the game right now (just went through the crystal dungeon) and I don't remember this.

Only playing half attention to the scenes, though.
It's very early when you're in the castle and Yuri first meets her.
Khold
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Originally Posted by Sviatoslav: View Post
Collete is still better than any female character in Star Ocean 4. Especially Lymle. Dear god she was heinous.
Reimi was forgettably average

That edges out Colette!
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Seda
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Originally Posted by Aeana: View Post
It's very early when you're in the castle and Yuri first meets her.
Oh right, and that's when she decides to change into her normal outfit.

Or I'm still remembering wrong.
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Originally Posted by Aeana: View Post
Yes, well, Tales will never have anything like that. Tales games will always have two characters who are afraid to say anything to each other and expects the other to be a mind reader. And when someone hints that one might have feelings for the other, one of them will go "WHAT!! DON'T BE RIDICULOUS/!!/" and hurt the other's feelings. This will repeat over and over and nothing will ever develop further because they're children.
They're all like that? I've only played the ones that hit the US.
Sviatoslav
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Originally Posted by Khold: View Post
Reimi was forgettably average

That edges out Collete!
But Lymle, Meracle and Welch are a trifecta of the most annoying characters in any medium.
Dark Schala
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Originally Posted by Aeana: View Post
No joke, when Estelle trips early in Vesperia, I almost shut it off and returned the game.
Ahahaha. Oh wow.

At least she's much better than Colette. But that isn't much of a feat.

Originally Posted by kiryogi:
What is this, girls aren't allowed to be clumsy?!
I, and many other girls, can be pretty clumsy, but Tales generally really pushes it into overkill territory.

Khold
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Originally Posted by Sviatoslav: View Post
But Lymle, Meracle and Welch are a trifecta of the most annoying characters in any medium.
Yes yes yes. I agree. But you forgot Faize Bacchus Edge scythe man and laser sword dude.

I cannot fathom a worse cast.

....Unless reimi was replaced with Marta.
Neki
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I'd say Sophie is the best female Tales character I've seen so far.
Aeana
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Originally Posted by Dark Schala: View Post
Ahahaha. Oh wow.

At least she's much better than Colette. But that isn't much of a feat.
Estelle turned out to be a pretty great character. She just didn't have a very good start. I'm glad I continued, of course, because Vesperia's cast is my favorite in the series by far.
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Originally Posted by kiryogi: View Post
What is this, girls aren't allowed to be clumsy?!
Not when your shtick is basically to be on full derp mode 24/7!
Sviatoslav
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Originally Posted by Khold: View Post
Yes yes yes. I agree. But you forgot Faize Bacchus Edge scythe man and laser sword dude.

I cannot fathom a worse cast.

....Unless reimi was replaced with Marta.
Oh I definitely agree but we were just talking about female characters. The game itself even knew it was bad because when you skip the cutscenes it gives you a summary of what happened.
Man God
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I love Colette. Yes I know she is a total derp, but she's lovable all the same.

Looks like the CDF is asleep tonight.
Khold
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Originally Posted by Sviatoslav: View Post
Oh I definitely agree but we were just talking about female characters. The game itself even knew it was bad because when you skip the cutscenes it gives you a summary of what happened.
Yeah, I was just extending on the idea of how terrible the cast was. But I guess that's not really a revelation to anyone here.
klee123
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Probably one of the reasons why I disliked Symphonia. Colette was comparable to the female characters in SO4.
Why would you do that?
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Originally Posted by Ultimoo: View Post
I'd say I liked Emil and Marta's better, because they actually did stuff. Like kiss. my god, how hard is it to kiss someone?
Asbel and Cheria kissed.

Well... in a play... but it counted to Cheria!
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(05-16-2012, 06:18 AM)

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Ahh, Colette....

The only character I absolutely hated in Symphonia. I really do dislike most characters that are clumsy 24/7.
Seda
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(05-16-2012, 06:23 AM)

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I didn't think Colette was a good character at all, but I didn't hate her.

Then again, it takes A LOT for me to get 'fed up' with pretty much anything.
Khold
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Originally Posted by Seda: View Post
I didn't think Colette was a good character at all, but I didn't hate her.

Then again, it takes A LOT for me to get 'fed up' with pretty much anything.
I will attest to this being true.

I mean, you did put 200 hours into SO4
Dark Schala
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(05-16-2012, 06:28 AM)

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Originally Posted by Aeana: View Post
Estelle turned out to be a pretty great character. She just didn't have a very good start. I'm glad I continued, of course, because Vesperia's cast is my favorite in the series by far.
Vesperia's cast is really decent. I think I just didn't really care for Karol outside of combat because his Japanese voice ended up being a little grating after a while.

Originally Posted by klee123: View Post
Probably one of the reasons why I disliked Symphonia. Colette was comparable to the female characters in SO4.
Nah... Colette's probably a little better than the SO4 characters.

Originally Posted by Seda: View Post
I didn't think Colette was a good character at all, but I didn't hate her.

Then again, it takes A LOT for me to get 'fed up' with pretty much anything.
You got the 1000G in SO4, right? I can't even fathom doing that because I don't have nearly as much patience.
Seda
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(05-16-2012, 06:32 AM)

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Originally Posted by Dark Schala: View Post
You got the 1000G in SO4, right? I can't even fathom doing that because I don't have nearly as much patience.
yeahhhh.

It was more like 500 hours IIRC, although I'm sure a decent chunk of that was me falling asleep while playing.
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Sagitario
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Originally Posted by Aeana: View Post
Colette is my least-favorite female character in a game.

I swear, every time I see a girl trip in a game, I want to smack her.

"I'm sorry"
chickdigger802
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Originally Posted by duckroll: View Post
"Are you prepared to destroy the world for the sake of a girl?"
I'm pretty sure I played that last month.

Asbel clearly didn't give a fuck about any worlds or pretty much anything at all.
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Originally Posted by Ultimoo: View Post
I'd say Sophie is the best female Tales character I've seen so far.
A somewhat emotionless robot girl is the best female character. Tales really sets the bar low.

Originally Posted by Why would you do that?: View Post
Asbel and Cheria kissed.

Well... in a play... but it counted to Cheria!
Yeah, and in order to get it, you had to go find 6 random books throughout the world, of which you would never find without Gamefaqs.
Seda
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Originally Posted by kewlmyc: View Post
An somewhat emotionless robot girl is the best character. Tales really sets the bar low.
I don't know which I would consider my favorite Tales female, but I probably liked Sheena, Raine, and Judith more than Sophie. Probably Tear too (been a while since I've played Abyss, however).

I did find the relationship between Malik and Sophie amusing.
InfiniDragon
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People seriously think Reimi was a better character than Colette? The hell?

Colette was fine, it's Anise and Shirley that need to be shot.
chickdigger802
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like with all media, the best girls are always the friendship zone girls.
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Originally Posted by Man God: View Post
But its so adorable how she put a loony toons style hole in the wall!
You're being sarcastic, but this is seriously the best thing that happens with Estelle in the whole game.

Originally Posted by Sviatoslav: View Post
Collete is still better than any female character in Star Ocean 4.
This just in: stale old moldy twinkies are better than lumpy poop!
InfiniDragon
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So serious question. Is the reason nobody can properly spell Colette's damn name because of the Japanese version (Collet)? I see her name get butchered on the regular by most people, and not just on this forum.
chickdigger802
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Originally Posted by InfiniDragon: View Post
So serious question. Is the reason nobody can properly spell Colette's damn name because of the Japanese version (Collet)? I see her name get butchered on the regular by most people, and not just on this forum.
InfiniDragon
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Originally Posted by chickdigger802: View Post
I know not what a picture of Terra/Tina has to do with it, people spell both versions of her name right. XD

You get odd amalgamations of her (Colette's) JP and US name when people try to spell hers, like "Colett" or "Collete". It's weird.

EDIT: Come to think of it, Lloyd's name gets pretty jacked up on the internet too. Guess it's a Symphonia thing.
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Sagitario
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Originally Posted by Dark Schala: View Post
Well, it doesn't help that no one really likes Colette either.
I am OK with Colette. Cheria is the one I find annoying a lot of times.

Originally Posted by Why would you do that?: View Post
Asbel and Cheria kissed.

Well... in a play... but it counted to Cheria!
Originally Posted by Sagitario: View Post




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He also commented on the the recent closure of Tales Studio. The studio's staff moved into Namco Bandai. He believes this change will have some positive effects, as members of the Tales team can move to the Idolmaster team, and members of the Soul Calibur and Taiko Drum Master teams come to the Tales team.
I don't see this as a good thing, as much as I like Legendia.
That's one of the things I was afraid of when Tales Studio got absorbed.
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InfiniDragon
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Originally Posted by Sagitario: View Post
I am OK with Colette.
*high fives

Although I do also like Cheria, I can actually see in her case why some people would be so put off. There's some instances in Graces where she's pretty much a douche.
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Originally Posted by Dark Schala: View Post
Vesperia's cast is really decent. I think I just didn't really care for Karol outside of combat because his Japanese voice ended up being a little grating after a while.
Annoying voice aside (in both English and Japanese), Karol's actually the only non-Yuri character that had a lasting positive impression on me, after I put some real thought into it. Everyone else I dislike or ended up being indifferent towards.

Originally Posted by InfiniDragon: View Post
So serious question. Is the reason nobody can properly spell Colette's damn name because of the Japanese version (Collet)? I see her name get butchered on the regular by most people, and not just on this forum.
I think it's because there are a couple "legitimate" variations to the name "Colette". A lot of people probably won't see or type Collette or Collete and think it's wrong unless they're second-guessing it.
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Originally Posted by InfiniDragon: View Post
So serious question. Is the reason nobody can properly spell Colette's damn name because of the Japanese version (Collet)? I see her name get butchered on the regular by most people, and not just on this forum.
Probably because she doesn't deserve any better...
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Originally Posted by Dark Schala: View Post

Ohlol.


Edit: As much as I dislike Colette and her apologetic clumsiness, Tear is higher on my female shit list. Annoyingly dull character.
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InfiniDragon
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Originally Posted by Rpgmonkey: View Post
Annoying voice aside (in both English and Japanese), Karol's actually the only non-Yuri character that had a lasting positive impression on me, after I put some real thought into it. Everyone else I dislike or ended up being indifferent towards.
Karol was actually pretty good as a character, voice aside (in JP, I didn't mind his US voice). They actually cared to make him grow and is one of the only characters who actually learns from what Yuri is trying to teach (since let's face it, Yuri pretty much schools everyone throughout that game at some point) and starts being able to do the things they should be doing (Sodia being the other notable in this case).

I liked all of Vesperia's cast (even Rita's annoying ass after she calmed down), but I was always disappointed in what could have been with Raven. I honestly wish that after the reveal he'd stopped kidding around as much and just started acting and fighting like Schwann, he was such a damn boss. A "Change Style III" where he used his sword would have been AMAZING. :(

Originally Posted by duckroll: View Post
Probably because she doesn't deserve any better...
That can't be it, people get Anise's name right.
AlphaDragoon
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All y'all suck. Colette is awesome. :P

Cheria is rubbish, Sagitario has it correct. She's so terrible that just knowing that her and Asbel were gonna be "tru wuv forevah!" made me turn off and never finish the Future Arc of Graces f. And I regret nothing.
Dark Schala
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Originally Posted by InfiniDragon: View Post
So serious question. Is the reason nobody can properly spell Colette's damn name because of the Japanese version (Collet)? I see her name get butchered on the regular by most people, and not just on this forum.
Because no one really cares.

That, and there are many variations of the name, like Rpgmonkey said.

Anise is just easier to spell due to a lack of variations for that name.

Originally Posted by Rpgmonkey: View Post
Annoying voice aside (in both English and Japanese), Karol's actually the only non-Yuri character that had a lasting positive impression on me, after I put some real thought into it. Everyone else I dislike or ended up being indifferent towards.
Admittedly, Karol is probably one of the better characters in Vesperia due to his development (ie: acknowledging his failures and initial cowardice), and learning from Yuri's example. But I think the JP voice makes his situation prior to his revelations and development not very engaging.

After hearing some videos of Karol's English voice, I find that one much preferable to his JP voice.
InfiniDragon
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Originally Posted by Dark Schala: View Post
Because no one really cares.
I think that's wishful thinking on your part because you don't like her, there's a lot of people who just can't spell out there in the world.

I can on the other hand think of a way to spell Anise's name incorrectly that would also far more accurately portray the character, but I won't because that would be immature. XD
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Originally Posted by Aeana: View Post
It's very early when you're in the castle and Yuri first meets her.
Meh. It wasn't forced comic relief like with Colette. It was just a set up to her changing her outfit. Though honestly, I'd rather that play outfit had been her default instead.