[Dice]

How many of us are actually saying it's impossible? All we're saying is that it's a massive pain in the ass to accomplish. Maybe we don't want to dedicate our lives to the effort, or at least would wish that other people don't act like it's easy to do. The whole point of the thread is that this side of the spectrum works just like the opposite side, that attaining a "balanced" physique is a real challenge and takes serious commitment and determination and effort, yet the attitudes held by society show a complete double-standard of sympathies.

[jimi_dini]

I feel the same way OP. The "eat more" thing has happened to me so many fucking times. "Eat more" "I do, I eat a lot, but I have Crohn's disease so it's pretty damn hard to gain weight" "......Oh....... eat more then"

Bro-Fist

"I have the other side of the coin, called ulcerative colitis and I can't eat regulary, just liquid food only"

And when I was on high doses of cortisone for almost a year, I was overweight like shit (although I didn't eat much, just sideeffect of cortisone). Now I'm underweight for more than 2 1/2 years. Granted, overweight was worse, I looked like someone eating 10 pizzas per day (although actually I was super sick inside). Wearing a pullover, I don't look that skinny, so socially it's not that bad.

[Angry Fork]

It's funny how that works, isn't it? I'm among if not the only one in this thread who posted to actual research on how metabolism works and no one chose to comment on it. People either ignore or gloss over the evidence and continue on their crybaby spiel. I figure it's because people don't like to be told they aren't trying hard enough, or since it conflicts with their worldview and their pseudoscientific excuses on why they can't gain weight they dismiss it entirely. They may as well say they can't gain weight because God doesn't allow it.

How come it feels so hard to gain though? Is it really just a matter of every skinny person not eating enough? And every other person who's average sized is eating more? I've eaten 3 meals a day before like normal and remain skinny. I've only gained when I eat 5-6 meals, but everyone else only has to eat 3 meals and they stay average weight. And then what happens if I become average weight? Wouldn't I have to remain eating those 5 meals in order to stay that weight otherwise I'd start losing?

[megamerican]

I would never point out that someone is either too skinny or too fat because:

A) They already know

B) It's none of my fucking business

[zoukka]

And that is awesome. It's when people blame metabolism, blame this, blame that - that's when I roll my eyes.

You take this "blaming" thing a bit too seriously. It's often just an observation on ones way of life to determine why we look as we do. Some people might use it as an excuse to not do something about things, but not everyone.

[Trurl]

I used to be 6'2'' and 165 pounds. I had people tell me I was too skinny all the time and didn't like it either (but I was a damn rail). Now that I'm 205, I wouldn't mind getting "insulted" by my skinniness again.

I used to be 6'5.5'' and 160lbs. THen I went up to 230lbs, and now I'm back to 175lbs. (this has been over the course of 4-5 years)

[Veezy]

How come it feels so hard to gain though? Is it really just a matter of every skinny person not eating enough? And every other person who's average sized is eating more? I've eaten 3 meals a day before like normal and remain skinny. I've only gained when I eat 5-6 meals, but everyone else only has to eat 3 meals and they stay average weight. And then what happens if I become average weight? Wouldn't I have to remain eating those 5 meals in order to stay that weight otherwise I'd start losing?

Yes.

Sit down and actually calculate the amount of calories you intake. Then, think about what you do during the day that's not sitting on your ass. Then, ask your self if that amount is consistent.

If you don't have a thyroid issue or another medical condition, weight gain/loss is generally a self initiated act.

It feels hard because for us skinnies, we don't have the same lifestyle/diet large people do. So we look at them and go "gosh, it's hard to be big" while they shove food in their face and don't move and go "gosh, it's hard to be skinny."

[Petrie]

How many of us are actually saying it's impossible? All we're saying is that it's a massive pain in the ass to accomplish. Maybe we don't want to dedicate our lives to the effort, or at least would wish that other people don't act like it's easy to do. The whole point of the thread is that this side of the spectrum works just like the opposite side, that attaining a "balanced" physique is a real challenge and takes serious commitment and determination and effort, yet the attitudes held by society show a complete double-standard of sympathies.

Because it isn't THAT hard. Eat more, lift heavy things 3 or 4 hours a week. You WILL gain muscle. I've been there.

[zoukka]

Because it isn't THAT hard. Eat more, lift heavy things 3 or 4 hours a week. You WILL gain muscle. I've been there.

By your definition nothing is THAT hard. Which is fine by me, but it doesn't help you in conversation with people :)

[Apeopleman]

I can definitely relate. I'm 6'2" and 135, and no matter how much I eat I can't gain any weight. The thing that really gets me though is when people say I have no room to say I wish I could gain a bit of weight because there are tons of people that wish they could be as skinny as me.

Holy shit! 6'2 and 135lbs? Thats realllllly thin

[kisaya]

Yeah. I used to be really thin and had family and friends point it out a lot. Put me down a bit and ended up just eating unhealthy to try to gain some weight. Now I'm just thin and out of shape, but chubby in random areas (which makes me feel more insecure than being too skinny). Even with the weird weight gain, I still have people calling me too thin :/

5'2 and 115lbs(last time I checked)

[MrOogieBoogie]

Are you really so bored now that you are doing stealth brag threads?

Obviously not as bored as you whining about others.

[Petrie]

By your definition nothing is THAT hard. Which is fine by me, but it doesn't help you in conversation with people :)

It doesn't help in conversation with lazy people who want everything to just happen I suppose.

[Shouta]

Why is it less rude than pointing out someone is fat? Because you don't discriminated as hard for being too skinny.

[zoukka]

It doesn't help in conversation with lazy people who want everything to just happen I suppose.

See now you're just being a prick, which again doesn't help your agenda one bit. If you REALLY tried, you would see the error in your ways, but not everyone has the guts to do it.

[EteRnal_PAL]

How come it feels so hard to gain though? Is it really just a matter of every skinny person not eating enough? And every other person who's average sized is eating more? I've eaten 3 meals a day before like normal and remain skinny. I've only gained when I eat 5-6 meals, but everyone else only has to eat 3 meals and they stay average weight. And then what happens if I become average weight? Wouldn't I have to remain eating those 5 meals in order to stay that weight otherwise I'd start losing?

In my case, it really is just a matter of not eating enough. I got up to 152 lbs when I was eating 6 meals a day and working out. When the baby arrived, I went back to eating 3 meals a day and slowly stopped working out. Perhaps it was a combination of both not eating as much as before and no longer working out... but I lost 17 lbs in about 3 to 4 months if not a little sooner. Every time I got sick I easily lose up to 5 lbs in a day or two. I'm very weight conscious so I weigh myself religiously. Why I lose weight so fast is beyond me, I was always told it was because I have a fast metabolism.

[Zoe]

Why I lose weight so fast is beyond me, I was always told it was because I have a fast metabolism.

Did a doctor tell you that? If so, did they give you any options?

[neptunes]

Yes. Sit down and actually calculate the amount of calories you intake. Then, think about what you do during the day that's not sitting on your ass. Then, ask your self if that amount is consistent. If you don't have a thyroid issue or another medical condition, weight gain/loss is generally a self initiated act. It feels hard because for us skinnies, we don't have the same lifestyle/diet large people do. So we look at them and go "gosh, it's hard to be big" while they shove food in their face and don't move and go "gosh, it's hard to be skinny."

I think its hard for me to gain weight in certain places (if at all), even after weight training.

It's hereditary in my case, I don' t think i'll ever be thick.

[MIMIC]

I would love to know what the skinny people in here are doing to try to gain weight. To say its impossible to not gain weight is absurd. If you try hard enough, you will gain weight. Are you lifting 4-5 days a week? Is your diet heavy protein and carbs? You aren't going to get fat by eating 3000+ healthy calories a day if you are lifting 1+ hour 5 days a week. Or just GOMAD. Gallon of milk a day. I always considered myself skinny at 6'6" 210. Did GOMAD with heavy left and gained 20lbs of mostly muscle in less than 2 months.

And then I go, "Wow....it's so not worth it." lol

Gaining weight for me would only an added bonus to my life, not a dire necessity.

[Petrie]

See now you're just being a prick, which again doesn't help your agenda one bit. If you REALLY tried, you would see the error in your ways, but not everyone has the guts to do it.

No, telling me I need to redefine what I consider "hard" in order to better sympathize with lazy people is being a prick. Lifting weights for 3-4 hours a week and prioritizing more $$ for calorie dense food (nutrs, beef, olive oil, etc) isn't hard. If you're eating rice and chicken and complaining you can't put on weight, the problem is on you.

[grumble]

You know I used to be pretty thin, and used the exact same excuses all the skinny people are saying in this thread. It's complete bullshit.

1. Track your calories for a couple of weeks, and try to be accurate. You'll be surprised.
2. Think about your activity levels; do you walk around a lot? Do you participate in something active? A lot of people who gain weight when they hit their late 20's do so not because their metabolism is gone but because they just sit on their ass all day.

I stopped working out recently and have lost a lot of weight. I usually eat two lunches; today I had two hamburgers, large fries with gravy, cheese and bacon. I ate a couple of energy bars too.

I know when I track my calories at the end of today it'll STILL be pretty low.

When I was working out and wanted to gain weight, it required a lifestyle change but once you got in the habit it was easy. Find high calorie foods and eat them throughout the day. Don't skip breakfast, and eat lots of snacks. Always get seconds. Eat before bed. Lift weights. It works, but takes months; luckily once you've done it for a couple of weeks your body gets used to eating more.

[Petrie]

And then I go, "Wow....it's so not worth it." lol Gaining weight for me would only an added bonus to my life, not a dire necessity.

Well our ancestors gave us bodies that need that stimuli to be healthy.

[Deified Data]

It's rude either way. Anyone who thinks calling someone "too skinny" is okay is just oblivious.

[ezrarh]

It's funny how that works, isn't it? I'm among if not the only one in this thread who posted to actual research on how metabolism works and no one chose to comment on it. People either ignore or gloss over the evidence and continue on their crybaby spiel. I figure it's because people don't like to be told they aren't trying hard enough, or since it conflicts with their worldview and their pseudoscientific excuses on why they can't gain weight they dismiss it entirely. They may as well say they can't gain weight because God doesn't allow it.

It's hard to overcome ignorance with facts. It's natural and easier for people to give excuses (in either direction) than to do the work which is only hard if you're doing it wrong.

If you're skinny and you're fine with it then that's fine but I don't think eating a lot more without heavy weightlifting or some kind of other physical exercise is worthwhile since all you really gain is more bodyfat.

and I had to deal with being called skinny all the way up to sophomore year in college since I ran cross country and had an asian diet so I was pretty much a stick. I just upped my milk and caloric intake and did weightlifting and it wasn't much of a problem even though I remembered saying I had such a high metabolism early in high school that it would be hard for me to gain weight.

[Croc]

Why is it less rude than pointing out someone is fat? Because you don't discriminated as hard for being too skinny.

I personally don't think it has much to do with discrimination in this case. I think most people will agree that in most cases, being bigger is less acceptable in society and harder to deal with than being skinny.

I think the case is more that a lot of people have this idea that there is some kind of inherent idea that smaller>bigger and everyone should strive for skinny. I think it just comes down to ignorance in that people who make comments about someone being skinny have no idea that someone could even not want that.

[zoukka]

No, telling me I need to redefine what I consider "hard" in order to better sympathize with lazy people is being a prick. Lifting weights for 3-4 hours a week and prioritizing more $$ for calorie dense food (nutrs, beef, olive oil, etc) isn't hard. If you're eating rice and chicken and complaining you can't put on weight, the problem is on you.

I know plenty of people who have a very tight schedule in life. This does not mean they can't change it to start hitting gym regularly, but to say it isn't that hard is just overgeneralization on your part.

And if you honestly think someone as a prick, when that someone tries to argue semantics with you, then you have problems son.

[Petrie]

It's hard to overcome ignorance with facts. It's natural and easier for people to give excuses (in either direction) than to do the work which is only hard if you're doing it wrong. If you're skinny and you're fine with it then that's fine but I don't think eating a lot more without heavy weightlifting or some kind of other physical exercise is worthwhile since all you really gain is more bodyfat.

They think anyone with healthy mass just has it because they got better genes. Obviously god hates them.

[EteRnal_PAL]

Did a doctor tell you that? If so, did they give you any options?

The last time I saw my doctor was about 2-3 years ago for a physical right when I was a couple of months into my weight gaining regiment. I believe I was about 125 lbs at the time. I haven't been back to the doctor since to discuss about my quick weight loss that I noticed after I put all the weight on. Will certainly probe the doctor with some questions the next time I visit him.

[Petrie]

I know plenty of people who have a very tight schedule in life. This does not mean they can't change it to start hitting gym regularly, but to say it isn't that hard is just overgeneralization on your part. And if you honestly think someone as a prick, when that someone tries to argue semantics with you, then you have problems son.

Not semantics. You are telling me I need to come down to their level of laziness. This is not something I will do. They have time too post on Neogaf so clearly their schedule is not that tight.

[EteRnal_PAL]

You know I used to be pretty thin, and used the exact same excuses all the skinny people are saying in this thread. It's complete bullshit. 1. Track your calories for a couple of weeks, and try to be accurate. You'll be surprised. 2. Think about your activity levels; do you walk around a lot? Do you participate in something active? A lot of people who gain weight when they hit their late 20's do so not because their metabolism is gone but because they just sit on their ass all day. I stopped working out recently and have lost a lot of weight. I usually eat two lunches; today I had two hamburgers, large fries with gravy, cheese and bacon. I ate a couple of energy bars too. I know when I track my calories at the end of today it'll STILL be pretty low. When I was working out and wanted to gain weight, it required a lifestyle change but once you got in the habit it was easy. Find high calorie foods and eat them throughout the day. Don't skip breakfast, and eat lots of snacks. Always get seconds. Eat before bed. Lift weights. It works, but takes months; luckily once you've done it for a couple of weeks your body gets used to eating more.

Yup, this is exactly what I have gone through and continue to do so. This man speaks the truth.

[zoukka]

Not semantics. You are telling me I need to come down to their level of laziness. This is not something I will do. They have time too post on Neogaf so clearly their schedule is not that tight.

Recognizing that people have different meanings to words is "coming down to their level", how fucking elitistic does that sound. Something is hard to you means it's hard to all people on the planet wtf?

[Trent Strong]

So I guess dehumanizing fat people will fix that right?

Dehumanizing? Oh, please.

[SquiddyCracker]

Haha, this is so true.
My girlfriend's roommate said "You need to eat more, get some meat on those bones - or your boyfriend will get bored of you!" which baffled both of us (and made us laugh later).
It was even more bizarre as the girl who said this was quite overweight.

[Shouta]

I personally don't think it has much to do with discrimination in this case. I think most people will agree that in most cases, being bigger is less acceptable in society and harder to deal with than being skinny. I think the case is more that a lot of people have this idea that there is some kind of inherent idea that smaller>bigger and everyone should strive for skinny. I think it just comes down to ignorance in that people who make comments about someone being skinny have no idea that someone could even not want that.

On a personal level, sure. But it's a societal issue. Our perception that smaller is better than bigger is a result of the culture we live in. Some places in the world it's the exact opposite so.

[Petrie]

Recognizing that people have different meanings to words is "coming down to their level", how fucking elitistic does that sound. Something is hard to you means it's hard to all people on the planet wtf?

If going to the gym for 3 hours a week is "hard" along with switching to richer foods, then you need more help than a thread on Neogaf can provide.

[MjFrancis]

It's often just an observation on ones way of life to determine why we look as we do. Some people might use it as an excuse to not do something about things, but not everyone.

It's an observation backed by poor logic. Once the idea that you can't gain weight no matter what you eat is taken as Truth (even as a partial truth), then everything that follows will be nonsense.

I'm merely pointing out that false attribution of causation.

[Petrie]

It's an observation backed by poor logic. Once the idea that you can't gain weight no matter what you eat is taken as Truth (even as a partial truth), then everything that follows will be nonsense. I'm merely pointing out that false attribution of causation.

MjFrancis, you are my hero.

Back to Fitgaf I go, where we don't make excuses. We do something about it.

[Tuck]

I'm skinny, and I hate being reminded of it.

I'd rather be skinny than fat, but even so, I don't like when people bring it up.

[youngplaya21]

Not semantics. You are telling me I need to come down to their level of laziness. This is not something I will do. They have time too post on Neogaf so clearly their schedule is not that tight.

Dude, stop acting like everyone who's skinny in this thread is being lazy. At least half of the people who posted said that they were actively trying to gain weight. Hell the OP posts in the damn Fitness thread. You're making it sound like we're just sitting here hoping we get fat. I'm not complaining about what you said (you're 100% right), but I swear it's like you didn't read the posts in this thread at all or something.

I know for me, $$$ is keeping me from gaining much weight. 3000+ calories apparently isn't enough for me, since eating that much for over a month hasn't helped at all, and I don't have the $$$ to buy a fucking gallon of milk a day...

[zoukka]

If going to the gym for 3 hours a week is "hard" along with switching to richer foods, then you need more help than a thread on Neogaf can provide.

I can use that same logic on just about anything relating to human activity. You are projecting your own way of life as a golden standard to others and undermining any arguments with "I did it, anyone can do it, it's not that hard". You keep parroting the same thing in every post when in fact the issue is your reasoning and logic.

Back to Fitgaf I go, where we don't make excuses. We do something about it.

I fucking lol'd.

[Croc]

On a personal level, sure. But it's a societal issue. Our perception that smaller is better than bigger is a result of the culture we live in. Some places in the world it's the exact opposite so.

Yeah I understand that, I guess I'm just talking about the US here since that's the only place I've ever been and have experienced firsthand. I sometimes forget that not everyone here is from the US hahaha.

I guess my point is that despite that it's easier/harder to be skinny/fat in society, that doesn't mean that calling someone either one of those should be more or less acceptable than the other. A person's feelings on being either one of those is not as predictable as "it's more acceptable in society to be skinny, therefore they should be happy they are skinny and it should be okay for me to poke fun."

[Petrie]

Dude, stop acting like everyone who's skinny in this thread is being lazy. At least half of the people who posted said that they were actively trying to gain weight. Hell the OP posts in the damn Fitness thread. You're making it sound like we're just sitting here hoping we get fat. I'm not complaining about what you said (you're 100% right), but I swear it's like you didn't read the posts in this thread at all or something. I know for me, $$$ is keeping me from gaining much weight. 3000+ calories apparently isn't enough for me, since eating that much for over a month hasn't helped at all, and I don't have the $$$ to buy a fucking gallon of milk a day...

3000 calories likely isn't enough. As stated, if you are trying to gain weight and aren't eating at least 4000 calories a day along with working out, then you aren't doing it right. Find somewhere to cut your budget and buy more milk/nuts/pour olive oil on everything you eat/etc.

The reason we keep saying the same things is unless you are the .00001% with a true genetic issue, you can gain weight. It is just a matter or focusing your efforts. There isn't some magic needed. You eat more, you lift heavy things.

[Big-E]

3000 calories likely isn't enough. As stated, if you are trying to gain weight and aren't eating at least 4000 calories a day along with working out, then you aren't doing it right. Find somewhere to cut your budget and buy more milk/nuts/pour olive oil on everything you eat/etc. The reason we keep saying the same things is unless you are the .00001% with a true genetic issue, you can gain weight. It is just a matter or focusing your efforts. There isn't some magic needed. You eat more, you lift heavy things.

Had a co worker who said he could never gain weight. He was 6 foot 4 and 170. Decides to go to the gym but starts going only for 30 minutes 3 times a week. Convince him to start going harder and more often, puts on over 5 pounds in a month but then gets lazy and continues with the excuse that he can't gain weight. I think you right in saying that there can't be that many people in this thread with a genetic abnormality where it is near impossible to gain weight.

[Fuu]

So much hyperbole in the thread, most of the posts are just saying it can be as hard as losing weight and if anything the complaining is about the double standard where it's somewhat more socially acceptable to tell someone they're too skinny and not that they're too fat. I'm pretty sure no one believes it's impossible and everyone is aware of what it takes.

I for one actually hit the gym daily for months and gained mass when it dawned on me I'd never be truly happy with myself unless I did it. It was a pain in the ass and took a long time but it was worth it, I'm lean now and satisfied. The boost in confidence and the compliments you hear for a bit were a great bonus too. I'm not as fit since I stopped but it's easier for me to get back on track (can't be assed for now), and thankfully I never got as skinny as before. My arms look good and they were by far the part of my body I was most self-conscious about.

If someone is making excuses it's because it's most likely not something that affects them deeply enough for them to take action, and that's ok too, whatever. My advice is: pinpoint whatever is wrong and do everything that's in your power to be happy with yourself.

[NinjaFridge]

MjFrancis, you are my hero. Back to Fitgaf I go, where we don't make excuses. We do something about it.

You should post in the depression thread too, there are a couple of people in there who go with the "i did it and it wasn't hard" thing.

[LeleSocho]

ITT: people think they eat a lot so they are raging when people say them to eat more

Had a friend who was skinny as fuck claiming that he could eat for 3 people but he had a super fast metabolism, turns out after he followed my "diet" he gained 4 kg in a month or so and now he looks like a normal person and eat the quantities of food like a normal person. People always tends to think that they eat a lot whatever the size of their body or the quantities of food ate so OP, in the end, you should eat more.

[CaptainMintMan]

I'm 5'11 and around 130. Doesn't get much worse.

[TwiztidElf]

As an ex-fat person who is now "too skinny", I never tire of being told it. I work damn hard to be this skinny.

I'm going to have Mothers day lunch with my Mum today, and I'm for sure going to hear it. When I go and stay at her place, she feeds me as if I haven't eaten since last time I saw her.

[Don'tBeWeird]

I fucking hate being called skinny.

It's incredibly rude.

[Trurl]

What's wrong with being skinny if I am healthy? All indicators of my health come back excellent. My HDL cholesterol is astonishingly low. Could I maintain that if I put on mass? It seems to me that I'm more likely to live a long life now than if I were to bulk up.