[R2D4]

Great, my bluray player already takes like 1 min 30 sec to even start up (it's one of the earliest cheap players from sony, the BDP-S300).

My 2nd gen Toshiba HD-DVD player is like starting a PC. It's probably 3-4 min before you can even open the disc tray.

[Dead Man]

Fuck them for this. I'm a paying customer and I have to put up with this shit for almost every movie. I have some nice blu-rays that will just start automatically the movie, with almost no delay... At least put those UK-"warnings" in there. Some applause scene that goes along the lines of "Thank you for buying this movie legally". Much less annoying as it doesn't treat you as a criminal for buying a product.

Carrots work better than sticks, some feel good congrats would be bearable, rather than black screens of doom for 20 seconds.

[Sylver]

Correct Answer.

This apply now with on-disc DLC.
pay the unlock code to get the full-content
hack the game to get the full-cotnent.

[ThatCrazyGuy]

Whatever to me I guess. With some blu rays that have all this crap on start up, I just load it up, and get some snacks ready.

I just watched Kung Fu Panda 2 though, and it went straight to the movie I think. I put it in and walked away, and then the opening scene is going, I'm like wtf, haha.

Would prefer it not be there of course.

[Fuu]

Agreed that a congratulatory message would be better if they really need to have something like this, I didn't even know those existed. What's even more pointless is that more often than not we get piracy warning screens in English in localized media here (I'm in Brazil). Lol.

That's the sad part. Everyone's so impatient about everything.

It's more about a message that's of no concern to me than how long it takes. The message isn't reaching the pirates, it's pointless. If it offered me an unskippable blowjob whenever I wanted to watch the movie I would be patient and have no qualms about it.

[Eusis]

Unskippable trailers ARE the greater of two evils by the way, easily. Well, I can possibly forgive this if they're exclusive to rental copies (in theory, I THINK the rental of Inception had unskippable trailers but I can't recall), but if I buy a movie/TV series I am paying partially avoid that sort of shit. And it's in a controlled environment, unlike a movie theater where one consumer choosing to skip ahead isn't fair to everyone that did want to see those trailers.

It's mostly something I've heard about though but only experienced once or twice, thankfully.

[LyleLanley]

I recently went to an event dealing with this kind of stuff. What I took from it was that the point of these warnings was to get the idea, that downloading copyrighted material is wrong, in the heads of young people. They think that young people don't see anything wrong with downloading pirated media.

[Arcteryx]

While I do think these things are pointless, I'm not sure if I'd call this "punishing" either, that's a gross exaggeration. The notice lasts a few seconds, I don't understand how impatient do you have to be for that to piss you off. That's, like, 0,000001% of the time of the whole movie, so it's not like you have to watch a 30 minute lecture before you get to watch a 10 minute clip.

I'm not mad about having extra ads/this disclaimer taking up time. What I'm mad about is being treated like a criminal with all the piracy warnings on a....LEGIT copy.

[lethial]

Oh no not a whole 15 secs!

[SpokkX]

And they wonder why people download, seriously?

Now the pirated version will be even better than the originals.... Just using these plastic discs in 2012 is oldschool enough

This will just create more pirates

[Gentleman Jack]

Oh no not a whole 15 secs!

As we move forward in time you want things to become faster with technological advances, not slower because some jerk in a suit thinks you still don't understand something every time you load a disc into a device.

[Dysun]

Pointless since pirating the movie removes all the annoying adverts anyway

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

There new warnings were there when I watched the 2D version of Underworld: Awakening. Took me by surprise to be honest.

[Stumpokapow]

To rip Blu-Rays:
http://www.makemkv.com

To rip DVDs:
http://www.dvddecrypter.org.uk/

To encode the resulting rips:
http://handbrake.fr/

To play anything:
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html

[985boi]

There new warnings were there when I watched the 2D version of Underworld: Awakening. Took me by surprise to be honest.

Yup. Same here. Pressed the next button several times and was wondering why the hell I couldn't skip it as usual.

[Az987]

Still beats going to the movie theater and sitting through 10 minutes of Coke and Target commercials.

[smr00]

Meh it's just 10-20 seconds.

Better go pirate since i am a self entitled prick who can't wait 10 seconds.

People will always try to justify their crimes and it's pretty pathetic.

[sillymonkey321]

Meh it's just 10-20 seconds. Better go pirate since i am a self entitled prick who can't wait 10 seconds. People will always try to justify their crimes and it's pretty pathetic.

YOU PAID FOR THE MOVIE , IT"S NOT ENTITLEMENTS IF YOU ARE THE ONE SPENDING THE MONEY

[SMT]

Well, I'm no longer buying North-American Blu-rays, because I hate the annoyance of regular FBI red and blue screens.

[mattp]

Unskippable trailers ARE the greater of two evils by the way, easily. Well, I can possibly forgive this if they're exclusive to rental copies (in theory, I THINK the rental of Inception had unskippable trailers but I can't recall), but if I buy a movie/TV series I am paying partially avoid that sort of shit. And it's in a controlled environment, unlike a movie theater where one consumer choosing to skip ahead isn't fair to everyone that did want to see those trailers. It's mostly something I've heard about though but only experienced once or twice, thankfully.

this really is the worst

most movies take like 5+ minutes to get to the menu cuz of all the unskippable ADVERTISING before the fucking movie you paid for

[LiK]

Well, I'm no longer buying North-American Blu-rays, because I hate the annoyance of regular FBI red and blue screens.

Hong Kong Blus/DVDs are even worse now. sighhhh

[SMT]

Hong Kong Blus/DVDs are even worse now. sighhhh

You also have European and Japanese Blu-rays, some are rarely region locked, but if you looked up the whole 'Region Free Blu-ray Player' before investing in a home theater, you should be fine.

Plus, blu-rays from England are way cheap.

[Giant Robot]

I understand that the message people get as if they feel like they are a criminal if they purchased the movie legally. But I feel it's just as easy to ignore the message. If it quirks you that much then you know what other means to get around it.

[synt4x]

LOL I have that player too. What a huge POS. a minute to start up, 3 minutes to load the movie (menu) and if you try to click the skip forward button too quickly through the trailers it crashes the player. God damn. Will never be an early adopter nor buy Sony products again.

Did you ever upgrade the firmware btw? It takes almost 30 fucking minutes to complete. 30 minutes! And the firmware is like, smaller than 10 MBs. What the hell is taking so long?

[bryanee]

The only thing I miss about VHS, you can fast forward through all the crap.

[Baconsammy]

They haven't made one I can't skip yet by simply walking out of the room to do something else.

[Emitan]

>insert disk into computer
>rip movie
LOLOLOL

[Lord Error]

Yeah, just try getting picture quality alike to a blu ray on a high end player on netflix. Not gonna happen.

Or any player. Netflix stuff looks like crap, not to mention they don't have any new movies. Still, these warnings are stupid beyond belief. Put them on TV or news ads or something, not on the movie I just paid for to see.

>insert disk into computer >rip movie LOLOLOL

To be fair, making a rip takes a hell of a longer time than just sitting down through these warnings.

[ThatCrazyGuy]

YOU PAID FOR THE MOVIE , IT"S NOT ENTITLEMENTS IF YOU ARE THE ONE SPENDING THE MONEY

I think he means, so you hear MIB3 has 30 extra seconds of un-skipable stuff in the beginning, I was gonna buy it, but now I'm just gonna download it, screw that 30 seconds.

If you own it already, then it's not pirating, right? Download it, or rip it.

The trailers are more annoying to me, lol.

[Brian Griffin]

Meh it's just 10-20 seconds. Better go pirate since i am a self entitled prick who can't wait 10 seconds. People will always try to justify their crimes and it's pretty pathetic.

Ok how you you feel about 1min? 5min? 10min? Where's the line? The time is actually irrelevant to everyone who is mad, it's the principal that's important. The reasoning for the warnings is this: our movies are being pirated so lets punish people who paid for it. Fucking retarded.

[Yoritomo]

And this is why I rip all the discs I purchase using MakeMKV.

[thiscoldblack]

We'll probably get both 2 new warnings and then the commercial about 'you wouldn't steal a car, etc.'. Next up, commercials in between scenes of the movie.

[slit]

What exactly is this supoosed to accomplish?

They really think education is the problem? The problem is the general populace doesn't give a shit and no amount of warnings is going to change that.

[DNF]

Fuck them for this. I'm a paying customer and I have to put up with this shit for almost every movie. I have some nice blu-rays that will just start automatically the movie, with almost no delay... At least put those UK-"warnings" in there. Some applause scene that goes along the lines of "Thank you for buying this movie legally". Much less annoying as it doesn't treat you as a criminal for buying a product.

This so much. we have this in germany too, but sadly in only like 3% of the dvd's that i bought. the other 97% has these stupid unskippable pirate warnings.
the only message i get from this ads is: we don't care about you silly costumer, go ahead and buy one of these exernal hds.

Edit: and as far as i understand it, it isn't even legal to rip these dvds that i bought and have them all on one hd or is it ?

[Raistlin]

And this is one of the reasons why I have a media server

[grap3fruitman]

people getting mad over a few minutes of unstoppable ads out of 90-120 minutes of a movie. Start the movie, go take a piss or something, come back and begin movie.

Seriously, these people are so entitled it's not even funny. You people should be glad that these giant corporations even make these amazing films and let you purchase them! For shame.

Not seriously.

[Azure Dream]

"Sir, these anti-piracy warning screens aren't helping! They just annoy consumers and don't stop piracy!"
"Make them longer and harder to skip!"
"...Sir, I don't think you understand what "people hate these useless fucking things" means..."

[Omegasquash]

Meh it's just 10-20 seconds. Better go pirate since i am a self entitled prick who can't wait 10 seconds. People will always try to justify their crimes and it's pretty pathetic.

Start inconveniencing one person, or a group of people, for something a vast MINORITY have done and you start looking like the bad guy. It's easier to buy the damn DVD and rip it yourself so you have a copy that doesn't waste your time. Not at all agreeing with movie piracy here, but calling someone a self entitled prick isn't exactly a kindness either. C'mon, man.

[echoshifting]

Okay, well...time to start ripping discs. This shit is already intolerable. No thanks.

[entrement]

Hollywood is so clueless.

[outunderthestars]

Meh it's just 10-20 seconds. Better go pirate since i am a self entitled prick who can't wait 10 seconds. People will always try to justify their crimes and it's pretty pathetic.

I'm not a pirate of any media, and I have to say that I find the increasing hassle of legitimate video media to be a reason to simply stop buying it.

If they are really concerned about "Educating" the public, why not just make a paper insert to go in the case. Why do I need to be "educated" every time I access the media that I lquite obviously didn't pirate?

[mxgt]

Well, I'm no longer buying North-American Blu-rays, because I hate the annoyance of regular FBI red and blue screens.

I'm from the UK and some of the blu rays I buy here have American federal warnings in them, it's fucking stupid.

[RevDM]

I guess people were still downloading cars.

[Yoritomo]

So so fucking stupid. The only people this affects are the individuals who watch the original video from the disc.

Anyone who downloads an iso, rips a rental, buys an illegal copy from a flea market, or downloads a recompressed rip from the internet will never have to see the warnings!

This is literally a situation where clamping down makes the user experience worse only for LEGITIMATE customers.

[Go319]

fucked!

every-time im staring at an anti-piracy ad and waiting for it to go all im thinking is "damn it should have just streamed this :/"

makes me rage knowing ive paid and have to suffer through that shit.

[FliXFantatier]

In order to combat car theft, I propose we make the driver sit through a full minute of messages on the dash informing him of how awful car theft is every time he starts up his car.

I lold, great idea :)

I recently went to an event dealing with this kind of stuff. What I took from it was that the point of these warnings was to get the idea, that downloading copyrighted material is wrong, in the heads of young people. They think that young people don't see anything wrong with downloading pirated media.

Yea, I can just picture it, all these young whipper snappers who watch a legally bought blu ray for the first time to have their minds blown about how wrong they have been in the past.
They'll probably pick up the phone momenterily in order to call the FBI and confess their past crimes and promises never to do it again...

[Raistlin]

To rip Blu-Rays and DVD: http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html

I think there were some typos in your post. Lemme fix that

[Omegasquash]

fucked! every-time im staring at an anti-piracy ad and waiting for it to go all im thinking is "damn it should have just streamed this :/" makes me rage knowing ive paid and have to suffer through that shit.

Let's be honest though...suffer is a pretty strong word here too. Annoy the shit out of is much more appropriate. Still makes the industry look like fuckbags and gets the point across. It's inconvenient and annoying as shit...sort of like the "are you a member/want to get our credit card" pitch at registers in various brick and mortars.

It makes me want to not patronize them, not steal their shit.

[Stumpokapow]

I think there were some typos in your post. Lemme fix that

I'd recommend MakeMKV / DVD Decrypter handily over AnyDVD. DVD Decrypter can be command line automated and is freeware. MakeMKV is currently free. AnyDVD is a crippled piece of trialware with a hard upsell.

[SMT]

I'm from the UK and some of the blu rays I buy here have American federal warnings in them, it's fucking stupid.

Shit, I thought for sure you would have MI6. These ads are poisonous, I feel bad for you, here in Canada we also have the U.S. laws lol.