[devildog820]

I love ripping all my DVDs/Blu-Rays to my Mac Mini so my Apple TV can play them instantly and even, gasp, remember where they were when I stopped. I realize some Blu-ray movies do this if it's programmed and most DVD players do for a single movie, but still.

[Marty Chinn]

I love ripping all my DVDs/Blu-Rays to my Mac Mini so my Apple TV can play them instantly and even, gasp, remember where they were when I stopped. I realize some Blu-ray movies do this if it's programmed and most DVD players do for a single movie, but still.

Why don't you just buy from iTunes instead if you're going to compress/convert them?

[Raistlin]

I'd recommend MakeMKV / DVD Decrypter handily over AnyDVD. DVD Decrypter can be command line automated and is freeware. MakeMKV is currently free. AnyDVD is a crippled piece of trialware with a hard upsell.

You get what you pay for. For BluRay if you want menus and extras, it's the way to go.


Also it's constantly updated so it essentially works on all discs.

[Yoritomo]

I'd recommend MakeMKV / DVD Decrypter handily over AnyDVD. DVD Decrypter can be command line automated and is freeware. MakeMKV is currently free. AnyDVD is a crippled piece of trialware with a hard upsell.

AnyDVD HD is the only software that can rip a handful of discs. It runs in the background and I use MakeMKV on top of it to rip all my stuff. DVD Decrypter and MakeMKV will fail on quite a few discs.

Having everything working together is great. But then again I bought AnyDVD HD when it was cheap and had a lifetime subscription. This was before MakeMKV existed so there was no other option other than Dvdfab which began to deploy a system where you would download rips they couldn't decrypt... which funnily enough were decrypted using AnyDVD.

[Mr_Zombie]

I fucking hate this stuff.

I bough a "Black Swan" DVD. The first thing that played was a 2-minute video comparing the enjoyment you get from watching an official video to the one you get from watching a pirate one. I cringed watching it, because it was so fucking over the top. Apparently, a pirate copy is something akin to old VHS copies - stuttering visuals, shitty audio etc. Oh, and your friends will hate you and abandon you. What the video did not mention was that with a pirate copy I would be watching the movie already instead of wasting my time watching this shitty video that that shouldn't be even targeted towards me - a person who bought an official DVD.

Seriously, who is the target for this videos/screens? People who are buying DVD/BR are greeted with warnings/threats about copyrights and with videos about how shitty a pirate copy is. Yeah, I paid money so obviously I should be the one reading/watching those things. It makes me feel better about the money I spent.

And Hollywood ponders why people buy less DVD/BR nowadays.

[Eusis]

I bough a "Black Swan" DVD. The first thing that played was a 2-minute video comparing the enjoyment you get from watching an official video to the one you get from watching a pirate one. I cringed watching it, because it was so fucking over the top. Apparently, a pirate copy is something akin to old VHS copies - stuttering visuals, shitty audio etc. Oh, and your friends will hate you and abandon you. What the video did not mention was that with a pirate copy I would be watching the movie already instead of wasting my time watching this shitty video that that shouldn't be even targeted towards me - a person who bought an official DVD.

Unskippable I take it? That is definitely the worst of two evils put together, do these people even have a fucking clue? Or is there research that supports this stuff actually working?

EDIT: Though that brings to mind: could what started this topic actually be an attempted compromise here? I imagine many feel that a message is "necessary", but others realize no one wants to be patronized watching a legitimate disc they bought/rented, so they iron out a standard pair of warnings to use and keep them at a relatively short time. Question then becomes whether this is actually forced on all DVD/blu-rays. I imagine/hope not, but we are talking about the same government that thought it was worthwhile to mandate a "winners don't use drugs" message in Arcade games for a long time. Probably won't matter if it's not forced though, since most major studios will force it anyway.

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

All the unstoppable crap is really getting annoying. It's stupid I have to rip my dvds to pretty much make them watchable and not have to sit through 5 mins of ads and warnings.

[Jimothy]

I love ripping all my DVDs/Blu-Rays to my Mac Mini so my Apple TV can play them instantly and even, gasp, remember where they were when I stopped. I realize some Blu-ray movies do this if it's programmed and most DVD players do for a single movie, but still.

I'd rather deal with the warnings than watch shitty compressed mp4 versions of my Blu-Rays.

[Eusis]

Another thought: shouldn't these warning be ELSEWHERE? Maybe on a slip in the case, but how about on TV? As ads on websites? If you bought the DVD/blu-ray that should be seen as a victory against piracy and to leave you alone.

[Tenck]

Yeah, just try getting picture quality alike to a blu ray on a high end player on netflix. Not gonna happen.

Some of us are fine with watching films from Netflix on giant televisions. Point being, not everybody cares about 1080p. Hell I watched 7 seasons of Scrubs before they finally made the transition to HD without a problem.

[WEGGLES]

I WAS going to pirate this movie, but then they made it even more inconvenient for legitimate purchasers. Take my money Holywood.

[gooey kablooie]

I fucking hate this stuff. I bough a "Black Swan" DVD. The first thing that played was a 2-minute video comparing the enjoyment you get from watching an official video to the one you get from watching a pirate one. I cringed watching it, because it was so fucking over the top. Apparently, a pirate copy is something akin to old VHS copies - stuttering visuals, shitty audio etc. Oh, and your friends will hate you and abandon you. What the video did not mention was that with a pirate copy I would be watching the movie already instead of wasting my time watching this shitty video that that shouldn't be even targeted towards me - a person who bought an official DVD. Seriously, who is the target for this videos/screens? People who are buying DVD/BR are greeted with warnings/threats about copyrights and with videos about how shitty a pirate copy is. Yeah, I paid money so obviously I should be the one reading/watching those things. It makes me feel better about the money I spent. And Hollywood ponders why people buy less DVD/BR nowadays.

Would you be able to find that on youtube and post it here?

[bengraven]

I need to get a Blu Ray RW drive for my PC ASAP.

[Stumpokapow]

AnyDVD HD is the only software that can rip a handful of discs. It runs in the background and I use MakeMKV on top of it to rip all my stuff. DVD Decrypter and MakeMKV will fail on quite a few discs.

I've ripped about 90% of my Blus so far (maybe 75 movies, 5-10 seasons of TV) and the only one that's caused any trouble with MakeMKV has been the PBS America in Primetime TV set, which didn't rip when I got it on release day. I haven't tried again since.

DVD Decrypter has ripped all of my DVDs (250-300 seasons of TV, 200-250 movies).

I'm not saying there aren't compatibility cases where AnyDVD wins, but I haven't run into them and I'm got a pretty fat collection.

MakeMKV also has the benefit of being available on Mac.

You get what you pay for. For BluRay if you want menus and extras, it's the way to go.

I don't want menus, video content extras rip fine. Admittedly I did not consider the case that anyone would want non-video extras or menus. Menus are, in and of themselves, the unskippable garbage being discussed above IMHO. Boot -> Click Play Movie -> Watch Movie is still an unnecessary intermediate step between Boot and Watch Movie.

Also it's constantly updated so it essentially works on all discs.

This is also true for MakeMKV.

[Raistlin]

I've ripped about 90% of my Blus so far (maybe 75 movies, 5-10 seasons of TV) and the only one that's caused any trouble with MakeMKV has been the PBS America in Primetime TV set, which didn't rip when I got it on release day. I haven't tried again since. DVD Decrypter has ripped all of my DVDs (250-300 seasons of TV, 200-250 movies). I'm not saying there aren't compatibility cases where AnyDVD wins, but I haven't run into them and I'm got a pretty fat collection. MakeMKV also has the benefit of being available on Mac.

No menu'd plebes



:)

[coldfoot]

Disappointed this wasn't posted:

[Nerfgun]

I'd rather deal with the warnings than watch shitty compressed mp4 versions of my Blu-Rays.

You're in for a surprise when you find out what file container your blu-rays are encoded in.

Also - am I the only one who is happy to do away with menus and just leave the damn film as it's own file? I've never wanted to rip the extras. what a pain.

(ok and now coldfoot goes and upstages my comment with one of the few awesome DVD menu setups out there... Fight Club)

[Risette]

One thing I like about the Blurays I import from Japan is that there's usually no warning or one short warning (mostly skippable) and then it goes straight to the movie/show. I guess that's what you get when the MSRP converts to like $60-80 per movie or $300-400 per series boxset. Not sure if worth it. But it's nice.

You're in for a surprise when you find out what file container your blu-rays are encoded in.

m2ts? :p

(you said container!)

[Dai101]

To rip Blu-Rays: http://www.makemkv.com To rip DVDs: http://www.dvddecrypter.org.uk/ To encode the resulting rips: http://handbrake.fr/ To play anything: http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/

Fixed it

[Jake Tower]

Is there any way to hotwire DVD/Blu-ray players to skip this shit?

[encephalon]

It probably has less to do with education and more to do with being a precedent for legal action.

[LuchaShaq]

This type of nonsense like ads on blu rays you can't skip plus awful theater experiences are why if a movie isn't on netflix streaming it might as well not exist.

[grap3fruitman]

Is this in direct response to the recent article where disc based media sales are down? Things like this plus legimate services like Netflix, Hulu, Amazon and others are driving down those things. What's being blamed instead? Pirates! So let's introduce even more intrusive and annoying piracy messages in order to further push customers away so we can blame pirates even more and introduce even more intrusive items.

[Yoritomo]

Also MeGui is a far better encoder interface than Handbrake. It's has a shit ton more options but if you know what you're doing it's by far the best.

[Jason Raize '75 - '04]

Guys, it's 20 seconds. You probably spent more time typing out your anger and dismay. Yes, whilst this new development is ill conceived and worth criticism, it makes little sense to feel victimised over 20 seconds before the +90min movie begins.

[Aaron]

Guys, it's 20 seconds. You probably spent more time typing out your anger and dismay. Yes, whilst this new development is ill conceived and worth criticism, it makes little sense to feel victimised over 20 seconds before the +90min movie begins.

It makes even less sense to make your customers suffer, and drive them towards piracy.

[AlStrong]

Guys, it's 20 seconds. You probably spent more time typing out your anger and dismay. Yes, whilst this new development is ill conceived and worth criticism, it makes little sense to feel victimised over 20 seconds before the +90min movie begins.

Maybe they should get Michael Bay to direct those 20 seconds.

[Yoritomo]

I've ripped about 90% of my Blus so far (maybe 75 movies, 5-10 seasons of TV) and the only one that's caused any trouble with MakeMKV has been the PBS America in Primetime TV set, which didn't rip when I got it on release day. I haven't tried again since. DVD Decrypter has ripped all of my DVDs (250-300 seasons of TV, 200-250 movies). I'm not saying there aren't compatibility cases where AnyDVD wins, but I haven't run into them and I'm got a pretty fat collection. MakeMKV also has the benefit of being available on Mac. I don't want menus, video content extras rip fine. Admittedly I did not consider the case that anyone would want non-video extras or menus. Menus are, in and of themselves, the unskippable garbage being discussed above IMHO. Boot -> Click Play Movie -> Watch Movie is still an unnecessary intermediate step between Boot and Watch Movie. This is also true for MakeMKV.

You need AnyDVD if you're doing anything on a larger scale. Back when ClownBD was the only ripping interface they were the first to get around the BD+ updates and the first to reverse engineer the JVM that the protection ran under. DVD Decrypter was frozen and essentially banned prior to a bunch of ARCCOS protections and can't do shit against them.

I'm glad you've had success but to say "AnyDVD is a crippled piece of trialware with a hard upsell." is complete bullshit. Had you invested at the beginning in having an HTPC with a blu-ray player you'd know that you wouldn't have even been able to watch a handful of blu-rays right when BD+ hit on ANY software player for the PC. The best part of AnyDVD is I can stick any blu-ray in my HTPC right now and skip to the menus even if there are forced trailers or warning. They'll have something to bypass this new double warning without even ripping the blu-ray, just by running AnyDVD in the background. Which means any rentals that come in are easier to watch. One license purchase and it goes on every PC in the house.

[grap3fruitman]

Guys, it's 20 seconds. You probably spent more time typing out your anger and dismay. Yes, whilst this new development is ill conceived and worth criticism, it makes little sense to feel victimised over 20 seconds before the +90min movie begins.

What if Gaf had a disclaimer about trolling prior to you trying to make a post? How well would that go over? It'd certainly make a hilarious April Fool's joke.

[LuchaShaq]

Guys, it's 20 seconds. You probably spent more time typing out your anger and dismay. Yes, whilst this new development is ill conceived and worth criticism, it makes little sense to feel victimised over 20 seconds before the +90min movie begins.

I don't really care if it's 1 second.

I already have way more entertainment that I want to buy/watch/play/read than I could ever get to without winning the lottery and becoming a hermit who does nothing but play games/watch tv-movies, and read.

Anyone producing this content I want but also being a bunch of patronizing dicks goes to the very back of the purchase line.

[Andiie]

I've been watching some uk blu rays and I was shocked when they actually thank you for supporting their industry. I don't know how long that's been around but it's an appreciated change from the constant 'don't pirate this' BS.

[kevm3]

Guys, it's 20 seconds. You probably spent more time typing out your anger and dismay. Yes, whilst this new development is ill conceived and worth criticism, it makes little sense to feel victimised over 20 seconds before the +90min movie begins.

Only 20 seconds? Why should paying customers be punished with ads and piracy warnings when they PAID?

[bloodydrake]

Those settings for my old HDDVD collection, DVD's and Blurays make it worth its weight in gold.
I as well rip eveything to my Nas but there are times when I rent/borrow/someone brings over a disk to watch..AnyDVD HD makes sure I never have to suffer thru applicance mode disk playback.

[ReBurn]

I feel much safer now.

[NullPointer]

It makes even less sense to make your customers suffer, and drive them towards piracy.

Yep. They are well and truly asking for it.

Pro tip to content owners: If you want to combat piracy, make your product more convenient than the pirated version. If thats impossible for you, get out of the business as your mind is too narrow for present and emergent realities.

Guys, it's 20 seconds.

So is a TSA groping pat-down. And in both cases the customer is presumed to be a threat.

Its funny how pirated materials are the only ones that treat their consumers with respect.

[Loofy]

The only thing I miss about VHS, you can fast forward through all the crap.

Am I missing something here? You can fast forward through the fbi messages. You just cant skip them using scene skip.

And seriously people.
"Another warning?!?! this is the reason why Im pirating movies."
Yeah.. ok.

[C4Lukins]

This is so annoying. Just give us one hardcore 5 second warning.

"This is the FBI, if you fucking pirate this movie or try to make money off of it, we will prosecute you, and if that fails we will simply murder your ass. Enjoy the fucking film."

Done.

[Gooster]

[mattp]

Am I missing something here? You can fast forward through the fbi messages. You just cant skip them using scene skip. And seriously people. "Another warning?!?! this is the reason why Im pirating movies." Yeah.. ok.

no you cant
you also cant skip the trailers and ads usually either

[a Master Ninja]

Tested.com is right. I pay good money on blurays to get the "best experience" and pirates get a significantly better experience and pay nothing. That's bullshit.

[iammeiam]

This is the most desperate anti-piracy advert I've seen.

Buy your DVDs! Because downloading them takes too long.

[Loofy]

no you cant you also cant skip the trailers and ads usually either

Yea you can. And movies trailers you can always fastforward and scene skip. At least with blu ray.

[AllenShrz]

That is why I try to avoid purchasing Blu Rays and DVD from the US.

[Monocle]

This is idiotic. I resent being admonished every time I watch a movie I've legitimately purchased. It's like being followed around a store by an employee with a megaphone.

"YOU SHOULDN'T STEAL THINGS. ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE NOT THINKING OF STEALING THAT ITEM? YOU'LL GET IN TROUBLE IF YOU DO. STEALING IS BAD. THANK YOU FOR SHOPPING WITH US, YOU SHIFTY-EYED SCUMBAG."

The only thing those warning screens will do is make pirating an even more attractive option.

[Oozer3993]

As far as I know, none of my Blu-rays are like this. Just last night, I popped in Toy Story 3 and as soon as the first preview started (before any FBI warning had reared it's head), a little menu popped up at the bottom of the screen letting me know I could hit "Top Menu" to skip all the previews. I watched my Dark Knight Blu-ray the other night, and it didn't even have that. It started the movie up immediately. No previews, no menu, just straight to the movie.

[smr00]

It makes even less sense to make your customers suffer, and drive them towards piracy.

suffer? it's 20 fucking seconds.

pop it in and go get a soda or water or piss or whatever it's 20 goddamn seconds.. we live in a world with all this great technology and we have video quality that is so crystal clear and tvs that produce vivid colors and you are going to bitch about 20 goddamn seconds? seriously wtf is wrong with this world? god forbid you wait 20 seconds before watching a movie, do you also cry and bitch about the 15 minutes of forced crap before seeing a movie in the theater?


20 seconds doesn't drive people to piracy, it's an excuse for scumbags to pirate. oh i have to wait 20 seconds to watch a movie in this magical format on a tv i didn't think could exist 20 years ago? I BETTER GO STEAL MOVIES! i said it before and i will say it again, people are self entitled and demand everything to be given to them instantly. Would be nice to be able to skip it? yes, would it be nice to have them not even there? sure but it's 20 seconds.. it's like using the argument that i don't have money to buy this dvd so i will just illegally download it and watch it, it's a BULLSHIT excuse.

[C4Lukins]

This is idiotic. I resent being admonished every time I watch a movie I've legitimately purchased. It's like being followed around a store by an employee with a megaphone. "YOU SHOULDN'T STEAL THINGS. ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE NOT THINKING OF STEALING THAT ITEM? YOU'LL GET IN TROUBLE IF YOU DO. STEALING IS BAD. THANK YOU FOR SHOPPING WITH US, YOU SHIFTY-EYED SCUMBAG." The only thing those warning screens will do is make pirating an even more attractive option.

It is annoying but you are taking it a bit far. I would prefer the South Park opening to all films, but it is not all that reasonable.

I doubt 20 seconds of warning messages is going to cause anyone to pirate. Again I agree it is annoying, but it is not so invasive that I would go all anarchist on the movie industry. It takes more time for me to load up an XBLA game, and I do not even get the FBI warning to read while I am waiting.

[Gentleman Jack]

Guys, it's 20 seconds. You probably spent more time typing out your anger and dismay. Yes, whilst this new development is ill conceived and worth criticism, it makes little sense to feel victimised over 20 seconds before the +90min movie begins.

I don't tolerate even one second of someone treating me like a criminal, or an idiot.

[RDreamer]

They should use this one. It was on a Pain of Salvation DVD.

[NullPointer]

Just put the warning on a throwaway paper insert inside the case. Done. No fuss, no muss, no equivocating. Anything else is purposefully designed to annoy.