Chichikov
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Originally Posted by Oblivion: View Post
I agree with you, but the thing is, Bashir's not a Bible thumper. Barton IS (or at least claims).
You don't need to be a bible thumper in order to read the full chapter you're quoting.
Especially when it's 10 verses long.
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I absolutely cannot believe that someone can actually claim that harnessing wind power "slows the wind down". I know he doesn't actually believe that, but that's just a completely absurd thing to say.
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Originally Posted by ElectricBlue187: View Post
one moron to another, how did that gas get under dere?
uh well theres plates and shit I dunno really
so god put it there not us?
uh wtf do you think asshole
What was wrong with the energy secretary's answer? It's not like he had anywhere remotely close to enough time to explain how the oil got under Alaska, unless there's something I'm missing.
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Oh I never realized the quote is actually of Ancient Greek. So they have basically been quoting Athena's worshiper in defense of what they think is Christian? :p
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Originally Posted by Mr. Saturn: View Post
What was wrong with the energy secretary's answer? It's not like he had anywhere remotely close to enough time to explain how the oil got under Alaska, unless there's something I'm missing.
he obviously wasn't prepared to answer that question and it showed
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Originally Posted by ElectricBlue187: View Post
he obviously wasn't prepared to answer that question and it showed
It's pretty obvious Chu was flabbergast that's such a stupid question was asked, not that he didn't know the answer.
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GOP
Chichikov
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Originally Posted by massoluk: View Post
Oh I never realized the quote is actually of Ancient Greek.
It's an old testament quote, so it's Hebrew.
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Originally Posted by Chichikov: View Post
It's an old testament quote, so it's Hebrew.
He was talking about "The Lord helps those who helps themselves".
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Originally Posted by Chichikov: View Post
It's an old testament quote, so it's Hebrew.
If you're talking about the "Lord helps those. . . . ", it's not in the Bible at all.
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Originally Posted by Willy105: View Post
Amazing.
Even more amazing is that Barton puts his exchange with Dr. Chu up on his youtube.com site as if he stumped Dr. Chu.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgKepHebKRc

Apparently Barton thinks plate tectonics is another one of those science hoaxes?

Uh yeah, Joe, oil is formed in temperate zones and it got up to Alaska by drifting plates. Polar regions are not actually great places to find oil because the oil often escapes (or partially escapes like the tar sands) before it gets there or it gets cooked into natural gas.
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Originally Posted by SoulPlaya: View Post
If you're talking about the "Lord helps those. . . . ", it's not in the Bible at all.
Oh, I thought he was talking about the Psalms quote, my bad.
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Originally Posted by ElectricBlue187: View Post
he obviously wasn't prepared to answer that question and it showed
He gave a fully correct answer. What did you expect him to do, go into a 2 hour lecture on how oil is formed and plate tectonics?
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I know what it is like to be a starving child. But I worked my ass off in the coal mines, and didn't complain and now I am a wallstreet executive!
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Originally Posted by massoluk: View Post
Oh I never realized the quote is actually of Ancient Greek. So they have basically been quoting Athena's worshiper in defense of what they think is Christian? :p
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_hel...elp_themselves
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#66

SHOCKING NEWS
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Originally Posted by Obsessed: View Post
I know what it is like to be a starving child. But I worked my ass off in the coal mines, and didn't complain and now I am a wallstreet executive!
God helped ya!!!!
speculawyer
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#68

Joe Barton is truly a loathesome politician. He is such a stereotype of a boss hog politician with pandering on social issues and collecting campaign donations due to sweetheart legislation to companies. A corrupt demagogue.
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A huge portion of American Christendom is fucked up due to an unholy union with certain aspects of conservatism.

Originally Posted by Matthew 19:24:
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
That does not gel with Christian fat cats running multi-million dollar mega-churches and preaching "prosperity gospel" bullshit, all while still exhorting their congregations to give them more money.
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Originally Posted by Orayn: View Post
A huge portion of American Christendom is fucked up due to an unholy union with certain aspects of conservatism.



That does not gel with Christian fat cats running multi-million dollar mega-churches and preaching "prosperity gospel" bullshit, all while still exhorting their congregations to give them more money.
Well that's the main problem...the mega churches and independent evangelical churches. Not all of them. But a lot of them. The focus is on a charismatic preacher who can basically interpret the Bible however he wants based upon what his congregation wants to hear. There's no doctrinal foundation, which is a bit of a problem, and leads to crap like the "prosperity gospel" you mentioned, and the God helps those who helps themselves fuck poor people idea that was in the OP.
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According to his Wiki page he plays Civ IV, but ya still a scumbag.
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Originally Posted by ElectricBlue187: View Post
he obviously wasn't prepared to answer that question and it showed
You try to explain a process that takes thousands/millions of years in 6 seconds.

Who the hell prepares themself for such a task?

I'm sure he was caught off guard and was trying to dumb it down as quickly as possible yet still make sense. It was tough.
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#73

Its amazing how stupid people can really be........
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Originally Posted by speculawyer: View Post
Joe Barton is truly a loathesome politician. He is such a stereotype of a boss hog politician with pandering on social issues and collecting campaign donations due to sweetheart legislation to companies. A corrupt demagogue.
Yeah he's pretty cartoonish.
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Originally Posted by UFRA: View Post
You try to explain a process that takes thousands/millions of years in 6 seconds.
First the earth cooled. And then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they all died and they turned into oil. And then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes. And Prince Charles started wearing all of Lady Di's clothes. I couldn't believe it.
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#76

He's wrong, an asshole, and his policy decisions are terrible.

That said, nowhere in the quoted exchange does the Congressman claim that his statement is a quote from the Bible. Title is inaccurate.
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Originally Posted by Chumly: View Post
Its amazing how stupid people can really be........
I assume you're referring to his constituents. I'm sure he's just more corrupt and evil than he is genuinely stupid. Maybe both, I dunno.
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#78

The saddest part of this is that list of 8 stupid things he said probably increased his electability in his district drastically.
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Originally Posted by Orayn: View Post
That does not gel with Christian fat cats running multi-million dollar mega-churches and preaching "prosperity gospel" bullshit, all while still exhorting their congregations to give them more money.
USA's Christianity is pretty funny. MTV's Sweet 16 actually had a daughter of a pastor throwing a party. They aren't even ashamed. Though I'm not sure how seriously I should take that show.
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#80

This man makes me feel ill.
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Originally Posted by speculawyer: View Post
He gave a fully correct answer. What did you expect him to do, go into a 2 hour lecture on how oil is formed and plate tectonics?
No he could've said "it comes from creatures and plants that died millions of years ago deep underground with heat and pressure and a lack of oxygen" but Barton would be like YOUNG EARTH CREATIONISM and then hilarity would ensue I'm sure.
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Originally Posted by ElectricBlue187: View Post
No he could've said "it comes from creatures and plants that died millions of years ago deep underground with heat and pressure and a lack of oxygen" but Barton would be like YOUNG EARTH CREATIONISM and then hilarity would ensue I'm sure.
He still accurately answered the question.

If Barton wanted a more precise answer as to how oil and gas are formed then he should have asked that. Instead he asked how oil and gas arrived under alaska.

He asked a question, got a direct (yet simplified) answer, and then decided to post his ignorant ass getting owned on youtube as if he was the victor.

He was literally too stupid to realize that his question was answered.
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Originally Posted by EnderWiggles: View Post
Originally Posted by ElectricBlue187: View Post
No he could've said "it comes from creatures and plants that died millions of years ago deep underground with heat and pressure and a lack of oxygen" but Barton would be like YOUNG EARTH CREATIONISM and then hilarity would ensue I'm sure.
Did you even watch the video at the link? Despite what he titled the video, Barton actually asked "How did all the oil and gas get to Alaska and under the Arctic Ocean?"
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Originally Posted by Orayn: View Post
A huge portion of American Christendom is fucked up due to an unholy union with certain aspects of conservatism.
Most right-wing American Christendom is heretical if you follow what the Bible and more specifically the New Testament say. What about "The last will be the first, and the first will be the last"?
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#85

Originally Posted by EnderWiggles: View Post
Wow, I feel like I can actually see the stupid in his eyes
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Originally Posted by Atolm: View Post
Most right-wing American Christendom is heretical if you follow what the Bible and more specifically the New Testament say. What about "The last will be the first, and the first will be the last"?
Yeah, the political right has adopted a position that is directly counter to Jesus'.

With that said, this thread title is entirely inaccurate.
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Originally Posted by Kinyou: View Post
Wow, I feel like I can actually see the stupid in his eyes
Yeah I take back what I said. He comes off as legit dumb.
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#88

i remember this

jesus cloned like hundred loaves of bread and fish

then was all "yo make your own shit if oyu wan to eat"

then the fat ass ate all the fish and bread


oh wait
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Originally Posted by speculawyer: View Post
Even more amazing is that Barton puts his exchange with Dr. Chu up on his youtube.com site as if he stumped Dr. Chu.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgKepHebKRc
WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST WATCH?

WHAT THE FUCK TEXAS!

You have a lot of explaining to do Texans. I'm VERY disappointed.
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#90

I've heard that saying several times, it may not be in the bible but it has roots in the church.
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Originally Posted by oxrock: View Post
I've heard that saying several times, it may not be in the bible but it has roots in the church.
Yeah, the church of Athena

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_hel...elp_themselves
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#92

Originally Posted by oxrock: View Post
I've heard that saying several times, it may not be in the bible but it has roots in the church.
It was in Assassin's Creed.

I remember sneaking around in Acre, I think, and these two guys below me were having a conversation.

One of them said, "Oh well, you know what it says in the good book. The lord helps those who help themselves."

And the other guy says, "Nope, that's not in the Bible at all, actually."

I'm paraphrasing, of course. Weird that the son of a preacher would live by a quote that is not evidenced in the holy book of the religion he claims to follow.
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Originally Posted by marrec: View Post
WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST WATCH?

WHAT THE FUCK TEXAS!

You have a lot of explaining to do Texans. I'm VERY disappointed.
Is this really that surprising coming from the state that gave us George Bush and Rick Perry?
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#94

Who did he give a handy to get this job?
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Ugh. No words.
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Originally Posted by Gattsu25: View Post
With that said, this thread title is entirely inaccurate.
Wrong. We've explained why earlier in the thread.
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Originally Posted by Akainu: View Post
Who did he give a handy to get this job?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ou5qEdiGpU


Last edited by speculawyer; 05-11-2012 at 07:56 AM.
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Originally Posted by Akainu: View Post
Who did he give a handy to get this job?
I agree with the man though, don't you just hate wind power? Stop harnessing it people! Remember there's enough oil to go around well after you pass away old man.
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Originally Posted by teruterubozu: View Post
Never read either of them. Like I said, who cares about this shit (only morons do).
Who cares about wanting an honest reason as to why they want to cut funds to feed starving children?
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Originally Posted by Like the hat?: View Post
Who cares about wanting an honest reason as to why they want to cut funds to feed starving children?
So you're satisfied with his ridiculous explanation? Are you really interested in his illogical statements and concerned about how his feeble mind operates?