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(05-11-2012, 09:56 AM)
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#102
Originally Posted by zoukka:
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(05-11-2012, 10:05 AM)
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#105
Originally Posted by zoukka:
It was a joke anyway, one thing (Norway church burnings) can't be compared with the other (US president's GBA) |
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(05-11-2012, 11:06 AM)
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#106
Originally Posted by zoukka:
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(05-11-2012, 11:25 AM)
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#107
Originally Posted by Dunan:
I may probably wrong and it might have been used earlier but i can only do so much googling at work. |
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(05-11-2012, 11:59 AM)
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#108
Originally Posted by DY_nasty:
Anyway, this is pretty terrifying to read. Further evidence as to why the reality is that countries such as the US really are the biggest potential threats to world peace. Many countries these days have the big guns, but I'm not sure any would be as quick to use them as the US (besides Israel maybe). Fire this Luitenant, FBI personel etc and any and all people related to this course, it's teachings or it's creation. I have to admit, I'm pretty freaked out after reading the OP.
Last edited by nib95; 05-11-2012 at 12:04 PM.
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His head smashed in and his heart cut out and his liver removed and his bowels unplugged and his nostrils raped and his bottom burned off and his penis...
(05-11-2012, 12:02 PM)
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#110
Originally Posted by astroturfing:
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(05-11-2012, 12:31 PM)
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#113
Originally Posted by SmokyDave:
imagine if the roles were reversed, imagine if Americans learned that an Iranian official taught courses about how American cities should be nuked to bring an end to the American empire. people would absolutely lose their shit and there would be even more calls to turn Iran into a parking lot... god, i cannot fucking stand the tendency of us humans to so easily succumb to "us vs them" thinking.. shit ruins everything. |
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(05-11-2012, 12:43 PM)
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#115
Originally Posted by astroturfing:
This isn't new and it certainly won't surprise the majority of muslims. All it does is play into the hands of terrorists, "look, they want to nuke our most holiest of sites", yadda, yadda, yadda. |
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(05-11-2012, 12:58 PM)
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#116
Originally Posted by K701:
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(05-11-2012, 01:26 PM)
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#117
Originally Posted by Tim the Wiz:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1227889.html http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...n-muslims?lite http://www.aaiusa.org/blog/entry/pen...bic-materials/ These types of training for hate and Islamaphobia keeps coming up time and time again. The US government keeps "stopping" it, but they return again and again. These aren't isolated. At all. |
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(05-11-2012, 01:30 PM)
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#118
Originally Posted by nib95:
NO They've brainwashed youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu be more transparent, guy. half of your arguments work just as good when you turn the tables. Fox isn't the only news agency with a spin.
Originally Posted by phosphor112:
You'll see isolated incidents exactly like this. Yes. But will some splinter faction organize a rebellion and take part of India? No. If the Cold War didn't lead us off a cliff, neither will this.
Last edited by DY_nasty; 05-11-2012 at 01:34 PM.
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(05-11-2012, 01:34 PM)
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#120
Originally Posted by DY_nasty:
Took them long enough to even pick up on it, but when they finally did, you can be damn sure they did what they could to downplay, attack or defame it. But of course they would. |
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(05-11-2012, 01:42 PM)
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#121
Ridiculous that he was allowed do to this for so long.
Originally Posted by nib95:
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(05-11-2012, 01:51 PM)
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#122
Originally Posted by DY_nasty:
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I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
(05-11-2012, 01:54 PM)
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#124
The worst part about this is that people in the Middle East will get wind of this and it will further the conspiracy theories that are already so prevalent over there.
I mean, it's SCARY AS FUCK that some asshole like this can teach ANY course in the military. This is absolutely reprehensible, and the man should not be allowed to participate in the defense of the country anymore in any kind of mode.
Originally Posted by DY_nasty:
Those were pretty dark times, and America acted like a massive douche during it. We had someone as delusional as Reagan with his finger able to push the button. The Cold War was completely fucked.
Last edited by BobsRevenge; 05-11-2012 at 01:58 PM.
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#125
Originally Posted by phosphor112:
I'm saying that if the military and government were going to have gone crazy, it'd have been then - at the most hectic time in history. Every war, conflict, tense period has been littered with isolated instances such as these. But really? Is that how you nitpick an argument to flip things? At least go grab an article and force others to waste their time with it. |
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I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
(05-11-2012, 02:01 PM)
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#126
Originally Posted by DY_nasty:
I do agree with you that this will be isolated and not lead to much of anything, though. |
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(05-11-2012, 02:27 PM)
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#130
Originally Posted by DY_nasty:
Yes, during the cold war, there was a lot of fear-mongering and "hunting Reds" but for the past decade plus, the US alone has been doing that. It's done exactly this with actions, and not rhetoric. More people have weapons now than people did then, not to mention that the world economy is dropping faster than a thong on prom night. No one is happy in Europe, and the majority of people here are fucking pissed. The Middle East is turning into one massive crater that the west certainly had a hand in. Russia also doesn't like the fact a missile shield is being put right outside their front porch (and in result it's caused the Military there to mobilize and build similar structures there). I can keep going. The world is less stable now than it has been in the past. |
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(05-11-2012, 02:35 PM)
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#131
What's rather disturbing about this isn't so much as the Muslim angle, but the capacity to simplify people into a label, a figure, a symbol that lacks a face or a personhood. That type of black and white perspective on life is often associated with the villains of history. Whether your motive is God, or politics, racial, nationalistic, or gang related, we as a species seem to have this trait in where we can morally justify mass indiscriminate killing to address the 'wrongs' and 'evils' in the world. The fact that we can find this attitude in a US military academy isn't as shocking as it is ironic; you could probably find a lot of psychological similarities between the organises of this class and the most ardent of terrorist. What is sad though is this level of militancy in our world and I'm beginning to realise its just inherent to us and will ultimately be a factor for our demise.
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(05-11-2012, 02:38 PM)
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#132
Not really surprising is it...
I'd say in general Americans have an alarmist attitude towards Islam...and this program is well placed to plant more seeds and allow for more growth of hostility. For example the anti-Ground Zero mosque, anti-Murfreesboro Mosque, initial reports of the Oklahoma City bombing were linked to muslims and middle-east. Most recently Shaima Alawadi being murdered...some have later tried to link it to honour killing... So is it really all that surprising that government depts are teaching hate...the seeds already exist... |
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His head smashed in and his heart cut out and his liver removed and his bowels unplugged and his nostrils raped and his bottom burned off and his penis...
(05-11-2012, 02:42 PM)
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#133
Originally Posted by F#A#Oo:
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(05-11-2012, 03:36 PM)
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#138
Originally Posted by SmokyDave:
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(05-11-2012, 03:50 PM)
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#140
Originally Posted by phosphor112:
The world has always been unstable. It just didn't have internet and nearly as many cameras. There hasn't been a single rainbow period in history. |
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(05-11-2012, 04:11 PM)
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#141
Originally Posted by DY_nasty:
The Eurozone is on the brink of collapse with riots in countries all over the place. No one is falling for that Austerity bullshit that the money grabbers are trying to pass off as something that would fix the economy. Middle East is on the brink of absolute chaos, more so than ever (which is saying something since that place has been a shithole for decades). The secular violence is at an all time high. It doesn't help that Israel has created a coalition. A political move that hasn't been done since 1967, just before the 6 day war. Antagonizing a country that has a right to nuclear power. How many countries in the middle east STILL have a functioning government? How many are trying to shoot down national dissidents? It's an unprecedented amount. How are you downplaying this? This isn't a "we have more communication these days, so it appears to be worse than it is" this is a "this is worse than it has been in history" situation. |
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(05-11-2012, 04:23 PM)
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#142
Originally Posted by phosphor112:
Global tension is not new, guy. You think its bad now, what about when Israel was actually fuckin created? come on - get some perspective and context on shit outside of the last decade or two. And again, how far away are you from "People get crazy during wartime and conflicts"? |
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(05-11-2012, 04:51 PM)
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#144
I think this is disgusting and wrong.
That being said I love how the US is now the country which everyone hates muslims. Especially since I'm assuming most of that vitriol comes from Europe. Which has anti-islamic parties in government, wining 20 percent of the vote, Neo-Nazi parties in parliment and countries which ban burkas, ban minarets, have presidents talking about banning halal food. We have crazies like this who are looked down upon. Yes we have flare ups like the koran burning, sharia law, ground zero (which our president supported by the way) but so do other nations. We have Islamic countries that are struggling with their own non-muslim minorities. These problems come from a rapidly globalizing world in which people from different cultures are coming into contact with each other, problems are bound to exist, we just need to fix them. I think questions about how he got to teach this class, if anyone knew and how long it continued are fair and correct. I think this is a problem for the Army and something it needs to fix but to turn this into the"US being the US they're just like hitler!" is stupid. |
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I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
(05-11-2012, 04:55 PM)
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#145
Originally Posted by phosphor112:
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(05-11-2012, 05:10 PM)
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#147
1st: how the fuck on earth this goes unnoticed by miltary higher ups? And why is the miltary employing such assholes for teaching? I thought US miltary had some standards,so much for billion dollar budgets..
2nd: this is like giving cake to the radicals on a silver platter,because they already believe these are the true intentions of the west,we just gave them proof to proove their bs...this and a last few incidents like the accidental quran burning are so counterproductive,they reverse all the gains made against al qaeeda in the last two years,giving its propaganda life support it desperately requires these days... Worst part is,the investigation wont bear much fruit and this Dooley nut will just walk free,probably |
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#148
Hypocrisy and irony at it's finest.
Coming from a country which spends much of it's budget on military and weapons development and has been involved in just about every major conflict in the past century. One thing I don't understand is when I see reports of American citizens attacking Muslims for simply being Muslim, yet consider Islam a 'violent threat' to the country. Funny how that works? |
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#149
Originally Posted by phosphor112:
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