Imm0rt4l
my titty out of milk
(08-17-2012, 10:40 PM)

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#4451

It is pure Hollywood, I'd like to think that she can make a good enough performance, aside from the slight colorism, I can't say that it couldn't ever work as I haven't seen her in any sort of oscar baitish roles ever. I don't so much have a problem with them choosing a pretty black chick, but can she provide something substantive? I guess we'll have to wait and see, but I don't have high expectations at all....probably would have been better off with Mary J Blige.


besides

it could be worse..


There was this documentary I saw a few months back about Hollywood where during the 50's many white women played black women who were passing. It was interesting seeing these white women proclaiming"I'm a colored woman", the actor opposite being surprised, and the white woman subsequently being slapped around after being found out. It was interesting. The concept of Passing, is pretty interesting, guys like J. Edgar Hoover.
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DominoKid
Geocities gawdamn :(
(08-17-2012, 11:01 PM)

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#4452

Originally Posted by Zeus Molecules: View Post
I knew it when it the album came out and they said Nas, Jay Elect, and Stic Man were in the studio working on the album together. That means it was a collab. It should be a non issue but Nas dropped a great album in "life is good" and it's dirt.... Even of it's old, dirt gets page views.



Welcome to my life.
oh im sure Nas was in the studio when Jay wrote it...probably munching on some Cheetos saying "yeah thats hot" as Jay spit it to him. i guess thats a collab lol.
harSon
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(08-18-2012, 12:49 AM)

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#4453

Originally Posted by Kitschkraft: View Post
Pure Hollywood horseshit and calculative, oscar-chasing on her behalf.

She doesn't look the part. I've never heard her sing. Isn't a particularly good actress.

Also, she seems dumb, conceited, and completely lacking in social awareness :

Come on now.

Edit : LOL @ the thought of her being able to do a song like this honestly.
Yeah, I was going to post the same interview. There's a reason the majority of successful black actresses in Hollywood are light skinned and/or mixed, and contain some European features Zoe.
Imm0rt4l
my titty out of milk
(08-18-2012, 12:52 AM)

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#4454

dat colorism



women got it worse than men in that regard.
harSon
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(08-18-2012, 12:57 AM)

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#4455

Originally Posted by Imm0rt4l: View Post
dat colorism



women got it worse than men in that regard.
Definitely.

Unfortunately for me as a light skinned dude, it seems our dark skinned brothers are making a come back.

Thanks a lot Idris....
ViewtifulJC
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(08-18-2012, 01:44 AM)

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#4456

Fuck you Idris, Denzel, and most importantly, Wesley Snipes. He got the ball rollin' after he stabbed Al B Sure-looking banker in New Jack City as it's been dowhhill for us lightskin dudes ever since.
Devolution
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(08-18-2012, 02:17 AM)

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#4457

Originally Posted by Kitschkraft: View Post
Pure Hollywood horseshit and calculative, oscar-chasing on her behalf.

She doesn't look the part. I've never heard her sing. Isn't a particularly good actress.

Also, she seems dumb, conceited, and completely lacking in social awareness :





Come on now.

Edit : LOL @ the thought of her being able to do a song like this honestly.
Whoa she said that? Uhm, wow.
ReiGun
They call me "Mr Soap"
(08-18-2012, 02:20 AM)

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#4458

Originally Posted by Kitschkraft: View Post
Pure Hollywood horseshit and calculative, oscar-chasing on her behalf.

She doesn't look the part. I've never heard her sing. Isn't a particularly good actress.

Also, she seems dumb, conceited, and completely lacking in social awareness :
Damn Zoe. Smh.


Originally Posted by harSon: View Post
Definitely.

Unfortunately for me as a light skinned dude, it seems our dark skinned brothers are making a come back.

Thanks a lot Idris....
Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC: View Post
Fuck you Idris, Denzel, and most importantly, Wesley Snipes. He got the ball rollin' after he stabbed Al B Sure-looking banker in New Jack City as it's been dowhhill for us lightskin dudes ever since.
Stay salty, my friends. What did y'all think was gonna happen when you start letting guys like Drake and C. Breezy come to the fore-front? You could have stopped this.
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Devolution
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(08-18-2012, 02:22 AM)

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#4459

Viola Davis should slap her.
harSon
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(08-18-2012, 02:51 AM)

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#4460

Originally Posted by Devolution: View Post
Viola Davis should slap her.
I lost respect for Viola after The Help. And Octavia Spencer's sassy mammy pissed me the fuck off.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
(08-18-2012, 03:03 AM)

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#4461

Originally Posted by Kitschkraft: View Post
Pure Hollywood horseshit and calculative, oscar-chasing on her behalf.

She doesn't look the part. I've never heard her sing. Isn't a particularly good actress.

Also, she seems dumb, conceited, and completely lacking in social awareness :





Come on now.

Edit : LOL @ the thought of her being able to do a song like this honestly.
We have a black president is getting old. that was some dumb shit on her part.
ViewtifulJC
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(08-18-2012, 03:03 AM)

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#4462

Oh man, all those damn Oscar discussions about The Help, is it racist, is it not racist, if Meryl Streep wins against over Viola Davis is this racist, is this any good, magical white people helping black people, magical black people helping white people, goddamn it was relentless for a good minute.
harSon
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(08-18-2012, 03:04 AM)

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#4463

I've hated few movies more than The Help.

It's the culmination of everything I hate about Hollywood. Only thing it was missing was Maryl Streep as Mammy.
ViewtifulJC
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(08-18-2012, 03:22 AM)

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#4464

That whole female actress race last year was so crazy. And we had Rooney Mara in another one of those "trasformative" movie roles in The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. A woman that adorable lookin' like that is a travesty.

Imm0rt4l
my titty out of milk
(08-18-2012, 03:33 AM)

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#4465

Yea, she did the damn thing though. I actually liked the American version more.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
(08-18-2012, 03:35 AM)

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#4466

Originally Posted by DominoKid: View Post
oh im sure Nas was in the studio when Jay wrote it...probably munching on some Cheetos saying "yeah thats hot" as Jay spit it to him. i guess thats a collab lol.
if you pay to provide the pens, papers, and cheetos damn right you can call it a collabo. Thats the American Hip Hop Way.
DominoKid
Geocities gawdamn :(
(08-18-2012, 04:00 AM)

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#4467

Originally Posted by ViewtifulJC: View Post
That whole female actress race last year was so crazy. And we had Rooney Mara in another one of those "trasformative" movie roles in The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. A woman that adorable lookin' like that is a travesty.


Kate mara is best mara
Devolution
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(08-18-2012, 04:17 AM)

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#4468

Originally Posted by harSon: View Post
I've hated few movies more than The Help.

It's the culmination of everything I hate about Hollywood. Only thing it was missing was Maryl Streep as Mammy.
She was talking about it on Tavis Smiley with the other co-star and it was a pretty good discussion/debate.

http://video.pbs.org/video/2194955259/
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
(08-18-2012, 04:50 AM)

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#4469

Wow @ Zoe. The whole, "your president is black, therefor, you should have no problems getting work" bullshit is tired and...bullshit.

I admire the tenacity, but some things should be left unsaid.

Edit: I don't know enough about the industry. I should know more, considering the line of work I've been progressing towards, but...why isn't there more of a variety in black roles and directors? With so much access to cameras nowadays, people can't fund themselves or each other?
Slayven
gimme some o dat God-crafted alabaster greatness
(08-18-2012, 06:39 AM)

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#4470

I want a movie where magical black people and magical whites try to fix shit but gets it wrong. Only for a magical Asian to correct them
Gorillaz
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(08-18-2012, 06:53 AM)

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#4471

Originally Posted by Oldschoolgamer: View Post
Wow @ Zoe. The whole, "your president is black, therefor, you should have no problems getting work" bullshit is tired and...bullshit.

I admire the tenacity, but some things should be left unsaid.

Edit: I don't know enough about the industry. I should know more, considering the line of work I've been progressing towards, but...why isn't there more of a variety in black roles and directors? With so much access to cameras nowadays, people can't fund themselves or each other?
It's kind of a grey area but it's almost like the black community doesn't want certain types of films but doesn't want to always be labeled under a "comedy" or a "tyler perry" style of movie

what I said might not make sense.....Idk how to express it tho.
Devolution
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(08-18-2012, 06:57 AM)

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#4472

Originally Posted by Oldschoolgamer: View Post
Edit: I don't know enough about the industry. I should know more, considering the line of work I've been progressing towards, but...why isn't there more of a variety in black roles and directors? With so much access to cameras nowadays, people can't fund themselves or each other?
Short answer: A lot of production money is held by white people. There are great films being made but no distribution or lack of promotion. And definitely no studio bankrolls. So there are scores of indie films but no hollywood made big productions other than Eddie Murphy/Martin Lawrence/Tyler Perry shit.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pariah_2011/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/medi...or_melancholy/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/night_catches_us/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/i_will_follow/
Last edited by Devolution; 08-18-2012 at 07:03 AM.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
(08-18-2012, 08:29 AM)

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#4473

Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
I want a movie where magical black people and magical whites try to fix shit but gets it wrong. Only for a magical Asian to correct them
Take out the magic white and black people and it sounds like the rush hour series.

However If it does exist Jackie Chan starred in it.
Kreed
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(08-18-2012, 03:07 PM)

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#4474

Originally Posted by Kitschkraft: View Post
Pure Hollywood horseshit and calculative, oscar-chasing on her behalf.

She doesn't look the part. I've never heard her sing. Isn't a particularly good actress.

Also, she seems dumb, conceited, and completely lacking in social awareness :
The "we have a black president" comment wouldn't be so bad if it was coming from a black actress other than Zoe, or any other black actress that doesn't fit the "Hollywood/USA beauty mold". Zoe and others with her "advantages" should recognize that they aren't landing roles just because they are going into auditions and "doing their best". It's like Mitt Romney saying anyone who can't make a 100,000 dollar bet at their leisure should just get off their asses and work hard with a positive attitude (wouldn't be surprised if he actually said this).

Originally Posted by Devolution: View Post
Short answer: A lot of production money is held by white people. There are great films being made but no distribution or lack of promotion. And definitely no studio bankrolls. So there are scores of indie films but no hollywood made big productions other than Eddie Murphy/Martin Lawrence/Tyler Perry shit.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pariah_2011/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/medi...or_melancholy/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/night_catches_us/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/i_will_follow/
Speaking of which, has anyone here seen or heard of Beasts of the Southern Wild? It's only available in limited screens in my state but I'm tempted to hunt down a theater showing it and see it.
RedSwirl
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(08-18-2012, 03:12 PM)

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#4475

Originally Posted by Imm0rt4l: View Post
Yea, she did the damn thing though. I actually liked the American version more.
I liked the American version more overall as well, but preferred Noomi Rapace.
Slayven
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(08-18-2012, 06:31 PM)

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#4476

This might be Gaf-Racist, but I wish more blacks and minorities in general get into all industries. Especially comics, films, and novels. And super especially the fantasy and scifi genres.
Oldschoolgamer
The physical form of blasphemy
(08-18-2012, 07:10 PM)

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#4477

Originally Posted by Gorillaz: View Post
It's kind of a grey area but it's almost like the black community doesn't want certain types of films but doesn't want to always be labeled under a "comedy" or a "tyler perry" style of movie

what I said might not make sense.....Idk how to express it tho.
Nah, I most definitely get where you're coming from.

Originally Posted by Devolution: View Post
Short answer: A lot of production money is held by white people. There are great films being made but no distribution or lack of promotion. And definitely no studio bankrolls. So there are scores of indie films but no hollywood made big productions other than Eddie Murphy/Martin Lawrence/Tyler Perry shit.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pariah_2011/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/medi...or_melancholy/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/night_catches_us/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/i_will_follow/
Damn, I haven't heard of a single one of these films...

Thanks.

Anymore I should be aware of? Horror, Action, whatever. Doesn't matter.

Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
This might be Gaf-Racist, but I wish more blacks and minorities in general get into all industries. Especially comics, films, and novels. And super especially the fantasy and scifi genres.
I don't think it is. Nothing wrong with wanting to see more diversity.
Htown
STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
(08-18-2012, 08:06 PM)

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#4478

Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
Especially comics, films, and novels. And super especially the fantasy and scifi genres.
Gonna put Deep Space Nine on repeat and watch it forever.

PS Fuck Marvel.
ReiGun
They call me "Mr Soap"
(08-18-2012, 08:23 PM)

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#4479

Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
This might be Gaf-Racist, but I wish more blacks and minorities in general get into all industries. Especially comics, films, and novels. And super especially the fantasy and scifi genres.
This especially. Such a shame more black folk aren't featured in those genres.
Half and half
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(08-18-2012, 08:24 PM)

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#4480

Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
This might be Gaf-Racist, but I wish more blacks and minorities in general get into all industries. Especially comics, films, and novels. And super especially the fantasy and scifi genres.
Nothing wrong with this line of thinking. We should not only wish it, but expect it.

There is so much untapped potential in the black population. I think those areas you mention would benefit from the fresh talent.
double jump
you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
(08-18-2012, 08:25 PM)

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#4481

Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
This might be Gaf-Racist, but I wish more blacks and minorities in general get into all industries. Especially comics, films, and novels. And super especially the fantasy and scifi genres.
when will this reverse racism stop?
Slayven
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(08-18-2012, 08:32 PM)

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#4482

Originally Posted by ReiGun: View Post
This especially. Such a shame more black folk aren't featured in those genres.
They are, dark means evil remember?
Originally Posted by double jump: View Post
when will this reverse racism stop?
I can't get over the term, wouldn't that mean favoring a race other then your own? Like a brotha that only dates Beckys?
ReiGun
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(08-18-2012, 08:49 PM)

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#4483

Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
They are, dark means evil remember?
I try not to think too hard about that or else I get upset. :/
Professor Beef
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(08-18-2012, 08:52 PM)

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#4484

Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
They are, dark means evil remember?
Not all the time!

WARNING: TVTROPES LINK
RedSwirl
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(08-18-2012, 10:40 PM)

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#4485

Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
This might be Gaf-Racist, but I wish more blacks and minorities in general get into all industries. Especially comics, films, and novels. And super especially the fantasy and scifi genres.
Surprised you didn't add games in there.
blame space
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(08-19-2012, 12:07 AM)

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#4486

do white people really smell funny when they get wet
Slayven
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(08-19-2012, 12:42 AM)

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#4487

Originally Posted by RedSwirl: View Post
Surprised you didn't add games in there.
San Andreas showed us how gamers react to minorities.
Professor Beef
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(08-19-2012, 12:51 AM)

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#4488

Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
San Andreas showed us how gamers react to minorities.
You don't understand, it's hard for people to relate to black people.
ReiGun
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(08-19-2012, 12:57 AM)

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#4489

Originally Posted by Professor Beef: View Post
You don't understand, it's hard for people to relate to black people.
They just didn't grow up admiring that life. They just can't imagine themselves in that world, man.
Parallax
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(08-19-2012, 01:30 AM)

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#4490

Originally Posted by ReiGun: View Post
They just didn't grow up admiring that life. They just can't imagine themselves in that world, man.
I love that line.
MorisUkunRasik
so many feels
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(08-19-2012, 01:38 AM)

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#4491

Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
San Andreas showed us how gamers react to minorities.
How am I suppose to relate to a 20 something reconciling his past in 1990s Los Angeles? I can only relate to a 30 something building a drug empire in 1980s Miami!
The Faceless Master
(08-19-2012, 02:12 AM)

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#4492

gangs just aren't ~ROMANTIC~ like the italian mob!
HomShaBom
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(08-19-2012, 03:36 AM)

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#4493

All CJ had to do was follow the damn train.
Gorillaz
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(08-19-2012, 03:55 AM)

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#4494

Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
San Andreas showed us how gamers react to minorities.
Yea it got alot of slack back in the day when it first dropped...love/hate thing in the black community

ironically San Andreas was Rockstar's most popular game due to the fact you could do ANYTHING in there...
Originally Posted by HomShaBom: View Post
All CJ had to do was follow the damn train.
such an iconic line lol
Imm0rt4l
my titty out of milk
(08-19-2012, 04:19 AM)

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#4495

Originally Posted by Slayven: View Post
This might be Gaf-Racist, but I wish more blacks and minorities in general get into all industries. Especially comics, films, and novels. And super especially the fantasy and scifi genres.
word, I don't give a fuck about increasing black media. I want more media with black people in it, and not just some expendable ass characters.
DominoKid
Geocities gawdamn :(
(08-19-2012, 04:39 AM)

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#4496

Mya (HNNNGH) performing somewhere, location unimportant, in a tight dress

ffwd to 2:00.
goes hard on mute
ViewtifulJC
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(08-19-2012, 04:47 AM)

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#4497

Where's that Mya picture when I need it

ahhhhh yes, there it is



Imm0rt4l
my titty out of milk
(08-19-2012, 04:48 AM)

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#4498



I love me some Mya...
Professor Beef
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(08-19-2012, 04:49 AM)

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#4499

Originally Posted by DominoKid: View Post
I'm not normally a violent kind of guy, and most GAFers know me as being pretty laid-back.

But I'll fight each and every one of you for a night with Mya.
ViewtifulJC
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(08-19-2012, 04:57 AM)

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#4500

^Man, you ain't said a word. Grandmas WILL be pushed out the way, dogs will be punted, and sickly orphans will be trampled on.

All for you, Mya. That shit is like "whoa"