[-viper-]

I have now come to the conclusion, after seeing a few GPs, that they do not care about helping people or patients, but rather are here for their own interests.

I wonder what bullshit they used when they applied to medical school themselves. 'I WANT TO BE A DOCTOR SO I CAN HEAL THE WORLD'.

I remember when I had my interview for medical school - the ethical scenario was all about doing what is right for the patient. Apparently it is all about the best interests in the patient.

I guess not.

Fuck GPs. However, I have far more respect for actual physicians who work in a hospital, as they are real Doctors. Now they truly help patients. Not some asshole who suits behind a desk in a suit. To be frank, I probably have more medical knowledge than a GP.

[EnderWiggles]

What? My family physician is cool.

[mac]

All doctors and nurses are money grubbing scumbags. They are just drug dealers in white coats and their so called "science" is just a way to get rich.

I joke but this is how much of GAF feels. Medicine is apparently the biggest scam since pasteurized milk.

[Mutanthands]

I have now come to the conclusion, after seeing a few GPs, that they do not care about helping people or patients, but rather are here for their own interests. I wonder what bullshit they used when they applied to medical school themselves. 'I WANT TO BE A DOCTOR SO I CAN HEAL THE WORLD'. I remember when I had my interview for medical school - the ethical scenario was all about doing what is right for the patient. Apparently it is all about the best interests in the patient. I guess not. Fuck GPs. However, I have far more respect for actual physicians who work in a hospital, as they are real Doctors. Now they truly help patients. Not some asshole who suits behind a desk in a suit. To be frank, I probably have more medical knowledge than a GP.

...
Care to elaborate? Cause right now, you aren't making much sense.

[NintendoGal]

Group Health has many bad GPs. They don't even stick around long. Was trying to get a firm answer on my PVCs and they kept giving me the run around, not even referring me to a cardiologist.

[-viper-]

... Care to elaborate? Cause right now, you aren't making much sense.

I went in with a problem. They were of no help at all. TWICE. Now this problem could be detrimental to my potential career and thus my life.

[dejay]

80% of GPs I have dealings with are very helpful and competent. How dare they put themselves through medical school and have the nerve to pursue a career. My family's GP is much appreciated and talked about.

This is Australia though - ymmv in another country.

(edit) I did have one issue - I went in with symptoms of bronchitis. I told the doctor that I thought I had bronchitis. He said I didn't and sent me packing. Two days later I went to another GP, but didn't tell him what I thought I had. He said "You have very bad bronchitis, you should have come in earlier". Thanks Dr #1

[Mutanthands]

I went in with a problem. They were of no help at all. Nothing more to it.

Where are you? Is your doctor a group doctor, or a solo practitioner?

[ptolemy]

To be frank, I probably have more medical knowledge than a GP.

Listen Frank, you probably don't.

[Zeppu]

Who says all doctors become doctors to help people out? Don't be delusional dude, almost everyone works for money and not for the feel good factor.

[areal]

I despise generalisations.

[Zeppu]

I despise General Isations (GIs)

I like it better like that.

[criesofthepast]

My family doctor is the best. His names Fredrick and he's German-British-Canadian and wears cords everyday and drives a Civic. He's more knowledgable about medicine than you'll likely ever be.

Not all GP's are how you describe.

[Lord British]

I have been seen by every GP on the planet and found them to be, on the whole, confusing. A lot of the overseas ones didn't even speak my language, which was a tremendous barrier to my satisfaction in their service.

[-viper-]

Where are you? Is your doctor a group doctor, or a solo practitioner?

The practice has a number of doctors. I can see whatever NHS Doctor is available. Both were terrible.

[Cohsae]

You've still yet to explain why you think they are terrible.

[Septimius]

The practice has a number of doctors. I can see whatever NHS Doctor is available. Both were terrible.

What? You're a guitarist and they refused to elongate your pinky? You're just spouting non-sequiturs at this point

[ClassyPenguin]

I think he is just pissed he didn't get into med school or was kicked out.

GP's are exactly that. I've always seen them as the first option. If not satisfied ask for a specialist. Although it's all fucked here in the US due to insirance.

[Hoo-doo]

I went in with a problem. They were of no help at all. TWICE. Now this problem could be detrimental to my potential career and thus my life.

Why not expand a bit about your problem and his reaction?
Because either your GP might actually be a scumbag, or maybe you are just an overreacting hypochondriac.

[Big-E]

Love my GP though he is going to be retiring soon and I will be fucked.

[dejay]

or maybe you are just an overreacting hypochondriac.

A condition they failed to diagnose.

[Gazzawa]

you want some antibiotics?

[Lord British]

I'm just going to assume it's his genitals unless he says otherwise.

[Dynamite Shikoku]

GPs > OP

[Odothehero]

I have now come to the conclusion, after seeing a few GPs, that they do not care about helping people or patients, but rather are here for their own interests.......... Fuck GPs. However, I have far more respect for actual physicians who work in a hospital, as they are real Doctors. Now they truly help patients. Not some asshole who suits behind a desk in a suit. To be frank, I probably have more medical knowledge than a GP.

To be fair, if a doctor really wanted money he'd specialise and not be a GP. You only really get money as a GP if you run your own practice, and then you're just a glorified businessman. Most of the doctors in a hospital are specialists.

Most GPs either really enjoy having long-term followup with their patients, or they cbf getting into a hard specialty coz they want to have a family, etc. So saying they're all there for their own interests is a bit rough..

[Lord British]

GPs > OP

Brilliant.

[neojubei]

I have now come to the conclusion, after seeing a few GPs, that they do not care about helping people or patients, but rather are here for their own interests. I wonder what bullshit they used when they applied to medical school themselves. 'I WANT TO BE A DOCTOR SO I CAN HEAL THE WORLD'. I remember when I had my interview for medical school - the ethical scenario was all about doing what is right for the patient. Apparently it is all about the best interests in the patient. I guess not. Fuck GPs. However, I have far more respect for actual physicians who work in a hospital, as they are real Doctors. Now they truly help patients. Not some asshole who suits behind a desk in a suit. To be frank, I probably have more medical knowledge than a GP.

How many GPs did you see?

[Cidfox]

I feel your pain man. My GP kept saying my CROHN'S DISEASE was internal hemorrhoids and was prescribing bullshit medication that wasn't helping. My mother finally said fuck this and scheduled an appointment with a gastroenterologist. By the time I was seen and diagnosed my appendix was about to burst and my intestines were so swollen I would vomit my food or go to the restroom immediately after I ate. I know not all GP's are bad but I never went back to that ass whole after.

[Lord British]

By the time I was seen and diagnosed my appendix was about to burst and my intestines were so swollen I would vomit my food or go to the restroom immediately after I ate.

I never went back to that ass whole after.

No comment.

[dejay]

I feel your pain man. My GP kept saying my CROHN'S DISEASE was internal hemorrhoids and was prescribing bullshit medication that wasn't helping. My mother finally said fuck this and scheduled an appointment with a gastroenterologist. By the time I was seen and diagnosed my appendix was about to burst and my intestines were so swollen I would vomit my food or go to the restroom immediately after I ate. I know not all GP's are bad but I never went back to that ass whole after.

Sorry...ass whole?

[Cidfox]

Sorry...ass whole?

eh. typing too fast
no red line so i submitted

edit *asshole*

[neojubei]

Sometimes it is best to have a second opinion if you do not trust the GP or even the Doctor with the issue.

[dejay]

eh. typing too fast no red line so i submitted edit *asshole*

Actually "ass whole" works - as in he's not just a bit of an ass, he's a whole ass.

[Mutanthands]

I feel your pain man. My GP kept saying my CROHN'S DISEASE was internal hemorrhoids and was prescribing bullshit medication that wasn't helping. My mother finally said fuck this and scheduled an appointment with a gastroenterologist. By the time I was seen and diagnosed my appendix was about to burst and my intestines were so swollen I would vomit my food or go to the restroom immediately after I ate. I know not all GP's are bad but I never went back to that ass whole after.

See, now we have here:

A.) Circumstances
B.) An example of where the Doctor failed
C.) Consequences
D.) And a reasonable conclusion about doctors in general, and his doctor in particular, without the GAF hyperbole.

Try this format.

[Cidfox]

Actually "ass whole" works - as in he's not just a bit of an ass, he's a whole ass.

lol

[Nightshade1765]

What? I love my GP. His private office is baller, and all the staff knows me by name since I've gone there for about 20 years.

Ironically enough, the world needs more GPs. There's too many specialists as is, and not everyone needs to go to the hospital because they have a mild cough. GPs are the first line of triage, if you need to see someone more specialized, they'll tell you and you can go get their opinion.

[Cidfox]

Sometimes it is best to have a second opinion if you do not trust the GP or even the Doctor with the issue.

True, anytime I'm wary of my doctors advice I go see another now. I'm just glad my appendix didn't burst!

[Joe Shlabotnik]

What? I love my GP. His private office is baller, and all the staff knows me by name since I've gone there for about 20 years. Ironically enough, the world needs more GPs. There's too many specialists as is, and not everyone needs to go to the hospital because they have a mild cough. GPs are the first line of triage, if you need to see someone more specialized, they'll tell you and you can go get their opinion.

Yes. Most GPs aren't actually in it for the money, because there isn't nearly as much money in it relative to a specialty (and especially relative to med school debt).

Of course there are shitty GPs. There are shitty specialists too. We need more GPs, because then existing GPs wouldn't be as rushed and overburdened and would be less likely to miss diagnoses.

[Cosmonaut X]

Yes, my father who spent his whole career working as a low-paid GP in isolated, rural areas like the Falklands, the Shetlands and the Isle of Skye was in it for the money. When he put himself on the line to fund the construction of a new surgery, carrying the cost in loans and mortgages so that the community could have suitable health facilities he was clearly in it for the cash. The 24-hour single-handed care he provided to the community year-round? Must have been that huge salary he wasn't receiving...

Here in the UK, GPs - especially rural GPs - are poorly-paid and overworked, and while there certainly are some who aren't up to the standards I'd expect, the vast majority are dedicated and vital.

TL;DR - bollocks to the OP for insulting generalisations.

[I love Kitties]

The world needs more good GPs. There's not a lot of $ or glamour in primary care. But it's a vital part of health care. I'm an RN working in a holistic practice (no drugs). I do my best for my patients. I hope to get my nurse practitioner license one day and offer my services as a GP to those who need it.

[Solideliquid]

So what was your problem?


spoiler alert - xanax related

[Stumpokapow]

I feel your pain man. My GP kept saying my CROHN'S DISEASE was internal hemorrhoids and was prescribing bullshit medication that wasn't helping. My mother finally said fuck this and scheduled an appointment with a gastroenterologist. By the time I was seen and diagnosed my appendix was about to burst and my intestines were so swollen I would vomit my food or go to the restroom immediately after I ate. I know not all GP's are bad but I never went back to that ass whole after.

I am not a doctor, but... if a hemorrhoid is that painful, isn't that an indication of clotting, which would normally suggest surgical intervention?

[RevDM]

Many GPs in private practice (I'm guessing you're in UK since you use the term GP) are jaded. Doctor's are people too, and like people can find that they have lost the fire that got them to where they are. Find another doctor.

The world needs more good GPs. There's not a lot of $ or glamour in primary care. But it's a vital part of health care. I'm an RN working in a holistic practice (no drugs). I do my best for my patients. I hope to get my nurse practitioner license one day and offer my services as a GP to those who need it.

I don't understand how this sort of thing is allowed.

[jimi_dini]

I feel your pain man. My GP kept saying my CROHN'S DISEASE was internal hemorrhoids and was prescribing bullshit medication that wasn't helping.

I had a similar experience. For ulcerative colitis doctors will tell you that it's an autoimmune disease and that the immune system just attacks the colon w/o any reason whatsoever.

I said wtf. This doesn't make sense. And did my own research.

I came up with a medication that's still not approved yet (it's know since 1998, can you believe this crap) called specially prepared soy lecithin which is prepared so it gets into the colon. I managed to get into the study, but wouldn't have survived till then. They send me the medicine and it fucking worked (took around 4 months though). I need it every day of course. But that's nothing against all the other crap medicine that doesn't really work, all the other issues caused by the "untreated" disease and it has no real side effects.

This totally changed the actual disease. And all the crap doctors told me "no reason, immune system attacks just cause" was complete bullcrap. Actually bacteria get inside the colon mucosa for a few millimeters (that's the actual problem and reason, normally this isn't possible). Those bacteria attack and the immune system just reacts - like it should be.

If they were at least truthful and said "we have no fucking clue, you just got a disease where your colon will get inflamed". But no, all sorts of bullcrap talk because they want to look like they know what they are talking about.

[Cidfox]

I am not a doctor, but... if a hemorrhoid is that painful, isn't that an indication of clotting, which would normally suggest surgical intervention?

DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU'RE SENSITIVE (lol like anyone on GAF is senstive)
It's a long story. I had no pain. It all started because I was going to the restroom a lot. I would go 3-4 times a day. I never had pain. I just had bloody stool. Those were the only symptoms. Towards the end I was vomiting as well. I never had to have surgery. Unless a colonoscapy is a type of surgery? I think it's just a procedure. Anyways, after I was diagnosed and given proper meds everything went away almost instantly. I changed my diet dramatically and have kept it in remission ever since. Just to clarify this is a hereditary disease and didn't happen to me because I was overweight and had a terrible diet. It just happens. My father has ulcerative colitis which is the curable kind of IBD. So be glad that it doesn't run in your family. lol, because it sure does suck a whole lot

[Cidfox]

I had a similar experience. For ulcerative colitis doctors will tell you that it's an autoimmune disease and that the immune system just attacks the colon w/o any reason whatsoever. I said wtf. This doesn't make sense. And did my own research. I came up with a medication that's still not approved yet (it's know since 1998, can you believe this crap) called specially prepared soy lecithin which is prepared so it gets into the colon. I managed to get into the study, but wouldn't have survived till then. They send me the medicine and it fucking worked (took around 4 months though). I need it every day of course. But that's nothing against all the other crap medicine that doesn't really work, all the other issues caused by the "untreated" disease and it has no real side effects. This totally changed the actual disease. And all the crap doctors told me "no reason, immune system attacks just cause" was complete bullcrap. Actually bacteria get inside the colon mucosa for a few millimeters (that's the actual problem and reason, normally this isn't possible). Those bacteria attack and the immune system just reacts - like it should be. If they were at least truthful and said "we have no fucking clue, you just got a disease where your colon will get inflamed". But no, all sorts of bullcrap talk because they want to look like they know what they are talking about.

yeah, mine cleared fairly fast as well. Are you on colozal/balsalazide? That's the only medication I'm on now. I've been in remission for almost 6 years

[Septimius]

DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU'RE SENSITIVE (lol like anyone on GAF is senstive) It's a long story. I had no pain. It all started because I was going to the restroom a lot. I would go 3-4 times a day. I never had pain. I just had bloody stool. Those were the only symptoms. Towards the end I was vomiting as well. I never had to have surgery. Unless a colonoscapy is a type of surgery? I think it's just a procedure. Anyways, after I was diagnosed and given proper meds everything went away almost instantly. I changed my diet dramatically and have kept it in remission ever since. Just to clarify this is a hereditary disease and didn't happen to me because I was overweight and had a terrible diet. It just happens. My father has ulcerative colitis which is the curable kind of IBD. So be glad that it doesn't run in your family. lol, because it sure does suck a whole lot

I thought for sure you were gonna paint us a nice image about a swollen asshole and bursting hemorrhoids. I was all psyched up to go past the sensitivity warning

[Cidfox]

I thought for sure you were gonna paint us a nice image about a swollen asshole and bursting hemorrhoids. I was all psyched up to go past the sensitivity warning

lol, just google crohn's disease intestine. The 2nd pic that comes up will give you will you desire. It's fairly similar to what mine looked like after my colonoscapy

[ElectricBlue187]

The worst thing about GP is they are like an agent you have to hire to get to see the doctor you actually need to see. As an outsider i know there's good reasons to have referrals but it's difficult to see much of this system as little more than collusion

[CHEEZMO™]

Why not expand a bit about your problem and his reaction? Because either your GP might actually be a scumbag, or maybe you are just an overreacting hypochondriac.

It's this.

During the Fukushima crisis, he was in a panic about how an iPhone case that he was shipping from Hong Kong could be heavily irradiated and harm him.

As for the overreacting part - well, that's -viper-'s post history in a nutshell.