[Raist]

Yeah well, in the OP's defense, GPs do suck a little in the UK. Mind you, they fit well in that trainweck that is the NHS.

[Kabouter]

I really liked my GP, shame he's retired now :(. If the new one is even half as good, I'm satisfied.

[Emerson]

People saying doctors are in it for the money have no idea how hard family practice physicians work and for how little relative money.

[Copernicus]

I went in with a problem. They were of no help at all. TWICE. Now this problem could be detrimental to my potential career and thus my life.

So you're blaming the doctors for your inability to not get sick or avoiding ailments?

Talk about entitlement!

[-viper-]

People saying doctors are in it for the money have no idea how hard family practice physicians work and for how little relative money.

LOL.

GPs sit behind a desk, 9 till 5.

Physicians have a much more difficult role in the hospistal. Not only they work longer hours, they practice actual medicine.

GPs on the other hand are as good as 'Dr. Google'.

[Hoo-doo]

LOL. GPs sit behind a desk, 9 till 5. Physicians have a much more difficult role in the hospistal. Not only they work longer hours, they practice actual medicine. GPs on the other hand are as good as 'Dr. Google'.

I'm curious, do you actually study medicine?
Seeing you had an interview for med school and all.

[JeTmAn81]

Group Health has many bad GPs. They don't even stick around long. Was trying to get a firm answer on my PVCs and they kept giving me the run around, not even referring me to a cardiologist.

I have not been a fan of Group Health either (Spokane here). However, if you have PVC's unless they're really crazy bad (skipping beats for several minutes at a time), odds are that they'll just tell you they're harmless anyway. I went through the whole procedure getting mine checked out and it turned out to be pretty insignificant.

[Tacitus_]

It's this. During the Fukushima crisis, he was in a panic about how an iPhone case that he was shipping from Hong Kong could be heavily irradiated and harm him. As for the overreacting part - well, that's -viper-'s post history in a nutshell.

Wait what, seriously?

[GoutPatrol]

Aren't GPs the worst paid doctors?

[CHEEZMO™]

Wait what, seriously?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...4#post26793504

then

Well my iPhone 4 case from Hong Kong has arrived. I hope I don't get exposed to iodine/plutonium/uranium radioactive particles. The average radiation levels in HK as of now are about 0.10 microsieverts. Not sure if that is good or bad.

Guys, I want a serious answer :( This stupid case on my phone is making me worry like a madman. But it's true, I'm a MEGA-hypochondriac. It looks really nice, but the fact they've detected levels of radioactive iodine in Hong Kong is making me wary about my purchase. It's a two piece design. I'm trying to pull it apart but it seems to be glued shut. This thing is impossible to remove! Since I have to seemingly live with it, I would appreciate if some level headed members on the board gave me a reality check, or so to speak. Am I safe? Is the case free from radiation? I won't suffer from any medical complications, no? When I got the package, the case was already in a sealed plastic bag, which was some what of a relief, but at the same time, HK has 0.10 microsievets of radiation. And last time I checked, plastic bags don't block radioactive particles unlike lead sheets. The fact I study medicine doesn't really help. Lectures about disease scare me. I seem to suffer symptoms from pretty much many of the conventional medical conditions in that people get diagnosed for. Heck, I worried that I may have had deep vein thrombosis just a while back because my right calf felt absolutely stiff and somewhat swollen.

Also, you may see in the above post he says he studies medicine, yet he is unable to tell if he is circumcised or not. When queried on this:

None of the lectures of the male reproductive system even discussed circumcision. Maybe that's something you learn if you specialise in gynaecology. I dunno. lol.

So yeah.

[Lord Error]

A GP who works near me is the guy you go to when you want to stock up on antibiotics. He clearly knows about the upcoming zombie apocalypse that none of us here have a clue about, as I can't imagine why else would he be handing them around like a candy otherwise. Bring another family member for a double dose! He's sure to find the antibiotics treatable inflamed throat, even if the symptoms you just described to him don't even include sore throat.

My dad always joked that he'd be able to do GP's job. Just measure people's temperature, look inside their mouth and give them antibiotics. Every time you don't know what's wrong with them, send them to a specialist. I think people like this guy are the reason jokes like that are made.

[GoutPatrol]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...4#post26793504 then Also, you may see in the above post he says he studies medicine, yet he is unable to tell if he is circumcised or not. When queried on this: So yeah.

This guy probably came down a terrible case of fibromyalgia.

[Glass Rebel]

OP sounds mad bitter. Good doctors are good, bad doctors are bad. Sounds like the arrogant idiots I used to study with, talking about real doctors and bullshit.

[alphaNoid]

I've loved every GP I've ever had, of course I have my own health insurance and have always chosen who I wanted.

[-viper-]

I'm curious, do you actually study medicine? Seeing you had an interview for med school and all.

yes

[Emerson]

LOL. GPs sit behind a desk, 9 till 5. Physicians have a much more difficult role in the hospistal. Not only they work longer hours, they practice actual medicine. GPs on the other hand are as good as 'Dr. Google'.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

[RBH]

LOL. GPs sit behind a desk, 9 till 5. Physicians have a much more difficult role in the hospistal. Not only they work longer hours, they practice actual medicine. GPs on the other hand are as good as 'Dr. Google'.

......................

[-viper-]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...4#post26793504 then Also, you may see in the above post he says he studies medicine, yet he is unable to tell if he is circumcised or not. When queried on this: So yeah.

that was a while back. first year.

[Copernicus]

that was a while back. first year.

Well then?

Has your foreskin mutated from the radiation yet?

[Binabik15]

LOL. GPs sit behind a desk, 9 till 5. Physicians have a much more difficult role in the hospistal. Not only they work longer hours, they practice actual medicine. GPs on the other hand are as good as 'Dr. Google'.

If the situation is comparable to a German Allgemeinmediziner in the slightest, which I imagine it is: Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

By the way, a good diagnosis needs a responsible and cooperating patient as well. Don'T leave out any details, be as precise as you can, answer all questions as asked. Not sying the OP was confrontational or something, but the OP reads just so bitter and condescending.

If you don't like your GP, go to another one or go to the hospital where everything is perfect and doctors really care about you for hoursn on end (lulz).

[Hoo-doo]

that was a while back. first year.

I'm still waiting on the actual contents of the story.

What made you go to your GP? What kind of treatment/drugs were you hoping for?

[-viper-]

I'm still waiting on the actual contents of the story. What made you go to your GP? What kind of treatment/drugs were you hoping for?

I've been feeling extremely sick as of late and because of it, I was unable to do my exam today. College policy is you require a medical note. They didn't give me one. Now I'm worried I will fail. I missed the exam. The GP didn't have any suggestions other than 'ride it out', and didn't offer me the note, because apparently, the NHS doesn't provide sick notes. Yes, this is why I'm pissed. I hope to enter maxfax surgery too. I don't want my career jeopardised just because I was feeling sick on the actual exam date. Has the doctor helped me at all? NO. If they truly cared about helping people, he would have offered to write a statement that I saw him, and explained to him my symptoms. But no. Yes, I'm pissed. Hope this explains everything.

[Cosmonaut X]

LOL. GPs sit behind a desk, 9 till 5. Physicians have a much more difficult role in the hospistal. Not only they work longer hours, they practice actual medicine. GPs on the other hand are as good as 'Dr. Google'.

Jesus, you really are ignorant, aren't you?

If you are seriously interested in broadening your view of the profession (I doubt it given the tone of your posts so far) take a look at what is involved in being a rural GP.

"Dr Google"... FFS.

[RivalCore]

So basically the OP is pissed about not getting a sick note. What has this go to with the capabilities of GPs?

[-viper-]

So basically the OP is pissed about not getting a sick note. What has this go to with the capabilities of GPs?

Long story. I got in an arguement regarding the efficacy of certain treatment and it's associated side effects. And of course, my grandmother has been offered no help at all. From where I'm standing, I can see symptoms of arthritis. On the other hand, the has suggested 'no it's fine'.

I do admit my anger is probably clouding my view of GPs. However, my point still stands.

[Hoo-doo]

I've been feeling extremely sick as of late and because of it, I was unable to do my exam today. College policy is you require a medical note. They didn't give me one. Now I'm worried I will fail. I missed the exam. The GP didn't have any suggestions other than 'ride it out', and didn't offer me the note, because apparently, the NHS doesn't provide sick notes. Yes, this is why I'm pissed. I hope to enter maxfax surgery too. I don't want my career jeopardised just because I was feeling sick on the actual exam date. Has the doctor helped me at all? NO. If they truly cared about helping people, he would have offered to write a statement that I saw him, and explained to him my symptoms. But no. Yes, I'm pissed. Hope this explains everything.

Go take it up with the college administration. This has little to do with the GP.

[wienke]

My GP is awesome and when I go to see him, the dude only sits down when he's in the examination room talking to a patient.

Rumor has it that GPs are the bottom of the graduating class of doctors but that's why the good ones will say "yeah I'm not touching that, call this specialist" if they're stumped.

[-viper-]

Go take it up with the college administration. This has little to do with the GP.

It has everything to do with the GP. College policy dictates you must have a medical note to be exempt for an exam to allow a retake, otherwise you receive a zero. However, it is worth a shot. I shall try this.

[Hoo-doo]

Long story. I got in an arguement regarding the efficacy of certain treatment and it's associated side effects. And of course, my grandmother has been offered no help at all. From where I'm standing, I can see symptoms of arthritis. On the other hand, the has suggested 'no it's fine'. I do admit my anger is probably clouding my view of GPs. However, my point still stands.

Might I remind you that he's the one with actual experience and a degree here, and you are merely a second-year medical student who didn't even grasp the concept of circumcision until a year ago?

Come on, son. If you personally aren't satisfied with his level of judgement, take it to another GP.

[Cat Party]

God I love GAF.

"Fuck GPs! They suck and don't care about helping the patient!"

turns into

"I wanted a sick note but they wouldn't give me one because I am a massive hypochondriac and a combative, uncooperative patient."

[gwarm01]

OP sounds like someone who likes to make excuses. I've felt sick plenty of times in pharmacy school, but I still come in and take my exam. If you aren't bed bound or infectious you should be there.

[-viper-]

OP sounds like someone who likes to make excuses. I've felt sick plenty of times in pharmacy school, but I still come in and take my exam. If you aren't bed bound or infectious you should be there.

.

Anyhow, I feel this thread has run it's course. I guess I made it to vent. Doesn't matter now though!

[Winnie the Pimp]

i truly believe that as with every profession there are good doctors and then there's the bad apples who are just in it for personal interests(usually money, bragging rights etc)

However, with medicine in particular i also believe that the underlying concept of it is in large parts brilliantly thought out and planned ahead since it is just TOO fucking convenient to be a coincidence that this field generates BILLIONS of dollars among all related fields such as the pharmaceutical industry, or healthcare/medical insurances, senior care etc.

I believe that in a LOT of cases, many doctors do not care that in essence by prescribing drugs to artificially suppress symptoms instead of actively seeking out the CAUSE of the patient's condition they quietly generate massive profit behind the scenes for pharm. companies etc.

It's one of the great problems with Western Medicine imo. Profit oriented symptomatic "treatment" of diseases!

If you think about it you could even make a case for this being an actual crime against humanity on unprecedented scales, but that's probably taking it too far for now...

As i said there ARE good practitioners/doctors out there who actually believe in what they are doing and are doing it to help people, those are unfortunately ignorant in a way/are ignoring the problem since all their knowledge is based on what they have been taught at college which is that same symptom treating oriented medicine, but at least they don't know any better/mean well!

[The_Hitcher89]

I've been feeling extremely sick as of late and because of it, I was unable to do my exam today. College policy is you require a medical note. They didn't give me one. Now I'm worried I will fail. I missed the exam. The GP didn't have any suggestions other than 'ride it out', and didn't offer me the note, because apparently, the NHS doesn't provide sick notes. Yes, this is why I'm pissed. I hope to enter maxfax surgery too. I don't want my career jeopardised just because I was feeling sick on the actual exam date. Has the doctor helped me at all? NO. If they truly cared about helping people, he would have offered to write a statement that I saw him, and explained to him my symptoms. But no. Yes, I'm pissed. Hope this explains everything.

The NHS most definitely does provide sick notes. Perhaps your GP didn't think you actually needed one.

[-viper-]

The NHS most definitely does provide sick notes. Perhaps your GP didn't think you actually needed one.

For work yes, but not uni.

[kswiston]

Unless you are extremely sick, not feeling well is not an excuse to skip an exam. Plenty of women don't feel week a few days a month, but you don't see (most of) them skipping school/work. I'm glad some doctors don't hand out unneeded sick notes. I did some factory work for big 3 automotive feeder plants, and way too many people milked sick notes as a way to skip work to go drinking or play some new game release.

Also, having spent 6-7 years working in an post-graduate academia setting (both as a student and on paid contracts), I have seen plenty of students (especially new students) who thought they knew more, or knew better, than the professionals in their field. It is rarely the case.

[LeadProtagonist]

I went to the same GP for 22 years or so of my life. He's helped diagnose various problems I've had over my life and has always sent me to specialists when he needed to. He even fixed all the stuff that got messed up when my university health center misdiagnosed the mono I had.

Now I have a new GP who is a nurse practitioner. She's great too, already doing a few things to improve my overall quality of health as well as recommending a specialist for my anxiety problems.

[Kentpaul]

GP's are most usefull for mothers who want to get there baby's/children checked for shit.

I don't see why a fully grown adult would see a GP.

[The_Hitcher89]

GP's are most usefull for mothers who want to get there baby's/children checked for shit. I don't see why a fully grown adult would see a GP.

eh?

[SUPREME1]

Gotta disagree with the OP.


Yeah, mnost are useless and greedy. But for the last two years, my wife and I have bee ngoing to this new GP who is awesome sauce. He's an older man who does things the old school way. He'll sit with you for 45 minutes to an hour and just talk to you about your health and ask you many questions to see where you can better health.
He sits there and whipes out a pen and pad and starts drawing body parts, organs or whatever to help you understand exactly what he is saying.

I appreciate that he does this.

Except you better be there early because he does this with every patient so you might end up waiting a long time in teh waiting room even if you have an appointment. He makes no excuses about it either... he'll tell you that he will spedn as much time as he needs to and that every patient gets the same treatement.

Dude is pretty awesome.

Yo, Dr. Ortiz, much love!

[Indrid Cold1]

GP's are most usefull for mothers who want to get there baby's/children checked for shit. I don't see why a fully grown adult would see a GP.

That's right people, god forbid if you find a lump or anything, just go and die quietly in a corner because some bell end on the Internet thinks medical attention is for children.

[Angry Grimace]

Well, me too son. Me too.

No really, I'm not really sure why you would hate a GP. You only go there if you need a prescription of antibiotics or something.

[Kentpaul]

That's right people, god forbid if you find a lump or anything, just go and die quietly in a corner because some bell end on the Internet thinks medical attention is for children.

I was speaking from experience, I keep my body in prime shape and haven't needed to see a GP since i was a kid.

Could't you just go into a hospital if you had a lump and get checked out in one of the small consultant room's.

Gp's are just HUB. Screaming babys n shit in the waiting room.

no thanks.

[The_Hitcher89]

I was speaking from experience, I keep my body in prime shape and haven't needed to see a GP since i was a kid. Could't you just go into a hospital if you had a lump and get checked out in one of the small consultant room's. Gp's are just HUB. Screaming babys n shit in the waiting room. no thanks.

I though the idea was that your GP refers you to the consultant if needed, rather than wasting the consultants time with something that could be fixed by the GP

[ElectricBlue187]

I though the idea was that your GP refers you to the consultant if needed, rather than wasting the consultants time with something that could be fixed by the GP

If it can't be fixed with Amoxicillin or Asprin you almost always need a consultant

[(._.)]

Most are just bone heads that don't know how to explain what is wrong with you. left the doctor before feeling like I just heard a fairy tale.

[El Rauha]

LOL. GPs sit behind a desk, 9 till 5. Physicians have a much more difficult role in the hospistal. Not only they work longer hours, they practice actual medicine. GPs on the other hand are as good as 'Dr. Google'.

On GP placement at the moment. We work from 8am-6pm. We have around 10-15 mins to see each patient, our lists are heavy/full, our days long, we get alot of people who come in with simple colds asking for sick notes on days when I'm in work with a flu. (Been there for 6 weeks, obviously no pay, still a student).

Don't shit on what you don't understand. We (they) are limited in their resources, basic role of a GP is to help you as much as he/she can to the best of his/her abilities before resources are exhausted and there is need for referal to the hospital.

They get alot of shit GPs, and even consultants sometimes shit on them, but by majority medical professions admire the work of GPs as primary health workers.

Just men and women in suits, sure, variation in ability, sure, Dr. Google?! don't be a prick please. Ta.

[SquiddyCracker]

I don't think that GPs are in general bad, but that they are generally bad at dealing with medical issues that are rare.
They're not going to take a patient seriously if he comes in and says that he has lupus or something equally rare, as it is easier to test for a more common disease with same/similar symptoms.

That's not their fault really, it's just how they have to approach their patients in order to deal with the hypochondriacs that do exist. The solution is to simply go to many different GPs as your symptoms persist.

[danwarb]

A GP is often just someone with a symptoms manual who can refer you to a specialist, or proper doctor. Also hands out prescriptions for antidepressants and antibiotics.

[Llyranor]

Of course, it figures that the guy who doesn't think history-taking (behind a desk or otherwise) is 'real medicine' wants to go into surgery.