[DonMigs85]

The 13" MBP is gonna be shit again.

It'll likely be stuck with integrated graphics again, but at least Ivy Bridge's performs better.

[giga]

The 13" MBP is gonna be shit again.

Will be canned. I can't imagine that thing selling too well compared to the Air.

[Good Job Bob]

Probably hitting everything but this is all that leaked.

I think I might have to sit the Retina wave out for a year or two, I don't think developers are going to be as quick to update with Retina support as they are on iOS.

[RubxQub]

The company that refuses to add blu-ray support to push their shitty compressed HD video service. Yeah, I'm still bitter about that :/

This was certainly true before (they're still pushing their own content store)...but at least the quality is fairly on-par with BluRay!

[Vinterbird]

There's no way this will make its way into this years 13" models right?

[Deadly Cyclone]

My plan for a while now has been to buy my first MacBook next year. I don't plan to game on it much, but if it can run some WoW, or slightly older PC games that would be cool.

[Arcteryx]

I'll probably upgrade now, as long as there is a matte version.

[Zeppu]

I think I might have to sit the Retina wave out for a year or two, I don't think developers are going to be as quick to update with Retina support as they are on iOS.

Wait...I thought that on a laptop it'd make more sense to get everything to be smaller and therefore have more usable space rather than keeping everything the same size but in higher resolution.

[RubxQub]

More looking forward to the iMac, personally...what, in this post-PC world.

Super high resolution on that display + cheaper + better specs + I have an iPad for mobile use + iMac can be connected 24/7 for remote desktop if required.

[Good Job Bob]

Wait...I thought that on a laptop it'd make more sense to get everything to be smaller and therefore have more usable space rather than keeping everything the same size but in higher resolution.

Nope, they're going to do it just like they do on iOS. Same size, higher resolution.

I'm sure you'll be able to bypass that if you want to, I won't.

[Sentry]

I don't know, if it's similar to that MacBook in terms of thickness, I don't feel like dropping the disc drive would be worth it. We'll see, but so far it sounds excellent. I'll believe retina display when I see it...

...I mean, I expect it, but I won't actually be able to BELIEVE it until I get to see it first hand.

[numble]

Wait...I thought that on a laptop it'd make more sense to get everything to be smaller and therefore have more usable space rather than keeping everything the same size but in higher resolution.

Read the OP.

[Tobor]

More looking forward to the iMac, personally...what, in this post-PC world. Super high resolution on that display + cheaper + better specs + I have an iPad for mobile use + iMac can be connected 24/7 for remote desktop if required.

Same here. iPad + Desktop is awesome. I'm really curious to see if they've redesigned the iMacs at all.

[Cheebo]

The company that refuses to add blu-ray support to push their shitty compressed HD video service. Yeah, I'm still bitter about that :/ I know they like to phase certain things out, but why five or six years ahead of it's time?

Optical media is nearly dead when it comes to PC's. Not just Apple, the windows side of thing is pushing towards the ultrabook line with no optical drive and MS is removing native dvd playying software in Windows 8.

Everything is digital when it comes to media now.

[Vinterbird]

Same here. iPad + Desktop is awesome. I'm really curious to see if they've redesigned the iMacs at all.

I can't imagine otherwise. It's been so many years with the current design. Ive must be having ideas he wants to bring to life, I can't imagine he's satisfied yet if ever.

[sixteen-bit]

No optical drive is kinda lame

[Zeppu]

Read the OP.

I did, but it seems I misunderstood. You enable HiDPI and you get a workable resolution which is half of what the native resolution is, right? Therefore with the newer displays you'd get twice the current resolution such that if you enable HiDPI you'd get the current resolution but at twice the DPI.

Now I just pointed that that I think it makes more sense to have more usable space than higher resolution graphics on a laptop, and GJB disagreed.

[BreakyBoy]

I just bought a 13" MacBook Air last year, so I'll probably be skipping this regardless. However, I might be in the market for a Thunderbolt Display in the near future.

Apple had better start selling high-dpi cinema displays, I think, otherwise it would be too disappointing to connect your high-dpi laptop to a regular old display.

A refresh with a res-bump and USB 3.0 ports for the Thunderbolt Display would be very welcome news.

No optical drive is kinda lame

Honestly, I haven't used the optical drive in my laptop(s) in the last 3 or 4 years. It's so much faster to work off of USB for practically everything.

The lack of an ethernet port, on the other hand, is a bit more of a hassle when I come to work.

[Somnid]

The Wii excluded ethernet in 2006. Many netbooks did not have ethernet. Few if any ultrabooks have ethernet. No tablets have ethernet. Now realize that Apple killed off floppies before most of the PC world, they're killing off disc drives before most of the PC world. Combine both these two facts and apply to ethernet.

The difference is that MBPs are considered workhorse devices especially in software development. Apple has far better consumer facing models but taking business features out of the MBP is probably not a good idea. I know for us it could be a deal breaker.

[Man]

I'm sure you can get some USB to Ethernet adapter thingy.

[giga]

I did, but it seems I misunderstood. You enable HiDPI and you get a workable resolution which is half of what the native resolution is, right? Therefore with the newer displays you'd get twice the current resolution such that if you enable HiDPI you'd get the current resolution but at twice the DPI. Now I just pointed that that I think it makes more sense to have more usable space than higher resolution graphics on a laptop, and GJB disagreed.

Rumors are pointing to the resolution being 2880x1800. Things would be pretty hard to read at that resolution on a 15" display without scaling.

The "optimal" scaling would do the 2x scaling for an effective resolution of 1440x900. If you don't want scaling, the "small" setting would do that.

[Greyface]

Battery life? Heat management? Judging by the new iPad (and the previous 15" MBPs) Apple is going to have their hands full including a retina display on the Macbook Pro. I can't wait though.

[Utako]

The Wii excluded ethernet in 2006. Many netbooks did not have ethernet. Few if any ultrabooks have ethernet. No tablets have ethernet. Now realize that Apple killed off floppies before most of the PC world, they're killing off disc drives before most of the PC world. Combine both these two facts and apply to ethernet.

Considering that ethernet is still many, many times faster and more reliable than WiFi, I can't imagine many business users (i.e. yours truly) jumping on for no ethernet.

Maybe I can burn one of those useless Thunderbolt ports on an ethernet adapter.

[numble]

I did, but it seems I misunderstood. You enable HiDPI and you get a workable resolution which is half of what the native resolution is, right? Therefore with the newer displays you'd get twice the current resolution such that if you enable HiDPI you'd get the current resolution but at twice the DPI. Now I just pointed that that I think it makes more sense to have more usable space than higher resolution graphics on a laptop, and GJB disagreed.

I don't see how "usable" that space is if elements, text, etc. are going to be twice as small as on current resolutions.

[Copernicus]

I hope it has a touch screen.

[dkeane]

I don't see how "usable" that space is if elements, text, etc. is going to be twice as small as on current resolutions.

Yup - using Air Display with the iPad 3 makes things far too small when running in HiDPI mode.

[VOOK]

It'll likely be stuck with integrated graphics again, but at least Ivy Bridge's performs better.

Yeah probably, I mean I don't game much on mine and my 2009 MBP can run Mass Effect 3 even but I was really bored.

Will be canned. I can't imagine that thing selling too well compared to the Air.

My only concern with the 13" is the lack of RAM. 4GB is not enough.

[jon bones]

Looks sexy as hell but I don't know why they'd nix the ethernet... it's pretty essential for my "main computer" to have.

[LCfiner]

Battery life? Heat management? Judging by the new iPad (and the previous 15" MBPs) Apple is going to have their hands full including a retina display on the Macbook Pro. I can't wait though.

well, macbooks have always run pretty hot so I don't expect that to change with new models. expectations of heat are different with laptops than the ipad. (and laptops have fans to help dissipate some heat)

at least if they ditch the optical drive, they have space for a bigger battery to help offset the increased consumption of the screen and backlighting... but that will affect weight if they try to fill up all that newly available space.

I wonder if Apple would offer a built in cell radio in these new models. Some PC laptops have had that for a while. It would be a nice, useful option.

[Utako]

If gaming on your computer is anywhere near a purchase factor for you, why oh why would you buy a Mac?

[Zeppu]

Rumors are pointing to the resolution being 2880x1800. Things would be pretty hard to read at that resolution on a 15" display without scaling. The "optimal" scaling would do the 2x scaling for an effective resolution of 1440x900. If you don't want scaling, the "small" setting would do that.

I don't see how "usable" that space is if elements, text, etc. are going to be twice as small as on current resolutions.

Yeah that's true actually. I just would love to have a higher workable area. Never mind me then.

[Kung Fu Jedi]

No optical drive is kinda lame

Not really, as I and others have said already in this thread, optical drives are quickly becoming a thing of the past. I finally took the plastic wrapping off of the external DVD drive I bought for my Air a month or so back, after owning it for a year and a half. The only reason I did that was because I impulsively bought a CD that I need to rip to my iPod. If I had thought it through, I would have just grabbed it off iTunes and been done with it.

USB drives and better yet, the Cloud, are making optical drives a thing of the past.

[Utako]

I'm still disappointed by no 17", which is my current standby. 1920x1200 is so nice, and I'm not sure I could go to a lower functional resolution.

The lack of an optical drive isn't one of my concerns. I use it maybe once per year. Even my desktop PC has an external that stays in a drawer the vast majority of the time (the empty slot is used as a heat vent, much more useful).

[Kurdel]

In the last 4 years, I think I used my optical drive 5 times. Good riddance.

[Yoshiya]

Take my money please. I've waited too long for this already.

[Tobor]

The only thing I ever use an optical drive for is occasionally handbraking a DVD. I don't need an internal drive for that. It can sit in a drawer until I want it.

[shuri]

Super high resolution on laptops are nice and everything, but it's kind of useless if 3d apps or games will struggle to run them at native resolution.

[Cheebo]

I hope it has a touch screen.

After Tim Cook mocked the idea just last month? Not happening for a long time if ever.

[iKhayal18]

They better put good GPU's on these...

[Keavy_Rain]

In the market for a new laptop and I was hoping for a 15" Air, but this would do nicely.

[RBH]

If they're dropping the 13" MBP, then it's a matter of this new 15" MBP or the 13" MBA for me.

[RubxQub]

Watch these bitches drop tomorrow to sync up with the Diablo III launch...

[Cheebo]

Watch these bitches drop tomorrow to sync up with the Diablo III launch...

Ivy bridge for laptops aren't releasing till June.

[RubxQub]

Ivy bridge for laptops aren't releasing till June.

JUST WATCH!!!!

Ever since selling my MBP so I COULDN'T play Diablo III, I've had Diablo on the mind and I suspect Apple wants to continue messing with my head!

[Yoshiya]

Ivy bridge for laptops aren't releasing till June.

Incorrect. Dual-core Ivy Bridge parts, including low power parts intended for Airs or "ultrabooks" won't be on the market until June.

[TUSR]

Ive been waiting for Apple to announce these things so I can just throw my money at them.

Set aside 2500$ for a new MBP since my last one has been going strong for 4+ years.

[Cheebo]

Even with dual core ivy bridge being ready in June there is a pretty sizable chance apple holds off till August so they can launch with mountain lion

[KingKong]

hmm I guess this means no iPhone 5 in the summer. i wasnt getting my hopes up anyway but no way would they release ipad 3, new mbps and iphone 5 so close to each other

[RubxQub]

hmm I guess this means no iPhone 5 in the summer. i wasnt getting my hopes up anyway but no way would they release ipad 3, new mbps and iphone 5 so close to each other

Oh it's going to happen...

[TUSR]

hmm I guess this means no iPhone 5 in the summer. i wasnt getting my hopes up anyway but no way would they release ipad 3, new mbps and iphone 5 so close to each other

a lot of iPhone 5 rumors have been saying October, which seems logical enough right?