[CrudeDiatribe]

Come on now, the iPhone 4/S display doesn't look like printed paper either.

It does, actually.

Battery life? Heat management? Judging by the new iPad (and the previous 15" MBPs) Apple is going to have their hands full including a retina display on the Macbook Pro. I can't wait though.

Suspect the battery is going to be larger than the previous model's.

[Kung Fu Jedi]

hmm I guess this means no iPhone 5 in the summer. i wasnt getting my hopes up anyway but no way would they release ipad 3, new mbps and iphone 5 so close to each other

iPhone 5 wasn't coming this summer anyway, but there is absolutely no reason why they couldn't pull off what you describe. No reason at all. The iPhone release and new MacBooks have very little to do with one another.

[Krev]

Come on now, the iPhone 4/S display doesn't look like printed paper either.

When I first saw a display iPhone 4 I thought it was a dummy unit with a printed paper sheet over the screen.

[AdrianWerner]

I have no interest in Macbooks themselves, but I hope the rumors are true. Somebody needs to push high res into notebooks and free us from the god awful 1366x768 that's dominating today's market and Apple is pretty much the best candidate to cause that shift.

[TUSR]

I have no interest in Macbooks themselves, but I hope the rumors are true. Somebody needs to push high res into notebooks and free us from the god awful 1366x768 that's dominating today's market and Apple is pretty much the best candidate to cause that shift.

Apple displays already have native 1440x900 and 1680x1050...

[UnluckyKate]

Apple displays already have native 1440x900 and 1680x1050...

17" aren't 1920*1200 ?

Edit : yeah they are. My 2010mbp is 1280*800 though

[OG Kush]

CD-drive is still a must for me. I need that shit!

[TUSR]

17" aren't 1920*1200 ?

Yeah, but I was talking about the 15" lineup.

[AdrianWerner]

Apple displays already have native 1440x900 and 1680x1050...

Yes, but 144x900 isn't all that different from 1366x768, most users don't even notice it. But when you go all "OMG! retina", both hardware wise and marketing wise it causes people to notice, thus forcing other companies to adapt higer resolutions.

Of course, it is happening anyway, with Apple or without them (new Zenbooks being prime example), but Apple's push should speed up the whole process considerably. Usually they do not have much leverage to push standards in PC hardware, but this is different, as retina captures normal user's imagination.

[KingKong]

I don't think I would miss the optical drive at all, I think the last time I used it on my unibody macbook was when I installed Snow Leopard or iWork

no ethernet is kind of weird, but I guess you can always get the usb dongle

I think I would be really interested in upgrading (my unibody is so old it's still called a macbook) if they came with SSD and had much better battery life

[hiro4]

I just noticed something.
No FireWire connections, which I probably going to miss more then the Ethernet jack :(.

Hopefully they are still on the iMac.

[TUSR]

CD-drive is still a must for me. I need that shit!

Get an external one. Simple, they cost like 20$ at some places.

I don't think I would miss the optical drive at all, I think the last time I used it on my unibody macbook was when I installed Snow Leopard or iWork no ethernet is kind of weird, but I guess you can always get the usb dongle I think I would be really interested in upgrading (my unibody is so old it's still called a macbook) if they came with SSD and had much better battery life

Yeah, I have been hoping for some credible information that backs up SSD. I don't think they have hit the right price for Apple to replace standard HDs.

[Tobor]

CD-drive is still a must for me. I need that shit!

Then you'll need to buy an external drive or switch to PC. Of course, the PC vendors will follow suit within a year or two.

[MetatronM]

It's only recently that I've realized my 2007 MBP is in fact 5 years old.

Sounds like this might be a good point to upgrade.

[Kung Fu Jedi]

As mentioned, I don't mind using the USB Ethernet adapter, but it would be nice to have an extra USB port or two, just in case.

[AdrianWerner]

Then you'll need to buy an external drive or switch to PC. Of course, the PC vendors will follow suit within a year or two.

Nah. Eventually they will, but there's no way it will happen that fast. In ultrabooks it will, but you will still be able to buy larger laptops with built in disc drive two or three years from now.

[Van Owen]

I'm more interested in the cheap Air rumors.

[Kung Fu Jedi]

CD-drive is still a must for me. I need that shit!

What do you still use a CD drive for? DVD I can understand to a degree, but CD?

Unless you're using "CD" as a generic term for optical drive.

[Goldrusher]

All this retina marketing crap, why can't they simply tell you the screen's size and resolution?

[PhoncipleBone]

All this retina marketing crap, why can't they simply tell you the screen's size and resolution?

Because it is easier for people to ask if a screen is retina or HD instead of asking if it is 1900x1080 or whatever.

[Goldrusher]

You can't ask such a question.
The 4S iPhone is nowhere near HD, yet that's "Retina" isn't it?

So if you'd ask if a phone is Retina or HD, the Retina version would be the shitty one.
While with this new laptop, it would be the other way around.

So what is the actual res?

Retina. It's got electrolytes.

[MarkusRJR]

I'm personally looking for a small laptop for school and having a retina display would be all sorts of awesome. But it'll probably cost a fortune like all Apple products... *sigh*

A big off topic, But how is the $1000 Macbook Air? I'm thinking of getting it to replace my netbook as my main computer. I've been going netbook-only for a year now and it's driving me insane (constant lag). I'm not sure the Air's 64gb could last me though. I have 16gb of music alone, not to mention how much video I have.

Also, how long do you think it'll last me? I hate buying computers so the longer it lasts the better.

[Zulithe]

Well, I certainly am keeping my eye on this. I have a 2010 15" MBP and really want to upgrade this year. But since I want to do some gaming on it (mostly diablo III, guild wars 2, a few steam games, but not BF3) I am hoping this super high-res screen won't be too much to handle games at native res.

[SteveWD40]

I'm more interested in the cheap Air rumors.

Same, although I prefer the "flat" design shown here than the "cut you like a knife" tapered design of the Air. A Mac laptop for less than £700 would be great (as long as it isn't gimped with a 64gb SSD...)

[KingKong]

A big off topic, But how is the $1000 Macbook Air? I'm thinking of getting it to replace my netbook as my main computer. I've been going netbook-only for a year now and it's driving me insane (constant lag). I'm not sure the Air's 64gb could last me though. I have 16gb of music alone, not to mention how much video I have. .

A couple of people at work have Airs and they are awesome. Super thin and light and they start up in an instant (because of SSD). Obviously you cant do any kind of heavy computing on it though, and 64gb is way too small. You could pay more to get up to 256 (but have to get 13 instead of 11 inch), but I would wait. It's been almost a year since their last release so the next version would probably start with a bigger SSD

[Greyface]

I'm personally looking for a small laptop for school and having a retina display would be all sorts of awesome. But it'll probably cost a fortune like all Apple products... *sigh* A big off topic, But how is the $1000 Macbook Air? I'm thinking of getting it to replace my netbook as my main computer. I've been going netbook-only for a year now and it's driving me insane (constant lag). I'm not sure the Air's 64gb could last me though. I have 16gb of music alone, not to mention how much video I have. Also, how long do you think it'll last me? I hate buying computers so the longer it lasts the better.

It'd be cheaper to stick more RAM and an SSD in that netbook. The 2GB of RAM on the $1,000 MBA is pitiful and not upgradeable.

[RBH]

I'm personally looking for a small laptop for school and having a retina display would be all sorts of awesome. But it'll probably cost a fortune like all Apple products... *sigh* A big off topic, But how is the $1000 Macbook Air? I'm thinking of getting it to replace my netbook as my main computer. I've been going netbook-only for a year now and it's driving me insane (constant lag). I'm not sure the Air's 64gb could last me though. I have 16gb of music alone, not to mention how much video I have. Also, how long do you think it'll last me? I hate buying computers so the longer it lasts the better.

It won't last you too long since it's 64GB and only comes with 2GB RAM as well (which is not upgradable).

I would wait until the new versions of the MBA are released (probably within the next 4 months or so). Then you can either get one of those or pick up an older model at a cheaper price.

[Sapiens]

If true, time to save up and sell my 13" Air.

Airs are nice but even with the SSD they can chug.

Looking forward to the power+portability of this machine!!!!

[Kung Fu Jedi]

It won't last you too long since it's 64GB and only comes with 2GB RAM as well (which is not upgradable). I would wait until the new versions of the MBA are released (probably within the next 4 months or so). Then you can either get one of those or pick up an older model at a cheaper price.

Agreed. Especially since the rumors are that the low-end Air is going to drop in price as well.

[Always-honest]

Wow, that would be a nice MBP..

[MarkusRJR]

It won't last you too long since it's 64GB and only comes with 2GB RAM as well (which is not upgradable). I would wait until the new versions of the MBA are released (probably within the next 4 months or so). Then you can either get one of those or pick up an older model at a cheaper price.

Ugh that's shitty then. I need to pick up a new laptop before uni starts back up in September. I don't want to pay any more than my cramped budget can provide but I don't want to be stuck with another piece of shit like what I have right now.

Wait, are you telling me that in one year Apple is going to release new Macbook Pros, iPhones, iPads, AND Macbook Airs? That seems like a really busy release schedule for Apple.

[Represent.]

This would be an ideal way to show off my photography portfolio. Was never too big on the iPad. Im probably gonna end up getting one in September.

But all these rumors about "IVY BRIDGE" and "THUNDERBOLT" ... Can any one explain what they are in lamen terms?

[KingKong]

MBPs and iPhone/iPod Touches this year for sure

I would guess Macs and Airs next year

[Futureman]

the last MBP I owned was a 2010 15" model with core i7. It still got VERY VERY hot.

and now they are shrinking the case even more? Don't see how that'll fly... but I guess are the new Intel chips 32nm? does that make that much of a difference?

[Sapiens]

This would be an ideal way to show off my photography portfolio. Was never too big on the iPad. Im probably gonna end up getting one in September. But all these rumors about "IVY BRIDGE" and "THUNDERBOLT" ... Can any one explain what they are in lamen terms?

Ivy Bridge = State of the art intel multi-core processor

Thunderbolt = new, high speed data port that is not only for hard drives, but for displays and other peripherals. You can daisy chain as well. Intel technology.

[Zeppu]

the last MBP I owned was a 2010 15" model with core i7. It still got VERY VERY hot. and now they are shrinking the case even more? Don't see how that'll fly... but I guess are the new Intel chips 32nm? does that make that much of a difference?

22nm. Most Core i's were 32nm. Ivy bridge will be 22nm. It should require less power and should generate less heat.

[RBH]

Ugh that's shitty then. I need to pick up a new laptop before uni starts back up in September. I don't want to pay any more than my cramped budget can provide but I don't want to be stuck with another piece of shit like what I have right now. Wait, are you telling me that in one year Apple is going to release new Macbook Pros, iPhones, iPads, AND Macbook Airs? That seems like a really busy release schedule for Apple.

I would recommend looking into getting a refurb Macbook Air directly from Apple:


http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...ac/macbook_air




They have some decent deals on MBAs with 128GB and 4GB RAM. I would even argue that it's better to buy a refurb than to buy new because it's in the same condition as a new laptop (it goes through additional testing before being sold by Apple and the included battery is basically brand new) for a cheaper price.

[SirButterstick]

When are they going to release a new fucking desktop model. Mine is screaming for an upgrade . . . .

[Cheebo]

MBPs and iPhone/iPod Touches this year for sure I would guess Macs and Airs next year

um..they aren't skipping an entire year for iMac and MacBook Air. They do a new Macbook Air and iMac every single year, somtimes multiple times a year. There are Ivy Bridge Air's coming this summer alongside the MPB's.

Wait, are you telling me that in one year Apple is going to release new Macbook Pros, iPhones, iPads, AND Macbook Airs? That seems like a really busy release schedule for Apple.

What? They refresh their entire Mac line at least once a year, often times more than once. And they release new iPad's and iPhones every year. Do people suddenly forget that this happened in 2011? And 2010? And so on?

[Totakeke]

Wireless is still pretty useless for HD streaming. Why do you hate HD Apple? Oh wait but you have Retina display... but you hate Blu-ray too. So what is the retina display for again?

[Greyface]

22nm. Most Core i's were 32nm. Ivy bridge will be 22nm. It should require less power and should generate less heat.

The CPUs weren't so bad on the MBPs. The problem starts when those pesky GPUs kick in and Apple is going to need one hell of a GPU to power a 15" retina display.

I would recommend looking into getting a refurb Macbook Air directly from Apple: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...ac/macbook_air They have some decent deals on MBAs with 128GB and 4GB RAM. I would even argue that it's better to buy a refurb than to buy new because it's in the same condition as a new laptop (it goes through additional testing before being sold by Apple and the included battery is basically brand new) for a cheaper price.

It takes about 4-5 months before refurbs show up.

[RBH]

It takes about 4-5 months before refurbs show up.

I'm talking about getting a refurb right now (or within the next couple of months) from the current models since he said he needs it by September and he has a specific budget.

[Cheebo]

Wireless is still pretty useless for HD streaming. Why do you hate HD Apple? Oh wait but you have Retina display... but you hate Blu-ray too. So what is the retina display for again?

They sell their video content as digital downloads, not streaming. And the entire PC industry outside of Sony hates blu-ray. It was a stop gap technology already basically leaped past to digital downloads on the PC side of things.

[Mr. Wonderful]

The CPUs weren't so bad on the MBPs. The problem starts when those pesky GPUs kick in and Apple is going to need one hell of a GPU to power a 15" retina display.*

*For gaming.

Ivy Bridge GPUs were made to support 4K displays.

Hopefully 28nm GPUs will take care of some of the GPU issues.

[Totakeke]

They sell their video content as digital downloads, not streaming. And the entire PC industry outside of Sony hates blu-ray. It was a stop gap technology already basically leaped past to digital downloads on the PC side of things.

So the Apple Ecosystem™.

[otake]

Work allowed told me to buy a new macbook. No I'm thinking I should wait. What do the rumors indicate for a release date?

[giga]

Wireless is still pretty useless for HD streaming. Why do you hate HD Apple? Oh wait but you have Retina display... but you hate Blu-ray too. So what is the retina display for again?

What do you mean by HD streaming? 450mbps 802.11n should provide more than enough bandwidth.

[BreakyBoy]

I'm personally looking for a small laptop for school and having a retina display would be all sorts of awesome. But it'll probably cost a fortune like all Apple products... *sigh* A big off topic, But how is the $1000 Macbook Air? I'm thinking of getting it to replace my netbook as my main computer. I've been going netbook-only for a year now and it's driving me insane (constant lag). I'm not sure the Air's 64gb could last me though. I have 16gb of music alone, not to mention how much video I have. Also, how long do you think it'll last me? I hate buying computers so the longer it lasts the better.

RBH covered it. Go for a refurb with 128 GB SSD + 4 GB RAM model. I'd also recommend the 13", but I suppose that's up to personal preference. I switched from a late-2009 15" MacBook Pro to the 13" Air and I couldn't be happier.

If you're already coming from a netbook setup, this will definitely be a step up, and should easily be able to handle what you were doing before.

[Tobor]

Wireless is still pretty useless for HD streaming. Why do you hate HD Apple? Oh wait but you have Retina display... but you hate Blu-ray too. So what is the retina display for again?

1080P streaming on the new Apple TV looks great. It's certainly good enough for most people.

[Cheebo]

So the Apple Ecosystem™.

If you buy Apple hardware you buy into the Apple ecosystem, it's always been this way. They are as much a software company as a hardware company.