[Copernicus]

Boom, confirmed: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...tel-chips.html

But bloomberg is citing 9 to 5..

[giga]

But bloomberg is citing 9 to 5..

No they're not. 9to5 made no references to wwdc or flash storage.

[6.8]

I'm ready. I'm still clinging on my iMac 4,1, and d3 is coming out tommorrow. Day 1 purchase for me.

[Copernicus]

No they're not. 9to5 made no references to wwdc or flash storage.

oh.

[killakiz]

What are the chances of the 13 inch coming with discrete graphics? Also I hope the Thunderbolt display comes with an integrated Ethernet port.

[RBH]

Boom, confirmed: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...tel-chips.html

Flash memory!

[sc0la]

What are the chances of the 13 inch coming with discrete graphics? Also I hope the Thunderbolt display comes with an integrated Ethernet port.

Near zero.

Second one is possible but unlikely

Bloomberg confirming stuff from 9 to 5 Mac.
Edit: late :p

[Futureman]

What are the chances of the 13 inch coming with discrete graphics? Also I hope the Thunderbolt display comes with an integrated Ethernet port.

are there even rumors of a 13" MBP?

Pretty sure 15/17 will be Pro and 11/13 will be Air.

that seems like how Apple is going to me, but maybe I'm wrong.

[Ashhong]

Been waiting for an air update, Only a month to go!

[Good Job Bob]

... people work on Apples hardware? lolwat. The more you know.

[Lord Error]

I'm wary of buying Apple's 1st gen laptops that have something revolutionary attached to them :\ Got burned on first gen MBA (heh, and literally, the thing could burn your fingers if you try lifting it after using Skype for half an hour).

I'm worried that the performance of the 1s gen hardware just won't be there to drive that kind of resolution.

[outunderthestars]

hmm I guess this means no iPhone 5 in the summer. i wasnt getting my hopes up anyway but no way would they release ipad 3, new mbps and iphone 5 so close to each other

Looks like iphones are now a Fall thing, as Ipads are spring and macbooks are summer.

[LeleSocho]

Damn me and the temptation that gave me this MBP 5 months ago!!!
Oh well i was without computer at the times i guess i was forced to buy it...

[Dreams-Visions]

Yep, will be following closely.

I'm so weak.

[Miizy F Baby]

are there even rumors of a 13" MBP? Pretty sure 15/17 will be Pro and 11/13 will be Air. that seems like how Apple is going to me, but maybe I'm wrong.

A 13" MBP already exists.

[funkystudent]

I the market for a new laptop and really want a mac but ehhh.... I NEED a optical drive and Ethernet and I just know they are gonna ditch user upgradable RAM with this model just like they did with the air.


Might pick up a cheaper current model Pro's when they get a bit of a price drop when this is announced.

Dont care for super high res screens when the main job I use it for is audio editing using garageband / protools, word editing and some light photoshop + illustrator work.

[Thoraxes]

This is what i've been waiting for to jump in.

[btkadams]

Damn me and the temptation that gave me this MBP 5 months ago!!! Oh well i was without computer at the times i guess i was forced to buy it...

i'm in the same position. my only computer (mbp) died last july, so i needed to buy a new one.

depending on how revolutionary this really is, i may sell mine and upgrade. if it's not that big of a deal though, i'll probably just wait another couple years before upgrading.

[Raistlin]

... people work on Apples hardware? lolwat. The more you know.

notsureifserious.jpg


Mac in general has always been huge in the video, photography, and music industries.

Obviously people aren't using MPB's for serious video editing, but music is still huge as is photography (people just use an external monitor when necessary).

A 13" MBP already exists.

The question is will that continue?

[Jobiensis]

I'm curious ... what applications other than 'oh if you stick your face right up close you still can't see the pixels' would a retina display benefit on a laptop? Other than of course making everything run slightly slower and diminishing your battery life faster. Phone and maxipad, of course, you're holding that very close so pixel density is more important. But a laptop sits on your lap, it's usually a good arms length away from you.

You must have very short arms if something on your lap is an arms length away. If current resolutions are fine for you, then I guess that is great for you. Personally I'd prefer sharp text and pictures over OpenGL rendering speed.

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Ugh...i've become skeptical on the no Ethernet and CD Drive...I really hope those slots are actually for SD cards.

Retina Display and Ivy Bridge sound awesome though.

[Marty Chinn]

Ugh, just when I was considering a MBP for my replacement laptop this year, they had to go and remove the ethernet port. That's sort of a killer for me right now. All the stuff announced for the next OSX had me excited with the integration between phone and OSX, but I'm not so sure now.

What router? Try the 5 ghz band to reduce interference.

5 ghz band has been pretty useless from my experience. I was excited about it when I got my new router but I only then realized very few devices support 5ghz.

[Raistlin]

Ugh, just when I was considering a MBP for my replacement laptop this year, they had to go and remove the ethernet port. That's sort of a killer for me right now. All the stuff announced for the next OSX had me excited with the integration between phone and OSX, but I'm not so sure now.

USB dongle

[badcrumble]

Flash memory!

Yeah, this is the big story, IMO.

[Ceebs]

Surely they would not limit the better screen to the 15" models. The 15" models start $1800 atm which is just an absurd price to pay for a laptop.

[bluemax]

... people work on Apples hardware? lolwat. The more you know.

I've been using a Mac Book Pro at work for 3 months now. Then again I'm developing iPhone/iPad stuff.

[giga]

Ugh, just when I was considering a MBP for my replacement laptop this year, they had to go and remove the ethernet port. That's sort of a killer for me right now. All the stuff announced for the next OSX had me excited with the integration between phone and OSX, but I'm not so sure now. 5 ghz band has been pretty useless from my experience. I was excited about it when I got my new router but I only then realized very few devices support 5ghz.

That's why ya get dual band!

[Quick]

Lack of ethernet seems like a bold move, but one could just buy an Ethernet to USB adapter if needed. Apple will probably start selling them, even an Apple branded one to match the Macbook Pro.

[Notrollious]

Surely they would not limit the better screen to the 15" models. The 15" models start $1800 atm which is just an absurd price to pay for a laptop.

If the rumors of a $799 Air are true, I can see the 11inch air at that price, followed by the 13 inch at around $1000, with the 13inch Pro cancelled, and the 15inch Pro at $12-1500

I'm probably wrong, but I could see it.

[sc0la]

I wonder if these will use standard 2.5 inch SSDs or mSATA type like the Air?
On the one hand the blades are way more expensive for upgrades, but on the other hand it would be nice to have two bays standard with an mSATA setup.

[Marty Chinn]

USB dongle

I don't want a crappy dongle for something so standard. Last thing I want is losing it/forgetting it when I need it.

That's why ya get dual band!

I have dual band. That still doesn't help that most things don't use 5ghz and it's mostly pointless.

[giga]

I have dual band. That still doesn't help that most things don't use 5ghz and it's mostly pointless.

In the context of a laptop that supports 5 ghz bands and not ethernet, it's not pointless. That's what the discussion is about. Not about 5 ghz in general.

[Sean]

Don't mean to hijack the thread but what are the chances of new iMacs at WWDC? Bloomberg says there will be an "emphasis on the Mac" but makes no mention of it.

[Kung Fu Jedi]

Lack of ethernet seems like a bold move, but one could just buy an Ethernet to USB adapter if needed. Apple will probably start selling them, even an Apple branded one to match the Macbook Pro.

They already do sell one for the Air.

[Raistlin]

I don't want a crappy dongle for something so standard. Last thing I want is losing it/forgetting it when I need it.

While I understand it's annoying to have to purchase it extra, you should probably think this through. If you really like the laptop in other regards, is that seriously a deal breaker?

I assume you have an Ethernet cable somewhere that you normally use with a laptop? I'd imagine you aren't regularly hooking up other things to it? If so, simply leave the dongle attached to the cable. At that point, what's the difference whether you're hooking something up to a Ethernet jack or a USB jack on your laptop? It simply a single cable you hook up either way.

[sc0la]

I also wonder if these will start the transition from IPS to the IGZO display which don't require the massive power draws of other HiDPI displays? It could help them keep the display and backlight assembly thin and not be as much of a drain on battery as it was for the iPad 3

“The plan was to use this new technology called IGZO from Sharp — a lot higher electron mobility that allows them to make the transistors a lot smaller and the circuit elements a lot smaller… There’s no question that the iPad 3 is Plan B. They pushed amorphous silicon to a higher [pixels per inch] than anybody else. But the light throughput is not good. So it has roughly twice as many LEDs, and they had to get a 70 percent larger battery.”

Apple reportedly wanted to use them on the iPad 3 but they were not ready yet. I expect to see them in the iTV

[ivedoneyourmom]

I also wonder if these will start the transition from IPS to the IGZO display which don't require the massive power draws of other HiDPI displays? It could help them keep the display and backlight assembly thin and not be as much of a drain on battery as it was for the iPad 3 Apple reportedly wanted to use them on the iPad 3 but they were not ready yet. I expect to see them in the iTV

I think this is exactly how they are going to do it and will be Apple's big thing this year (and one of the New New iPad's features)

IGZO looks to be a tech to make it all happen affordably (for Apple) - iHDTV, HiDPI powerbook/air/pro, iMac, and The New iPhone.

[Marty Chinn]

In the context of a laptop that supports 5 ghz bands and not ethernet, it's not pointless. That's what the discussion is about. Not about 5 ghz in general.

I thought the context was in general about streaming HD 1080p. Getting a 5ghz router doesn't do you a lot of good when most devices don't support it. Very few do. So not totally pointless for a device that supports it, which my iMac supposedly does but is worse than the 2.4ghz WiFi, but it is a bit silly to force people to upgrade a whole network setup, especially in a business environment.

While I understand it's annoying to have to purchase it extra, you should probably think this through. If you really like the laptop in other regards, is that seriously a deal breaker? I assume you have an Ethernet cable somewhere that you normally use with a laptop? I'd imagine you aren't regularly hooking up other things to it? If so, simply leave the dongle attached to the cable. At that point, what's the difference whether you're hooking something up to a Ethernet jack or a USB jack on your laptop? It simply a single cable you hook up either way.

Yes I do, but it would be in a different location. So leaving the dongle at one place doesn't help. Yes it is a serious deal breaker, especially when dealing with large file sizes. 802.11n is slow compared to a hard line gigabit port.

[Raistlin]

Yes I do, but it would be in a different location. So leaving the dongle at one place doesn't help. Yes it is a serious deal breaker, especially when dealing with large file sizes. 802.11n is slow compared to a hard line gigabit port.

Get more than one then?

[Ace Harding]

Oh boy, just seeing this rumor. Retina display and flash memory on a MB, and I will have to buy one.

I need to start slowly, subtly, and strategically convincing my wife that we cannot continue to live with just one laptop (the one I bought for her). By the time this comes out maybe she'll be convinced. Gotta go with the long con...

Edit: People are seriously complaining about lack of an ethernet port? There is no reason for Apple to include one when A) like 5% of people will ever use it (that's generous) and B) you can easily purchase and use a USB dongle. If it makes it a bit smaller/lighter/cheaper (lol) I'm all for it.

[Marty Chinn]

Get more than one then?

Really? We're advocating buying multiple dongles now? Seems like a terrible idea to defend this decision.

[Bagels]

I'm not looking forward to becoming the guy at work famous for saying, "Dammit! My son must have been playing with my dongle again!" every time I show up at work and can't find it. He has already snagged my display adaptor once, but fortunately I didn't refer to it as a dongle. :/

I had to return my 15" MBP to my old lab and I'm anxiously awaiting the refresh. A13" Pro with discrete graphics would make my day, and while I'm dreaming, I want some kind of technology that keeps my cats from sleeping on my keyboard and changing about 15 random settings I didn't even know existed...

[Dany M]

The lack of ports are just astounding.

[Tedesco!]

Perhaps I missed it.. did they mention anything about keeping FW 800?

[giga]

I thought the context was in general about streaming HD 1080p. Getting a 5ghz router doesn't do you a lot of good when most devices don't support it. Very few do. So not totally pointless for a device that supports it, which my iMac supposedly does but is worse than the 2.4ghz WiFi, but it is a bit silly to force people to upgrade a whole network setup, especially in a business environment.

The context was about the guy living in an apartment and couldn't use wifi to stream HD content due to interference, and thus this new MBP would be incapable of streaming HD content because it lacks ethernet. So no, it wasn't about streaming HD content in general.

And if we were talking about streaming HD content in general, then 802.11n over 2.4 ghz would be fine as well in areas where interference isn't a problem.

[Dreams-Visions]

The lack of ports are just astounding.

Meh, the only real reduction here is the removal of the ethernet port.

[opticalmace]

The lack of ports are just astounding.

Port begging is a bannable offense.

[Norante]

All changes are absolutely welcome.

[corn_fest]

I plan on getting one of these for school this year. Shame about the supposed lack of Ethernet port, though, as that's what I'll have to use when in my dorm. A USB or Thunderbolt adapter isn't really a big deal, though.

[Raistlin]

Really? We're advocating buying multiple dongles now? Seems like a terrible idea to defend this decision.

I'm neither defending nor attacking the decision. What I'm stating is I think you are engaging in a prototypical cutting off the nose to spite the face scenario.

If you find a MPB to be the superior product in all other ways, why would you purchase an objectively inferior laptop when there's a simple workaround that would yield equivalent finctionality? Out of principle?

Perhaps I missed it.. did they mention anything about keeping FW 800?

They can't be that stupid. They'd basically be killing off the audio community.

Port begging is a bannable offense.

Okay ... that was amazing :D