[PepsimanVsJoe]

This is going to be the only fighting game I'll ever need.

[Master Thespian]

I played this online tonight and was reminded how terrible I am. I can see some SC5 revenge beatings coming my way in a month. :(

[TheSeks]

I played this online tonight and was reminded how terrible I am. I can see some SC5 revenge beatings coming my way in a month. :(

How are you playing this online when this isn't available yet? Partnernet?

[Zuly]

How are you playing this online when this isn't available yet? Partnernet?

I think he means Vanilla VF5.

[Master Thespian]

I think he means Vanilla VF5.

Oops, yeah I did.

[Slate Soda]

I've never played a VF game before, so I'm interested in this, but I gotta say that these graphics are pretty bad. DoA4 looks better than this. I understand it was originally released in 2006, but...I don't know, it needs a better art direction or something.

[GekigangerV]

Hey Oichi, here came across what appears to be a legit list of trophies you can add to the OT

http://exophase.com/game/virtua-figh...down/trophies/

Seems pretty damn easy. Just playing arcade mode once and online for an hour should net you most of these.

Let you friends who like easy achievements and trophies know that they should pick up VF5FS!

[TheSeks]

Hey Oichi, here came across what appears to be a legit list of trophies you can add to the OT http://exophase.com/game/virtua-figh...down/trophies/ Seems pretty damn easy. Just playing arcade mode once and online for an hour should net you most of these. Let you friends who like easy achievements and trophies know that they should pick up VF5FS!

Yeah, I'm really glad the ranked trophy is just 10 online plays. So I can go back to player matches after. No wins. No straight wins like Capcom shittily does. Just straight up playing the game. It's nice. I wish more fighters copied it.

[Fularu]

Day one

I really need a good arcade stick for my PS3. Does the TE one work with PCs too?

[sixteen-bit]

Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown |OT|

[DR2K]

VF5 Final Showdown lOTl Same price as half the costumes in SFXTK and a piece of Pai.

VF5 Final Showdown lOTl I got 99 problems but a disc ain't one.

VF5 Final Showdown lOTl Come for the fight stay for the Brad Show

[Edgeward]

Day one I really need a good arcade stick for my PS3. Does the TE one work with PCs too?

Any of the more recent ones will work just fine. The original TE and TE-S ones are fickle and depend on what type of usb you have.

[To Far Away Times]

Day one I really need a good arcade stick for my PS3. Does the TE one work with PCs too?

Take a look at a Qanba. Same Sanwa parts as the TE, but works with XBOX, PS3, and PC. Also supports POV/digital with the flick of a switch for some of the more troublesome PC fighting games. I might buy one so I can have a second stick next to my TE.

[backbreaker65]

Gamespot Basic Training Dev video.

Has this been posted?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3fz-...eature=g-all-u

[Fularu]

Any of the more recent ones will work just fine. The original TE and TE-S ones are fickle and depend on what type of usb you have.

Now to track one down in Québec City. I can find the 360 version but I've never seen a PS3 version.

[Cloudius12]

Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown |OT| Filling up the chairs

[Socreges]

$15? Awesome

I'm not at all good and haven't played VF in years. Any chance of tiered competition so that I can play against similarly shitty players, at least at first? Or is there an AI competition mode and I just didn't notice? Either way I'll be spending a lot of time in training.

[sleepykyo]

Virtua Fighter 5 |OT| Final Showdown

I like it.

[Blizniak]

I've never played any VF but I'm definitely getting this one, for some reason I just find it much more appealing than the Bamco and Capcom fighting games.

[2&2]

Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown |OT| Suddenly Day-1 DLC is OK w/ people!

[Ashes1396]

How many characters do I get without dlc?

[GekigangerV]

How many characters do I get without dlc?

No Characters are DLC. You actually get the console exclusive use of the boss, Dural.

[Dead Man Typing]

What's a cheap but solid stick that I can get in the UK?

If I'm going into VF5 again, I'm going to do it right.

[To Far Away Times]

Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown |OT| So good you'll swear it's on the Dreamcast 2.

[NinjaJesus]

This is the training mode from Final Showdown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W-Km4SAt84#t=30m09s

All fighting games need a mode like this...something to let you go through the moves and find out if you're doing them correctly.

Going to grab this Day 1.

[Shalashaska161]

Never played VF before, but its always been something I've wanted to try. For $15 bucks I'm definitely in, especially since it has a decent training mode.

[Leshita]

Is there any chance at all of them doing a disc-based release down the line with all the DLC included?

[Soulstar]

Day 1 x2. Double dipping the fuck out of this.

Quoted for undeniable truth. June 5 is fucking marked on my calender.

[Ashes1396]

No Characters are DLC. You actually get the console exclusive use of the boss, Dural.

Alright then.

One last question. Can you pre-order it on psn?

[DR2K]

Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown |OT| Suddenly Day-1 DLC is OK w/ people!

It's not locked away on the disc, it's an actual download, the base game is a fraction of the price of standard retail disc, and it's a properly balanced quality fighter full of content. Yeah totally the same thing.

[Shearie]

So does the online only consist of lobbies? For all the fighting games I've played online, I've always much preferred ranked matchmaking than player lobbies since I don't have a group of friends that I like to play with (fighting GAF's skills are WAY too high for me) and I don't like waiting for other people to finish until my next fight starts.

It'll seriously bum me out if there isn't any matchmaking.

[2&2]

It's not locked away on the disc, it's an actual download, the base game is a fraction of the price of standard retail disc, and it's a properly balanced quality fighter full of content. Yeah totally the same thing.

Wow. I don't even know where to begin here. I'm not crapping on this game, $15 for the core package is a great value, but hating on other games for the same practice is double-standard city.

Let's not kid ourselves. Sega's "locking" already completed content made during the development cycle behind a "pay wall" regardless of where it's stored initially. You gotta pay them more than just the cost of the game itself to use it.

The DLC may be totally worth paying more in addition to the actual cost of the game. If it is to you, that's awesome. Buy and enjoy! but the same logic should apply to all cases.

[Shadow Red]

This is just too freakin awesome. I'll still miss the old Quest Mode back in the day.

[Dead Man Typing]

Wow. I don't even know where to begin here. I'm not crapping on this game, $15 for the core package is a great value, but hating on other games for the same practice is double-standard city. Let's not kid ourselves. Sega's "locking" content behind a "pay wall" regardless of where it's stored initially. You gotta pay them more than just the cost of the game itself to use it. The DLC may be totally worth paying more then the actual cost of the game. If it is to you, that's awesome. Buy and enjoy!

Lets keep this endless argument in one of the many other day-1 DLC threads. Virtua Fighter is only selling fan-service outfits as DLC for those who feel the need to have those things. The core game is not compromised by this in any way.

It is the definition of win-win for fighting game fans and obsessive Virtua Fighter fans alike.

[2&2]

Lets keep this endless argument in one of the many other day-1 DLC threads. Virtua Fighter is only selling fan-service outfits as DLC for those who feel the need to have those things. The core game is not compromised by this in any way. It is the definition of win-win for fighting game fans and obsessive Virtua Fighter fans alike.

No argument with the last statement. The first part, however, seems like the arguments people get called "corporate shills" and "apologists" for in those threads.

[Daigoro]

Shun Di for life suckas!

Very excited for this game. I need to swap in some Sanwa parts or get a new stick maybe...

[Ogrekiller]

No argument with the last statement. The first part, however, seems like the arguments people get called "corporate shills" and "apologists" for in those threads.

Not even remotely the same. People were complaining about gems and characters as dlc, not costumes. Furthermore the game itself is 1/4 the price of a full priced retail game. Keep moving the goalposts.

[sixteen-bit]

Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown |OT| So good you'll swear it's on the Dreamcast 2.

Why would I. The Dreamcast is not something I associate with good VF.

[DR2K]

Wow. I don't even know where to begin here. I'm not crapping on this game, $15 for the core package is a great value, but hating on other games for the same practice is double-standard city. Let's not kid ourselves. Sega's "locking" already completed content made during the development cycle behind a "pay wall" regardless of where it's stored initially. You gotta pay them more than just the cost of the game itself to use it. The DLC may be totally worth paying more in addition to the actual cost of the game. If it is to you, that's awesome. Buy and enjoy! but the same logic should apply to all cases.

It's not the same thing though. One is blatently ripping consumers off (huge chunk of game locked away to be sold at a later date) and the other is actually benefecial to consumers. Smaller download and smaller entry price for the full game.

[soakrates]

Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown |OT| -- That Thong Th-Thong Thong Thong (.gif required in OP)
Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown |OT| -- Real Life Needs a Frame Advantage Indicator
The EXCELLENT Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown |OT| -- YEEEEAAAAAHHH!

[Soulstar]

I kinda missed the character discussions but my main is Sarah with my alternate being Kage. I also do a lot of Eileen and El Blaze when I want to switch it up.

As far as the DLC discussion goes I find it hard to call the situation the same for reasons that have already been stated in the thread. It's only costumes and the price for the game + DLC still costs less than a full priced game.

[Absoludacrous]

Oh man, I can't wait to bust out my Eileen and Sarah online again. I had so much fun with VF5, even got the full 1000 by grinding out those arcades in single player.

[@MUWANdo]

Wow. I don't even know where to begin here. I'm not crapping on this game, $15 for the core package is a great value, but hating on other games for the same practice is double-standard city. Let's not kid ourselves. Sega's "locking" already completed content made during the development cycle behind a "pay wall" regardless of where it's stored initially. You gotta pay them more than just the cost of the game itself to use it. The DLC may be totally worth paying more in addition to the actual cost of the game. If it is to you, that's awesome. Buy and enjoy! but the same logic should apply to all cases.

Sega was forced to segregate the dress-up items from the main game due to Microsoft's file size cap. It's not like they took them out just so they could make a big deal of giving us DLC that's not hidden in the base game, they didn't have a choice.

It comes with its own downsides, too--you won't be able to see other peoples' dress-up items unless you've bought them for yourself. (They're trying to negotiate free compatibility pack downloads that'll allow everyone to see the items whether they've bought them or not, but who knows if it'll actually happen.)

[2&2]

Not even remotely the same. People were complaining about gems and characters as dlc, not costumes. Furthermore the game itself is 1/4 the price of a full priced retail game. Keep moving the goalposts.

Plenty of ranting is done about costumes. Plenty of ranting is done about charging for DLC already completed when the game comes out. Those exact same examples are always huge point of contentions in Day-1 DLC arguments. The general principle of those practices seemingly enrage people to no end.

It's not the same thing though. One is blatently ripping consumers off (huge chunk of game locked away to be sold at a later date) and the other is actually benefecial to consumers. Smaller download and smaller entry price for the full game.

"blatantly ripping consumers off" is a subjective opinion based your value estimation of the game. Someone could say having to pay $30 for all the costumes in a $15 game (200% extra cost) is a blatant ripoff. $20 for the 12 characters in SFxT is only 33% of the core game's cost and offers more gameplay. That doesn't sound so bad when looking at it that way. Again, subjective.

What if this wasn't a digital download, but was a $15 disc and all $30 of the DLC was on it? Would your feeling toward the game change?

I'll just leave these questions here:
Is this day-1 DLC already completed at the games launch? Yes
Will Sega let you access this content without paying for it? No

These two things are not refutable and are precisely the practices that many people (not necessarily you) are screaming about with other publishers. That's all I'm saying here.

[kunonabi]

No argument with the last statement. The first part, however, seems like the arguments people get called "corporate shills" and "apologists" for in those threads.

At least the base package comes with the complete roster. SEGA has even said that download limits played in having to make them DLC. It's also completely optional content that isn't integral to the game unlike SFxT lopping off characters and gems. Characters will also have six outfits right off the bat instead of two colors and chances are the netcode and training mode will be leagues better as well. If you really can't see the difference in value I don't know what else to say. You're even more lost than you appeared.

[∀ Narayan]

Are these going to be in the console version? I love watching these introduction scenes during replays.

[DRE Fei]

DLC arguments are mad stupid son. Either buy it or don't buy it.



Training/Tutorial mode footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3fz-...ature=youtu.be

It's actually pretty robust. Almost on the same level as VF4evo.

[alstein]

Are these going to be in the console version? I love watching these introduction scenes during replays.

They've not given an answer to this- I suspect the answer will be no due to loading times though. Also, after about 1000 matches you'll want to skip it and just play anyways.

[∀ Narayan]

They've not given an answer to this- I suspect the answer will be no due to loading times though.

:(

[THE NO LIFE KING]

Never been big into VF but with this pricing and supporting SEGA's ass too see more affordable ports to the consoles. You have my $15 SEGA.