[xbhaskarx]

'Of Color'. What is this 1953?

What?? That is a much more recent PC term.

[The Faceless Master]

i remember a couple of years ago, a friend of my cousin got sick and almost died due to some sort of stomach condition. she had to have surgery and be hospitalized for weeks. before, she was thick... you know, that kind of THICK that black guys love... anyway, after being in the hospital for weeks and not being able to eat normal foods or having much of an appetite, she was released and obviously lost weight. she looked great, still curvy, etc, but the first thing all the women (including my cousin) were saying was how she lost her shape and lost her ass etc... dudes didn't care, we all agreed she looked good before and after, but the women were on some whole other level of talk.


again, this is all anecdotal, but what i'm saying is black women seem to care much more about their weight and other women's weight than black men do. maybe their perception about how much men care is larger than the actual caring level of men?


as far as dating outside the race, i really would love to know exactly why black women are so against it... i've had that discussion with female cousins after one of them mentioned that a white guy asked her out. she was basically like "i dunno if i could..." 'why?' "... i dunno" ... i would love to know the logic behind the decisions.

Mighty Sparrow - Bag ah Sugar Sparrow knows what's up!

Lord Kitchener - Sugar Bum Bum

[onemic]

i remember a couple of years ago, a friend of my cousin got sick and almost died due to some sort of stomach condition. she had to have surgery and be hospitalized for weeks. before, she was thick... you know, that kind of THICK that black guys love... anyway, after being in the hospital for weeks and not being able to eat normal foods or having much of an appetite, she was released and obviously lost weight. she looked great, still curvy, etc, but the first thing all the women (including my cousin) were saying was how she lost her shape and lost her ass etc... dudes didn't care, we all agreed she looked good before and after, but the women were on some whole other level of talk. again, this is all anecdotal, but what i'm saying is black women seem to care much more about their weight and other women's weight than black men do. maybe their perception about how much men care is larger than the actual caring level of men? as far as dating outside the race, i really would love to know exactly why black women are so against it... i've had that discussion with female cousins after one of them mentioned that a white guy asked her out. she was basically like "i dunno if i could..." 'why?' "... i dunno" ... i would love to know the logic behind the decisions. Lord Kitchener - Sugar Bum Bum

This. I've never heard of any black man(and if there are, they're in the minority) that push their gf/wife to gain weight to the point of being obese. Saying to not marry black men is a very ignorant position to take.

[DragonKnight]

Thick is good. Fat or cellulite is bad. White or black.

[computers putin']

i remember a couple of years ago, a friend of my cousin got sick and almost died due to some sort of stomach condition. she had to have surgery and be hospitalized for weeks. before, she was thick... you know, that kind of THICK that black guys love... anyway, after being in the hospital for weeks and not being able to eat normal foods or having much of an appetite, she was released and obviously lost weight. she looked great, still curvy, etc, but the first thing all the women (including my cousin) were saying was how she lost her shape and lost her ass etc... dudes didn't care, we all agreed she looked good before and after, but the women were on some whole other level of talk. again, this is all anecdotal, but what i'm saying is black women seem to care much more about their weight and other women's weight than black men do. maybe their perception about how much men care is larger than the actual caring level of men? as far as dating outside the race, i really would love to know exactly why black women are so against it... i've had that discussion with female cousins after one of them mentioned that a white guy asked her out. she was basically like "i dunno if i could..." 'why?' "... i dunno" ... i would love to know the logic behind the decisions. Lord Kitchener - Sugar Bum Bum

I feel the same way. I can't lie either, about your cousins friend, I've heard a couple other females engage in similar conversations about about one losing weight.

[CrushDance]

What?? That is a much more recent PC term.

White is still a colour.

[Opiate]

White is still a colour.

And since we're getting technical, black is not!

[MorisUkunRasik]

Solution: stop listening to your husbands? Stop marrying black dudes, if necessary? Being fat isn't the recipe for health or success or anything good in life.

Had to change the gif, couldn't find a replacement for the disabled one.

[Gattsu25]

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While I'm sure I agree with the GIF you intended to post you are getting a "hotlinking disabled" image.

[blame space]

And since we're getting technical, black is not!

black is all of the colors

[Opiate]

black is all of the colors

Incorrect. That is white.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White

White light is the effect of combining the visible colors of light in suitable proportions (the same present in solar light).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black

Black is the color of objects that do not emit or reflect light in any part of the visible spectrum

[bengraven]

Incorrect. That is white. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White

"depressingly realistic"

I wonder if there is any positive at all. If black men and women have less problem with fat, and black men find fat women less unattractive than other groups do they might live less healthy lives but on the positive psychological issues related to people not accepting your for your fatness might be less severe and they more happy about themselves than say fat white women might be in relation to them being fat. Though health is important so they should be less fat.

[CrushDance]

And since we're getting technical, black is not!

What. Really? I did not know this....I feel embarrassed.

And I just meant that saying someone is of colour doesn't really mean anything. Or shouldn't anyway. Black and white are too extreme, and quite rare.

Edit:

Incorrect. That is white. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black

See, I always knew this little tidbit about black and light/heat. But I did not think it that it wasn't a colour. Cool stuff.

[mclaren777]

Being fat isn't the recipe for health or success or anything good in life.

I'm glad you said it so I didn't have to.

[JGS]

People not being shamed for being fat are happier than people constantly being shamed about it. Whether or not that's a good thing, is up to you. To me, being fat, unhealthy and oblivious is a bad combo.

It's more likely an indication of settling. Although there is something to be said for finding happiness outside of appearance, it's not to say there isn't shame or the chance for more happiness if thinner and healthier.

[GotEmRunnin]

I've never wanted my wife to gain weight. After 3 kids she's still 130 pounds.

I'm black and last time I checked I think she was black too.

[SolKane]

There were a lot of fatties at my old job, both black and white. It was appalling to be around so many slovenly, obese people, many of whom did nothing but eat junk food throughout their shift. There was one black girl however who was young and very slim, and whenever I saw her in the cafeteria I'd fantasize about making love to her. Never even learned her name.

[CTE]

In BC? Really? O_o

Less than one in 5 here is considered obese. Goes to even less when in certain areas.

In Vancouver 1 in 10 are considered obese. Maybe 1.1 or 1.2, but not going to nitpick and throw in decimals.

So, yeah. BC.

[CrushDance]

Less than one in 5 here is considered obese. Goes to even less when in certain areas. In Vancouver 1 in 10 are considered obese. Maybe 1.1 or 1.2, but not going to nitpick and throw in decimals. So, yeah. BC.

B...bu...but you guys have mountains!

[blame space]

Why don't we all become fat, lazy potheads?

this is a really good idea, for the record.

[bishoptl]

Solution: stop listening to your husbands? Stop marrying black dudes, if necessary? Being fat isn't the recipe for health or success or anything good in life.

I'm gonna chalk that second one up to pure facetiousness.

[blame space]

or else what

[soundscream]

?????? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDDyxXyf6UU

When I started watching I almost lost it cause it looked like those girls were deadlifting 405lbs but I saw the weights are not 45lbs.

[OpinionatedCyborg]

ugh, my back and joints hurt just from watching that crossfit bullshit. it's too bad crossfit gyms like that waste all that teamwork and determination.

[Forceatowulf]

I'm gonna chalk that second one up to pure facetiousness.

Hmmm... you know.. you could always just........... you know what, never mind. I dare not utter the words

[OpinionatedCyborg]

I want to see evilore banned from his own forum, if only for 15 minutes.

[EviLore]

I'm gonna chalk that second one up to pure facetiousness.

You're jumping on me too? Sheesh, that's pretty low.

Yes I'm being facetious obviously. The context is that op/ed is claiming that black women are encouraged by black men to stay fat. If that's really a problem for these women in the article, being pressured into being unhealthy and headed in the direction of a host of illnesses from metabolic syndrome, then these women should probably find men that don't want them to be fat. Hence the comment.

In reality it seems to me like more of a systemic cultural issue though. Boyfriends/husbands, family members, media portrayals, all of that's at play here. Economic factors don't seem to be that relevant, since the BMI gap remains steady among college grads. And I'm going to dismiss the genetics angle that some people brought up, since all of us have roughly the same metabolisms at a given height and weight. Looks cultural to me, and that's something that can and should be addressed.

[Neo C.]

Transcribed from the full paper: detailed stats: Education doesn't appear to do anything to close the respective BMI gap racially for black women, though college seems to correlate strongly with lower BMI across all women. I'm guessing the inverse relationship women-wide there is because of childbirth-related weight gain (less education, more baby-making), but that's outside of the purview of the study.

Woah, are these average BMI? Those numbers are pretty high across all races.

[Buckethead]

Why are the financial and educational elements of the culture "scapegoats", and why is acknowledging those facets of the culture irresponsible?

I acknowledged them, they are real. They are things to be considered and barriers to overcome.
I'm just saying don't use them as a scapegoat or as an excuse. That would be irresponsible.

[industrian]

It fits the 3 word Steven Segal rule. Marked for Death, Above The Law, The Glimmer Man. My firends often joked that Under Siege was decent because it was only two words.

Exit Wounds... it all makes sense now.

[theignoramus]

Damn, it's like every week we gotta have "Black people are worse then other people" thread. And the sad part is that there isn't much of a discussion because THE STATISTICS rule all in internet debates. Just have to nod your head and say, "Yep, I guess that another thing we're just inferior to all races on."

it does seem like there's an eagerness and measure of glee in putting our shit under a magnifying class. black obesity, black homophobia, black under achievement, black people dont tip, black women and ugliness,etc, etc. You dont see this for anyone else, apart from Arabs and Muslims. Black obesity, black under achievement, Muslim bombers and the like didnt exactly fuck huge swaths of people out of their jobs, houses or retirement savings or hike up your daughter's college tuition.

[Jason Raize '75 - '04]

That article was badly written

[CrocMother]

I think this has to do primarily with food culture, not black men's preference for thick women. You can still be "thick" so to speak and remain in shape.

I think this is more of a class issue than a race issue, the poorer you are the worse you eat. When you have to work shitty jobs all day it is difficult to come home and cook a full meal.

Hispanic people have avoided the high obesity rates in my opinion because many of them are immigrants, and they still have a strong food culture at home. When you add the horrible stats about african americans coming from broken homes it further adds to the problem (broken homes/single mothers=less home cooked nutritious meals).

In the poorer states in the Union, white people are just as fat on average as black people. I don't have any stats, but that is just my observation growing up in the south. The reasons are the same, poor/non-existent food culture and jobs which tire the body but don't really exercise it.