[Lord-Audie]

what show is this from?

getout.gif

[strafer]

what show is this from?

Fresh Prince in Bel Air.

[methane47]

I just realized the white girl in the pic is a terrible dancer.

[Haunted]

So basically, Quake III: Arena is better than Unreal Tournament.

Now you're just playing Captain Obvious.

[TheSeks]

So basically, Quake III: Arena is better than Unreal Tournament.

Well it is. *puts on sunglasses and rides off into the sunset before this thread is derailed by my right answer*

Forbes shouldn't fall into the list/"why" trap like IGN and others are doing IMO. :(

[NeededSleep]

Diablo 3 will live on for more than a decade. Also: GTFO LOL

Wtf why does she have breasts on her face

[Raging Spaniard]

That's not weird at all, you know how engrossing these games can be, when two similar come out within the same timeframe, it's absolutely normal to make a conscious decision for one over the other because you want to focus on one experience. The closer Torchlight 2 comes out to Diablo III, the worse off it'll be. There's obviously no comparison between the selling power and mindshare of the two. It'll be a tricky balancing act for the Torchlight devs to find the right time to release their game.

If youre gonna get hardcore, many people here will admit to committing 200 plus hours on a fighting game, a multiplayer FPS, an MMO, Guitar Hero, FIFA, etc. Them being engrossing means nothing, every genre can be exactly that except for SP only games (and even then...)

If you complain a genre is dead, then support it when its showing signs of life. Otherwise you just dont like the genre enough. Many people here buy every FPS, 3rd person shooter or even fighting games, dunno why this genre needs to be isolated (especially when one of the games is dirt cheap)

[AbsoluteZero]

You want T2 and not D3. Which means I like you. NOT THAT I'M A TORCHLIGHT FANGIRL AND HATE D3 OR SOMETHING. Enjoy your game, people.

Still, I'm not entirely sure how that means I've "done some soul searching in your absence." but okay.

I like Blizzard as a developer, but while I loved and played the shit out of Diablo and Diablo II in their heydey, they remain the only part of their library I have any interest in. I like the idea of MMORPGs, but I don't like the massive timesink and endless world they offer. Same with Starcraft II (And RTS games in general) they're a fun genre, but I'm absolutely terrible at playing them.

That said, I've gotten close to buying Torchlight multiple times, especially after it launched on the Mac via Steam's OS X launch, but the lack of multiplayer made me think that it would feel like a very lonely game.

That being said, Diablo III looks fantastic, and I'll assuredly be buying it...but I'm not a fan of games over $30, no matter what the developer, so I'll likely be picking up a year or two from now.

But Torchlight II seems to tick all the boxes that I'm interested in, and namely the price one, so I'll likely be there not long after release.

[Fine Ham Abounds]

I generally make it a point to support all loot-n-scoot games with wild disregard for my finances, but thanks for the reminder, Forbes!

I just realized the white girl in the pic is a terrible dancer.

Hah, this was the first thing I noticed also...

[AbsoluteZero]

Diablo 3 will live on for more than a decade. Also: [IMG]http://lightningamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/torchlight2-cinematique-cartoon-600x300.jpg[IMG] [IMG]http://oyster.ignimgs.com/ve3d/images/03/09/30939_normal.jpg[IMG] GTFO LOL

My as well compare a Nickelodeon TV Show vs. a Disney Feature Film...budget, my man, budget.

[ZoddGutts]

Grim Dawn will be better than both.

[ZetaEpyon]

I enjoyed the Diablo III beta, and then I tried the Torchlight 2 beta and realized how much I missed being able to customize my character, as well as being able to switch between a bunch of different skills in combat. Diablo III is just a lot more streamlined than I expected.

So, for me, Torchlight 2 absolutely is a better bang for my buck. Not only is it cheaper, I enjoy the mechanics more. Ultimately, I wish I could have the Diablo III art and atmosphere with the Torchlight 2 gameplay mechanics...

[AndyD]

I agree with most of the OP points. On that note, anyone up for a Torchlight 4 pack?

[ZZMitch]

Mostly valid reasons, and why I will be picking up Torchlight II day 1 and Diablo 3 when it gets to 20$.

[Ceebs]

Nothing about the Diablo 3 beta sold me on the game. Then again Diablo 2 never hooked me like other lootwhore games have either. I know it was a beta but the server issues turned me off even more.

Will gladly pony up 20 for TL2 though. I loved the original.

[BigTnaples]

Playing Tourchlight 1 right now in anticipation for Diablo. I had played it before but only for a couple hours total.

Seems like a fun game, but I am expecting DIII to be better. (Never played the first 2)

I do like the pet aspect, and being able to send your pet back to town and sell your goods. Will there be a similar system in D3 with the followers?

[Skilletor]

Dancing Vivian was the hot Vivian.

This.

Also, none of my friends are going to play Torchlight.

All of them are playing Diablo 3.

My money goes to Diablo.

[Spat_triate]

I just realized the white girl in the pic is a terrible dancer.

I was thinking the same thing! My 8mo old has more rhythm than that.

Mini lists like this are designed to be shallow and inflammatory for the sole purpose of getting more clicks, but I guess shitty lists is what Forbes does best.

[Dragonzord]

Grim Dawn will be better than both.

Grim Dawn will never come out.

[Hero]

There are a few fair points there, the always-online requirement being the biggest offender. But with how duping/hacking ruined the D2 online community and economy I don't mind it, just makes LAN-ing a bit harder.

The real answer is to buy both games.

[MDSLKTR]

My as well compare a Nickelodeon TV Show vs. a Disney Feature Film...

Cutscenes and art (lol) aside, yeah it's a pretty apt comparison.

[Dragonzord]

So when are we getting a Diablo 3 vs Torchlight 2 vs Borderlands 2 vs Grim Dawn garbage thread?

[derFeef]

Cutscenes and art (lol) aside, yeah it's a pretty apt comparison.

I actually love the TL2 art. It's very charming - the hard edged characters look really neat and not just made out of paper like in D3.

So when are we getting a Diablo 3 vs Torchlight 2 vs Borderlands 2 vs Grim Dawn garbage thread?

Now?

[CarbonatedFalcon]

Mostly valid reasons, and why I will be picking up Torchlight II day 1 and Diablo 3 when it gets to 20$.

See you in D3 in 15 years then.

I enjoyed the Diablo III beta, and then I tried the Torchlight 2 beta and realized how much I missed being able to customize my character, as well as being able to switch between a bunch of different skills in combat. Diablo III is just a lot more streamlined than I expected. So, for me, Torchlight 2 absolutely is a better bang for my buck. Not only is it cheaper, I enjoy the mechanics more. Ultimately, I wish I could have the Diablo III art and atmosphere with the Torchlight 2 gameplay mechanics...

The Diablo 3 beta had less content than the TL2 beta does. If you're basing your opinion solely off the betas, it's a poor choice.

[AbsoluteZero]

The Diablo 3 beta had less content than the TL2 beta does. If you're basing your opinion solely off the betas, it's a poor choice.

I'm hoping there will be demos of both I can play soon.

[LiquidMetal14]

Not reading the OP is bannable.

[NullPointer]

So when are we getting a Diablo 3 vs Torchlight 2 vs Borderlands 2 vs Grim Dawn garbage thread?

Its impossible to mention Torchlight 2 without several somebodys piping in with "Diablo 3 lolz" and "Shoulda release before Diablo 3 lolz", etc etc ad nauseum. So this really is no surprise.

I'd probably pick up Diablo 3 if it wasn't for the always online + auction house stuff. But I'm one of those guys who never played any of the Diablos as a primarily multiplayer game. I just liked bashing stuff for loot, offline, on whatever hardware I had lying around. Blizzard has completely lost touch with that part of their audience.

Enter Torchlight 2.

[fuzzyreactor]

sorry, torchlight art style is too ugly for me to play.

if i want something cheaper ill play Path of Exile which looks better anyway. also dat Grim Dawn

[FieryBalrog]

ITT games "journalists" make lists based on games that aren't even out yet.

[Meier]

Some very good points by the author. I'm happy and fortunate that I can afford both.

[Criminal Upper]

Both games are garbage. It's all about Heroes of Ruin.

[razgriz417]

Decent points but I'll be getting both and dipping into Path of Exile as well. All three has pros/cons and I can see them all sharing the market

[FieryBalrog]

Its impossible to mention Torchlight 2 without several somebody's piping in with "Diablo 3 lolz" and "Shoulda release before Diablo 3 lolz", etc etc ad nauseum. So this really is no surprise. I'd probably pick up Diablo 3 if it wasn't for the always online + auction house stuff. But I'm one of those guys who never played any of the Diablos as a primarily multiplayer game. I just liked bashing stuff for loot, offline, on whatever hardware I had lying around. Blizzard has completely lost tough with that part of their audience.

It's also pretty much impossible to talk about diablo 3 in places without torchlight or Path of Exile fanboys making constant obnoxious remarks and bashing Diablo in every other comment.

[Chavelo]

Not reading the OP is bannable.

And so is backseat moddi-*mumble* *mumble* something something oh hey Borderlands 2 is gonna be better, guyz

[Vulcano's assistant]

Diablo 3 will live on for more than a decade. Also: GTFO LOL

fixed for 2D awesomenes

[JesseZao]

5 reasons why PSN is more bang for your buck than XBL.

Irrelevant

I
Play
Games
For
Fun

[NullPointer]

It's also pretty much impossible to talk about diablo 3 in places without torchlight or Path of Exile fanboys making constant obnoxious remarks and bashing Diablo in every other comment.

I've only ever seen that in the Diablo 3 auction-house/always online threads since that disappointed a lot of old school offline players.

But yeah, the fanboyism and there-can-be-only-one shit is annoying. Just buy what you want, or buy both, or neither. Just don't be an ass about it.

[The M.O.B]

It's also pretty much impossible to talk about diablo 3 in places without torchlight or Path of Exile fanboys making constant obnoxious remarks and bashing Diablo in every other comment.

Yeah........not like there is a huge Diablo 3 OT.............

[Mafro]

what show is this from?

Vivian from The Fresh Prince of Bel Air

[MMaRsu]

Not reading the OP is bannable.

Well not really, just posting that you didnt read the OP is bannable :p.

[Chunky]

There's no point arguing, since both these chumps gonna hit the motherfucking floor when Heroes of Ruin comes out. :D


:|


:/
(I'll still buy you HoR, if only because my laptop restarts at even the thought of running Diablo 3)

[Cipherr]

It's also pretty much impossible to talk about diablo 3 in places without torchlight or Path of Exile fanboys making constant obnoxious remarks and bashing Diablo in every other comment.

I love them. They pop up out of nowhere in the Diablo 3 threads. Pages of conversations about runes and builds, and out of nowhere someone posts a 16 paragraph half a damn page bullet pointed list of why I should be playing "Insert game here" instead of Diablo 3, complete with YouTube video links and all.

[Valnen]

He really thinks free to play MMO's are valid competition to D3? Really? $60 price point is out of place? For D fucking 3? REALLY?

What a joke. This article can't be taken seriously.

[Risible]

Didn't read LOL meme

Isn't this bannable?

[SpacePirate Ridley]

Diablo 3 will live on for more than a decade. Also: GTFO LOL

Wait what? two totally different artistic styles for cutscenes and both totally valid and good.
I think the one that has to GTFO here is you, good day sir.

[Chunky]

5 reasons why PSN is more bang for your buck than XBL. Irrelevant I Play Games For Fun

wtf :lol

[ShdwDrake]

If youre gonna get hardcore, many people here will admit to committing 200 plus hours on a fighting game, a multiplayer FPS, an MMO, Guitar Hero, FIFA, etc. Them being engrossing means nothing, every genre can be exactly that except for SP only games (and even then...))

I beat Uncharted 2 7 times O_O

[FieryBalrog]

I've only ever seen that in the Diablo 3 auction-house/always online threads since that disappointed a lot of old school offline players. But yeah, the fanboyism and there-can-be-only-one shit is annoying. Just buy what you want, or buy both, or neither. Just don't be an ass about it.

Yeah........not like there is a huge Diablo 3 OT.............

Gaf isn't the only place I'm talking about.

[Slayer-33]

I'm sorry I fucking spit out my drink when I scrolled down after reading the OP.. Hope you don't get in trouble Alpha LOL.

[Wilsongt]

I'm not sure if my comp can run Diablo III, plus I am strapped for cash, so I will go with Torchlight II first and maybe if I save up some, I will get Diablo.