[The_Player]

Torchlight devs aren't proven yet.

Oh my, it's not list who stupid. You do realize that Runic has more developers of original Diablo series than Blizzard has now?

[ZealousD]

So when are we getting a Diablo 3 vs Torchlight 2 vs Borderlands 2 vs Grim Dawn garbage thread?

Since when has Borderlands 2 ever been drawn into these arguments?

Should be Diablo 3 vs Torchlight 2 vs Grim Dawn vs Path of Exile

[The_Player]

Since when has Borderlands 2 ever been drawn into these arguments? Should be Diablo 3 vs Torchlight 2 vs Grim Dawn vs Path of Exile

But can I hate Diablo 3 and enjoy all the other games?

[inky]

It's indefensible and even if they're among my favourite developers, they deserve to be called out for it.

For sure, but bring it up as a criticism with the wrong people here and you are just a hater, so you gonna hate.

[Radec]

:lol

holy shit.

May god bless your soul brother.

[subversus]

Lol, there will be no cracked versions fro Diablo because the game is sold incomplete and AI is stored and executed on servers. Blizzard are smart.

[hyduK]

Oh my, it's not list who stupid. You do realize that Runic has more developers of original Diablo series than Blizzard has now?

Again, having ex-Blizzard devs has worked out so well in the past for other games. Plenty of MMO's have had ex-Blizzard devs too, none of them have been WoW.



Talented coders/artists can be replaced to some extent. Blizzards budget and luxury of spending however damn long they want on the game cannot.

[AbsoluteZero]

haha was gonna say Avatar and Korra are better than any animation Disney has done in a long time.

You're arguing that Korra is higher quality animation than Tangled?

Really?

[Dapperk]

Why does everything in this industry have to be X vs. Y? Why does everything have to be a war? Why can't you just enjoy whatever instead of it having to be up against something? Gamers are such manchildren.

Unlike books or movies, games are a more time consuming form of entertainment. Many people don't have the time to play one game like Diablo let alone 2 or more similar games. So you get comparisons like this which in turn bring out strong feelings in gamers.

[zoukka]

I really like the look of Torchlight II, but come on son.... The DIII thread will be the most epic ever seen on GAF.

[NullPointer]

Lol, there will be no cracked versions fro Diablo because the game is sold incomplete and AI is stored and executed on servers. Blizzard are smart.

If Blizzard was truly smart they'd exploit this for gameplay opportunities that no single player/offline game could easily achieve. Then this always-online requirement might actually be a positive for all involved. But will they?

[The_Player]

Lol, there will be no cracked versions fro Diablo because the game is sold incomplete and AI is stored and executed on servers. Blizzard are smart.

I say two days at max.

Again, having ex-Blizzard devs has worked out so well in the past for other games. Plenty of MMO's have had ex-Blizzard devs too, none of them have been WoW. Talented coders/artists can be replaced to some extent. Blizzards budget and luxury of spending however damn long they want on the game cannot.

You're missing the point that Runic already released original Torhlight which was quite enjoyable game. Now they're making the same game but more open, with multiplayer and new classes. I can't see how they can break unbreakable concept, can you?

[Kalnos]

If Blizzard was truly smart they'd exploit this for gameplay opportunities that no single player/offline game could easily achieve. Then this always-online requirement might actually be a positive for all involved. But will they?

The reason they have the code server-side is to protect the integrity of the RMAH as well as prevent cheating. Those two reasons are pretty positive in and of themselves.

[NullPointer]

The reason they have the code server-side is to protect the integrity of the RMAH as well as prevent cheating. Those two reasons are pretty positive in and of themselves.

I get that, and those are positive to the hardcore multiplayer crowd sure, but I was alluding to something else. If the AI is stored on the server than they can make changes to it, tweak it, change up enemy combinations and positions. Make things more dynamic. They could even have MMO-like world events of sorts if done right. There are interesting gameplay avenues they could explore.

And if they went down that route it'd make the DRM/security seem like something that actively improves the game rather than passively preventing hacks and exploits.

[godelsmetric]

So which is more fun?

TL2 is more hardcore and therefore better. Because nothing screams fun like putting a skill point in the wrong skill at level 63 and having to restart my character.

[Branduil]

Just no, if one of those two looks generic is the one on the top. Plus D3 has its own superior (not flash) cartoon media anyway. And I don't blame Torchlight II for not having the same quality. The game looks like a lot of fun, and should not be compared to blizzard in things in which it can't compete. If you have more money you can obviously hire more and better artists.

Well I'm sure Diablo 3 has good art, he just picked really bad screenshots to illustrate that, because the top one is much more appealing than the demon thing.

[dLMN8R]

I do really hate the trend of PC games costing $60

You mean the trend that started twelve years ago?

http://www.bluesnews.com/a/44/diablo...million-copies

Diablo II is available immediately at most computer and software retail chains for approximately $60.

Ideally, torchlight 2 should have come out a month ago.

Torchlight 2 is not ready to be released now. A month ago, it would have been terrible.